@@KevinGamin it seems to be a monochrome RLCD. So it has the advantage of a e-ink of not emitting light like a regular screen, but it also faster and allows for a smoother experience than even the best monochrome E-ink could not achieve. The only real drawback is that it consumes battery, since, unlike E-ink, the image doesn't stay once done, and need to be on at all times to display. But since it doesn't necessarily need to have its backlight on, it still uses less power than a regular screen In short, it a 'regular' monochrome tablet without eye strain and can be used a full sunlight without needing backlight at all. If you have a Gameboy Advance, it has the same tech, but with a better resolution. There are color RLCD, but the color, even if better than color E-Ink, have the expected issue of LCD display of color getting funny if you don't look strait at it. The monochrome doesn't have color issue, because... well, no color 😅
@@Taugeshtu No it's not lol, the main feature is that it's daylight readable and not that it is yellow. Any normal monitor will look super dim in a bright room with sunlight hitting it.
@@Taugeshtu F.lux is great and I highly recommend it. While it limits the blue light of your display, this display is also non-emiting and the backlight does not do PWM. So there are significant differences between this and a normal LCD running F.lux.
Considering your commitment to being a Public Benefit Corporation, what's your stance on right-to-repair and the DC-1? Was this designed to be user-serviceable? Will parts be available for purchase by consumers?
Just think about this not already being a thing and that "live" e-ink would be a technology that you would release at a bigger stage. This looks like it tries to create FOMO for the product with real cool design and stuff, but I bet what will be delivered isn't anything special. If they deliver.
@@andrebruns4872 It's better than what is demo'd here. Its the fastest e-ink display, +60fps, that's the main attraction. Check vid of the CEO playing around with it. It's legit
Under 800 actually seems pretty reasonable when compared to many cell phones these days, I would be interested to try it out especially if it has good support for drawing/sketching. Can we root it and put in Linux or what? 😅
@@requestnearbyIt's more expensive than the iPad Air, which is the second most expensive iPad available. Even with the stylus, the iPad Air is only slightly more expensive, and the iPad Air is much more capable and has a much better stylus. And the only advantage the Daylight computer has is the display which is usable outdoors. But the iPad Air's display is non-reflective and has a peak brightness of 600 nits (and I doubt the Daylight Computer can get much brighter, judging based on the promotional materials; and I doubt the iPad in the promotional materials was the latest version, or set to peak brightness). And if you spend slightly more for an iPad Pro, you get 1,000 nits of brightness. Although, then you have to get the 1 TB storage option and spend extra on a nanotexture display if you want to avoid glare, and adding the cost of the Apple Pencil Pro brings the total to $1900. But that's probably not necessary, because I doubt the Daylight Computer can reach 1,000 nits of brightness, so the iPad Air is probably more than enough to be comparable. And the iPad Air has a much better processor (Apple M2 vs MediaTek Helio), and is a much more capable device in general. Also, the Daylight Computer claims to be flicker-free, but I don't think that's possible on an LED.
Looking forward on how does this company evolve. Their website is really inspiring, as a software engineer I've been waiting for something like this for a long time. I hope this goes forward!
A cheap plastic Chinese tablet with a reflective LCD running Android with custom launcher, but for 5x the price. Can’t wait for the bankruptcy/buyout report.
This is a good step in the right direction. Dear daylight team, I hope you succeed. Please consider making similar phones, monitors and color screen eink screen like this one but with the smooth motion. Personally I love E ink displays
Use this tech for a monitor instead of tablets, please. Monitors need high refresh rates and they have no battery so E-ink.has no advantage on the deslktop compared to this screen.
It looks like it's just a tablet with a paper-like display, All of the issues they raise are valid, I would like to have a paper-like monitor, myself. The problem is these products are still too expensive to justify for most people, especially when, by nature, they aren't great for media consumption. People seem to choose to waste more time and dopamine, not less.
