It doesn’t look like grass makes you faster in iracing but it looks like it doesn’t slow you down. The same happens irl but only if it’s for a bit. That can be improved on iracing
No what is happening here is they are exploiting the tire model to cool the tires down by dipping them in the grass. This has since been fixed and banned.
@NestaMendes IRL you can usualy graze the grass and be fine, in gt clipping the grass is way more of a death sentence than it should be. Same goes for the astroterf and curbs
@@racecrashrepeatcuando vei a gente hablandonde forza, gran turismo, etc.... its arcade!! Not simulator, its a semisimulator, r factor, automobilista , assetto corsa etc
What I’m tired of seeing is arguing, IRacing and GT including ACC they are all great. To console users, GT in my opinon is their go to. I mean hey, it’s better than FORZA and it’s a good way to go price wise and every simulator is different. To ACC players IRacing feels different (and I know that damn sure) everything feels different. You won’t know until you try it out. GT is a great place to start especially on console only. But as a IRacing user I prefer it more. Same goes to ACC or Asseto Compettizone. Every sim is different. Sim Racing is a community not a war ground.
The problem is, I can’t say I disagree with you without a 3rd, 4th, 5th party coming in bashing. I personally think acc is terrible and far far underperforming, especially compared to gt7. I’ve never played iracing but have watched a plethora of videos and read tons of posts/reviews/etc and it really seems to me like iracing is just taking advantage of their fan base. The graphics are sub par, and the charges are outrageous. I can’t speak to the gameplay as I’ve never played but common consensus amongst those who don’t seem to show bias either way is that the cars feel “flat”. Most of the people bashing gt7 haven’t spent a lick of time in it, or did but didn’t give it a fraction the effort because people around them claimed it “simcade”. There are things that iracing offers that gt7 doesn’t (more tuning ability, added telemetry, availability to tracks not available in gt7, better penalty system, race stewards) just as gt7 offers things iracing doesn’t (dynamic weather, all cars for 1 price, availability to full lobbies without long wait, excellent graphics, career mode, licensing, etc). They both shine in different areas. I’d hardly call gt7 simcade though, you just have to set the game up for what your endgame is
iracing cars feel alot more like driving actual car than gt. even graphs are terrible it still is somehow warm and pleasant. but yes they are taking moneys out of fans big time i dont even wanna know how many hundreds ive spend
tony kanaan took his indy car though the grass at over 220 MPH during the indy 500 in 2023 and he after the race he didnt even know he was in the grass. GT7 is unrealistic as hell but try telling that to the PS guys and they lose their minds.
@@willlive6845yeah i can see that happening, PS/XBOX guys are just peak consumers lol, i mean they dont even notice GT7's quality as a product has skydived downwards
@@willlive6845nothing what you said about tha incident is even true the article describes the visibly moving around in the dirt keep talking shit just b3cause you think your better and it will hit you in the face when tou start lying
@@TheCapitalWandererbut gt7 you only have to pay 60 bucks once and you get to play the whole game and new cars every month while Iracing drools over your money every other minute
I'm assuming the person on GT7 doesn't know what they are doing. Yes you'll bounce a bit but jeez I've never spun out because of dipping 2 tires in the grass. Also there is a "real" setting for grass interaction on GT7 that closer simulates how much speed/grip is lost when hitting it.
if you've never spun out or at least went sideways because you dipped a tire or two in the grass under braking on gt7 then there's something wrong because it's very common, even amoungst the best gt7 players
@@juanriquelmi9076but when im accelerating and accidentally get on the grass, im still accelerating and i don’t lose control, the only thing that happens to me is that everything gets bumpy and i get back on the road without losing control
I do not defend iracing and have some issues in the game(like in interlagos in “junçao” curve that you cango all over the grass), but i recommend you to see more real race cars. That thing on GT7 i never see. Cars get on the grass all time(excluding in the rain) with two wheels.
Overcorrecting with traction on one side of the car will cause you to spin. Especially at high speed like on Spa after Eau Rouge. You’re going straight at such a speed that it would require a fair bit of input to cause oversteer like the GT7 example.
In iRacing, the grass isn't making you faster: it's a strategy people use to keep their tires cool. In fact, IRL drivers were using this at, Spa I believe IRL.
i noticed that too in mugello with f4 cars i accidentally went into grass and gained like 0,5. u can just go full throttle even coming back to track is easy
@frerac GT7 is far closer to a sim than an arcade racer. The difference between a sim and a ln arcade are also not black and white. Plus iracing is not the overall the most realistic sim.
@@frerac762 sorry bud but a sim is only as real as you make it; and falsely nitpicking gt7 is stupid. GT7 is the most realistic sim you can have on console, so its a sim. just not as detailed as the others, if it's not real its a sim, plain and simple
GT fanboys trying their best to make GT7 appear like a sim so resort to grass physics. Suppose thats where most of the racers spend their time after being rammed. At least you wont have any damage
Lmao gt7 all u have to do is smash the brake. Gt7 is a simcade, a video game meant to be enjoyed by everyone from young chikdren to old people, iracing is a straight sim.
