Is $260 Mac Pro Trashcan STILL a PRO ? 

I have a 2021 MacBook Pro, but for some reason I want a 2013 Mac Pro now...

I got one of these last year. I’ve always wanted them despite the general hatred of them but they were always too expensive. But now the price has come down so much that you can easily pick on up for around the $300 range. I spent another $300 or so maxing everything out and it’s a fantastic machine! I use it as my daily computer. So perfectly capable of most day to day tasks and more. And it just looks cool.

Got a 12 core D500 for $300 and it runs Logic Pro X beautifully with my six (6x$100) thunderbolt displays! Massive system for peanuts really

Despite being conceptually flawed, the sign of a timeless design is if it ages well. And this thing looks modern even today.

I got visual satissfaction during watching this video. Great work as usual. I like that comparison with Mac mini. That trash can Mac indeed looks awesome.

Your video editing are so satisfying!good work👍🏻

I love my Mac Pro. I maxed it out. When I bought it, it came with 128 gigs of ram. That dropped the speeds from the native 1866 to 1033. So I switched it to 64 gigs. I use RAM disk to do my video editing, rendering and converting. I get close to original video time when done rendering. Very satisfied with this beast. I know when I eventually buy Final Cut Pro the performance will be even greater

this was incredibly satisfying. thank you and great work.

This is terrific! You're gonna be huge!

I bought a Mac Pro 2013 with 2.7 12 core, 64GB Ram and Dual AMD D500's from OWC a couple years ago (New).

Great video and great editing too. Excellent knowledge. Sub'd !

you sir have earned yourself a new subscriber. beautiful video.

I”m still using one of these as a web dev box. Will likely hold on to it for at least another year and see what the M3 max studio is like. If anyone is thinking of buying one of these then my recommendation would be get one with D700s in it and don’t worry about the rest of the spec. Then upgrade it as follows 8 or 10 core CPU - the 12 is too slow at single core. 64Gb ram, it can go to 128gb, but only with slower memory The SSD can be upgraded to a later Apple version that was used in some MacBooks. You can also get an adaptor to you an M.2 SSD for even better speeds. Just make sure you get one with D700 GPUs, as upgrades are unobtainable.

Just found your channel. Excellent Content, Another sub for you sir!

I love the intro music. Well done.

I bought a used base model for £299 and stripped it, cleaned it, upgraded to 8 core 16 thread Zeon, 16GB ram and 1TB SSD. It runs great in Mac OS as well as windows 10.

I have this late version of 2013 Mac Pro with 32 Gb of ram and 1 TB memory. It was running slow as hell. I gave it a cleaning and it sped up dramatically. It should be supported until November of 2024 and then it will likely be obsolete. I’m planning to switch to a M3 Studio at that time is the game plan. This Mac Pro has been a great investment.

I will get one for collecting and tinkering. I love these machines. As well as the old 2010-2012 Mac Pros.

I picked up a late 2013 Mac Pro 6-core, 64GB ram, and a 256GB SSD. I spent another $100 on upgrading the SSD to 2TB. I love the way it runs. I might have found a used mini for my budget of $350, but it would have been hard. I did have one disapointment. I thought I would use it to run old copies of Adobe PS and Illustrator. But, I found that they only run Adobe cloud rental programs. I switched to Affinity for both.

I have been a Mac Guy since I bought my first Performa 475 "Everything in the Box" Macintosh from Sears and Roebuck back in 1994. Funny thing...since the release of Apple Silicon I have shaken off my nostalgia for older Macs. Yes, it's a decent hobby for Mac Enthusiasts to buy, sell and trade interesting (and formerly unobtainable) Apple Products but I am so in thrall of the potential of Apple Silicon that I am all in and looking ahead to Apple's future and the impact that ARM-based processors will have on the Computer Industry overall.

I run my recording studio with my Mac Pro 2013 12-Core 64GB ram with 500GB SSD and it runs fast and is great at working with heavy music production tasks. I had bought a Macbook Pro with the M1 Pro chip and it was lightning fast but because of stability reasons (Avid Pro Tools program) I had to go back to the 2013 Mac Pro. Since I’m running a business, stability and reliability is everything, hence why I had to go back but it was so worth it. I love my Mac Pro 2013. It would be nice to see you compare the 12 core version with 64gb ram vs your M1 Mac Mini. Great video 🙏🏼

BRILLIANT VIDEO .

great video and great work Ihor !!! Just subscribed and hope to see more!

