I am 29 turning 30 MJ is the greatest player ever lebron isn’t better than Kobe to me 🤷🏽♂️ he’s a greatest crybaby of all time I’ll give him that cried for 10 top 100 players of his own generation to be his teammates and still only won 4 outta 20 times is laughable
@@alexanderstuart1528 Bron had shaq as well and didn’t make the East finals? 2 pau gasol is comparable but a better Zydrunas Ilgauskas 😂😂 outta everyone number 2 he’s the worst r u kidding me 😂 Kobe 3 finals wit pau Bron barely has 1 wit Anthony Davis 😂😂😂😂😂😂 give Kobe AD omg 🤦🏽♂️
@@devwhit4289 I love that big z got brought up here. Mo and Z were solid players but revisionist history got these new NBA fans looking at em like they were scrubs. And that comment about ad and Kobe together is so good. Imagine the defensive intensity of that team and how that would trickle down the roster. Unpopular opinion, but Kobe and ad would be a better combo than Kobe and Shaq. The way those dudes played both sides of the ball would have been incredible to watch, and I know for a fact that they'd have more than 1 ring together. Lebron was getting bronze in 04, bronze in 06, before Kobe set that young team straight to get the gold in 08. His leadership skills are so underrated by this new generation.
Of course it’s off court, on court he will never be the goat. His legacy will be Klutch controlling the media for years to come to diminish Jordan and Kobe, and lift up LeBron.
You don’t have to be the GOAT to be remembered as a great player though 😂. People get so caught up in GOAT debates they don’t appreciate what Lebron has done as a player.
@@datsapaddlin you make no sense. YOU said people get caught up in the GOAT debate and they don’t appreciate etc, etc. I’m saying Lebron is the only player obsessed making himself out to be the GOAT.
Chris Broussard has no credibility on this subject in my view. He's compromised via his relationship with Klutch. His claim of "narrative" is one that he help creates and pushes. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't take Chris Broussard serious at all.
So unless someone just trashes Lebron all the time they have no credibility? What evidence is there that says he’s with Klutch sports? Or is that a “narrative” that you & others push bc you disagree with him
Kareem belongs in the convo but not winning finals MVP multiple times and winning a regular season MVP while not making the playoffs would be used against Lebron
What is LeBron’s “off court legacy”? I’m scratching my head tryna figure it out here. Feels like another fake LeMedia narrative used to pump up this fake goat. What has he done?
Man Broussard pushes hard on the GOAT talk .The guy gave a anser the Broussard didn't like so he went to Rob G. Broussard is actually the first person in sports media that started the " Lebron is the second greatest ".
@@alonzojones9626he sold out because he’s repped by klutch. Rich is a shadow owner, that is Lebron’s agency. Chris can’t be objective about Lebron because that’s essentially a guy brokering deals for him.
You only speak for the minority and no one cares lol.. LeBron put himself in position to play with better players because of the incompetence of the organization in Cleveland and free agents didn't want to go and play in a small market in Cleveland... I can literally destroy and shred your comment into pieces. LeBron has the greatest career than whomever your favorite player is... you have to accept it lol.... Sorry!
Tell that to the people who actually matter, the media heads who vote for the Hall of Fame. Tell that to all the legends, the Bird's, the Kobe's, the Oscar's, the Magic's, the Dr. J's, the Jerry West's; God rest his soul, who all praised Lebron as one of the all-time greats. Hate to break it to you, but nobody gives an F what some jealous, nondescript nobody wants to think about a successful brutha who, when you look in the mirror, you know is better than you.
His legacy is having the media(ESPN) in his back pocket to never say nothing bad about him. Great player yes but lotta toxicity And always needs top 10 star players around him to win and blame others for his failures in the court.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about. How does LeBron have the media in his back pocket? Does he tell ESPN, ABC, FOX, NBA TV, and etc to talk about him at the start of every morning program? The media talks about him soooooo much because they're telling you what they're not telling you lol... Think deeper into that.. Then you mentioned LeBron needed a great player to win... Which of the Top 10 player of all time won a championship without a great teammate? I'm waiting.
@@ike.o6944 facts, Stephen A. always ripping his ass. Doug Gottlieb has nailed Lebron to the cross. Rob Parker has religiously crucified Lebron. Rick Bucher can't stand Lebron. Hell, even a former player who claimed to be a friend of Lebron has become a foe, Kendrick Perkins. Lebron is hated, even by the clout-chasing media.