@@mikekovacich2925 you obviously haven’t played GT don’t put GT into the category of a simcade nowhere near you can give that to Forza. gran Turismo is less for giving then iracing when you go from playing Gran Turismo to iracing you automatically feel more confident in iracing . I haven’t used a controller in over 10 years and when you say, Gran Turismo tries to appeal to all players, even people who play arcade racers still can’t play Gran Turismo even with all the driving aids turned on. can’t be a simcade if it’s officially supported by FIA (Gran Turismo the real driving simulator)
@jonevoix4206 I own gt7 and got to a+, I speak from experience. I spent 3 months on iracing and got 3x better in gt7, gt7 is a video game. Iracing is a sim subscription. Regardless of how polyphony markets their game its still a game. The physics are cool and intuitive but not realistic. O ya I drive real race cars and racing carts too so trust me I have zero idea what I'm taking about lol
@@mikekovacich2925 you’re definitely capping Gran Turismo is definitely a far more difficult simulator if you don’t take the right driving line on Gran Turismo you’re screwed iracing feels more planted and more forgiving you have zero idea what you’re talking about🤷🏻♂️ you definitely need more skills to play Gran Turismo then iracing 100% and I don’t compare Gran Turismo to real life. It’s actually more difficult than real life which is why it makes you a better driver nothing about Gran Turismo is simcade at all and no two cars in the game drive or feel the same that’s the thing about PC sim drivers they’re too proud and in denial that Gran Turismo is the standard and iracing is a scam and outdated game the thing about you iracing players doesn’t matter how much Gran Turismo innovates and improves it will never be a real simulator to you even if it’s completely correct ignorance is bliss
Driving in the grass doesn't slow you down at all. It does, however, provide less traction for braking and steering. If anything, a driver will let off the gas to avoid the loss of traction. That's why it seems to slow you down.
@@sckat5602 It isn't realistic as other simulators? Yeah It isn't a simulator by any means? Just false. It depends to which car you take in exam. Some are pure shit, basically all cars that relies on downforce, some instead are pretty good and not far from other counterparts or from real ones by any means, as confirmed by owners of these cars.
Iracing grass make tyres colder esport drivers did this after a few lap as the tyres would overheat so they dip a wheel in the grass to cool it down since this drama iracing have fixed this
@@irgendana25 i have an PS5 and always had a ps(since his debut), but you cant compare iracing, rfactor2 and automobilsta 2 with gran turismo. I kind like GT, but just to play around. I even bought an G29 for play exclusive in PS5(the thing is off for a month now).
Agree man… a have an ps5 with g29 that i play with the children when come over to my house. For the adults o have an DD with 3 g5 odyssey and quest 2, and iracing. I have a friend that come to play and 1 week already sell his PS5, mount a PC and buy an quest 2 and a DD. The guy get mesmerized by iracing(LH car), and automobilista 2.
@@kresleymoura lol, omg your so awesome man, I would love to see at what competative level you would be able to handle in the "kids game" guys with big mouths like u are normally really bad..... At everything, and then try and compensate by jumping on the elitest bandwagon to try and be relevant....... All I'm saying is.... If you aren't good at something... Don't knock it.....
Remember on 24h Nürburgring "Kevin Estre" overtook one guy in a Porsche 911 GT3 on the grass (2tires) and didnt spin or going wild like in GT7! Iam 4 sure GT7 is aagin more kind of a Arcade Racing Sim then Simulator
Now it only needs proper break snd eeight distribution physics for stuff like trail breaking , milliom times better Penalty system and gt7 would be a decent sim if it was on pc 😂
yeah it cools the tires, but they made it so it doesn’t cool the tires as much because people kept abusing it, people in real life even started doing it 😂
funny enough it did happen irl and the announcers even caught onto it. it was in the wet and someone actually went onto the grass to cool their tires lmao. think it was at road Atlanta. not as bad as iracing was but that means iracing wasn't too far off.
Gran truismo is not a sim, iracing is. You can practice for a real life race event in iracing, can't do that in gt. There's a reason iracing is the best sim. No matter what anyone says
ehhh... he lost control after putting his wheels back on the track and because he put the stering wheel upside down to the left in a split second after turning to the right... 🥴🥴
The "wheel" dipping issue at Spa and other related tracks has been patched out already. Plus, Gran Turismo 7 is a sim-cade. The handling characteristics between it and iRacing are so different, that the only thing to compare, really, is the online multiplayer experience.
sorry bud but a sim is only as real as you make it; and falsely nitpicking gt7 is stupid. GT7 is the most realistic sim you can have on console, so its a sim. just not as detailed as the others, if it's not real its a sim, plain and simple.
You’re just showing that iRacing is more realistic here, grass on racetracks is usually rather smooth and wouldn’t make you lose control like it does in GT. EDIT: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Axe2he6kCr4.htmlsi=TFGyYU0DJsWvUGbQ Estre being still alive is proof that I’m right.