I love the video. Just preordered mine! The website is also beautiful. Great attention to detail throughout the whole experience. I have been working on an e-ink mode for Obsidian that should work perfectly with Daylight. Can't wait!
Kepanooo, love your work on Obsidian. The exciting thing about this device is that we won't need to modify a theme for it as much as we would have to for eInk, such as eliminating animations and simulating flashes. The refresh rate will be amazing.
@@StachuDotNet it literally says in their site it's an e-ink tablet using a different technology to move particles around edit: baited by false advertising
I use Android to run Termux and code using neovim or helix. You won't get a good experience for anything but webapps (and still pretty non-existent debugging), but it's doable! This tablet runs a fork of Android
It''s not going to succed. Color is simply required in computer interfaces for productive work. This is just another piece of california hipster bubble tech that gets its 15 minutes of fame - just like AI Pin, Light Phone or the game handheld with the crank. No one will even remember it in 6 months.
If you made a slightly larger one, it would revolutionize certain industries (industries that normally rely on 8.5x11" paper, or thereabouts). I'm a classical musician and frankly we just need one 13" or larger (the size of normal music scores) in order to see the music while we're playing on stage. 10.5" is too small. Otherwise this would be a game changer. Please consider. We need a 4:3 aspect ratio, 13".
Also, please notice that many, many classical musicians nowadays use iPads, but many only because it's the only option (again, the 4:3 aspect ratio and larger display).
Cool concept… But I’ll wait until Marques gives the OK before preordering any of this stuff. ✅😂 The industry has kind of sucked lately with “new products”.
They just can't avoid adding a bunch of meaningless bloat on it and pretend to be Apple. Read, Write, and Draw, why is that so hard for them to understand? They just have to add their bloat to what is suppose to be an escape from all that.
Take my money if this thing lets me install a Linux distribution on it. Was waiting for a device like this to code under the sun on fresh air in the park or on the beach. Tired of the office
@@daylightcomputerco I hope it will. As others mentioned in hacker news, I believe It would be great to have a Developer Edition. Completely open. There are plenty of devices that allow you to read books, make notes, draw, even browse, but none of them are developer friendly. I think, this could be Daylights' adaption secret sauce. Wish you and your team all the best. Will be glad to help with whatever I can.
Crazy how people pay 1k+ USD for a phone that transform them into zombies but are reluctant to invest 800 into a tool that help you foster a better mind and expand your creativity. Looking forward to putting my hand on this.
It uses an RCLD display. It's like E-Ink, but sacrifices the lack of energy consumption from E-Ink for a gain in fps. Me personally, I would rather have better battery life than smooth animations, but everyone has their own preferences 🤷.
Just looks like a reading tablet…not an IPad. People need something to replace IPads. I want to watch video, check stock prices, weather, emails etc…without the blue light
Excellent commercial, but... here's the thing people are missing with minimalism tablets. We want a tablet where you can write, read, and maybe draw, and that's it. We don't need internet access, it not only distracts and adds complexity, but is a security risk. We don't need any fancy applications if that's what you'll add, we just want a reliable and simple device that is as analog as you can make it; i.e., no bloat. No online store, no fancy features, not unnecessarily thin, not based on bloat Android; just a stable Linux based tablet with the ability to drag and drop common and open file formats from and to your computer. Do this and I think you'll have a winner, it will also cost less to make once you've figured out the OS.
would buy if it was cheaper. love transflective LCDs especially this one looks very nice with custom diffuser solution but. but. The viewing angles are still not as great as e-paper and indoors it requires backlight to be almost always on to have a good contrast. so the only benefit over something like reMarkable is less laggy pdf zooming, full access to android ecosystem. In short, a solid tablet but niche. should not be this expensive.
