Perspective, Positioning and Stances To Get Kills - Rainbow Six Siege 

Correction: I have received a clarification from the devs that even after the Burnt Horizon patch, the camera still slightly shifts when leaning. It moves over to the eye on the side that you are leaning to, so the change is not as significant as we have been assuming all this time.

Am I the only one who thinks Rogue 9 kinda sounds like the voice in a plane safety video?

Get_Flanked: This Game has perspective issues Coreross: No you're wrong. You don't understand the game Get_Flanked: How dare you challenge my knowledge of the game Rogue-9: Be quiet I will teach you two.

Wow, the thumbnail itself explained the issue almost entirely.

12:30 As master Obi-wan Kenobi once said: "It's over, Anakin. I have the high ground!"

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In real life when in a gun fight it is taught to not suck up onto cover. Depending on the circumstances, the farther off cover you are the better cover you have due in part to slower exposure as you pie the angle and also the angle of bullets as they ricochet off cover.

Lovely video. Complex subject ☺️

I hate it when i’m holding an angle and all of a sudden a guy with 300 ping teleports around the corner and kills me .

Pro tip: use smaller headgears (I know the hitbox doesn't change but with a smaller one its more difficult to see it behind cover) Also, idle animations should be removed when ADSing and drastically reduced in general

You forgot to compare leaning when rappeling ! This and no comparaison with any animals ? Bring back old Rogue-9 :'( (Good video as always).

I don't even have words to describe how well thought out and put together your videos are. Keep up the good work! 👍

Your videos help me so much at improving ty

this is probably one of your most useful videos to date. Love your work man

It's possible that you're the first channel ive ever subscribed to in my life, but you're such a giant nerd that I absolutely love it. Kindred spirits, dude!

dropping a video while server maintenance goes live, nice timing!

Well this happens in real life too, because my shoulders extend out further than my eye does so having the camera switch between eyes is probably the best we're going to get

I would happily hear a documentary with his voice for hours.

Rogue ive been your subscriber for something about 2.5 years i think and i gotta say you are one of my favourite RU-vidrs you have top quality content

I love such nerdy stuff. And i learned something, gonna keep that in mind. TY, DUDE!

Very very thorough. Impressive work as always

your videos hold the most crucial and important information. thank you.

Gotta admire the effort he puts into these videos just to give us an edge in the game. Hats off to you Rogue.

I was looking for this video so long thx!

Fantastic video as always!

love the music at the end !

Great video. Very informative and easily understood

Thank you for such a helpful video. Your voice is calming too.

I hate it when I'm holding an angle and a guy just peeks with light-speed and kills me. I mean, I was prepared why the f did I die, I hate myself.

Auto liking every rogue upload.

I loved this video it is so high quality I shared it to all my Discord's. Also I have a question, What are your in-game graphical settings Mr. Rogue? And BTW I envy your beard lmao.

Wow actual bangers for the outro lol wish my local nightclub knew how to pump these out 😝

Great video!

Can you look into the perspectives when fighting form an upside down rappel and against an upside down rappel? I I feel like you have an advantage when rappeling upside down

2:40 you look exactly as I pictured you

good video...idea for another vid: How Nomad works! Airjabs in detail...

Wow you look way different than the voice presents itself. It's amazing. Keep up the content.

So the other weapon comparison videos are coming or did you ditch them?

Good Video! I wonder who would win the perspective battle and who has the advantage when someone is rappelled upside down on windows?

That’s always been a thing about being closer to cover

Nice. New lot about prespective.

13:37 LMAO!!!! "ANT INFESTATION!" YOUR VIDEOS ARE THE BEST ROGUE!!!!

Who tf would downvote this video?! wow... Awesome vid Rogue!

Oof I can hear the drop in mic quality when you’re using the DROP headset. What mic(s) do you use, along with any pre amps or other accessories? I’m interested

I've been sick for three days, but hearing Rogue's voice cured me instantly

Here when the vid is still maxed at 360p

Flanked comes out roasted from PERSPECTIVE GATE

Position is one of my favourite features in any game. It's a game changer, really. There are so many advantages and disadvantages with camera positions, player models, maps and just Siege's leaning feature in total. Playing the game while only thinking about perspective makes it an entirely different experience, almost a different game. Keep up the good work.

First. Great video, as always. Hats off, good Sir! Second. I Think this whole perspective discussion shifted the attention to the wrong way. Everything is very helpful in here, but i dont think this has to do anything with the problem. Since they attempt to fix lean-spam (i used this as a point in TIME, i am not even sure that "fix" has anything to do with the real issue) the difference between what we see on the screen, and what the "server sees" is in a bigger de-sync. At least once a day i have a kill-cam where i dont see a thing on my screen, but i get killed, and in the kill cam the enemy had a good second to spot-aim-shoot me. Sure this problem was always a problem in Siege, but not as often and not as visible as in these days. I dont know what is causing this, but something went wrong, and it is worse than it used to be. Maybe net-code changes, maybe server changes (i would love to see a new server analysis in these days, i would not be surprised if they are not 60 tick as promised, just 50 tick, or even worse...), i am not sure. The only thing i know, we never had this much de-sync since they introduced dedicated servers. Not even before Operation Health. Sure we had issue back then, but not this pronounced. Everybody was talking about this as "Kill-Cam De-sync" months ago, and now we explaining it as a "perspective issue", and we missing the point of things getting worse. In my experience the "ghost" (the player model seen by the server/then after that by other players) is more separated from the client side view. And on the top of that since then i changed my internet provider, my ping is 4 times less, than used to be. The so called "peekers advantage" is not feel worse than it was before. But the sync is out of control. This is the problem, not the perspective or the difference between the 1st and 3rd person view. (we got used to that years ago, this is something new). It is hurts me to see more and more problem with a game we all love so much.

