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Is A Throttle Body Spacer Worth It? 

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In this video, I'm trying a throttle body spacer on my 2007 Chevy Trailblazer. I've never used one before, so I don't know what to expect. Is it worth it or not? That is the question I'm trying to answer in this video. #throttlebodyspacer #boltonpower #isitworthit
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@tonebebop7656
@tonebebop7656 5 лет назад
Thanks...I just ordered six! All going into the same car. Huge gains here I come!!
@mauricehamilton404
@mauricehamilton404 4 года назад
Lol
@MK-sk2mi
@MK-sk2mi 4 года назад
That's like 200hp on spacers yo
@blake102989
@blake102989 4 года назад
Dont forgot to add stickers for 20 extra hp
@dealingdog3043
@dealingdog3043 4 года назад
Good think it has racing blue
@dannyfrog
@dannyfrog 4 года назад
You won't be able to pass a gas station without filling up. Also, tire cost because of all the power you will burn the tires off every time.
@gerald4027
@gerald4027 7 лет назад
something else. I installed one of those twirly air intake spacers and the air was spinning so fast that a black hole was formed.The whole complete car was sucked into the intake manifold.
@theparadigmshift74
@theparadigmshift74 7 лет назад
Anthony Smith hahahha
@bmckenzie313
@bmckenzie313 7 лет назад
Gerald Nordahl your really funny 😁
@officiallistengreatmuzik
@officiallistengreatmuzik 7 лет назад
Gerald Nordahl lmbo
@mchlbk
@mchlbk 7 лет назад
Did it hurt?
@bmckenzie313
@bmckenzie313 6 лет назад
Indrid Cold lol
@jessegillum7389
@jessegillum7389 7 лет назад
I had a throttle body spacer on my 98 chevy ext cab 4x4 with a 5.7 vortec 350 small block. It helped out with the eco but also gave a lil better throttle response to the motor. I had a 3" spacer the spacer is manufactured to create better fuel and air mixture into the manifold so yes this aftermarket part does help in a small way
@carlitoandsandraadventures1192
@carlitoandsandraadventures1192 3 года назад
Guys, everyone is crying that this doesn't do anything... on it's own, you're right. A spacer is part of a system (CAI, Ported Throttle Body, Spacer, Cams, Headers, Performance Muffler, Tune). This guy has most/all those things, so for him it works, yes. If your car is all stock, it won't.
@KennethSettles
@KennethSettles 7 лет назад
great video, thanks for sharing information about throttle body spacers.
@doctajuice
@doctajuice 8 лет назад
I'm pretty sure the idea behind a tbs is that it increases the volume of air inside the intake manifold, which creates a stronger vacuum pulling air into the throttle body. What this does is that it tricks the mass airflow sensor into thinking there's more air coming in than there actually is, which forces the ecu to adjust accordingly. This is where your power gain comes from. I doubt it will improve your fuel economy though
@wpwbigcheese3795
@wpwbigcheese3795 Год назад
how about no , 100% wrong
@kyore789
@kyore789 5 лет назад
6:54 Conclusion.
@elijahcormier5239
@elijahcormier5239 4 года назад
Kyore Thanks bro!
@stevemiller2052
@stevemiller2052 4 года назад
What about in conjunction with intake and other bolt on mods?
@TRICKYBYRD
@TRICKYBYRD 4 года назад
🙏
@codylewis2316
@codylewis2316 4 года назад
Not the hero we needed but the hero we deserved 💪🏼
@Edubbcamaraman
@Edubbcamaraman 4 года назад
Good man
@HammyOneTwo
@HammyOneTwo 7 лет назад
Yeah but the aluminium blue color makes your engine bay look nice.
@benrichard5667
@benrichard5667 7 лет назад
landen hamilton logic of a ricer
@HammyOneTwo
@HammyOneTwo 7 лет назад
I'm just fucking around chill
@trevorjohnson4965
@trevorjohnson4965 7 лет назад
ben richard dumbass your saying someone who actually tunes is a ricer? fuck off
@adamJeepstuff
@adamJeepstuff 7 лет назад
landen hamilton it does
@aaronjones4675
@aaronjones4675 7 лет назад
Trevor Johnson nb
@aaronbrown7218
@aaronbrown7218 4 года назад
The way I see it, it is one small component of a bigger system. So no single thing is going to make a huge difference. Just like saving pennies, eventually the benefits add up.
@gerald4027
@gerald4027 4 года назад
You can get another one 200 years from now .
@steveschaffer3564
@steveschaffer3564 5 лет назад
I installed a Helix power tower throttle body spacer on my 99 Blazer 4.3L Vortec V6 and I promise it makes a BIG difference. I would recommend at least a K&N filter with it. I also cut the small short inlet pipe to allow more air in the filter box. I upgraded to a CAI on mine so it helps but CAI really don't do much but allow more air flow in. I've also installed headers on mine with some improvement.
@Z71Ranger
@Z71Ranger 7 лет назад
Oh thank you. I added this spacer to my car and now it will lift the front wheels of the ground.
@RamonNunezRey
@RamonNunezRey 4 года назад
LOL
@Meatwad.Baggins
@Meatwad.Baggins 3 года назад
Your car: FWD
@Meatwad.Baggins
@Meatwad.Baggins 3 года назад
@@jumpercable20 Nice save 😎👍
@leopardcubpupkryky6940
@leopardcubpupkryky6940 3 года назад
Moron
@scorpioknight4
@scorpioknight4 3 года назад
FWD 😂
@chrispeters7304
@chrispeters7304 2 года назад
Thanks for your informative thorough video. Was ready to buy spacer and install on my 3.6 Jeep Wrangler. Like you I have a cold air intake and performance exhaust system. Which made my Jeep considerably faster... But being an old Gearhead as I am, We always want more POWER.. Great video.. Thanks from Chris
@ryangehrke8019
@ryangehrke8019 5 лет назад
Sometimes the seat of your pants feel is just fine and I appreciate your take on this product. My only issue is people calling SUV's and crossovers "trucks."