I'm interested seeing this compared against my Boox N3AC, I like the response I see in this screen and it would be nice if writing on that screen is as comfortable as in the boox.
man the way this video was shot and edited was sooo good! inspires me to get make better videos. Really excited to see where this technology goes in the future 🎉🎉
Yup as expected people complain rather than finding the reasons why its quite the price Design Theory made a video explaining most of the stuff I hate this generation... Its just getting dumber and dumber
Hippies are coming back, they will show you normal magnet and call it aura stone which can purify you and charge in 120 dollars. Edit : This is reflective LCD which is already existed technology, I still prefer my e-ink as battery consumption extremely low. Anywhere good marketing A for that.
Aside from all of the marketing BS - please explain how this is any different than the onyx boox products? The only difference to me looks like a higher refresh e-ink display. Other than that, it's the same.. which is funny considering it's supposed to be a distraction free computing experience but the only claim to fame is higher refresh rate. Edit: I first made this comment without really thinking and I regret the negativity. Honestly - a high refresh e-ink alternative would solve a problem for many people who wish they could make their every-day computing device e-ink. If you guys have patented the screen technology - I do think licensing it out would probably be best. I myself would buy a monitor in this form factor. Sorry for being an asshole at first. I'm jet lagged AF.
I highly doubt this is using e-ink. In their promo material they say it's "e-ink like", so it's probably just an LCD display with a front light. Think GameBoy.
As soon as I heard "app" I lost hope. Still waiting for an offline Linux based tablet (not that awful Android) that you can read, write, and draw on, and that's it. No need for an internet connection, no need for any apps, all those are distracting, adds complexity, and adds security issues.
Not to discourage you or anything… but if you want to explode in the e ink market just create an full android e ink with sim and all connectivities… we are tired of waiting for such a device…
I know I will come off sounding like a hater but lmao @ the shots of people meditating. We've entered the age of marketing how little features the device has. While a part of me hopes people embrace a less tech-obsessed lifestyle, I hope people push back doubly so on the marketing tricks companies are using. This thing will not make you one with nature or make your hair grow into a ponytail; you will now carry your iphone and this thing.
@@boredzero037they have tech specs on their website, although pretty far down. I looked at it yesterday I think it’s 8gb of ram, some mediatek processor, and I forgot the storage. So yeah, it’s a cheap android tablet
Most people who know me will say I'm a tech guy, but I'm actually anti-tech in many ways. This is the first product I can honestly say I'm excited to see in... ooo... about a decade? Its all in the implementation details, but your marketing here is excellent - you're speaking my language to a tee. Definitely on the to-buy list
Looking forward to buying one after watching 2 video interviews with Anna Katta on the journey of Daylight Computer - we found you through Dr. Jack Kruse.
They say they invented a new display, but until I hear otherwise, it seems to me like they're using a transflective LCD, which is what the Pebble smartwatches used. That could easily be a good thing, but battery could be a little worse than normal E-ink depending on use. They say nothing on their website about OS (presumably Android, based on app availability - but no mention of Google Play certification). If it is Android, then customers should get to know which version, and how long they will update it. Most importantly, they call it a computer in their marketing. If it is Android, and with a 60 Hz display, then that could be a solid argument, based entirely on what remaining specs the product has. What SoC is it, a crappy Helio G99, or a Snapdragon 7 or 8 series? How many Wh is the battery? How much storage does it have? All these questions should be answered in full, if not, stay away.
@@R1chardBurt0n Why on gods green Earth would I care enough to hate this specific company? Based on recent reviews, my assumptions were correct, they're using a special LCD, and that means they're not far from the display tech used by Pebble smartwatches. They're also using the pretty poor Helio G99 SoC, and just running an older version of Android. For the price I'm not impressed, but I will say I welcome the transflective LCD to the e-reader space.
Your marketing feels unnecessarily deceptive to me. What is your actual product? What did you start with? I'd love some more transparency, like for example "we started with an android tablet, but we removed the screen and developed our own screen (?) and then made a custom Android build focused on focus" or whatever. The current pitch of "we made this" kinda forces the user to be cautious out the gate and suspicious of snake oil you know?