Many times when I look around when peeking a pixel angel and then look back (only mouse input without movement), the angel is no longer visible due to perspective changes. I have no idea whether it is caused by position changes when turning around, or perspective changes when turning. It is quite confusing. Could you plz test it out?

Ant infestation at HQ XD love it.

Good video 👌

Pls make a video on controler rotation curve setting pls. Love your work and dedication

Sick outro

I'd love to see your analysis of this for repelling attackers.

Thanks, will come in very handy xD

Does this happen vertically? such as an attacker rappelling upside down from a window, because I was killed by a maverick who was able to see my whole body while I could only see the tip of his cap. Just wondering.

The king speaks

GetFlanked is about to bust a vein when he sees this... Lmao

GOOOD VERY GOOD !

I thought you would go over rappelling upside down, there's a few OP angles right now, I don't know if it's natural perspective or bugged. There's also instances when rappelling normally that you can be seen almost entirely due to your back/butt standing way too far from the wall, but your head being closer, a common instance of this happening is in Coastline's bedroom big window, I've gotten killed on that one without seeing the enemy so many times when holding an angle.

Nice video sir!!! ❤❤ try also escape from tarkov 🙂🙂

6:35 that was so satisfying

I'n Cafe there are multiple angles that are so tight you can't see the enemy behind. A good example is the third floor skylight. You can hold an angle from the roof that is so tight there is no visible gap for the person behind the counter

Can you test Jager's ADS. Its max range, if two ADS pellets can really be used for one grenade, and if there is a way for attackers to throw grenades behind cover so that it blocks the ADS from destroying the Grenade

One thing that dirves me crazy in this game , more so being an ArmA player, is that bullets don't come out of your gun, they come out of your camera.

Idealy you would set 2 perspective cones, one at each eye, and then you merge them, getting rid of any blind spots.

Was going to get some sleep considering I have work in 3 hours *sees new r9 vid* Sleep if for the weak anyway Love the content my guy, much love from aus

What about leaning while rappelling?

So I come to learn how to statistically be better at the game... it works as I've went from mod Silver to low Plat... and I also leave with a new playlist. On every video there's always a banging tune at the outro.

does the mass drop headphones work for ps4? or is it only for pc

I actually have a version of the headset advertised. I really like it.

I've gotten way better thanks keep it up

can you make a video of the new controller rotation aetting on consoles?

Bikini avenging the rook I can already hear him speaking lol

Fact´s. great vid! i hope we have this topic under control now haha

What a great an informative way to start a day. Great Job Rogue9

This takes me back to the matchmaking academy when WarOwl talked about perspective lol

The only stance i need is Tachanka standing at his turret, all the enemies just run away in fear of the power i hold.

Long story short: If anyone has ever done real life force on force firearms training with simunition or airsoft and has worked around walls and barricades would understand exactly how perspective works, and how distance from cover affects how much of you is exposed. I love the detail of the left handed grip on the weapons, and how by swapping hands it minimizes exposure. I think the leaning an perspective system post-update is fairly realistic and makes a lot of sense now.

Yay the golden voice uploaded again

I think you forgot that Caveira changes stance when her ability is active and it would be interesting to know how this could help her. I don't have Nokk but she might get a similar effect?

Ok, we've known about this in csgo for a long ass time, its just that there we considered it a game-play element instead of "bad perspective" its always been advised in counter strike to jiggle peak far from cover.

my kill cams almost always reveal exactly what youre saying. I think im in cover but im really not at all, now I back away from corners and become more conscious about it. doesn't help my aim on controller but my deaths are less from silhouetting.

Not all heroes wear capes, thanks R9!

A moment to contemplate the extremely neat and uniform nature of Rogue's beard. Sehr Deutsch, sehr fein!

The other thing about fighting people above you is that, atleast in cases where they have a major height advantage, their arms will block a good portion of their head

When I play alone I play really well and typically carry, but when I play with more then three people in my squad my headshots don’t register I get shot while behind cover, and I just generally play way worse. Does anyone have an explanation, yes I’m normally host and it is on ps4

Literally just bought a new headset this week. Wish i saw this first

Does leaning change the recoil pattern ?

Never seen that godly beard before my man.

Rogue9 joins the fight

The idle animation explanation killed me 😂

I've died to the "ants in pants" character movement before. I was tucked in a corner, dude only could see my shoulder swaying in n out cuz of that crap.

Can you maybe also make an additional video on perspective while repelling?

i think it was just how drastic the change was. when it was announced i dont think most people thought it would matter that much and had been set in how the previous camera was. i do think these need to be better explained by the dev team then just picture when they make a change like this.

What other games were you playing in the demonstrations? I know csgo was one but what was the other?

Well I’ve learned that in reality your suppose to be a bit farther from cover like a corner so you can see better and be in cover better. So I think it’s a good touch of realism

isnt it funny how the spnsorship is out of synch with the video footage

Why do you have 5 Shots for Zofia in the first clip?