@@volfi123 so then u gotta ask yourself why wouldn’t he let Mj get a bunch of all stars to team with but Bron is able to get tons of the best players of his own generation to try to pass Mj and still couldn’t 😭
All Laker fans I know are hardcore. You're a fraud. So if the Lakers are likable, you can always start rooting for one of the other teams in the state. 🤡
Lebum? Think about the corny-ass juvenility name Lebron haters invented, then ask yourself if the first billionaire athlete who is widely recognized as one of the greatest in NBA history is a bum then WTF are you? Then realize how stupid Lebron haters make themselves look in the eyes of those who are objective.
The gen before jordan say mj ,mj error say mj ,lebron error say mj this generation majority say mj why is this conversation even relevant oh clutch sports this why?
I say it's Jordan but my real issue isn't who but how much people take the argument too seriously like Nick Wright. They seem to approach it as if it's a personal achievement. Like thinking so & so is the GOAT is somehow a win for them. It's just sad.
Nick Wright is an emotional fanboy who got a job as a sports journalist lol all his opinions come from the view point of a die hard LeBron fan and not an authentic journalist.
Jordan has put more kids thru college than LeBron would ever dream of. The Oregon Ducks Athletics Program was built with money that Jordan has made for Nike but nobody brings that up
Lebron is the the only player I’ve ever seen never be the best offensive and defensive player in the league with no go to move lose more in the big games then win and somehow be considered great😭Kobe shaq Larry Magic curry Hakeem Kareem Duncan are all better than lebron
MJ is the only player I can say is better than Lebron. Those other guys wasn’t even always the best player in the finals when they won so that take makes no sense. They are all great though
Why is that? Because LeBron ,even at 39 years old, is still the most polarizing player in the NBA lol.... I swear people don't see what the media has been doing for the past 20 something years with LeBron. They tell you he's not the GOAT but LeBron leads every sports show in the America when he's speaks or plays lol.... The most scrutinized player in American sports history still high school.....LeBron is breaking records left and right and the media continue to move the goal post for him, which they do not do for any other player in the history of the NBA or American sports.. hmmm I wonder why.... The media is telling you that they're not telling you.
The stuff they keep giving Lebron credit for off the court they never give any examples cause the most i seen him speak against racism was when Kyrie read that book and the school is just in his name he doesn't contribute to it financially
Thank you! He’s seen as this “black activist” but all he does is throw brothers under the bus and stay silent when they get abused by fans and the media in his name.
Here are some examples since you don’t want to research & stay ignorant. Spoke up about Trayvon Martin, George Floyd, help start “more than a vote” organization, producing multiple social documentaries, having a scholarship paying for kids to go to college etc etc. Y’all really hate this man for no reason lol
OK, paying off American citizens' fines and court costs so the can Vote is more important. We can talk about racism but if the racist don't listen Ole I checked off a box for your pleasure.
Most def was. I was 10 years old in 2003. If you asked me who I thought was considered the GOAT before MJ, I would've guessed DR J without a doubt. Nobody used to talk about Kareem the way they do now. It wasn't until the debate show stuff started. Whether people agree with it or not, I def always heard about Dr J when I was growing up. Kareem would've been like my 5th guess after Wilt, Russell, Magic and Bird.
This so desperate the goat conversation on Lbj side has to do with bronny and movies and if lebroni buys a team if he throw s alley opp wtf are ya talking about
This is so pathetic! Who cares if he pulled strings and an organization was lame enough to trade their competitive future to draft a player they normally wouldn't. Of the court prowess has nothing to do with the goat debate. Tired of manufactured categories that only benefit James being thrown out and pushed by the marketing media! James went to stacked teams to compete and came up short more often than not. He isn't a true alpha like MJ and Kobe. His behind the scenes machinations are a disgrace. Merit only in the goat debate. He isn't a serious candidate for goat no matter who he pays to promote otherwise.
the reason WHY lebron is not respected by many is: alot his ACTIONS are staged, they're NOT AUTHENTIC like... joining the miami team to WIN, floppin for calls, his son not being that GOOD but still gettin in the LEAGUE... him & his camp always tryin to discredit kobe & mike & other PLAYERS to make him seem better... REAL PEOPLE who's not on his PAYROLL will NEVER RESPECT that!💯
-"reading" book on Malcom X but can't summarise it to save his life -trying to make it seem like he has seen godfather when asked by journalists when he clearly hasn't -they fouled and we didn't -he never cheated the game -he never played in a super team
Lebron did everything and probably paid millions to put down Kobe’s game. Lebron heart tells him everyday to fear Kobe name. All his people are scared to say Kobe name.
Although I don’t believe in a “goat” per say due to different circumstances, eras and responsibilities. When I look at best players I look at it I put this player on any team they would automatically elevate to championship expectation status. Only one of those two players have shown they fit that criteria. I loved Jordan growing up but I never thought the Wizards would be in the championship conversation. Nor did I think the Bulls were before they started clicking. To me this debate generally falls into style rather than substance. It’s undeniable that Lebron did more with less and Jordan had the better teams during the Bulls championship run. One persons team went to the lottery when they left and the others went to the second round of the playoffs after winning 55 games.