@hemi5.7villain
@hemi5.7villain 2 года назад
@Beaf Supreme as long as it gets you from point A to z
@chuckem8582
@chuckem8582 8 лет назад
As previously mentioned, on old Carb cars the TBS works great and give real results. On a Fuel Injected system its practically useless. You're better off with a good quality "Cold Air Intake" and some plugs/wires. For big performance gains you'll need to focus on the internals of the engine.
@bigne11y
@bigne11y 8 лет назад
Thanks for the info! Keep up the good work buddy.
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 6 лет назад
I had one of these dolls pictures on my 2003 Dodge Dakota with a cold air intake and a muffler. it sounded freakin sweet shifting gears with the 5-speed!
@alexgreen6966
@alexgreen6966 8 лет назад
I would do a tune before coming to a conclusion, anyways nice video man subbed!
@Jesusis_theway
@Jesusis_theway 3 года назад
Ya. I like numbers. A visual on what changes and how much.
@pszresonation
@pszresonation 8 лет назад
From what I have researched on it seems the style of the intake manifold can affect the gains or no gains you could get. That and other types of mods might be the main reason there is such gap on yes and no gains along with natural factors(humidity,temp ect). I can not for the life of me remember the name of the fluid effect but generally you have 2 streams, the inner and outer. The inner stream is where most of the volume comes from and the outer is the slower moving volume. What this device mimics and tries to do is alter the outer stream flow pattern. What this allows is the inner air to move around a corner more efficiently. As any kink or bend in flow direction will restrict the flow to a certain point. If your intake manifold has no bend or curve after the throttle body you may not see any difference as the air flow has no restriction other than the surface itself. Generally, polishing and removing any casting marks will lessen any restriction the surface gives to the flowing air before the point of fuel mixture. Some say this swirling effect allows the F/A to mix better, but I highly doubt that, not in a non carbed fuel injection. The effect created behind the TB is lost and/or diminished greatly as soon as it enters the main part of the manifold, plus fuel is added further down the line in injection systems not at the throttle body. If there is any increase to mix it would be minimal in my opinion. I would like to note that with a carburetor or EFI carbs will benefit from a tb spacer as it gives more time for the air and fuel to mix. I have theorized that if you create this same effect again at the top of the intake runners you could see a noticeable difference. How much of a bend and the length of the runner would probably affect this greatly along with the amount of air you can agitate without restricting air flow. How to go about this is another matter. A lot of intakes do not allow access to the top of the runners. There is generally enough room to polish and port match them, but you are generally out of luck to attempt this unless you have the ability to cut the manifold open and weld it back together or it is accessible by a removable panel. Luckily on my car the upper intake is in two parts and gives direct access to the top of the runners. I am searching for a junk yard upper and lower and I am going to attempt to create this effect on the runners along with port matching, removing casting marks and polishing. There is more than enough meat on the runners to engrave a swirling pattern in them. Unfortunately I do not have the funds to be able to pay to have several tunes and dyno runs along the way to test each thing I do to the intake. I can only test the final tune and dyno against known numbers with the same mods (aside what I do to the runners). I am no mechanical engineer nor a master in fluid dynamics. So if anyone reading this can correct me or give me tips to go in the right direction let me know.
@dakotapeek6904
@dakotapeek6904 5 лет назад
Would have liked to see the result numbers lol. 3 year comment I know I know.
@Rhino011
@Rhino011 6 лет назад
I have a jet spacer for my 2003 GMC envoy 4.2,but i used it for installation of nos jets on the spacer worked perfect.
@kristopher2651
@kristopher2651 8 лет назад
Fair and balanced review! Thanks!
@Fix-It-Jeff
@Fix-It-Jeff 7 лет назад
I've used a few of these in the past, on fuel injected vehicles, and I've noticed it makes more of a difference with inline engines. and they also become more responsive over time as the computer 'relearns' itself. i got better mpg's and better low end torque. just my experience tho.
@SystemCrasher113
@SystemCrasher113 Год назад
You can just reset the computer by disconnecting the battery terminal for a day and then when you start it back up again just use more throttle the first couple of days and the computer registers those figures.
@austinrausch9836
@austinrausch9836 7 лет назад
Great input. I was hoping for a dyno comparison but if your butt dyno only feels marginal throttle response increase, it's likely an actual dyno run would show the same. Like so many "cheap" performance parts throttle body spacers are for those who are truly trying to squeeze every last pony out of their motor. Not really intended for the bolt-on crowd. Good info., thanks for sharing.
@homebuiltshop
@homebuiltshop 7 лет назад
+Austin Rausch thank you
@IntegraDIY
@IntegraDIY 7 лет назад
Austin Rausch its a placebo effect.. It feels more responsive because it's a shiney new part, and it cost money. Until actual dyno charts are put up, we will not know the gain, if any.
@howtowin.facts.7247
@howtowin.facts.7247 7 лет назад
+Integra DIY haha exactly
@richardsaucedo6306
@richardsaucedo6306 4 года назад
I put on on my f350 v12 and I got an extra 50mpg to the tank. Helped out alot considering i had a 6inch lift and 33in tires.
