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I won't be paying for mods. If mods become solely third party DLCs for a price, then I will just play the vanilla game and major official DLCs. I'm not even sanctimonious for saying this, because back in the day, I spent most of my free time for years to make mods for a couple of different games. Got tens of thousands of downloads and won a modding competition. I also created tutorials for other modders and moderated a forum for the purpose. The modding community was great. The game studio was supportive of modding, but forbade selling mods for money. Everyone accepted that, no problem. This cemented modding as such in my mind: a hobby for those willing to spend ungodly hours in a hobby and at "worst" learn enough to make them qualified to work for a game studio. Yeah, I collaborated on one mod with another dude, who included it in his portfolio, to land a job in the industry. But times change. This is nothing but my personal opinion and stance. Younger generations might feel like modding is just another opportunity to make a buck. I was also told, back in the day, that I'm an idiot for doing all that work for free. I don't regret being an idiot at all. Maybe hobbies are a dying form of pastime?

This just makes me hate these gamers that constantly compromise on their principle and who makes excuses for the company and why I should accept it. As far as I care this is complete trash, just another attempt to see if they can bleed more money from their playerbase. Completely disrespectful corporate trash. And the american tardism that makes us citizens always go to war for the right of companies to milk their audiences doesn't help.

The modding community is the only thing holding their games up, and rather than be grateful for that fact, they’re trying to monetize it. The spirit of modding is open source. The moment you add money into the mix, it’s over.

Monetization will be the death of the modding scene in my opinion.

real question there... If that thing I wanted to add to my game, instead of staying some dude's project that's been share and enjoy freely and could be put in any customization of my game, if that become a thing officially endorse and taken by the games devs, that I have to pay for in the game, and download it that way... Isn't it just a way to make lot of "micro DLCs" without anyone noticing? they basically making DLC out of other peoples work....

I've refused to update Skyrim. I'm still running my mod list that I built up before the update and I never get my mods through Bethesda itself. I gave in and got the creation club content with the Anniversary Edition. I absolutely refuse to give them more money. Especially since we've been waiting 6 years for TES6 (TES3, 4, and 5 released with about a 5 year gap between each title).

Worst, I have purchased every game they launched since Arena. They lost a loyal customer with this call. I happily pay modders for the ones I like and use. Scummy todd and microsoft want me to pay again for doing nothing but padding their own pockets with the efforts of others. I will never purchase another bethesda game and that is that. Screw them and the horse they rode in on. We all know they will not pay the modders fairly because they deserve 100% of the proceeds as they did all of the work, not just a cut of the proceeds because todd and microsoft say so.

I like how he got Corporatism and Capitalism mixed up and the modders are the capitalist. Not Bethesda. Just because money is involved doesn't make it technically capitalism. Capitalism is figuratively speaking liberal economics, the very concept of a "Copyright" for example is against the idea of Liberal economics, let alone corporations.

Most if not all the best mods are on Nexus are pre-Anniversary or just post. A lot of them are still compatible. And if you know how to computer you can play any version of Skyrim you want.

More paid mods will be a fail overall. End of story. I’ll never fall for the microtransaction BS that so many studios try to push on customers.

They are sooo fast with creating new ways of milking money but they never bothered to fix their games. I installed Fallout 4 yesterday and needed to investigate why CTD after 5 seconds of play (weapon debris option in setting must be turned off) 2nd issue - complete major bug when playing on 240 Hz monitor - needed to download Script Extender and high FPS FIX. Setting my FOV wasn't such pain but I don't see why it has never been an option in the game menu (last 15+ years it isnt)

I would not mind paying but bethesda doesn't know what they are doing. People are doing camping mods, make a camping mod then that incorporates the ideas and make it better than the mod THEN charge for it. Give the mod author the ability to also have his creation avaliable too for download and donation. What I want and am willing to pay from bethesda is game improvements that don't break the game versions. That has monetary value. You also got a dude making a more sensible full game add on to become the Dragonborn emperor and king of skyrim. Why don't they do that? People will pay for that. Or improving characters like Lydia improved dialog follower Lydia or updating character models like Bijin or fine male face textures. All they do is ruin peoples current game run and play through that also took hours to set up.

On Steam its shows my SSE needs to update but currently running my game through Mod Organizer with zero issues

I wish they'd leave Skyrim alone. The game is 12 years old, and the modding community has been thriving regardless of monetary factors. Getting new updates means breaking older mods, and it's headache for everyone. I don't think Bethesda cares at all about modders getting paid. They just want to weasel their way into the modding community so that THEY can get paid for their fans' work.

