The biggest difference for me is the stiff cuff. I have to use the wrap with premium to get the support, but then that adds a lot of volume and makes it hard to close the plastic cuff on boot. With the 3M, you get the stiffness of the premium with wrap without the thickness. But I did find an issue with the 3m tongue tearing at the point between the stiff part and rest of the tonight at the 45D strap area.
I'm super excited for the stiffer top section, especially when I'm using longer frames I think it will add support for more powerful toe press tricks! Thanks for the heads up about the tongue, I'll keep an eye out as that's also happening on my Premium liners
Nice comparison, I really enjoy the Wizard 3M Intuitions, they've allowed me to comfortably fit the 42 shells with my 276mm feet - well, after the break in period and initial toe banging 😅 I've been using mine a year and the material on the tongue is peeling as well as the inner lining near the tongue, BUT neither of these parts are directly in contact with me or my feet and it doesn't make any difference. I just found it interesting they've worn quicker there than the Danny Beer THEMtuitions I've got. Saying that they feel great and I have no reason not to believe they won't continue to do so for years to come! I hope you enjoy them, interested to hear your thoughts after skating as I don't have any expectations with the Premiums.
Hello friend, could you tell me how the Them are compared to the 3M Wizard, which one is thinner, how different the tabs are. I want to buy one of these two but I have doubts about which is the best option for me.
@@otarkaeones1135 the 3m Wizard Intuition liner is the thinnest one by quite a considerable margin, it also has a stiffer tongue. The THEM Intuitions are really good quality and the tongue is still pretty stiff, but the biggest difference is that it's higher volume with thicker foams. Hope that helps.
I would say that its worth replacing, yes. The material isn thicker than the intuition and not as firm so if you replace with intuition you can probably use a smaller size of shell than with the stock liner. Also the stock liner has a very soft tongue so it won't be as supportive as intuition, and likely will not last as long either
Awesome video dude! 💯 By the way, do you know how is the fit of the wizard liner with the Seba CJ carbon (2020)? I'm considering getting this boot, gut it and put the liners but I'm still not sure about the boot size I should get, I would like to have the smallest boot size that fit my 24.5-25 cm wizard liner, the wizard sizing chart suggest getting a 39 wizard shell but I don't know if the same chart applies to the non-wizard carbon shell. Anyone with a recommendation? 😄
would you say it's possible to still use intuition liners if you have not downsized your shell? my current skate shell i bought as a "comfort fit", so i did not size down at all. However now I am wondering if i can still swap my default Rollerblade liners for Intuitions or if that would just make them feel too big and loose?
It's likely that they would have some extra space between the liner and the shell, but there are ways to fix that. Specifically patriot footbeds sells this neoprene liner wrap that goes around the ankle area, and that could work. The benefits of the still intuition tongue and foam might be worth it, and you can always move the liner to a new shell later
I actually just did this and it's working prettty well. I cut a bit higher so the J bars are still connected behind my achilles. The wizard 3M's have been difficult to make work, with the thicker cuff area. I'm finally feeling like I'm breaking in the heel area such that my toes aren't as crunched as they were at first. Probably should do a check-in vid soon :)
I have two pair of the 3m wizards and the premiums were NOT for me, but I love my wizards. I wear 28.5s also and I'd have to say that a 28.5 premium feels overall tighter and thicker than a 28.5 wizard liner.
It was a slow and steady process, but if you put in the hours and really want it, it will happen. then you look back at your early skating and realize how far you've come