@yourfavoritelawnguy2722
@yourfavoritelawnguy2722 7 лет назад
Had a TBS on my 03 gmc sierra 5.3l vortec and i loved mine, it did make a whistle noise that was very audible, i liked it though, between the Aftermarket intake system making a audible sucking noise mixed with a whistle from the TBS it gave the motor a more performance built sound to it, it did seem to add maybe 1mpg on the truck, but its a cheap little part to help improve throttle response if you buy the spacer kits that actually are grooved like a gun barrel so it works to "speed up" the induction and increases the total air took in while making it mix with the fuel more rapidly and easier. If your spacer is a block of metal, its wrong, if your CIA is not in a box that is ported to take in air from the outer edge of the engine bay you have a hot air intake not a cold air intake. my 5.3l vortec had an AFE CIA with my TBS (forgot brand) and i ran a bullydog tripple gt tuner on it and i pulled away from other gas burners off the line and held it, when i had my 40l6e built by Jasper that had a heavy shift kit, 16 kevlar clutches instead of the stock like 4-6 it has, high volume oil capacity and high fluid flow kit with trans cooler, better valve body and planetary gear, it cost me around $4,000 total in labor and parts using my own Core, it became a shit show when racing, walking them constantly. IF your gonnna buy parts BUY CORRECT AND QUALITY
@constitutionalpiper
@constitutionalpiper 7 лет назад
on a 2000 4cyl wrangler thats grossly underpowered it was a major improvement
@davidwilliams3404
@davidwilliams3404 7 лет назад
The better option but still a small gain would be ditch the spacer and put a thermal gasket in it's place. It will help reduce intake temps which will give a small amount of power. In my opinion getting the spacer by itself is just making your intake even longer. Plus a thermal gasket that size is around 20-30 instead of paying 70+ for the spacer that does nothing
@casperhoss2952
@casperhoss2952 2 года назад
Great video, thanks for sharing. Keep up the great work.
@ScrewballMcAdams
@ScrewballMcAdams 7 лет назад
Enjoyed the video. I really liked your presentation.
@nickestes1839
@nickestes1839 5 лет назад
For this product to work, one of these two things would need to happen. 1. It would have to increase the volume of air feeding the engine at any given moment. 2. It would have to increase the air velocity during a part of the rpm range or throughout the whole rpm range. This product can not do either of those things, from an engineering standpoint. I dont care what you think you feel. It just isnt possible. Any felt increase in power is purely placebo.
@K33B
@K33B 4 года назад
It worked on my 05 3.5 L Tacoma 2WD. Robbed my top end speed but improved low end torque and acceleration. I also had it Unichipped with a Volant CAI, NGK Iridium plugs, magnaflow exhaust. I got it down to 0-60 in 7.06 seconds but I Rolled it 7 times haha. I miss my Taco.
@homebuiltshop
@homebuiltshop 4 года назад
7 times. WOW! I'm glad you're ok.
@applicationoriental6381
@applicationoriental6381 6 лет назад
Thanks for the video. A longer pcv tube which generates more volume at the throttle, should produce the same effect.
@stevenhenderson1198
@stevenhenderson1198 4 года назад
TB spacer helped move my TB to a more desired location. That's about it though. Just pulled it forward a bit.
@Floordford
@Floordford 7 лет назад
Basically it makes your intake manifold volume greater and puts the throttle body further away from the heads. The air now has to travel further to get into the head. It may just essentially take away horsepower on the top end to give you torque on the bottom end. The difference may be 1-2 ft tq.
@MrKingdavis13
@MrKingdavis13 7 лет назад
I noticed a great improvement on my lifted Jeep Wrangler with the 4.0 inline 6 and 5 speed manual transmission because the engine struggled to spin the 33's at highway speeds in 5th gear without the spacer but after installing it I was able to use 5th gear and that made a huge jump in mpg. I also had many other upgrades on that Jeep as well including K&N air filter, Flowmaster exhaust and other similar bolt on accessories as well so I am sure those were a factor as well. Good luck
@s13blaze
@s13blaze Год назад
Gotta do the 12 hole injectors from ksuspension too makes big difference
@AllenMaestas
@AllenMaestas 5 лет назад
Good video Jeff, I like your honesty.
@stanleystalvey6185
@stanleystalvey6185 8 лет назад
Nice presentation, excellent commentary and good job on your mechanic skills...
@Eveatlv
@Eveatlv 7 лет назад
You should have try the Tornado, that improves fuel MPG from 0 MPG to 00.0 MPG, or better yet Slick 50 which reduces friction by not starting car or truck,......best vehicle I ever own that is good in fuel mileage, economical, low cost (no add ons) very low maintenance and environmental friendly is ........
@kevinkinney5445
@kevinkinney5445 3 года назад
Lol
@SuperUniverse3
@SuperUniverse3 6 лет назад
Installed one on my 2017 GMC Sierra. Noticed minimal response to acceleration and lighter throttle feel. Overall, truck feels it goes with less effort. This combined with CAI, muffler delete and a chip tune.
@fishman80
@fishman80 4 месяца назад
You’re not gonna see any difference on a GDI engine. If you think you do, it’s 100% placebo.
@Mojomatazz
@Mojomatazz 8 лет назад
This was very helpful. thanks!
@raymorley8241
@raymorley8241 4 года назад
I had a 1996 Grand Cherokee 4.0 6 cyl inline and it always had issues pulling our tent trailer. I installed a short ram intake and a throttle body spacer and after that pulling the trailer was not a problem.
@turbob84
@turbob84 4 года назад
I stopped taking the video seriously when he pointed his "cold air intake" located in the engine bay LOL
@Dangerous_Drivers_of_CA
@Dangerous_Drivers_of_CA 8 лет назад
You could also remove the screen from the front of your MAF sensor. Then take all the slack out of your throttle cable, and you will see a pretty good difference. I dont know if you have a throttle body butterfly restrictor, my 4.3 chevy v6 had one. I removed that as well, and my Astro van was a little quicker than normal. Then it got stolen, never got it back.
@urbanpeltier1622
@urbanpeltier1622 2 года назад
Faster than gone
@Yanudibraim7111
@Yanudibraim7111 11 месяцев назад
What's the advantages of removing maf front screen?
