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@@djtomoy Not true. If you watched the video you’ll see that John mentions a few that he likes. I’ve also seen some stellar remasters. Look at the work Bluepoint and Nightdive put out.
Given everything Konami has done the last few years, I honestly would've been shocked if it had turned out better than it did. "Laziest possible port" is exactly what I expected they'd do. I can't wait to see how they butcher MGS3 in that remake.
@@paulcici3721 1. Emulator that comes with MGS1 is bad. 2. No proper PC controls for MGS2/3 and having to mod the game to fix the render resolution. The games are amazing, but this is not how you do a PC release. This is bare minimum. Even the console versions could be better.
Quick cash? Do people really think a single metal gear solid game is worth less than $9 and not only that, but in today’s economy? It’s literally 5 full metal gear games + 2 cannon and digital graphic novels. People are calling Konami greedy but not realizing the value in any of this? Bizarre times. RU-vidr culture is beyond negative at this point. Enjoy the games or just don’t get them. If you have the originals, then you’re doing just fine anyways, let others buy it. Oh my goodness 😂
I agree so hard with the sentiment here. This was a golden opportunity for konami to win good will with very little effort and cost, and to give us something we all wanted. Even then, they *still* couldn't be bothered to do that. It's not good enough. I was ready to slap the cash down, and instead Konami slapped us all with disrespect and contempt.
They would have earned my purchase if they'd been able to maintain the stability of the original HD releases and delivered the up-converted 1080p they promised (even that would be a pathetic offering in 2023) but they couldn't even be bothered to do that. Screw them. The gameplay for MGS Delta has not earned them any points either. It looks like a fanmade unreal engine demo.
I’m glad DF covered this before its release and mentioned and how lacklustre the port was. I was willing to pre-order this one but so glad I didn’t. They will not receive a penny from me. They only need to update for current gen, it’s not rocket science 🤦🏻♂️
@@mphylo2296 the new versions look so washed out and their texture filtering is somehow worse, what the fuk they do to make the bluepoint remasters even worse is beyond me
Capcom isn’t much better, releasing RE4Remake with no DLSS or even DualSense features is ridiculous and they refuse to patch into the game because they’re lazy just like Konami
It's truly sad how Konami has changed over the entire time I play video games. It once was a 8 & 16 Bit powerhouse, they had so many really awesome titles...
@@Noname15514 nah, he's been gone for years and the leadership has consistently shown they have no idea what they're doing. he was their golden goose and they just got too greedy
@@Freakazoid12345Yes! Apparently they fought that the company had made some uppscaling or real remaster of the original game source. So! They are complaining about that the product isn't what the fought it would be. And I makes me laugh. Becouse it makes this guys look like a mature. As their are no info that I ha e seen where the company did say that the collection would be anymore the. The original game whit some extra material.
Thank you John for being the only person anywhere on the internet to address my questions about the old pressure sensitive PS2 buttons. I really wanted to know how they intended to handle it with this collection since there is no equivalent on modern controllers.
@@FlyBirdit was addressed in a slightly different way, interestingly enough. On Xbox, you had to hold down L3 and release the weapon button in order to put the gun away, as an example. In the MC, you just tap L3 and Snake puts away the gun. You can actually use a single tap of L3 for Snake to raise his gun, then either tap it again to put it away or use the weapon button to fire. Pretty interesting change.
Absolutely baffling how anyone at Konami possibly thought that this was the right move. Forgoing the easiest PR slam-dunk of all time with some of their biggest fans, in favor of a cold "if we spend precisely this amount of money, our calculations suggest that enough people will bite for it to still show up as a technical positive on the balance sheet" scheme. I feel SO bad for the team that had to work on this, it must have been truly heartbreaking to be a part of.
