Is 4:3 just a fad? - Rainbow Six Siege 

Imagine seeing gridlock in that res

i've played 4:3 for the past 10 years, allow me to elaborate on a few things. 1: no pro says it's better - only that they prefer it (or atleast they should say that) 2: you forgot the change in recoil - by making things wider you make recoil wider (down side of 4:3) 3: things see to move faster on 4:3 left to right, but slower up / down 4: you state that peripheral view is important, i beg to differ - you should not be winning gun fights against ppl that are more then 30degrees to the right or left - you should have your croshair placement on or within the posible target location before needing to shoot. 5: it use to give higher fps in certain games - this made alot of ppl play that, and they stuck with it for years, the only reason being that they were comfy with this. 6: your horizontal / vertical sens changes proportional to your aspect ratio - meaning left right movement feels faster - so it comes more natural to most (this can be done by ofsetting sens in 16:9) aswell 7: Most important - ppl have to stop copying settings that work for others, if a pro runs 8:8/50 - 4:3 - 78fov - doesnt mean that you should, it means thats what works for him. find your own settings guys - no FOV / Aspect or Sens has made anyone pro - its never the mouse, the screen or the settings -

Worry not, I actually once walked around my house with a cheap binos as a kid when my mom bought them. Thought it was cool back then.

You in the wrong career bud what you should be doing is narrating a movie

so it's not only cs players who are obsessed with 4:3.

Hey Rogue-9, I know this video is roughly 2 years old, and so this comment will probably be lost, but if it is discovered, I found a problem with your methodology in this video. These findings aren't *necessarily* correct because you've forgotten to taken into consideration how your view changes when you ADS. The advantage between playing on 16:9 and 5:4 is far more noticeable when you ADS with an ACOG. The picture appearing more 'squished' becomes negligible when using the ACOG, because the ACOG provides the same magnification across all aspect ratios, but covers a greater area of the screen when using lower aspect ratios. I don't think this was intended by Ubisoft.

I don’t even play the game. Why am I here?

4:3 FOV 74. My thoughts are, yes with wider field of view you can see enemies that is to your hard left easier, but what is the chances of you managing to flick and get them? I woukd rather have an easier time locating enemies in front of me than to my sides

3x bino squad, ASSEMBLE! *WHATEVENISWEIRDPASTTIMES

AGH MY EYES

The main thing you use lower aspect ratios for is for the zoom of it with 1x sights. Aspect ratios only effect vertical "FOV". When you turn down your FOV, it also turns your vertical FOV down. To get a zoom for 1x sights, you just need horizontal so there is no reason to sacrifice the vertical FOV. It's only because of that vertical FOV difference that people use 4:3, 3:2, and 5:4

*TheMoreYouKnow*

Dudes crazy playing 4:3 ACOG 60 FOV I mostly use it just to play holo

I can relate to the binocular thing. I'd use them properly and roam around the house and when I'd get bored I'd turn it around and see my room seemingly 10m away (even though it was less than 2 feet away from me). Oh, those were simpler times.

That beginning part made me sick enough I had to move my phone like 3 feet away from my face

I can imagine that "squashing" everything vertically can help bringing everything closer to the middle of your screen because your vertical FOV should become larger when using the same horizontal FOV. Could be useful on maps like tower or in general when vertical play is used a lot. Also because everything is closer to the middle horizontal line of your monitor you eyes might be quicker on target. Heard in a video that faster eyetracking relates to quicker aim on target and I feel like it helped me playing better. To concentrate more on keeping my eye on the target. It feels sometimes as if my hand does the aiming more on autopilot and faster.

I play in 4:3 because that's my monitor native aspect ratio. :(

16:10 Aspect 90 FOV is where it’s at.

loved the music at the end, good tunes!

I was literally too busy watching the gameplay that I didn’t know what you were saying😂😂 not kidding! Had to replay the video again, lol

Hay I just want to say that you are a great youtuber and you deserve more subs please continue with your great content ;)

4:3 is pretty common in CSGO, I think it's just personal preference really. I prefer to just play at my monitors native res

Ohhhh, Simon Viklund. Gotta love that guy

Perfect select of outro music! Payday 2... I loved it.

I was using stretched 4:3 for some time. After I moved back to my screen's native resolution of 16:9 my performance improved considerably. Simple because the mouse movement on the stretched 4:3 does not match the movement of your hand. It is not a 1:1 correlation. If you draw a circle with your mouse, it will look like an oval on your screen. Although it is possible to set different values for the horizontal sensitivity and the vertical sensitivity. But I haven't messed around with that yet.

I imagine it would be quite advantageous doing this 4:3 thing in close quarter settings where you're peaking around corners looking towards areas where threats commonly camp at

Im hearing that Payday 2 Soundtrack and am appreciating it, good vid

The binoculars example..... On point😂😂😂👌🏻

He was using acog on ash 😭

4:3 = less vram usage than 16:9, so, in theory, more frames. I say "in theory" because 16:9 with no extras vs 4:3 with everything maxed out winds up being more frames at 16:9

I need help, I put 1280 by 960 resolution on just to test it, and now it wont go back to 1920 by 1080?

