Is Chronicled Wish Better Than Triple Banners? 

At least Beacon of the Reed Sea and Hunter's path wont be lost to time anymore

This chronicled banner basically replaces the need for triple, quadriple and beyond banners completely. The MAJOR problem is the fate point not staying over refreshes of the banner. Just remember to save around 160 fates before attempting to go for the thing you want. I'm thinking the chronicled banner will stay around for the whole version. (for example 4.5 part 1 and part 2) expect to see tighnari and dehya on the 4.6 chronicled.

For me, more options for players are always welcome and this Banner will not only help prevent characters from going years without reruns but is also a way to guarantee characters from the Standart Banner who have never had a Banner. And having it as a second option to get 5 Star Weapons is a nice bonus and I appreciate that they added it.

I do think it’s more of a good thing than a bad thing. Older characters who aren’t as popular anymore but still have plenty of fans can be put on this banner in groups of 3, which leaves the 2 main limited banners free for the more popular and newer characters. This will really help to clean up the banner system while still allowing people to get their hands on members of the old guard. Personally, I still love Ganyu and still use her as one of my mains. The game has mostly moved on from her, but she’s still quite good. I’d hate it if new players were unable to get her just because the heyday of her popularity is over and there’s less money to be made from her banner.

8:55 "I've done a fair share of small whaling" The timing of the background footage showing all your 5* weapons is hilarious 😂

as a relatively new player (started in 3.3) who only has two of the units on the upcoming Chronicle wish, and who WANTS the older units, this is a godsend because i can wish on it without blowing my pity for the limited banners! i don’t hear anyone discussing this- it’s another banner to save up pity on, so if you have your guarantee that you’re saving for your favorite unit, you can still pull for other units that you may want!

I really liked Chronicled Wish Banners

I think its for a full version. The banner in the livestream said "Version 4.5 chronicled wish banner", and there was no "First half/second half" text like they do for limited banners.

Meanwhile, in Honkai Impact, there's six tabs for banners in the gacha screen, two of which expand into two additional tabs each I almost forgot. New and returning players get another two banners

It took me 2 years to get C0 Qiqi. This banner may be a blessing for people like me who still don't have a standard banner character or want a specific weapon.

It is definitely superior way to get weapons

Considering I only ever pull on banners where I'm able and willing to hit 160 pulls for the 5* I want this is basically a third feature banner but with more options for collateral damage. I just wish they repeat often enough and feature limited characters for it to be worth the intertwined fates.

Calling out Yoimiya like that... Passed her up after soft-pitying Kazuha in 2.8, and passed her again and again. By the forth time, the stars had aligned, and I finally became something of a Yoimiya Main myself~

The only problem with it is that its really bad for people who impulse pull because it doesnt save your path, which is essentially your pity So if you only have enough for 90 pulls and you lose 50/50 you dont even get a guarantee for next time you just straight up lose All you can hope for at that point is that you lose 50/50 to another event character

It would have been good for me when I started and was DESPERATE for Mona. I even refused to move onto Liyue until I had her. *It took 8 fucking months* and it was one of the luckiest pulls I've had. Even if these characters aren't meta defining- there are Genshin players like us who just love a character and want to play them. Especially if the character is a Standard 5-star only. At least a Limited is a guarantee after 160. I'm pretty sure I exceeded 800 pulls until Mona showed up.

If you like it, use it. If you don't like it, don't use it. I don't know why this is so difficult for this community to understand.. So many people arguing about literally nothing.

Think of it this way, at least with this new banner system, (assuming the characters that are showcased are other limited characters instead of the standard) if you were to lose your 50/50, at least you get something that's not from the usual standard, like Qiqi for example.

That's the thing, this banner isn't perfect, and it would be nicer if for example faith points carried over. But it is a good banner, it has several benefits over the normal limited banners, especially if you want more than one of the 5 stars on offer. This first banner I won't be wishing on, I'd like to get Mona, but I'm not yet at a point where I would use it for standard 5 star characters. But another version with limited 5 stars I actually do want, I will definitely make use of it. It might also finally make me wish for a weapon if one I'd really like is included. I really do hope it becomes a permanent banner though, ideally running a full patch or maybe even two, perfect for building up wishes.

It looks like all of this banner is Monstadt based. I would expect the next version to include similar characters from Liyue or Inazuma.