I refunded my Steam version of the Master Collection yesterday and I guess the next days will have a high increase in the refund rate since the two weeks deadline for refunds (including pre-orders because their deadline begins on the official release day) ends at November 7 - because Konami did basically nothing to fix the situation via hotfixes and proper communication of the next steps which would be crucial to avert refunds in this critical time window. It's likely Konami does not care about this anyway.
they aren't used to fan feed back, most fo the time they just ignore and listen to......idk wtf but they just do what they think would hypothetically make money
Digital Foundry not being provided review codes for any "Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol.1" version speaks volumes on Konami's self awareness about this no effort/cash grab $59,99 720p scam which is still, shamelessly, promoted by all those self-proclaimed Metal Gear "experts" who signed non disclosure agreements with this ex japanese gaming company in exchange of free review codes and other themed worthless merchandise.
it's not 60, there are no regional pricing so it's above 60 in many places. Not that it's even worth that if this was a good port, i ain't paying that much for a freaking ps2 game
I was hoping that Konami is making a new start with this, but no, they are still Konami. Very sad. It looks like the company is being run by accountants rather than gaming specialists.
To be honest I knew it all along, Konami just don't make games anymore. After the fall out with Kojima in 2015 they just stopped making games, they even killed off theyre football game PES. And after all this time they decided to make easy money selling older games with minimal effort. And people were happy that Konami is back, making classic game collections remaking one of the best theyre games MGS3 alongside with Silent Hill 2. But Konami is not back they just don't have the staff to make games, because they are not making games for a long time now. They hired some people to make this collection and hired external studios to make MGS3 and SH2 remakes. And I have really bad feeling about MGS3 remake knowing the fact that all audio will remain the same as in original. For me that sounds not like a remake, but more like a remaster. I don't have big hopes for future Konami projects.
Pro Evolution Soccer was for many years the best football game available , it used to wipe the floor with FIFA year after year. How the mighty have fallen.
This could have been such an easy home run for Konami... we weren't asking for remasters. I think we all had the "Nightdive Studios touch" expectation; proper widescreen support, unlocked framerate, remappable controls, and cloud saves. What we got was an incredibly lazy straight port (and somehow worse quality). And i thought "okay, restricted resolution and frame rate, I can atleast get it and enjoy on Steam Deck" Nope, doesnt work there lol. What an absolute disappointment.
Works on steam deck with some minor tinkering, not sure why but the master collection version of mgs3 runs better on the deck than when I emulate the ps2 version. There are tinker tutorials on RU-vid showing how to get the collection up and running in a few minutes.
the dumbass cuck metal gear sub reddit was hating on anyone saying twin snakes and snake eater 3d should also have been in there to justify the 60-70 dollars price point, they can have this instead
@@SomeGuy_Somewhereits not "revisionist" it's a differing opinion. You're not revising a base fact about the game by defending it, because its simply not; it's subjective.
Even though it is Konami, i was honestly expecting better. the Castlevania collections that have been released lately were all FANTASTIC and go above and beyond what they needed to be. To see they did the absolute bare minimum for Metal Gear.....its just sad.
This is the reason to why I’m passing on this trilogy. I wanted it so bad but I hope maybe. Just maybe they will fix it and do some upgrades and then I’ll think about getting it.
@@vladik87genuinely how is it decent? On a system with 20x the power it still runs at half the frame rate of the original. That’s genuinely absurd. My vita has the superior version.
@@jacobsabastian3871 you talking about the Switch? As far as I know, it runs fine and with the frame rates on PS5. And fyi, this frame rate obsession in gamers these days is becoming obnoxious.
Suggesting the use of AI to replace the voice talent of Paul Eiding is not the way to go. Paul has spoken recently about this subject and is 100% against the use of AI to replace voice actors and is taking action within the industry to make sure this doesn’t happen. Konami could have contacted and paid him to say a half a dozen lines to do with console specific button inputs. I’ve spoken with him previously and he’s a lovely guy who very much still loves the series and the fans that keep it alive. It would be beyond disrespectful to replace his voice with AI, even for such a small portion of his characters speech.
Exactly, nearly all the VA for Metal Gear are down to record additional lines. ANd most of them won't even require additional animations too. But this remaster is so damn lazy so that's why they couldn't even contact any of them as well as the countless graphical laziness.
i'm a big fan of ai, but i agree with not using it for big commercial projects like this. it's great for indie projects that just couldn't be made without it though
@@voyagerrock1137nah, not even that. There are thousands upon thousands of free voice actors that just want to help with any project they can that would be infinitely better than AI. Source: I’m one of them.
any AI voice has to be used with permission and has to cost more then if they do it manually to encourage physical work, what these companies are getting with it should be 100% illegal by state law. Mfs can send us cease and desist letters for pirating right, then we kick them out of our nations if they do stuff like using voices without permission and not heavily compensating.