@BlueOvals24
@BlueOvals24 7 лет назад
I'm so glad I have an actual auto instructor to ask if this works, because this video didn't explain much at all
@brandondeel3567
@brandondeel3567 8 лет назад
I had a 2000 gmc Sonoma with the 2.2l that I polished the throttle body, installed spacer, k&n drop in filter and modded the air box and I noticed a increase in power and mpg. the best mod I did to increase power and economy was removing the mechanical crank fan and installing electric fans. with all that done, I was getting 28mpg which is substantial compared to 23mpg average when I first got it! imo all those mods were worth it..
@anthonymacneil2279
@anthonymacneil2279 8 лет назад
Yes there's a nice aggressive tone on mine as well under wide open throttle. The Bullydog Platinum GT just enhanced that with even better throttle response on the premium tune but didn't see any difference in MPG yet
@cgberz
@cgberz 6 лет назад
Have you considered using multiple spacers? I think that could be a fun before and after with some repeatable, measurable testing...
@kelkrst3129
@kelkrst3129 8 лет назад
jus wat i needed to know! thanks brotha
@cliffjones374
@cliffjones374 7 лет назад
I put one on my '89 chevy 1ton and mpg went from 10mpg to 12 mpg. So in my experience it did help a little.
@darinr9424
@darinr9424 4 года назад
Yours was a tbi injected engine which is a wet flow setup. A spacer will help just like a carb spacer would. On a dryflo ls engine. It's snake oil/junk/doesn't work period.
@dalemorigeau
@dalemorigeau 5 лет назад
Put one on my 95 ZJ. I can say that I felt a good improvement. I don't have any numbers or any of that. Just saying that for me it worked and also got a little better gas mileage.
@dakotagist7526
@dakotagist7526 4 года назад
Same with my 92 XJ
@bryan50rogers
@bryan50rogers 7 лет назад
I work in R&D/Tech support for BBK and have tested many different throttlebody spacer's on many different late-model V8 applications. None of them have added even one horsepower and a few of them on Mopar applications have dropped up to 4 hp. These are real world controlled dyno tests. It's a bit of a shame really. These things are so easy to make with all of our capabilities but we can't and won't make them because they don't do anything for the customer. They're great for making money but we won't release anything that doesn't make real rear wheel horsepower. In some cases where our throttlebody is larger than the intake manifold's inlet, we do include a spacer that helps adapt the two different sizes with a smith transition but they are not standalone throttlebody spacers. Keep in mind that my comment doesn't apply to carbed motors. Only late model EFI.
@homebuiltshop
@homebuiltshop 7 лет назад
+Bryan Rogers thanks for your feedback. I'm thinking about removing it to see if I notice any difference now that it's been on awhile.
@MichelLinschoten
@MichelLinschoten 6 лет назад
It's more for carbureted engines.... the reason why it works there is because you add volume (air) and you place the carb up higher away from the heat source and gets cooler air which translates in more HP (nothing crazy couple tops). It does not really work with cars that have fuel injection as the ECU is doing all the work. I got both this is how i know
@ddc316
@ddc316 6 лет назад
Did you happen to ever get around to removing it and seeing if the spacer was doing anything for you?
@chadchad1983
@chadchad1983 5 лет назад
But do they do anything for gas mileage?
@JD-iu3vi
@JD-iu3vi 5 лет назад
I think these worked on carb. engines somewhat. The only way to modify performance on an EFI is to modify the computer's programming.
@Tain950
@Tain950 6 лет назад
Thanks for making this video it was great.
@MrCxiong116
@MrCxiong116 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the review, nice to know it made a little difference. I plan on an adapter for a larger throttle body. Should gain more than just throwing on a spacer with stock size throttle body.
@delano62
@delano62 7 лет назад
I machined my own a few years back. It did nothing that I could tell. It was fun making it though. I even sold it to a guy for 20 bucks.
@shakethaspot6301
@shakethaspot6301 4 года назад
delano62 WIN✌🏽🔰
@213funnyp
@213funnyp 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the cheap price, i ended up mass producing it and ended up w a couple mil.
@robertmeyers9313
@robertmeyers9313 4 года назад
Glad to see a proper attempt to quantify the benefits of the spacer. I was hoping for more test results, more than just seat of the pants.
@jhonviel7381
@jhonviel7381 3 года назад
you know how much car guys love magical bolt on hp gains with out any data!
@ashtonhironaka2474
@ashtonhironaka2474 8 лет назад
Thanks for doing this experiment. much appreciated!
@Isa1ahL33
@Isa1ahL33 2 года назад
I had a Throttle Body Spacer in my Genesis Coupe 3.8 with a side port. It was perfect for injecting Seafoam intake valve cleaner.
@topgun779
@topgun779 5 лет назад
Its more or less just an added part you would put on a build for some more results ex: you have a 4" intake w/ a performance intake manifold, bigger TB, and a good engineered TB spacer can have results to help the other mods for better airflox. You adding it to your stock air box w/ filter lol w/ nothing else is not worth it. Upgrading even a better intake system and a TB spacer should help out just in itself
@americanpatriot3344
@americanpatriot3344 7 лет назад
Plus, I would go to car meets & shows & always got curious commenters who would notice the TB-Spacer bolt-on & liked how it looked & asked me if it made a difference.
@UntameableVeteran
@UntameableVeteran 4 года назад
I have one on my truck from American trucks.com. I have a whistle but it’s nice, have cold air intake and full exhaust. Truck is a Silverado 4.8 with headers
@gordonliddy9418
@gordonliddy9418 8 лет назад
Dyno numbers before and after please
@elili8016
@elili8016 8 лет назад
some RU-vid did a dyno run and it's little improvement. about 3 more hp and 7 torqe. he's right about little improvement
@ihateliberals518
@ihateliberals518 8 лет назад
what car was the test done on?