I hope it lasts for around 2-3 versions. Quick enough to change somewhat frequently but long enough to maybe get 2 five stars since then the fate points won’t be too big of a downside

I have started a standard banner only account and its so funny to me that this came out in less then a month after I started the account

I'm excited, when I watched the announcement stream this was unexpected but very welcomed for me. I didn't think it was that hard to follow how the banner worked and then after reading the hoyolab post Q/A it was definitely made clear to me. Personally my biggest feat I'm hoping for is still a Paimon shop rework that maybe has 5* characters or weapons but this is welcome from me. I'm a launch player and I don't have every character/ weapon but I'm willing to spend some money when I feel it would be for something I'll enjoy or use for a while. This is finally a way for me to get a Skyward Harp. I'm someone who's super selective on what I wish for, through all of Version 3 I only wished for Tighnari Dehya and Albedo because nothing else felt interesting so for me this banner is really good because the reward of things I want it higher

Finally someone here asking the important questions

I think it was your video on Tignahri's limited banner, I commented that I do not own Jean after playing the game since day 1so I would be pulling for him. It has now been another year, I have C2 Tignahri and no Jean. I will be pulling on this banner.

Your videos butter My biscuits thank you

You can also guarantee standard 5 stars that may have eluded you for a long time.

Eventhough the current banner might be a midfest. Looking into the future, this banner is gonna be better than anything we imagine now. Like maybe even better than the normal limited banner Eventually, theyre gonna have to put some pretty good but old units on there like think of the early liyue roster. There is eventually gonna be an inazuma theme. Ayaka and mistsplitter on banner anyone? Similar with those good units will come good weapons which we will now more easily be able to get with only 1 fate point requirement Plus we wont have like dehya and qiqi on the same banner most of the time so losimg your 50/50 to absolutely useless units will be less likely. This banner will eventually become slightly worse than the good limited banners which have good 4 stars but better than the average character banner They are gonna have to artificially keep it down for this to not happen. If things happen naturally, this banner has a good future

A lot of people were also upset it doesn't used standard banner fates which I think is a little silly, since it also isn't a replacement for the standard banner.

I wonder if something from FGO could maybe work here: In addition to standard and limited characters FGO has a third type of characters: Story locked These characters start off as limited but get added to the standard pool after a certain amount of story progress

And then Hoyo comes out and says, "oh btw the 5 star chance on this banner is 0.4%, we forgot to mention that last time!" Or it could be 0.8% or 1.2%. We don't know, and honestly knowing the rates is really the primary thing you'd want before evaluating a banner. People are assuming it's the same old 0.6 but that was never stated officially and the fact they didn't post it implies something is up with that. Maybe they are planning to set the rates based on player response, for example 0.4 if most online reactions are positive but 1.2 if they are overwhelmingly negative. We also don't know about the 4 stars. It's being assumed there are no rate ups and it's like the standard banner but no official info on it. It might only have 4 stars from that region. It might or might not have 4 star limited weapons or event weapons. It might even have rate up 4 stars like normal banners, or a system that allows players to pick them similar to the 5 star path.

I got my first Limited 5 Star C1 on the Banner. It was Eula.

Its better than weapon banner that's for sure

Bro spittin' fakts

I think the biggest thing people are overlooking, especially people new to Genshin is no rate up 4 stars, 4 stars in Genshin are amazing and a big factor in whether you should pull on a banner or wait for a rerun and this banner not having that is a big downside.

I love the concept of this banner, but for me, it just doesn’t work out. I have had Klee since her first rerun, was nerved interested in getting Eula, but I really want Albedo, his prior reruns just had bad timing for me. Of course I don’t mind getting Eula, since a new character is always nice, but I don’t really need C1 of Klee. (In general, C1 of older characters is often worse than others). On top of that, I would need to build up new pity all the way from 0, potentially needing over 150 wishes just for one character (I might even lose the fate point if I am really unlucky) As someone who already has most of the characters they want, just missing a few, it sadly just isn’t worth the investment. I hope future banners are better for me since for example other C1 are pretty decent (like Hu Tao), or I don‘t have any of the limited 5 Stars.