Not really surprising. Konami is barely a game company these days and when they do release stuff it's slap dash garbage. This thing was always going to be a hastily put together low effort cash grab. Anyone expecting more from Konami probably hasn't been paying much attention to them these last few years (I don't blame you, they've barely released anything in the last 5 years). If you see Konami on the box, just avoid it no matter how nostalgic you may be for some of the IP they own. Konami only cares about milking that nostalgia for a quick buck, don't be their victim.
Which is why I'm original software on original hardware and I keep everything around. For mgs I play them on legacy collection on ps3 and with mgs1 I play the twin snakes version on gamecube
@@drunkensailor112I do the same! But I absolutely endorse emulation too! It's a fantastic way to preserve every version of these classics (Yes, looking at you Metal Gear Touch... You deserve to exist too honey.)
People need to understand none of these gaming companies are the same ones that made their greatest games years ago. Hell, often they aren't even that same company that made that great game that is now making an immediate sequel. There are too many moving parts in this medium to trust a dev will keep churning out hits. Wait until the reviews are in.
Most of the people complaining have said they won't even buy the game, but most of the people who actually bought the game are saying they enjoy it. Interesting...
I've been a HUGE Metal Gear fan since the days of the NES so this was a day one purchase for me. I've already purchased the games several times including both the Vita and 3DS versions and even an obscure game called "The Document of Metal Gear Solid 2". I opted for the Steam Deck version so that I could play it on the go and the smaller screen would make the graphics more tolerable. Game was absolutely broken. -On certain games, the buttons wouldn't match the on screen prompt. -The music player was completely silent. -MGS3 and MGS2 wouldn't launch at all (now they launch but there's no voice acting) -The bonus content won't even download. It's a shame, really.
I really do not understand the disappointment. Konami never said they would remaster much less remake the games. Since they announced it, it was very clear to me what the collection would be. I think the gaming community (Especially RU-vidrs) sometimes creates these weird over the top expectations and they end up getting disappointed. Not because of what the developer did or didn't do, but because the fantasies they created. I already owned the Xbox 360 HD collection. All I needed to complete the collection was MGS 1. Good thing it was sold separately.
You dont understand the dissapointment when its worse in every regard than the previous collection on ps3? That had more games, a higher res, ran better, had a physical booklet with promotional art from the series, almost 10 years ago....for only 40 bucks.... The new collection taken on its own is "fine", sure. But what is the excuse that this couldnt be at least as good as the previous one? And is that a unreasonable expectation? Also I dont get your "since it was announced it was clear....".....so what? Plenty of peole were already expecting a lackluster collection back then but were told to shut up because "the game isnt out yet, how would you know" and now it turns out to be lackluster and we get chuckleheads like you saying "yeah well, you shouldve known" xD
I was so pumped to have this collection on switch to play and chill on couch or bed with headphones. But they’re not even on the cartridge?! They’re not getting my money.
The problem is....Kojima is not there to Quality Control The vision of his Art/game and the way it runs. This was a cash grab. Let the greed be felt.......Boooo these decisions.
Moments of dissapointment like these are what makes me wish that Metal Gear Solid was a Capcom owned franchise. It would get the treatment and respect it deserves. Really makes me question how well the Remake will be done for MGS3 now. I hope that is not messed up and I really hope they do a great job with it.
I’ve been enjoying the master collection, only thing I’m mad at that is we paid $20 for 2 versions of MGS1 and 3 versions of VR missions, they should have parlayed with Nintendo and had TTS and Integral version of MGS1.
Lol all the people on reddit would downvote or attack anybody that would comment or post something negative about this collection before release. It wasnt anything harsh just people pointing out that they would not pay $60 at launch for this collection and rather wait for a price drop. Those people on reddit are crazy, nobody was disrespecting them for buying it on release day but they would come after you just for sharing your opinion, but now almost every post is negtive on reddit.
I think they spent the bare minimum to produce the bare minimum for maximum profit. It is likely to help fund their slew of giant projects underway like Snake Eater remake and the 3 Silent Hill games in development.
I don’t disagree that the port was not good, but it was complete at least it even included VR Missions which I wasn’t expecting, I’m glad they released it I hope they take these criticisms to heart going forward if they’re doing more rereleases, I am still glad Metal Gear Solid is on the PlayStation 5 now.