Smashed the like button. What are you going to get next?

OH, ...... the intro music. LOVE IT!

I started seeing this model going cheap, I need a workstation for programming, taking my zoom meetings and browse web with some ocasional RU-vid videos on background, i would go for the m1 mini as you said but I think I will have a better experience with the 2013 (just for windows with boot camp or the ability to run multiple vms thanks to the ram) so thank you for making this video, it’s exactly what I was looking for, new subscriber by the way, keep doing it 🎉

best looking mac by far

Of course you can use it…I’m still using mine!! 😁

Good video. I wanted to ask if you can point towards the process involved for the EFI unlock process and steps. If you have links/resources that would be appreciated.

Thank you

Hey there, thanks for the vid!!! I'm really into going to do the same purchase, but I don't know if you tried or are you going to, do you think would be a decent machine to run ComfyUI?

video looks good :)

I still use my Mac Pro 5,1, I love my Mac Pro 2013 run with Ext Radeon Vega 56. I jst recent brought a Mac Pro 5,1 came with Firmware lock how disable it

Did you notice your machine is not showing time and other icons such as control center in the upper right corner area, i.e. at 11:47 and 13:00 in your video? Is it always like that? The reason I'm asking is because I recently got one Mac Pro and it's doing the same thing which is a bit strange. It works fine when not showing those info. However, if I restart it over and over manually, I could occasionally get it to show those info. But it wouldn't last more than a minute or so before it froze and restarted itself. Not sure if you ever experienced this with your machine?

Having the d700 gpus and the 12 core processor make a difference over the quad and the d300. I recently got a 6 core with the d700 gpus and 32 gb of ram for $200 because it didn’t have an ssd. $38 for an oem 500 gb ssd, and it runs great. Much closer to an m1 mac mini in performance. Crazy it was $5200 when it was ordered in 2015.

How do you only have 1.11K? Subbed.

I really want to put a Mac mini m1 in to the chassis of one of these trashcans. I think it would be so cool!

I'm still using one all day everyday to run my audio studio. I took mine to 10-core, 32Gb Ram, and 1 T/B Nvme drive. I think I've maybe got one more year left before I'm forced to update to keep compatible.

thanks.

I use a Mac Pro 2013 mainly for web based stuff. I think they're pretty cheap now and looks cool for something that can do most tasks. Of course a "pro" might need something more. But it still can do photo editing, video editing and programming, albeit a bit slower than a new computer.

Awesome

To look cool and run quiet, they put the slow fan in the middle. To appeal to pros, they provided for quite a bit of circuitry in a small case. To make a market disaster, the fan could not keep up when all of the chips were going flat out for hours... exactly what a pro would want to use it for, doing pro stuff like video editing. Nice smooth easy to follow video and narration. I could watch someone unscrew components all day, as long as I'm not responsible! The 80's synthpop tunes in the background were a perfect choice. Did you just put spaces for the new password? How exactly do you clear it? If the Mission Impossible team could distract someone for ten minutes, they could reset the password! I'm not happy to see you, that's an RPi in my pocket. And put it back with improved thermal paste so that the bad guys think it runs better than ever... What's the going price for these with everything turning on okay?

Could you make an in depth video about that firmware password stuff?

Would you compare this to an intel Mac mini which is actually in the same price range.

just a heads up: MX4 thermal paste likes to pump out on bare dies, next time you repaste this use MX6 on the GPUs instead

I can agree, I baught one in 2024. The seller could not made any description about the processor: he only wrote 8GB Ram, no SSD..... I baught iut for 299 € It came and I put 4 x 16GB ( baught on ebay for 62 € ) and an old 256 SSD from an other MacPro 6.1 and.... suprise suprise: it was a 8 Core machine ( 3.0 ) and the D700 ( 2 x 6GB ) now it is a perfect office pc that is also perfect to capture video with blackmagic thunderbolt video recorder

Hi Ihor :-) I am trying to use my mac pro with a new screen that has USB C! I am not at all an expert and I got the Pro very cheap. Can you please tell me what cable to use ? I have tried some forums but lets just say people were not that nice when I asked this question (I guess everyone was born an expert) :-)

My dad bought an old school Mac mini and now it locked me out because it needs a admin password from the school. And idea how I can do a full wipe and remove the admin lock so I can use it again?

This is more cool than the cube, I think.