Its great for players like me who waited many patches for a single character. I started in 3.2 and missed out on Albedo until this one.

if anything this is the closest thing for us to get Regional Banner

I need the beacon for my navia

One real problem is that one of the criteria for a limited character to get onto the Chronicled Wish is to have at least THREE total runs under their belt first. This means things like how Shenhe can't get rerun yet because she's only on 2 runs; which means they're probably NOT going to run this Chronicled Wish every patch, because it won't work that way. We really need to see how a second Chronicled Wish plays out to see the general future of it: for example, one thing we can infer from our first one ever is that it is a fully Mondstadt focused one (outside of weapons but whatever) for characters: everyone is from Mondstadt. Also (idk if Amber Kaeya Lisa will be on this) no idea on 4*. But thematically, right now all we have is a "regional" theme.

please make a chiori guide!

excited to get hunters path for tighnari since hes one of my most used characters, and im actuallyhappy about the possibility of getting sobp for my eula should i lose the 50/50 (im a collector i cant help myself). its also to get other homeless weapons that dont appear on banners anymore like PRIMORDIAL JADE CUTTER CMON PLEEEEAAAASE

My question is. Does the crhonicle wish last for the whole version or is it for just one of the banner?

I need to ask, how would triple banners work if they were added instead of Chronicled Wish? Would there be a banner for each of the 3 characters and 1 weapon banner? Or would there be 2 weapon banners with 2 signature weapons on 1 banner and the other banner has the last signature and a standard 5 star weapon, or would one of the signature weapons be on both weapon banners? Or would there be a separate banner for each combination of 2 weapons? They could rework the weapon system entirely, but do we really expect Mihoyo to ever do something that would make the weapon banners any less predatory again? Either way, the only way there would be the same amount of banners as just adding Chronicled wish would be the first option I said, but having 3 weapons on the weapon banner would either make it more complicated, by you choosing which weapons you would want, or the odds of getting the weapon you actually want would be dropped to 25%.

clarification, with the evidence of hindsight, double banners didnt make characters come back twice as fast. It made Yoimiya return way to often and the old abandoned units still barely returned

Finally. The skyward harp is MINE.

I think that they should have added a banner where you can pick a 5 start for fhe chance up maybe even the 4 stars, I believe that if such a banner comes around 3 times a year alot of players will be happy

the banner add the option to lose your 50/50 to a limited 5 star, which means if it has at least one character you want, then you have a chance to get way more from a lost 50/50 than from the event banners. they could make the banner stacked or awful depending on which characters they put on it, right now they put the three worst mondstadt characters basically (which are coincidentally some of my faves to play), but they could in a few patches put that one niche character you always wanted but could never bring yourself to get because wishes are expensive. well now he's next to 2 other limited 5 stars you can lose your 50/50 to, maybe even characters you already use, so suddenly it's a little more worth to pull for.

I hope we get a liyue chronicled wish and that I would have enough wishes to pull on it

If you save up of course Literally an extra banner (with the caveat that if you lose the 50/50 you HAVE to garantee you have enough for the next 5★)

The chronical wish's problem is that it requires a lot of investment because of the fate system and for characters that aren't really good. I rather keep wishing towards the normal banner anyway just because my progress always carries

As a tighnari main, I'm just glad to have hunter's path avaliable again.

The fact that things are obtainable or guarantee-able now that weren't before possibly makes this better than triple banners even if the character throughput is less in reality. On top of that, you can lose the 50/50 to a limited unit. If you are going for constellations on older characters, this banner is a better value. About the rerun time... the character throughput will be the same. We might not see another of these for quite a few versions (I think 4.8 or 5.3 since they are slower patches). But it will still be the same character throughput. If they introduced triple banners, it likely wouldn't be consistent until after 5.0. It was inconsistent with the start of double banners before they became consistent in 3.0. They will do either the triple banners or this new chronicle banner on demand as needed to make sure they fit each character having at least 1 banner within a region. That's the pattern they've been following, even with Eula. She just had a run near the start of one region and near the end of the next. With just this one chronicle banner with 3 limited units, they've solved the issue of getting every character at least 1 rerun within the (major) version. They never were going to actually speed up the character reruns to shorten the duration between them. They want the fomo. They are only keeping the rerun time about where its at. So. All in all this is a better system. Same throughput, additional weapons and guarantee's, and its better for old character cons. (I noticed you didn't address the fate point thing people keep complaining about. I really don't see that as a major issue.)