No John, i want mgs1 to have no zbuffer, no mpc mapping and no floating point values(warping&wobble) for the authentic ps1 look. Fixing those things in a single player game would be a downgrade
Konami is just an empty shell since Kojima left. Clutching at straws and cash grabs obviously. They stopped developing video games and started developing slot machines for goodness sakes! This was their chance to build trust with their old audience who have been crying out for these releases and show the modern era what good they can do.
Konami was developing slot machines in 2002; I specifically played Konami slot machines back then, here in Australia. Kojima was embezzling money from Konami. That's why he was terminated.
That's exactly why I still retain all the original versions of Metal Solid and Silent Hill games, I have the MGS Essential Collection Box for PS2 (MGS1 PSX even came in a DVD PS2 box) , after the tremendous horrible SIlent Hill "HD" Collection my expectations from Konami re-releases dropped downhill, they will never hire BP or HD to do proper modern conversions. I also loved Twin Snakes despite the meme hates the game gets now a days , its like playing MGS1 with PS2 graphics, I find it funny that peoples bash Ryuhei Kitamura directed cutscenes and how over-the-top they are lol . It is clear that Kojima and Silicon Knights watched a ton of The Matrix while developing the game, as the cutscenes featured a ton of acrobatics, slow-motion, and bullet dodging. People actually complained that they were too cheesy and over-the-top. Yes! People complained that a Metal Gear Solid game was over-the-top. A gigantic ship crashing on Manhattan, a flamboyant vampire who walks on the surface water, cyborg ninjas, a soldier who uses bees as weapons, a parasite that specifically kills people who speak English, a girl who doesn’t wear many clothes because she breathes through her skin, those are apparently all fine. A few Matrix-inspired cutscenes are a no-no, apparently , dear lord give the game a actual chance to play.
The issue with Twin Snakes isn't so much how over the top it is. It's the fact that the slapped on MGS2 mechanics break the fundamentals of the original game. They didn't overhaul the level design to accommodate these new additions. They just left it as is. MGS1 was NOT designed around these, so now you can cheese various sections of the game by just going into first person view and using the M9. It ruins entire boss encounters such as the Ocelot fight where the intended way to fight him was to circle around the support pillars whilst avoiding the bullet ricochets and C4 wire.
@@ManatsujekiThe level design was the very same I do have to agree on that but the AI was vastly improved over the original much like MGS2 that you also could aim at first-person . It's actually based on MGS2 A.I , depending on the difficulty or being searched for carefully also enemy soldiers had the ability to communicate with each other and detect the player more intelligently with senses of sight and sound enhanced.
Obviously not surprised but very disappointed that this isn't better. I was absolutely ready to get this but I can't justify the asking price it if Konami aren't willing to put the effort in. Here's hoping that they patch it and make it what it should've been from the start.
Konami already said a million times they don't care about games anymore, Pachinko is a million times more profiteable to them and that's why they are not investing in games anymore. Anything they have done in the past years have been either related to physical merch (Yugioh) or compilations of old franchises (Castlevania, Contra, MGS, and so on). Or just iterations of their regular old yearly franchises like Winning Eleven (or eFootball, as it's known nowdays). Metal Gear Survive was a cash grab based on the MGS5 engine, Silent Hill has been an afterthought after what happened with PT, and the new MGS 3 Remake is being done by an outside studio anyways. They tried moving Castlevania into next gen-like gameplay and they couldn't find their footing, fired Kojima because who knows what the hell happened and screwed up that franchise as well, Contra is dead because nobody cared enough. The tldr is: What were you guys expecting lol.
The definite ways to play these games as of now for the best experience regarding visuals and performance in my personal experience: MGS1 - PS1 version with Duckstation emulator. MGS2 - PC Master Collection with the MGSHDFix MGS3 - PC Master Collection with the MGSHDFix For 2 and 3 I initially recommended PC with V's Fix and 360 emulation respectively. But with those HD fixes the locked 720p res issue on MC.
It's really sad because many gaming publishers continue doing this because gamers are some of the easiest to manipulate in the world. They would still buy it full price even if it was just a so called demo. Until gamers fight back and vote with their wallets this trend will sadly continue to happen!