@ihateliberals518
@ihateliberals518 7 лет назад
NutriFIT nutritie si fitnes I highly doubt there was even a 3 hp improvement. the reason is, when people first started using this upgrade, it was on carb engines mounted in a vertical fashion. this increased the distance from the carb, to the intake runners, creating a "tunnel ram effect". this is simply not possible with a horizontally mounted throttle body
@Nothingtoya
@Nothingtoya 7 лет назад
+no body you hit it on the head. With a carb, you have both fuel and air flowing thru a spacer. This is just air, it did nothing, people want to feel a difference, that why later he decided it's not worth it.
@ihateliberals518
@ihateliberals518 7 лет назад
Joshua Barton yup, and you can't convince many, if not most of these people. too many think the fast and furious is actually based in fact...lol
@johnnyturbo8460
@johnnyturbo8460 5 лет назад
In the beginning of this video he says " i actually felt a difference I'm surprised "... at the end of the video " is it worth it, no not really" lol MY WORD this is what you call CLICK BAIT
@Lkom24
@Lkom24 6 лет назад
Using one currently with my skunk2 CAI. Nice little gain on 2014 SI coupe
@RDCards
@RDCards 8 лет назад
Great review thanks for sharing
@biggiebiggs5302
@biggiebiggs5302 8 лет назад
All you people are bashing throttle body spacers because it only helps during low/mid end rpms. Us people with real trucks (not 6 cylinder suvs) look for that kind of stuff, because it takes a lot of power for our engines too move heavy loads. Therefore, every little bit counts in the low/mid end
@steppinit6901
@steppinit6901 7 лет назад
"Real trucks(not 6 cyl or suv)" might be the douchiest comment ive read yet
@YoteNationest
@YoteNationest 7 лет назад
biggie biggs Oh come on now, im into it for the same kinda purpose, my 4.2 as my derby car hauler and all, and being an i6 twin cam or not, seek out that lower end lug myself.
@ulicsc.5103
@ulicsc.5103 5 лет назад
I have to say that those 4.2 triailblazers pull! Great experience pulling 30ft Rv trailer.
@rustynuggets
@rustynuggets 7 лет назад
The only way I can see this making a difference is by increasing the overall plenum volume and making slightly more air available to the runners. Longer intake runners will improve low end response and torque. The extra volume is so minor that the money could be saved and spent on a mod that would provide proven gains. the reality is that the design of the entire intake system varies so much between engines that simply adding a spacer like that may hold better gains for some and none for others simply due to design of other parts negating the intended effect of the spacer.
@dylnbxtr
@dylnbxtr 7 лет назад
rustynuggets considerinf that runners are only really with carbs that are vertical. on a horizontal, it's negligible.
@rustynuggets
@rustynuggets 7 лет назад
Dylan Baxter well that's just not true.
@zososldier
@zososldier 7 лет назад
Yeah, not true at all. runner length is definitely a tunable thing for cars regardless of position.
@JamezzyM
@JamezzyM 7 лет назад
rustynuggets also those spacers are rifled so that the air spins. Guns have rifled barrels to improve performance, so ai can see why these may work
@GModBMXer
@GModBMXer 7 лет назад
rustynuggets Rusty You are making a smaller space for the air. Google "How does air velocity affects torque?"
@oscarcarrillo5809
@oscarcarrillo5809 8 лет назад
Hey, thanks mann. I aways wondered about that. now I'm getting one for my 2014 silverado 5.3l
@cliffjumper1984
@cliffjumper1984 5 лет назад
Guess it all depends on the car too. 2 different cars, from different manufactures are gonna perform different. Sometimes you think you are going faster when you install something too. That's some much in the tuner community. I like how you did a quick after drive video. Then a "after a week" video. I got one for my neon...but also an intake manifold spacer from neongoodies. The DOHC first gen neon has a poor air flow, which helps it some. Have yet to install it tho.
@joshuavega6692
@joshuavega6692 4 года назад
Omg you guys 3 extra horse power is killin em on the drag strip
@largeuzivert718
@largeuzivert718 3 года назад
Horsepower is horsepower, idk what the issue is 🤷‍♂️
@dasllamas
@dasllamas 8 лет назад
There is a video posted titled "par Honda Accord - throttle body spacer dyno" this is a before and after dyno on a fuel injected Honda Accord. Results WOT were 3-4 horsepower and 7-8 ft lbs torque. He also tested mid range power on the dyno and made an overall 5 hp / 5 ft lbs of torque. That makes it at best (on the Honda) $20-$25 per pony. Now the debate is that output on a dyno can vary. Was the slight gain from the tbs or was it an environmental factor like temperature humidity ect.
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 6 лет назад
dasllamas, I agree with your thoughts on how Darkness can vary each pool. Hard to say at the spacer made a difference but they do sound really awesome with that whistle sound!
@Khe247
@Khe247 6 лет назад
dasllamas do you have a Throttle Body Spacer on your Charger?
@91C4NVA
@91C4NVA 6 лет назад
What ever, if their was a hp gain, it certainly wasn't from a throttle body spacer.
@billblackeye
@billblackeye 5 лет назад
Tell me a reason why honda didn't put it by the factory?
@dylanhyde2668
@dylanhyde2668 5 лет назад
Billblackeye there are many parts that are better for your car. They do It because of price. Production cars are literally done so if they can save a dollar a car they will because after they sell a million cars they saved a million dollars.
@danr5105
@danr5105 7 лет назад
The "start it up and see what happens" activity can get exciting. Way back in the mid 80's I was working at a BMW Dealer. For some reason I had to pull off the air inlet to the throttle body (733i). It was an easy job and I decided to go to the restroom before pulling the car out. While in the restroom I here all this commotion in the shop,out I go. I find that the Service Advisor decided to pull the car out for me,wrong. I had put one of the big clamps on up side down and it prevented the throttle from closing, in fact it held it full open. Close call but we all went home that day.