Lebron's legacy is someone who's the biggest cry baby in all of sports. He manipulates teams to bring in other star players to give him the easier path to win titles, that's all. That's why no real old school NBA players really respect him like that. Tim Duncan is better than him, Shaq is better than him, Kobe is better than him too. And he damn sure is not on the level of a Michael Jordan or Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Lebron James is the most manufactured, scripted and inauthentic player ever.
Chris and all lebron employees in the media can’t mention Kobe‘s name. Sad they all sold their sold. Kobe has a family that love him. Please stop the disrespect, you know Kobe ran the NBA
Lebron is 🔥 💯 don't care what nobody says Lebron wins a championship with his son making history again hands down one of the greatest stories in sports
Lebron has not done more than MJ of the court. Stop it. People please look up MJ off the court. It’s not even close. Keep it real black people bash MJ because black always wants some to speak for them. It’s weak.
Bruh the greatest player is subjective.. if you like players getting teammates involved moving the ball you would say magic or lebron but if you only want your player to score you would go jordan Kobe Kareem! You can’t put everyone’s thought process in just scoring!!
Chris saying someone should be silenced is crazy. He should be silence from giving Lebron felatio through the microphone every single day. That’s what should be silenced
Except GOAT is best on-court player OF ALL TIME! The rest of your points are unimportant. I know Jordan for competing, winning, impeccable game. Lebron is greatest because he manipulated his son into the NBA? Because he turns out to be a better owner? I call crap, that is a lame conversation to try and prop up
MJ Kareem Magic Bill Russell Wilt LeBron isnt top 5. Why? Bill Russell won a lot as player and player coach Wilt won 2 rings in 14 years. Isnt bad as 4 rings in 24 years like LeBron. LeBron only has longevity
The first thing we think of with MJ is the bulls 6 rings and the shoes. When we think of Bron we see the 3-1 comeback, 40,000+ pts, great role model and comparing his eras with Lakers, Heat, and Cavs.
Why is Broussard so rude on this show? He will NOT stop talking over whomever is his co-host! He actually makes me feel sorry for Rob! He isn't like this on First Things First. 🤦🏿♂️
The GOAT argument is dumb. Best player of each decade is more accurate. The game changes every 10 years. Kobe, bron, Jordan ,Kareem they all faced different style of game, different type of competition. You cannot measure them the same
“You can’t say LeBron is the goat. You have to say Jordan is the goat. Don’t give Gen Z’s that pass.” What an insanely ridiculous thing to say. Literally brainwashed
Chris gets paid to speak about Lebron. It’s truly nauseating from someone who preaches integrity and values. Very hypocritical as your brother in Christ. Integrity is key not bias Mr klutch Broussard
This was his point thou. Couldn’t match Jordan with chips and accolades. So he’d figure he’d do all the other off court…longevity stuff to get the newer generation to call him the GOAT.
Lol bad takes from these dudes. In 50 years from now when most people around the Globe hear the name "Lebron James" the first thing that comes to their minds will be "left Cleveland to join a super team in Miami." Keeping it real.
Lebron is about the 15th greatest individual player. Maybe he's a greater team player, but as far as individual skill 1 on 1. He's somewhere around top 15. The n b a should do a one on one tournament every year for greatest player Is during all star break kobe would have won his whole career And we would never hear this goat b s conversation
The Jordan brand will live forever. MJ has just as many business ventures if not more. He has more nba and ncaa championships. Time freezes when Jordan walks in the room. Lebron teaming up with his son is just him competing with MJ and having that one thing that one thing that nobody else has
No one said anything about a “pass” they just don’t agree with you. And people absolutely do not think “GOAT” when they hear Jordan today, they think of shoes.
Off court Jordan built 2 hospitals donated 100 million dollars plus stuff that was never made public because Jordan has dignity chris broussard is literally paid by lebron he lost all credibility in his career
Chris Broussard stop lying for us lol. Us in our 30’s don’t believe lebron the goat nor #2. Lebron is top 5 at best. He’s behind Jordan magic Kareem bill
hey Broussard u have to do ur homework on da pelicans we have enough shooting we got mcollum trey murphy herb jones jordan hawkins matt ryan and our draft pick Antonio reeves he is the best 3pt shooter in this yr draft he played at Kentucky
Chris he may one day be a GM but he will never be the owner or majority owner of any team let alone one in Vegas!! Teams are far more expensive than people are thinking!