I guess the main thing about this banner is access to weapons. If characters signature weapons appear on it, it'll outclass the weapon banner, so I believe they either won't, or will be very rare. Also, featured ones needs at least 3 reruns and if leak rumors are true, we might get a new tendency of characters that are OP, but only with their signature weapon, so this way Hoyo will flay the wallets of those wishing on new characters and their weapons until their 3rd reruns. The 2nd main thing is access to standarders. I've been playing religiously since 2.8 and still got no Qiqi, Jean, Tighnari and only got my first Diluc and Dehya in the last 2 months. Its too early to judge this banner, but I think it's very positive overall. Hunter's Path and Beacon Reed are definitely traps to make people broke before Arlecchino, though.

I wonder if we'll ever get to a point where all the characters available on the cycle would be limited characters and not a single standard character. That way, you won't technically lose the pity :0

The chronicle wish could have been “perfect” if only the fate point could be brought over It would truly be perfect if it was the blue wishes as well

Damn i just realized the raccoon at the bottom of the screen is the progress bar for the vid. How long have you been doing this

As a Klee main, I'm not even mad. I learned extra patience through working around the klunkiness. I'd also extra embrace this banner if it allows us to pick up the free weapons from past events.

The problem is lack of carry over. It's the same reason I've stopped investing anything in weapons banner.

Something that I've not seen said nough is how good it will FEELS to lose a 50/50 to a limited 5 star. Sure Eula, Klee and Albedo may not actually be that much better than the standard 5 stars and personally I don't even want Eula or Klee, but it would feel so much better to get one of them than to get a character that is a permanent member on literally every single banner that you were probably going to get sooner or later anyways.

I just want more Dehya and more Beacons. If this is the way to get them, so be it.

I think all i need to day in defence of this banner is if it got introduced in homtai starrail instead. Everyone would say genshin could never

Here a simple reason why it's better than triple banner (we are talking about 3 * 2 banner, not 3 phases of 14 days instead of 21) : The weapon banner The weapon banner, have two sig weapon on it, if we have 3 characters banner than mean they would put 3 weapon on the banner making it even worst than it is today. And would not solve the Beacon and Hunter's Path issue

Im hoping that the weapon banner exclusive four stars will be on this banner, I refuse to wish on the weapon banner as a f2p but having stringless and other four stars would be nice!

Not to say anything bad, but they said yes, how long does the banner last, because I went to see the 4.5 live, the banner lasts the entire version

I take my words back, this banner is better than I expected. 1) It doesn't have two fate points, like that scamming weapon banner, you'll get a guarantee after first lose. 2) Regional banner limits characters from other regions, which is good because: more chance to get starter characters since they're from Mondstadt (I literally have C2 Kaeya, C2 Lisa and C1 Amber thanks to this banner) 3) When you choose a weapon, it limits on losing on weapon only vice versa with characters, it's very good, because you can't get unwanted character when you only wanted a weapon. 4) Now limited weapons of Standard characters (Dehya and Tighnari) are no longer in awkward position, and you can finally pull them, I finally got Bacon! 5) You literally can lose your 50/50 to a limited character, what an irony 6) and also you can get many limited characters in one banner, not just 2(excluded standards). 7) People who can't get a specific standard character and/or constellations finally can choose them, cough Jean cough. (Add something what also you found good)

man the neuvilette and kazha weapon banner is gonne be cracked

I just hope they make it clear to new players how the banner works. The fate point not carrying over is not that big of a deal, as long as people are informed of it. (Unless they're gamba addicts obviously)

Fate point is the only thing screwing this banner up. It would be great if we could also choose the rate up 4*s as well but thats just an extra thing that would be really nice, the fate point requiring 160 pulls for low value characters is awful :(

Despite the needing to deal with 50/50 every time I see the new banner as a positive. The pool of 5 stars now making it so you can lose to a limited and the fact the weapon banner is better then the event version are pluses. I've skipped Albedo till now and the fact that all I need to not lose to is Mona(have her c6 ;_;) this first chronicled wish I see as an 80% win. Current plan for 4.5 is try and get Neuvilette's weapon in limited then throw what I have left into the character half of the new banner (then maybe if I get Albedo I'll go for Eula's sword)

My sister wants Albedo and Chiori’s sword so I hope the chronicled wish lasts at least a all of 4.5 (though also 4.6 would be nice imo)