Gave my old trascan 12/64/d500/512 to my little kids as a plaything installed windows 11 pro on it and upgraded to a 1Tb m.2 So now it is gameconsole at the mercy of the cruelest users kids lol barbie cant sit on the top really sweetheart and chewinggum shuld not be placed in there but it still works fine and makes my kids happy So recyceling e-waste in the best way!

Why did you not upgrade the quad core to a 12 core ?

I happen to have a 2009 Mac Pro 8 core with a rx 480 and a 2013 Mac Pro 8 core with the D300 gpus. Running the same 1080p video edit in Davinci Resolve, the 2009 cmp is 4 times faster 😢. Oh well, my trash can is still faster than my 2014 macmini 😅. I’ve got Monterey on all of them btw

I thought this was one of the most ridiculous computers ever designed. I bought one, used for a day and returned. Lovely and quiet. Looks good but ultimately not worth the risk at the time.

still pro for music

great stuff, I've never seen such a device before

What's that tune?

I would love to get one of these with dual D700 and put Linux on it. The machine would scream

It make sense as to why they didn’t hold their value. They were built to be thrown in the trash. I have a Mac Pro 2009 and it runs like a top. Is it the fastest machine out there? No, it comes somewhere in the middle of all the newest machines fro Apple. The price for that machine would cost around $4,000 but mine only cost me around $600 upgraded. So it’s obvious why older “cheese graders” Mac Pro are liked so much today. So we come to this 2013 trash can Mac Pro. It’s limited by the inability to upgrade the OS. In your case, you had to use a Pie machine to hack the software to upgrade the OS. For most people, this is just a bridge too far and that is the reason why they are selling for a few hundred dollars. It also dictates where Mac is going to miss the mark. With the M1, M2, M3 machines designed to never be opened (or upgraded). It seems Apple wants to control your needs by charging you every time you figure out you need more computer. It might be the end of the road for older Mac Pro trash cans and above. So where does this leave Mac OS lovers? Basically Sonoma is it for Mac Pro 5,1 or 6,. The main problem right now is that the latest OS doesn’t recognize the mouse our keyboard. Hardware wise, with a little bit of work, you can turn a PC into a Sonoma Mac machine. With DosDude or someone else,you can keep upgradable Macs going just not a Mac. I am sure the newest OS’s (once figured out) will take the latest and greatest Mac OS’s but maybe a few years behind.

nostalgia honestly

As a professional video editor who has seen many Trashcan Mac pro failures, due to GPU overheating. I can't bring myself to ever want to own one, even though I think the design is pretty cool, other than the power switch being on the wrong side.

Ahah, awesome :)

Hmmm, cant load it up or boot it. Sounds like someone reported it stolen and it's been permablocked.

idk if this video is going to be any good but it's getting a "like" for the intro alone

The 10 year old Mac Pro is slower than the base model Mac Mini, that is unsurprising. I wonder how fast of a CPU you could put in one of these Mac Pros though. Maybe with a newer Intel chip and updated graphics cards the scores would be closer. But it is already over unfortunately. It is not worth doing that as OS X for intel has been discontinued.

Today, in October of 2023, a brand new Mac Pro will cost about $9000 USD, and it cannot even accept a PCI-Express video card! And it also *cannot* *accept* an external GPU box over Thunderbolt. $9000, and the customer has to make due with the weak gpu that is built into the M2 Ultra processor. NVidia or AMD video cards are light-years faster than what come with the M2 Mac Pro.

I am surprised to know that a mac mini is much powerful than a 2013 mac pro, sometimes more than twice powerful. Currently the m1 mac is cheap(especially used ones), also it cost much less power, so you will save from electricity bills. I think 2013 mac pro is not worth to buy nowadays.

Let me fix the title: "How to mitigate Mac Pro firmware lock and complete teardown."

it can actually do up to 128gb ram not 64

I hate it when someone calls this a trash can. Should just call it a can instead.

yes… the visual aspects of the design are amazing… alas they’re not practical from any use-case standpoint, as expected from an expensive pro-machine… Expandable? hardly…

The only cool thing on this machine are the proprietary PCi-e ricer cables.

it is a "pro" trashbin, no more and no less - only fancy trashbin

So any M1/2 Mac can beat the Mac Pro and they should.

Mac folks love to say that Mac has a great resale value. $260 for a $6000 trashcan Mac Pro? horrible.

You refer to the MacPro as a Mac mini at one point :/

turn down the intro music

No sound.

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same pro as you bought it overpriced before. now is like raspberrrypi

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