@homebuiltshop
@homebuiltshop 7 лет назад
+Dan R wow. Glad it all worked out OK.
@tomthum5128
@tomthum5128 2 года назад
I saw 1 put on a Dino, it got onehalf horsepower and 8' pounds of torque but it's nothing you'll notice but when you add it all up with the rest it all adds up
@shannonscott5788
@shannonscott5788 4 года назад
I have a deer Whistler on front of my grill.
@TheGarebear2.0
@TheGarebear2.0 8 лет назад
I think it all depends on the car. I tried one on my 4.2 Trailblazer and it did nothing. In fact, I seemed to lose fuel economy. I also have a dual catback exhaust and cold air intake, so a spacer may not have much effect. I also seem to have better throttle response without it. All in all, spacers aren't going to do much performance wise.
@pereaelguapo
@pereaelguapo 7 лет назад
i have 2007 4runner V6 and i installed a air raid throttle body spacer along with my K&N cold air intake and i love my spacer not because the performance but because it spins the air and sounds like a turbo diesel, no so loud like a real one but close.
@jahcousteauu_STAYinSHAPE
@jahcousteauu_STAYinSHAPE Год назад
I have the same truck and im about to order the same part, thank you. Im really tryin to bolt on and do as much as I can with my 4.2L I need more power
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 7 лет назад
As A Auto Diesel Mech 35 years I have watch people put cold air intakes and spacers all kinds of junk and a lot of them do nothing to increase power.Cold air Intakes are the biggest joke Unless you are pulling the air out of a Ram air Duct through the hood and force feeding a large Volume of cool air there will be a lose of power.For all those that are in question I recommend that you do this. Ask to see a Dyno test on the vehicle you are planning to modify not any other vehicle but the car you are making the modification to.Also you want Before and after tests of any performace part under the same exact conditions including air intake temperature.This is one of the first steps for tuning a car.Next have your car dyno tested for a base line. Then when you are done with your changes have your car dyno tested and tuned if needed this will confirm you gain anything.This video is in no way proving this spacer works.Also no word of mouth even from trusted friends THE DYNO DOES NOT LIE.
@DeFreshS10
@DeFreshS10 7 лет назад
I would disagree on most cold air intakes... Technically most aren't "cold air" because they sit in the engine bay OPEN to the heat, but SOME do come with heat shields and are mounted in bumpers etc. You do get an increase in HP and Torque because the stock (for most) are highly restrictive. Speaking from experience, my S10 had a box with a flat filter that was fed by a 3" opening into the box. I changed it to an AEM cold air intake and my throttle response and torque went up noticeably. No dyno numbers because I don't have that kind of time. But it does work.
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 7 лет назад
DeFreshS10 First let me say I not trying to offend you but the increase in power that you think you felt is not detectable by any human being you would need a min of 50 HP before you would be able to notice a change .A 5-25 HP INCREASE can only be measured by a dyno or running down a track with times AND THE KEY IS SAME EXACT CONDITIONS.What I will say if you notice any change in your vehicle it would be in fuel economy if you were checking it from the beginning.So with This said it would of been mainly from going from a paper air filter to a cotton air filter this is were you increase of power would come from.As for cold air tubing this is a restriction by design Any vehicle pulls a given CUBIC FOOT A MINUTE (CFM) so Cold air induction has two flaws,First being in order to get the coolest air into the engine means we have to go out in front of the radiator.So when we make just one 90 deg bend we need to 6 feet of straight tubing to regain laminar flow.So now we move to the short design which means our air intake is right next to the radiator and we pick up the heat from under the hood.I prefer a ram air system into a short run the benefits I pick up is I get a pressure increase as the vehicle accelerates. second if I am racing there old school tricks to cool that air down further and correct the flow of air.Also I do not pick up ambient heat from the radiator or engine compartment as a ram air is truly sealed.What are your thoughts.
@DeFreshS10
@DeFreshS10 7 лет назад
I would PATENTLY disagree with your claim of not being able to "feel" anything under 50HP. My stock motor has ~170 HP... and that a 10hp gain would be a 6% gain in power. Not only that, you INCREASE the power at low end RPM range. Now a CAI on a motor with ~250+ would be insignificant and you most likely wouldn't feel it. *"What I will say if you notice any change in your vehicle it would be in fuel economy if you were checking it from the beginning"* yes. there was an Increase in MPG, though only about 1.5 or so. But I could still feel the difference in low end power. The amount of air going into the engine is measured. If your ECU recognized more air, it could dump more fuel (provided you have a tune). My intake pipe was actually larger than stock and longer (regaining laminar flow) so CFM increases.
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 7 лет назад
DeFreshS10 DeFreshS10 Again I would disagree with even a on any engine in horsepower gains not even the pros can feel a 10 HP gain.The only way to see a increase is through time.If you take a 10 hp engine and loaded it down until it stalled you would see that it is a small amount of power. Now if you are talking B/TORQUE Then you might just might feel a difference.As far as a longer larger CAI TUBE you lose efficiency and laminar flow as there tends to be more bends in the pipe.I have had this debate with others and like I said if all things be equal the proof is on the dyno.I deal with engineers from JOHNSON MATTHEY,CCC , CUMMINS, GM FORD ETC ALL telling us how great there equipment is yntil we prove or dis prove it on a Class 8 emmission laboratory DYNOMETER.
@DeFreshS10
@DeFreshS10 7 лет назад
peak HP can be the exact same for both stock and CAI engines, yet you can still feel a difference. Can you tell me why?
@BigHappysPlace
@BigHappysPlace 8 лет назад
this is something you would want to add when going with a larger TB. the longer the spacer the more improvement you will get, Up to a certain point. Longer runners often yield better bottom end power. this is all you are doing here is adding a little bit more to the intake runners.
@amishdinkledork
@amishdinkledork 7 лет назад
it's obvious that you read too many tuner magazines and have not spent enough time turning wrenches..