I think chronicled wish isn’t necessarily an alternative to triple banners, I think it was an alternative to migrating the early limited characters who’ve rerun 3+ times to the standard banner, and I think it’s both a good and bad thing

9:42 furina piece😊

Tbh i wanna get eula and beacon but with neuvi on next banner i guess i gotta wait for the next one and 100% sumeru to all of em

im extremely excited solely because I've been begging for a Diluc banner for YEARS. He's finally coming home 🥺

It’s not gonna be a good value for everyone, but you also don’t have to pull on the banner. This is a good way to make characters who aren’t as profitable and (subjectively) a “waste” of an event banner slot still obtainable. Also, not that I see Hoyo dropping too many new standard 5*s going forward, but it’s great to see the limited 5* weapons for Dehya and Tighnari finally reappear somewhere

I like the idea of it, but the fate points need to carry over!

the only thing setting chronicled banned back is fate point system that resets after the banner is gone, dont think that was a nesessery move by hoyo

My only issue is that my choice of attempting a 50/50 for Albedo got removed because of this banner. I would’ve rather liked getting a normal banner for Albedo after waiting a year.

Eula is my first 5 star, LOL

As a Eula main, uh... *this is like christmas for me* xD

C6 Kaeya let’s go! 4 rotating icicles!

Well, big Hoyo L today. The special banner only lasts half a patch. F.

I really wish this had replaced the standard banner.

If you know what you're doing, and have 160+ wishes saved, it's better than triple banners--more characters, rare weapons, losing 50/50 isn't quite as bad. For impulsive wishers and new players, it's worse, because of the fate point trap. It'd be a little better if it was AR-locked or something. Ideally they'd just let the fate point carry over, but it's very unlikely they'll backpedal on that.

How? you lose pity and guaranteed is limited so ??

Nursing home banner

The banner is not perfect, mainly the fate point thing, but it's more good than bad, just as Mihoyo intended for it to be. Personally, I won't touch it cause I'm a long time player and already have every characters I want. But I can see this to be a very tempting banner for newer players, cause there can be multiple characters they want in it.

you kinda remind me of paulsoaresjr

my problem with the chronicle banner is that it seems to be a banner for characters that won´t get any buffes in the future anymore which sucks for people who likes them. This banner killed my hope for any future Unit being a buff for Eula and Albedo, 2 Units I like are barely playable when you have better Units. Xiao got Faruzan and Xianyun, while Albedo and Eula got nothing and now that they are on the throw away banner they will never get any good new Units to help them out. I think this banner will stay full fontaine and then when Natlan comes out we will se something like Yoimiya, Ganyu and Ayato. It´s just a banner for Units that don´t make money and neither will they give them better units to help them out. Eula is worse then Diluc and Keqing now like for real I rather pull a standard 5 star then Eula if I wouldn´t have her already

I AM THE PERSON WHO LOVES EULA AND KLEE

chronicle is the best system by far at least for me

After coming back to this game after quitting back at Childes 2nd banner and seeing all this stuff still going on I've already quit again. I don't really understand this game at all and why it still exists to be honest.

I am 100% that if you lose 50:50 you will get standard banner character/weapon and not the limited one.

10:01 How do you not know how to pronounce Liyue as a Genshin CC😭 It's Lee-yuu-ay

Its alr but i cant afford it as a f2p especially when we are getting similar amount of wishes every patch😢😢

gacha has always been predatory. It's a business of course they'll try to bait you into spending, especially those hopeless gacha addicts. This chronicle banner has plenty of good points which Ratheil has already point out the only downside I see it has is the guarantee doesn't carry over, which can easily be overcome if you know how to save primogems and plan your pulls. If you're the type who immediately wish once you get 160 primogem, then this banner is really bad for you. Devs wont make this chronicle banner equal or better since it will reduce the value of the existing event banner.

This is a *"$17/h is better than $16/h"* copium situation. It is better but leaves a lot to hope for.

Fate points do not carry over to next version and pity doesn't count towards the main banners (I think). So if you wish in this banner it has to be until a 5 star, otherwise you're wasting wishes, and that sucks for new and FTP players. Ironically, this fits whales better but whales probably have everything at this point so it's kinda useless for them at the same time. I would have liked a triple banner instead, to be honest.

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I just wish that the fate point would carry over and they would separate the weapon banner. Those are my only complaints with Genshin's gacha.