iPhone 14 Pro VS PRO Camera (it makes me mad) 

True, I don't think it's any point to make a video of it though since it would be complete knock out, but they could have informed about it or shown few examples. As for most people, prob don't do as much sports action, wildlife, concerts weddings and astro which is also reflected by the sales numbers for system cameras going down ever since smart phones became acceptable quality for the average consumer when all factors taken into consideration.

This whole channel is about mobile phones, of course he has an agenda.

Its an iphone infomercial. This guy soon will make a video 250,000$ camera vs iphone 14 5 million$ satellite vs iphone

@@Teluric2 Avatar scene with iPhone vs Sony's best

well said bro

Well said. Any camera will be great. It's just a tool. Mobile phones have gotten so good now it's fine for most people.

Just wait until Apple introduce one day a iPhone with 1 inch sensor and just one lens like 35 or 50mm and it will kill compact camera industry completely. You can crop from 1 inch sensor like digital zoom on Leica Q or Ricoh GR and still have nice images. Mark my words its going to happened and I can't wait for it.

@@BoyInFancySuit my drone has a 3 inch if not a 4 in sensor and the zoom is so sick at night it’s really nice slrs are a thing of the past

@@SunnyandNova I just downloaded RAW images from Mavic Air 2s. I have no idea what they done to image processing and who responsible for it. I was looking for any info who made the sensor for this model and image processor, but there only rumors on a web and no 100% usufull info. So far people guessing that Hasselblad was involved. To me personally it doesn't seems like its Sony Sensor. Colors are too good. And so easy to edit. So much information in raw files, its unbelivable. I really see myself use this drone instead of any camera on a trip. Even shooting street photography style photos by holding drone in my hands lol Anyway its crazy what such sensor can do. I got prints at home of my son (portraits), from iPhone 12 pro and Lumix GX9. I put them on a wall about year ago. By looking at them right now, I don't even remember which one was shot on camera and which one on smartphone thats how close the quality of images for small prints.

​@@BoyInFancySuitSony already has a phone with 1 inch sensor but isn't able to use the whole sensor area due to lens size restriction. Lens size is currently the limit that has to be overcome for bigger sensors on smartphones. Yes, the Sony phone has great image quality but it's still going to be inferior to larger sensors in all but shooting static subjects.

Any camera ca be good for that. I have d700 that was released in 2007 and this camera is real deal u can get it for 200 eur on my side and new lens 50mm 1.8g for 220 eur. You can make stuning photos with that old grandpa camera. If you want newer camera chose the one you like. I chose for myself sony a7 iv, before that nikon z6, z5, z50 all are incredible cameras

You're probably not shooting in RAW then.

Thanks! I hope to get my hands on the 11 Mini soon. Cheers

Just a force of habit. It doesn't really make a difference for the video, IMO, because we're referencing a high-end, full-frame camera either way.

The story would be similar to modern cameras. An old DSLR would be superior in all but landscape photos in good lighting. Sensor technology actually has made almost no progress in terms of image quality during the last few years. Lenses and autofocus have gotten significantly better though. Smartphones do a great job for static subjects in good lighting and rival "real" cameras in those situations, but introducing movement in any worse lighting is where phones quickly fall apart and there is no contest compared to a larger sensor.

You gotta understand this is an infomercial .

I think that's what they did here, handicap the camera so the phones were at the same level

Or you can take a quick shot with the phone and have it on social media in 10 seconds. The convenience factor of not having to sit down and process and edit, the time you save is ridiculous for the little bit of extra quality you will get. For most people who are not camera literate, the phone is the way to go hands down. I love my Sony A7iv but you cant deny how easy it is to snap a pic and share and have it auto upload to the cloud and be saved for you family all automatically.

@@breakfastforyousoul but then you don't want a camera, for the craft of photography, you want it for social media. Which is not what the video or the conversation is about.

You Can disable hdr on the iPhone aswell in settings which I’m not sure if they did. And also, in the zoom comparison it’s not the 48 MP that is used. It’s the telephoto camera which is a 12 mp camera. So that isn’t really fair. But never the less. Of cause the camera was gonna be better. But seeing how little better is was, was pretty awesome to see actually😳

Thanks!