I think Todd did this on purpose because no-one is interested in Starfield and wish he'd made TES6 instead.

Yeah, I'm not paying for mods. Heck, I have over 2000 plugins. I couldn't afford it if I wanted to. If I want to give a mod author money, I'll do it through Patreon. I'm not giving BGS any more money. If Bethesda really appreciated modders they wouldn't be taking a cut. They should give them all of the money as a thank-you for keeping the game alive. This is just a way to make money off of modders and players and will likely lead to piracy and other modders who are upset by it making mods to replace monetized ones.

It's too late. Everyone's used to microtransactions and paid mods are going to just be the reality of things for the future. I hope modders will do their best to actually provide value with paid mods, meaning good, lasting and fun content. A simple sword mod added in your crafting options for 5 bucks a pop ISN'T such a thing. If a mod isn't delivering quality, regardless of lore friendliness, but it just is the Skyrim mod equivalent of just buying a 15 dollars hat on a battle royale, it's not gonna cut it. We shall see if that's the case with the next batch of mods, imho.

If I have to pay for mods one thing is for sure - I won't be paying for any more Bethesda games.

I ain't gonna pay Bethesda for mods, if modders wanna put their stuff behind paywalls I am alright with that but I'm not giving Bethesda more money for Skyrim

An ongoing issue since the days of Morrowind. Fact is, if you engage in extortion-like tactics. Then the answer will be to hinder the exchange of currency between the extort-er and the extorted. No matter which way you try and paint it, the modding community is often in the wrong here. Demanding to be paid for unsolicited and unnegotiated work is extortion. Threatening to de-value a company's product or distribute it without a license is theft. Even if you believe you have some moral high ground, or principled position. It's a free market, if your skills are so valuable, that you believe you can demand compensation for your efforts, then by all means do so. By developing your own games. Which many "Modders" have tried and failed at. Many have succeeded. Bethesada has historically been fairly blase about modding and for the most part modders for their games have as well. But in recent years the modding community has become far more organized, bordering on unionized. With all the carrion calls of "Pirate everything!" beginning to be more than just a meme. But a call to action. Why wouldn't they be forced to protect their products? The gaming community is often guilty of putting the cart before the horse. In the case of the modding community it's very visible. Architects of their own demise. Unable to leave well enough alone. It's looking a lot like the digital download fever. That's left current day gamers with buyer's remorse. Demanding instant access to games. Which led to losing ownership of the game. Never forget children. Companies aren't intelligent, thinking, empathetic beings. They're machines. They simply respond to the market and try and generate revenue from it. WE. ARE.THE. MARKET. Thusly, if you're waiting for them to take the "Moral" position. You must ask yourself. Are we creating a market where the "Moral" position can generate revenue? If not. Then don't hold your breath.

Bethesda is giving skyrim the Biden build back better treatment, it wont actually fix anything and will cost you more money for an even worse return. Isnt corporate's idea of kill old games so the new ones look better working? No? Too bad they will continue to destroy all old titles so we cant remember what good gaming looked like.

is this a good thing? well, since its Bethesda lemme say 1 thing: Horse armor

Let's be real. Anniversary edition already killed the modding community. I have no reason to update past 1.5.97 as is.

Few days late, but Bethesda games are known for the mods fixing the game, I think people will stop buying the games if they have to pay more for something that fixes the studios issues.

changing the entire industry to worse, they did it again 🎉

As we all know skyyrim was always incomplete and never worked right. Moders are the heroes of skyrim that saved it from the fate of "good idea/poor execution obscurity" We also know many at bethesda are decent gamer type folks but Todd is not one of them. My bet is on this is an attempt to get moders to complete the games ideas and DLCs the suits at bethesda want but dont have the drive and/or talent to finish while paying a fraction of the cost to the talent. Think the music industry model but far worse. If you like Skyrim as much as I do, dont update with this. If forced to then use the work arounds that have already hit the moding sites.

Bethesda is already a lost cause guys. Elder Scrolls VI is going to be a disappointment. Modding in Elder Scrolls is going to become less rewarding as time goes on. All because these people worship corporate investment numbers. My advice is to not invest your future into any product this company puts out in the future. Not until Bethesda has earned our trust again.