@BigHappysPlace
@BigHappysPlace 7 лет назад
+David Soule damn that was funny...
@karlboyer9591
@karlboyer9591 7 лет назад
Thanks I found out that it was because I was using a pedal commander with the spacer and they weren't working well together so I decided to remove the spacer and that solved the problem.
@homebuiltshop
@homebuiltshop 7 лет назад
+Karl Boyer glad you figured it out. Does the pedal commander work well?
@karlboyer9591
@karlboyer9591 7 лет назад
The pedal commander is awesome it doesn't increase HP but it makes you feel like it does. It gives your car an incredible amount of boost, at some levels it's a bit much. But I really enjoy being in control. I just bought a new throttle body for my 2015 ecoboost base model mustang and with the pedal commander and all of the mods, I think I am just about ready to give the 5.0 mustangs a run for there money lol. I think the space would have great if I didn't include anything else to increase throttle response.
@DonXXXPrince
@DonXXXPrince 7 лет назад
great video thanks for the info
@1234zcrom
@1234zcrom 7 лет назад
Why is there a resonator in a performance vid?
@VenomWorks
@VenomWorks 3 года назад
Because there's no performance increases by taking off the resonator....believe it or not.
@robertrobinson5001
@robertrobinson5001 8 лет назад
Thanks for the video Jeff. I have an '06 Envoy with a 4.2L. I'm trying to find the right combo of parts to get a lot better performance and of course, better gas mileage. I was looking at the Taylor Cable Helix Power Tower PLUS Throttle Body Spacer. It's a little pricey at $115, but with an AeroTurbine muffler (which I know works) since I already have 3" pipes, a decent cold air kit, and a Jet Stage II Power Module, I think I'm going to be in pretty good shape. What are your thoughts on this combo??? What are your thoughts on boring the throttle body?
@homebuiltshop
@homebuiltshop 8 лет назад
+Robert Robinson I'm not familiar with boring the throttle body so I can't offer any insight on that. If you have good experiences with that muffler then you should be OK. I recommend the K&N cold air kit.
@homebuiltshop
@homebuiltshop 8 лет назад
+Robert Robinson I'm not familiar with boring the throttle body so I can't offer any insight on that. If you have good experiences with that muffler then you should be OK. I recommend the K&N cold air kit.
@homebuiltshop
@homebuiltshop 8 лет назад
+Robert Robinson I'm not familiar with boring the throttle body so I can't offer any insight on that. If you have good experiences with that muffler then you should be OK. I recommend the K&N cold air kit.
@SlikLizrd
@SlikLizrd Год назад
Well, Bob, I have bought, installed, and tested the Taylor "Power Tower" and also a "Power Module", and BOTH of them are over-priced and completely worthless on my Port-type, Fuel Injected, V-8 engine. Those "power modules" and high-performance "chips" are a total SCAM -- there is NO CHIP inside, just a small resistor that tricks the computer into thinking that the intake air is colder than it actually is, so it adds more fuel. It's a dumb-ass idea, because your computer adjusts the Air/Fuel ratio , according to the signals from the O2 sensors. Clever advertising and a lack of oversight allows companies to exaggerate their claims, or even LIE to their potential customers -- it's capitalism - the American way !!
@Jerry1951
@Jerry1951 4 года назад
More Bottom End is a Plus Have Hummer H3 Cold air 3 inch all the way back with Delta 50 and runs Great..
@jorgecarrizalesjr6589
@jorgecarrizalesjr6589 4 года назад
Spacers help getting air more efficient to the vehicle...might provide as much horse power as you may think but IT WILL help in MPG. Ypu can see this in vehicles that have digital MPG indicators.
@darktacoyt3807
@darktacoyt3807 3 года назад
Why don’t manufacturers just make their tb “longer” if it really works. Because it’s a waste
@mikaerler9692
@mikaerler9692 2 года назад
They make the intake shorter or longer for different purposes, both changes the Charakteristik of hp and torgue thats why some have a changeable intake like Dodge 392 engines
@you956486
@you956486 8 лет назад
next you should do are twin turbos worth it or not
@homebuiltshop
@homebuiltshop 8 лет назад
Ha, that would be good.
@MannyFresh1x
@MannyFresh1x 7 лет назад
Bro you need a fucking life....
@chrissanjose5928
@chrissanjose5928 7 лет назад
Anthony Smith Jim
@orgasmingmcnuggets9505
@orgasmingmcnuggets9505 7 лет назад
Depends, twins turbs spool faster, but requires more maintenance, useless for low boost cars, stick with the singles.
@Cactus-rg1ip
@Cactus-rg1ip 2 года назад
I have a 2003 Ram 1500 with a 4.7 and just put on a K&N CAI. Gonna be putting the air raid spacer on it as well. So Hopefully I'll see some difference. Atm the CAI has changed the sound of the engine and my gas has improved over the week.
@donsoprano3335
@donsoprano3335 6 лет назад
Great vid and 👕
@TheUpandoveragain
@TheUpandoveragain 8 лет назад
Why use the resonator ? Just connect the air filter direct to the throttle body ?
@punisher2704
@punisher2704 7 лет назад
there you go, lmao
@dustinshort6207
@dustinshort6207 7 лет назад
TheUpandoveragain that might actually add power unlike this added wheight.
@kingdaniel3519
@kingdaniel3519 7 лет назад
I was thinking the same. Why bother with an aftermarket intake if you keep that restrictive resonator.
@csheppard93
@csheppard93 6 лет назад
What people don't understand is that spacers were designed for throttle bodies that have injectors not dry throttle bodies where the engine has a injector for each cylinder.