I’m late but low fov can cause motion sickness and personally 4:3 is basically small fov, but everybody should still either increase or decrease your fov never leave your fov on default.

The thing about playing 4:3 comes down to the fact that people used to play on CRT monitors (me included). I remember playing CS 1.6 on a 4:3 CRT monitor on Friday nights with my older brother, rushing B each round. It has stuck around, and it does give some what of an advantage, but it also comes with many disadvantages. Namely, if someone sees a lot of "pros" playing 4:3 on their 16:9 monitor, whilst they've never themselves used any other aspect ratio before, they're going to have troubles with readjusting their aim (taking that they've not taken the time to re-adjust their sensitivity to match the new aspect ratio setting). People switching from years of using and building up muscle memory and reflex skills on specific aspect ratio + resolution + fov + mouse sensitivity settings might at first experience the placebo effect (where you think you're doing better because of the new changes, but it's more than likely due to you now being hyper sensitive and focused due to the new settings). Once you get used to playing on the new settings, you will fall back on to your muscle memory, and if you've changed your settings too much from the norm, you're going to have a tough time readjusting. If you're actually thinking of going from whatever resolution + aspect ratio + fov + mouse sensitivity (and all other settings included that go into all of this that weren't mentioned in the video, such as mouse space, the type of mouse grip you've got + what mouse you're using, DPI settings, etc.) then the change should be done gradually. I personally made a 'big' leap from going from a 4:3 CRT to a 16:9 LCD many many years ago, and I stuck to using 4:3 for a little while until I started to gradually rescale all my games to 16:9. Now that I've switched to a 21:9 aspect ratio about a year or so ago, I still use 16:9 stretched in competitive games, and I run native 21:9 for that extra crispiness in non-competitive games. I've personally found that to be a good balance for me, and my setup, and I've retrained my muscle memory to match the settings. Going from 16:9 to 16:9 stretched to 21:9 isn't as big of a change as adding extra 5 units to the width of your gameplay (does increase field of view, but in a competitive game I like the balance of zoomed in 16:9, but it's stretched onto 21:9 for that cinematic effect). Overall, if you're used to 16:9 at 90 fov, and you're REALLY thinking of changing to something like 4:3, make sure you're doing the change gradually. It's like jumping into the pool on the deep end when you've barely learnt how to swim (a bit of an extreme metaphor to use, but it should get the point across).

God, just watching the lower FOV footage was giving me motion sickness blegh I'll keep 16x9 with a good FOV

Can you please make a video about your controls settings? I'm really curious about them.

Can you do a video on what exactly Finka's boost does?

I use 16:10, I think it makes the holo sight way more viable imo

Nice vid, nice facts!

This was an awesome video!

Every time you do an experiment it’s like a little science fair

21:9 with max fov is where its at, Up next 32:9 so I can see everything in the room all at once.

me after watching the video: mhm mhm intresting *goes on siege and gets 4:3 fov 90*

Love that pd ost at the end

5:4 60fov feels like playing the sum of all fears lmao

rogue 9 can't stop me from playing 5:4 stretched with fov 90

Not kidding but my eyes are hurting after this videos😂😂😂 I just stay at 16:9 and thats it

This is awesome! Exactly what I needed!!

I never expected it to be because people get a "bigger target" but because during warmup it allowed you to get used to attacking targets despite a more obscure vision. Helping you do better when you actually switch back to the normal aspect ratio. But still it's gonna throw off your aim every darn time unless you keep switching between the two extremely frequently.

I get a headache if I try anything other than 16:9 w/ 90-110 fov :P Only reason I use that

I personally like 4:3 because i played cs with that aspect ratio for such a long time it feels natural resulting it me peforming better

When are we getting Favela? I really miss going to the top of those stairs to flank people

One way to explain it, is that many 16:9 monitors are locked to 60 hertz refresh rate when in 1080p 16:9 but when you use resolutions such as 1024:768 in 4:3 you can refresh at 75 hertz. I play both CS and Rainbow, almost all CS players use 4:3 stretching the image to cover the black bars on the sides

Rogue-9 a year ago: “Is 4:3 just a fad?” Golds, Platinums, and Diamonds: *No.*

I play 3:2 at 82 FOV

Thanks this helped me a lot especially that I am on console

I had these yellow binoculars as a kid... I understand you perfectly

16:9 fov:90 that's what i play om

Next thing they'll be using CRT 'tube' televisions for less lag too! lol

Great video as usual! Can you make a video on the best sensitivity to get 1:1 ratio distance between ADS and hipfire in Siege? For example, in CS:GO, it is 0.81, while in Overwatch it is 38. Also, not sure if this is possible, but making a video on converting sensitivities between Siege and different games would be amazing (eg Overwatch to Siege, or cs:go to Siege or BF1 to siege).

I play 16:9 with a FOV of 90. I just want to have a beautiful game when i play. But i dont know what to do with the FOV. Should i decrease it?