Man , have you ever drive a real car ?? If you touch grass at high speed (over 100mpg) you instant spin like crazy because the you create a very unbalanced grip between the tires on the track and the tires on grass
@@bratosin1he literally linked a video to educate you. That’s a simcade over exaggeration to punish drivers, but it is not a common car reaction in real life.
i racing is so overrated because its fan girls spend so much money on the game , the cant let it go , It's funny, casual people say Gran Turismo is not a simulator and it's an arcade because they play with traction control on , they can't even drive with traction control off 😭
Modern race cars have traction control and ABS. I never understood this argument. In Iracing you can set between 0-x TC and 0-X ABS if the car has it. These are systems made to help the driver, and do not cause a lack of time. More traction means more speed.
It's OK to really like a racing game, but in all of his videos I just see bias over other racing games but GT. It's a good title, but far from perfect...
What? How is it a sim-Cade, had the most realistic physics other than maybe iracing itself, every track is realistic, has legitimate races and tournaments, except it’s more enjoyable than iracing and you don’t have to “borrow” your moms credit card every time you hop on
I love how you can say that to both of the video games. Both are a "real sim" and both are a video game. One is on consol, yes. But that is for smart people who aren't spending 2-3 grand just so they can play one game, like actual morons do!
@@Kluck0816typical ignorant answer. Do you know that iRacing actually pays you 10$ if you play at least 4 out of 6 races in every season? That’s 40$ a year. Black Friday subscription makes you save 110$ for 2 years. It’s 150$ saved, and you can earn those 40$ every year. If you only play 2 categories of car in the long run it’d cost what 30$ a year. For a simulator where the car damage is REAL as well at the tyres, laser scanned tracks, and realistic car feelings regardless if you have a 200$ or a 20000$ sim rig. And the list goes on. How much is GT? 70-80$? Every time you buy it 😂 there you go.
@@Luigidls94 uhhhhh wow 40 Bucks a year. woooooow. Who cares? The 40 bucks are nothing compared what you have to pay in order to even play. And dont get started on tracks and Cars.... i racing has one of the worst content models imo. Id rather get a new copy of GT for 70 bucks and have more content for that money compared to i racing hahahahaha
@@BeckMax your point is also not very clever, give some evidence, backing mate, in that clip he is getting draft from the car ahead and he slowly went onto the grass rather then the gt one where he threw it into the grass , and that was in 24 spa in 2022 where there was a glitch glitch that sped you up in the grass or something like that, it has since been patched
Heres a list of iRacing drivers that have made the transition into real life William Byron Ty Majeski Raja Caruth Glenn Mcgee Jimmy Broadbent James Baldwin Alex Bergeron Those are just a few and some of the most recognizeable ones. All from different series as well, from road racing to oval to dirt. iRacing has also help drivers find jobs within the motorsports industry Keegan Leahy Sebastian Job OC Racing Heres a list of real drivers that use iRacing as a training tool or for competition Max Verstappen Fernando Alonso Romain Grosjean Dale Earnhardt Jr Shane Van Gisbergen Daniel Morad and many others You have no actual clue what you are talking about. Also this video is riddled with misinformation and misrepresentation Grass doesnt make you faster, he is currently drafting the car ahead, and this was taken during the spa 24 of 2022 when a glitch was exploited to gain speed using the grass, which has since been patched, in GT7 he gets on the grass more aggressively hence the loss of control with the loss of traction, in iracing the drivers leave two wheels outside in the tarmac. iRacing has better physics than GT7. They can both teach you great stuff, and they have both forged real racing drivers, but iRacing is superior and more realistic
You guys are so triggered lmao, why would he respond, you guys got triggered by a year old comment, he probably doesn't even remember this video exists anymore, these are just games and gran turismo also made several people real racers, supergt, jann and many others, james baldwin is more of a acc guy not iracing
@@MCplayer94 its a 1 month old comment, secondly no one here is triggered. We corrected him and moved on, the only one making a big deal from this is you. So why are you triggered? Are you his defense attorney? You acting like we cooked you, instead of him 🤣 Please save yourself some time and dont reply, i aint getting back at you
@@neilbezuidenhout9284 Obviously not, iRacing was just made to satisfy the ultra extreme need of understeer in a car so then "tryhards" can come over iRacing to worship it like if it were a religion and hating everything that's not iRacing.
Could also make the argument that realistically a person that’s driving a GT3 car would have enough skill and awareness not to drive 2 wheels in the grass on a straight.
LMAO GTis so bad. I have seen so many passes made on that straight by dipping tires. That's unrealistic AF. All iRacing needs to do is increase its drag slightly. But GT gas you bouncing around like you're driving over railroad tracks LOL
@@malicad.wei14Lewis has publicly said he does not spend much of any time in simulators, I’m sure it’s much easier for him to play gt7 than it is like iracing when he is only playing once a year for 30 minutes.