Skyrim deleted i will do this on every game already looking at going back to PlayStation because Xbox had mods but Bethesda just killed that

I would gladly pay for mods, I will not pay Bathesda for the work of Modders.

O that's fine everyone will just not buy anything new for the game they'l stick with the old version of the game.

I'm all for the modder's but todd the lier will never see another penny from me and i am so thankful i avoided 2 bullet's one being fallout 76 and the other, starfield screw you bethesda!!!!

I downgraded just to be able to mod. I hope they stop and think and get rid of the paid mods.

Man, I love when some one talking about something needs to shove some shyt in about "gommie filth and capitalism bad". They are owned by microkuk, who gives a fuk anymore about bugthetic does in gen? "Hur, I need to use this ONE example to straw man THE WHOLE OF IT ALL!!! DURUBRUITUZZXORUIUTTZ *drool*" the video... Modding games has been out since even windows 95 games... There AINT SHYT anyone can do to prevent it... But clearly you play enough games or been apart of "The modding scene" to know this. "bu-but I made the statement of older/offline versions! DurishjursdriZirsudorisrt *drool*"... Yes, because even that maters... OOOOOH wait... It don't... If people want to "mod" something badly enough, it will happen... Arguably its even easier to mod things now then it was in the past as tools used to do such things, that are tailor made for 1 game or good enough to tweek ANY game are rather COMMON now... But again, I see some one don't pay attention to the "modding" community for shyt to even make a dumb arse video like this. A better video woulda been "What the effect of microkuk owning Bugthetic will have on the future of mods for Bugthetic games", but I guess you would have to understand that there are TONS upon TONS of other games that are not made by Bugthetic to have a grasp of how large "the modding community" really is. But then again... I'm sure you was born after 2k.

But what benefit do they get from destroying a really old game

skyrim came out in 2011 leave it the fuck alone

Honestly they ruined the game with this update. I doesn’t hours redownloading all the mods that got deleted because of this new update. The my library tab on the new creations menu does not show all your mods. If you back out and click on the my library tab again, literally mods that were there will be missing and mods that weren’t there will pop up. Not to mention the game crashes every 30 minutes, just while in the creations menu. This update added a paywall to previously free mods, and broke everyone’s load orders and previous game saves. Honestly I uninstalled

There's been so many of these videos posted lately. Just last night I was checking the SSE Nexus page... I had to restart my computer and when I booted back up and opened the page again like 5-6 new mods were added just in those 2 minutes. Skyrim modding is too big to fall chill out ppl.

I uninstalled Skyrim from my Xbox. All these stupid updates and the Proudspire manor house Karl room is STILL bugged. This was done with NO respect for the original vanilla game. I'm done.

i agree that mods should be behind a paywall and i do agree it makes sense for the creators of the original game to make a small income for the purchase of the mod. but this also needs to be backed by refund policies for poorly designed and buggy mods since were paying real money we expect real quality

I've heard the denuvo anti-cheat and corporate takeover fears for literal decades now, lol. Ever since Morrowind got it's GoTY Patch, that caused hundreds of well-loved mods to get patched to work right (often by other modders), we've seen doomer culture ring the bell of "Bethesda's ruining this thing that they know brings them a fanbase, money and employee prospects". And I definitely refuse to defend their choices... but I support what's happening right now for modders that make amazing work, that will have to be vetted into the paid programs. I'm not selfish or obnoxious. I will always root for the modders that form their own studios to get paid, so they can make better quality work and not give up on these amazing projects, because they need overtime to pay their rent. Remember 90% of mods will continue to be free and purely for the love of it. I will keep playing with free mods, like I've done for the last 23 years. Always take the doomer culture with a heavy grain of salt. It's often poison. It's always clickbait. It's as ill-informed as a blind scrib in Cyrodiil.

lol starfield was a massive flop so theyre trying to milk skyrim even more😆😆

Not so long ago people were bashing a starfield modder for charging money on his own DLSS mod...

Never pay for mods. I removed all of my mods from Nexus years ago, they do not deserve them. Modding and video games in general should be a product of passion and creativity, not 'i like money'. Two things that make me want to vomit are people thanking me for my service and eBeggars asking for donations. After removing my mods I still had people DM'ing me for custom skins in Skyrim and I did, spending days in 3DS/nifskope and illustrator, grateful that someone enjoyed my artwork. Mod creation isn't easy at first and always tedious but work, it is not.

Uninstalled. And downvoted on steam. Do your part. And do the same