@carsmusicandclothing7066
@carsmusicandclothing7066 6 лет назад
Chris Sheppard never knew this. Didnt even know these spacers existed. Only the ones used for NOS kits
@tylerphelps4868
@tylerphelps4868 8 лет назад
All it really does is increase the DISTANCE the air travels to get into the engine and creates a slight restriction in airflow. By doing this though, you increase air velocity so at low rpm you might gain some slight low end tq but it is quickly negated as the rpms rise and actually hurts horsepower because now the air is traveling farther and is more restricted.
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 6 лет назад
Tyler Phelps 🤔🤔🤔
@jaypyrohoff7926
@jaypyrohoff7926 5 лет назад
Or vise versa
@WhoThisGuy515
@WhoThisGuy515 5 лет назад
This is kinda wrong, the spacer would increase the plenum behind the TB area there for the "restriction" wouldn't be an issue since these engines don't consume the plenum area that quick (which is where the cylinder is directly pulling air from). You also wouldn't see any more low end torque but rather an increase in throttle response because the air would be moving from the tb to the intake valve quicker. Which is the take away from this, power gains aren't there unless the fuel flows through it too, but it will have a very slight difference in throttle response.
@jakoidtonge
@jakoidtonge Год назад
Maybe on startup the air takes a tad bit slower to reach the chamber, causing a bit slower startup, depending on the spacer size. But air is a gas, which is an unlimited source, and is consistently flowing into the combustion chamber after startup, granted the filter, throttle body, and engine is working properly. I personally don't use throttle body spacers or plenum spacers that's over a 1/4 inch, in conjunction with other parts. The only thing these parts improve when used by themselves is throttle response. Horsepower and torque gains are a hit and miss.
@corrosioncrawler5706
@corrosioncrawler5706 4 года назад
Installed a “PowerAid” (I think, it was red) TB spacer on a 2003 Wrangler w a 4.0L 6 cyl. I had 33” tires that completely robbed me of my 5th gear. I lost speed on any hill or incline and was forced to down shift to stay at 55-60 mph. After TB spacer I could maintain my speed on mild inclines and pass other cars while staying in 5th gear! Highly recommend K&N factory replacement filter with the spacer!
@losertheteacher
@losertheteacher 8 лет назад
Nice video thank you for the info
@gerald4027
@gerald4027 7 лет назад
i polished the inside of the gas tank and now the fuel flows faster so then more fuel =s more horse power.
@jbouchard4877
@jbouchard4877 7 лет назад
You really didn't put any comparison data into this test. How it feels to you means nothing really
@joedevivo4908
@joedevivo4908 6 лет назад
J Bouchard a
@davidunderwood3580
@davidunderwood3580 6 лет назад
J Bouchard it sort of does because street racing is illegal, No professional would be watching this and you don't really need it. Altering the volume of your intake is for going faster than 200mph.
@damon2692
@damon2692 6 лет назад
When you know your car, you feel the slightest thing happening to it. Guy just installed and tested it. What about you ?
@davidunderwood3580
@davidunderwood3580 6 лет назад
Daëmon I'm sure that it does something. It increases the volume of your intake. I'm sure that does something. I don't personally know what it is but I do know that unless you have a finely-tuned stroker Engine with big giant heads on it then it's not going to make that much of a difference. Several things are run on the vacuum inside of your intake. Those might be affected depending on the increase in volume. There will be no vacuum at lower speeds which means certain things in your electronics will work different. Anyting that operates based on the vacuum and your intake will do whatever it does as the vacuum approaches 0 at a sooner time and that is not necessarily a good thing but in a larger engines with more horsepower you might need that because they suck an air way faster and more air. That is the reason that you would need to expand the volume of your intake. But you probably think that you can hear noises and that it means something from an engine that was manufactured to reduce noise and a sideways and not rear wheel drive. I personally pay more attention to what kind of vibration at makes and where it is coming from because I can't hear s*** inside of my car.
@trevornicholson6526
@trevornicholson6526 6 лет назад
4 horsepower and better responses
@TokyoGaijin23
@TokyoGaijin23 7 лет назад
I have 2005 GMC ENVOY XL 4.2 I used the Airaid throttle body spacer alone with K&N cold air intake & removed both factory mufflers and installed Cherry Bomb 3" inlet outlet glasspack the longest one I could find its Bolt on flange to catalytic converter adding dual tips like on the Dodge challenger soon nxt going to buy the jet performance stage 2 chip
@mtcoiner7994
@mtcoiner7994 5 лет назад
Used a vortex spacer on 2000 impala along with exhaust upgrade and intake manifold and cold air intake. I noticed alot of power gain after those mods. I did have to get the computer re programmed to run the new parts more efficiently and also to tweak shift timing. That car was fast especially after installing a shift kit. One day the girlfriend jumped it and destroyed the front end and transmission 😤 RIP impala
@drew5992
@drew5992 Год назад
Yup women will do that! 🪦
@prototype9000
@prototype9000 7 лет назад
it works better if you throw a few bolts into your intake manifold
@JD-iu3vi
@JD-iu3vi 5 лет назад
Or you could pour a 5 lb bag of sugar into your gas tank. Sweetens the gas and makes the engine take it in faster.
@NonPremiumID
@NonPremiumID 3 года назад
3:51 in his mind he said "God dammit"!
@Goodshaft
@Goodshaft 7 лет назад
I have a 02 silverado 5.3 L , and I tried the same spacer, got one of these's for free. Tried it and what a waste of time, NO improvement at all. Then I bought a SET some MSD red blaster coils , and that made a BIG difference. For simple bolt on aftermarket part, money well worth spent.
@macpalmer6391
@macpalmer6391 7 лет назад
great video thanks for uploading
@regulatormachine2788
@regulatormachine2788 4 года назад
my thoughts: if you want to do everything, or you are already going to have everything apart, then this is something to do, BUT it's not worth it to do it on it's own....
@spacepope87
@spacepope87 3 года назад
It would be a good idea to add on when taking off your TB and cleaning it.
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