The interest of having a big FOV and stretched AR is to provide larger opponents horizontally while having the same vertical height as a normal AR. At the end you have larger opponents but the vertical recoil (the one you have to manage) is the same as a 16:9 AR, and you get more spatial awareness than getting just a low fov. This is not just simply "it zooms less than low fov and it's ugly", there is a lot more to it, you can break the limitations of fov and get completly different feelings about your accuracy and recoil control. The other things is that it changes your "felt" sensitivity, you won't have the same on the two axis. Not a bad video by any means, but usually you dig more on the subject, there is a lot of things you simply skip in there... A lot of people are going to forget completly streched AR and not even search what it provides more and if it's not better for them (and I'm a 16:9 player, I've just tried a lot of things to get where I am). Keep the good work tho.

4:3 comes from old school cs:go players who are used to this res and start playing R6 Siege thinking its a very similar game

Thanks for clearing this up

Finaly a FPS guide for R6S made by Rouge comeing soon. I am exited. Hopefully you give us something usefull.

5:4 90 Gov I'm fast as buck boi

Actually there is more to fov and aspect ratio. Fov also changes movement speed (the rate the objects move on your screen not, not the actual character speed) and edge distortion (object stratching on edges and not on the center) . Higher fov gives finite understanding of object distance (for both depth and width) but also makes objects smaller. Aspect ratio gives you zoom (more or less peripheral view) , stretch and different horizontal/vertical sens *feel* (actual movement remains the same) One thing to mention is that zoom (in/out) will change the way you see recoil - more zoom equals to you trying harder do control the same gun and less zoom equals to you trying less hard to control the same gun (with the same results btw) Now I am an odd player.. I play on 19/10 86 fov it gives me peripheral view equal to 16/9 90, less distortion and a more comfortable (for me) depth understanding. Hope I helped some of you and remember that zoom out (19/10) + less fov can be extremely good (imo)

The only benefit of 4:3 is greater vertical peripheral vision bang-for-buck. I think it's helpful for sure. You don't need much vertical resolution, so to speak, since targets are mostly vertical, so the extra vertical fov is worth it (since there's so much verticality in siege)

have you considered that with a larger aspect ratio such as 4:3 you retain your vertical fov while sacrificing some horizontal fov in order to gain more zoom (dont know how that would be any good), But by doing this any motion from side to side on the screen will be exagerated as well which could maybe allow to better track moving targets? (i guess?)

I actually play on 16:9 90 FOV ;-; with 1440p tho

16x10 gang? anyone?, lmao

Great video needless to say. One thing i would like to add is that changing the aspect ratio off of native causes fps drops for many players. Obviously that depends on what settings they have in the graphics as well as what rig they have. But if your computer can handle it, changing the aspect ratio and fov to suit your style is honestly an amazing addition to your gameplay.

Just had come to the same conclusion by myself, nice to see I'm not that stupid. Thanks for the video!

If I try to play much below 90 FOV I feel like I have to vomit.

Reasons to play 4:3? *french/english trap rap starts playing, 4 button intesifies, you suddenly hear onetaps go off in the distance, people start losing their heads* #shaiikLove

The first video of yours I’ve ever watched, and the instant I heard your voice I thought I was watching a documentary

Could you look at Ela's scorpion's recoil now? It seems to me like after the latest patch it has gone down from where it was when operation chimera was released. Thanks

I use 3:2 and its perfect

Wait, do you play PAYDAY2 Rogue9? I must ask seeing that you know Simon Viklund.

I really want to watch the rest of this video because I like your videos. But this is hurting my eyes, I’ll be back next video lol

Does anyone know the song? I hear it all the time in theme park lines or something

Aspect ratio and FOV is all personal preference. However many tests you do doesn't prove which ratio or FOV is better. All just total preference.

4:3 is used because the render system used by the game doesnt scale it properly. Also the vertical height doesn't matter because of how recoil works so 4:3 is used simply because in pro league lots of people run holo sights because its only day maps and 4:3 is like running a low fps but due to how the scaling bugs you dont feel as boxed in though you shouldnt run below 90fov on 4:3

Love the outro

Could it improve framerate when putting less on screen?

My eyes hurt

Lots of players swear on 4:3, in the end it should come down to personal preference. I have only played 16:9 so far, might give 4:3 and some other ratios a shot and see how they work out.

Wouldnt your mouse also move more horizontally canceling out the wider targets?

nice Outro!

Max FOV all the way, in any game, even if it's a casual game for me, I just love having a wide FOV and seeing as much as possible (even if it costs me some FPS)

I knew that weird aspect ratio wasn't that helpful. Now I have a proof of that! Many thanks for your vids, Rogue!

Great video budy :)

I play on console and i use tv. What is better? (im plat 2 now with 16:9) its better 4:3?

Does anyone else use 16:10?

CS:GO player here, literally just a fad. Most likely CS:GO players moving to R6S and just going with what they're used to. Which is funny, most people who do that started with 1.6 or CS:S. Guess some people just can't forget about the past.

Had to play with a 4:3 screen last summer. Brought back memories, and a headache.

does fov changes the perspective?

5:30

21:9 Master Race. Ultrawide forever.

what if you use a stretched 2:1 res on an ultrawide monitor?

I'm all about that 21:9 aspect ratio. The naturally high FOV with a smaller height makes it easier to target enemies and I still get a large peripheral view.