Sometimes the phone does a great job with auto adjustments and sometimes... not so much. You can go in and edit the image after the fact, so maybe try doing that to get the look you're after. Shooting in Raw may help with things as well.

Yea especially the weird greens🤮 sometimes increasing tint and decreasing the warmth helps but still

If you shoot raw can't you post in Lightroom and process as you wish?

If you take the photo through Lightroom Mobile with the quality set to DNG it does no processing that I’m aware of and bypasses all the fake camera trickery and processing.

That's Quarry Lake in Canmore, Alberta

@@runthejoules thank you very much kind sir

Glad you liked it 🍻

Peeping is done to ensure a good print quality

Can’t argue with ya there

Not at all

What makes them pros? Their saying so? Please…

I mean, if you shy away even slightly off from where iphones are good at, the whole comparison falls apart and you wouldn't even need to pixel peep to notice what was taken with the correct equipment or with an iphone. I don't want to imply iPhones are bad, as any tool they are good in some cases and bad in some others. iPhone happen to be good at exactly the things they compared in this video, while failing on other things. Same goes for cameras, the thing that cameras have on them is that you can get the correct lense to assess the situation, while an iphone simply can't, if it could it'd be no different than a DSLR or mirrorless, but with a smaller sensor. Now, one could argue that iPhones make up for the smaller sensor with all the computational things it does, while also ignoring the fact that one can do the exact same thing with a camera in post, while also maintaining the benefits of the biggest sensor and versatility of lense choices and some other parameters. All this to say, they had to pixel peep because they specifically chose the few things where phones were designed to be good at. Hear what the wildlife photographer said about how he's glad iPhones can't zoom in as much. Compare a wildlife photo taken with the camera to one taken with an iphone and it'd be apparent which was taken with which.

tried them from a distance they all chose a different camera. 1 , 2 and 3. People dont tend to critic photos like you guys do. its often more about the feeling they get. Get some high end Android phones and people love the unnatural blown out look in the colors for instance. Taste is taste.

Exactly. Only in special use cases you need a camera but phones work fine for everything else.

Agreed!

True but the tricks work so good. In many ways it's better than cameras.

We did use ProRaw. I believe that's the only way to get the full res out of the 1x sensor on the 14 Pro. We could have stated that more clearly though, for sure! Thanks

Pretty wild isn’t it?

@@runthejoules I was really surprised to see this since we haven’t been traveling lately. Seriously considering selling off my beloved camera gear and downsizing to a smaller hi end camera. I’m a novice so the features you mentioned are not a big factor for me.

Well we know who wins in composition and who can get the best out of the camera. But here's the thing. It's not the camera or even the photo but taking the picture is the end itself not the means.

Funnier yet is pretending an iphone can match a prosumer camera saying " its insane" " crazy" etc

People who have been shooting professionally for a long time have known pro cameras as SLR-style cameras a lot longer than mirrorless-style cameras. Mirrorless cameras can also really be anything from an A7R3 to a point-and-shoot to an iPhone -- none of them have mirrors. I stand by our "mistake" haha.

Nope - the one which gives the most satisfaction. Which everyone has to define for himself. For me its quality over quantity. So I left the iPhone camp and bought a cheap Moto E22 - too bad nobody offers a cheap with a SINGLE back camera anymore. If I leave home I have at least a 12 year old MFT with me - no iPhone can produce such pictures as it does...

O may be won't 🤫😁

Hey this is an iphone infomercial can you see it? For this guy an iphone is better than a 5 million $ satellite.

@@Teluric2 I love iPhones if they give freedom of customization like android, specially file transfer (basic one). Both samsung knox and iPhone security are comparable, but not sure apple gives more premium value than other brands in world.

Where’s my money, Apple?! Ya… they’re not sending money to small-time channels like ours. If they did, I’d let you know. 👍

And the 15 comes out tomorrow! Let’s see what happens there.

@@runthejoules Could you please do a similar video on this? 15 pro or max? This video is epic

Yes, I guess it's exactly what you would expect with an AI "artist" putting in the details that aren't there in the initial image.

Only a true professional could pull that off 🤌😂

A profesional wouldnt compare an iphone to a procam

You say that you re android user because you know people wont believe ..anyway I dont believe you Android is better and I m an iphone user😃