@@mism847 define good life, Yes they could have a good life up until nearing end of life, whereby they suffer immense pain and immeasurable suffering that you wouldn't wish on anyone...is it still a good life at that point?...it's a bit of a gamble don't you think...
If I had a child then I would be forcing them into the type of life that they might eventually hate and want nothing to do with. And if an afterlife exists then I might be forcing them into an afterlife that they might eventually hate and want nothing to do with. And those are the reasons why I will never have children.
@@AnonymousWon-uu5yn we can't really know if they might or might not want to live,you only see the part which he hates it,what about the part if he loves it,not to mention that if everyone thought in the same you are doing, humanity will come to an end eventually
@@bibauu it's evil to take the risk on someone elses behalf to force them into the type of existence that they might hate to exist in. And if they don't ever exist then that's not bad because they can't be harmed if they don't exist.
@@AnonymousWon-uu5yn and they cant be happy if they dont exist ? Also it's not evil to give life. Let's say for example you have a bad life,your children may grow up and change their lives for better so they their children will have a good life. One more thing ,if you simply decide to not start life you are simply depriving someone in the upcoming family tree from having the chance to have a good life
It’s not worth it. I intend to apply for medical assistance in dying when it opens up for people will mental illnesses in March. I think the longest period of remission I have had from my bipolar is about 3 months and I spend the majority of my time in depression. I gave it 2 decades of trying medication, treatments like ECT, rTMS, Ketamine and psychotherapy. I feel like Sisyphus except it’s not like I kidnapped Thanatos, so I really don’t know how I pissed off the Gods.
@@mitch5222Not good obviously, what do you think?! Life is one sick game that is constructed by the most evil malevolent sadistic force that gorges on each being’s suffering. This life is shit. Some of these questions are so STUPID!
It depends on your prospects in life: if the outlook is very grim and utterly hopeless in the sense that someone is dealing with incurable physical or psychological conditions or even something else like severe financial problems or drug addiction I can't blame people for taking their own lives, we can only be so strong when all is said and done. I don't condone it but certainly don't condemn it either because life is extremely difficult and painful for so many people. The world has it's beautiful aspects but a lot of miserable heartbreaking aspects as well.
If life is obviously worth living and therapy can help a person to realize that, then why do so many therapists never train to help people who have suicidal ideation? Why would a person be accredited in therapy or an academic course be approved that means to never help people with ideation? How is dying bad for you? If the badness of a person's life has overwhelmed them, how is it ethical to torture them with guilt and with obligation to continue to suffer?
Thank you for raising these important questions. In my experience many people, who have had suicidal thoughts, feel much better at a later time. Peter Goertz
Granted. But if it is given that that it is worthwhile to choose to live, how does not helping suicidal people make a good therapist? How is the therapist not training to help people to see that life is worthwhile not a tacit confession that the therapist is avoiding thinking about life being worthwhile because they also know that lving is not worthwhile? @@goertzpsychiatry9340
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 So what? Not everyone follows your same worldview. Not everyone wants to live a life that's mostly suffering with only a few good years, even if it's "at a later time". Why did you not answer the question: How is dying bad for you?
I think many people who work in mental health aren’t trained well or maybe loose the ability to be compassionate. It’s a huge shame. I have found over and over again that I get turned away when I’m at my worst, and that leads to more despair. I hid my suicidality for decades. When I finally tried to tell a psychiatrist, I was repeatedly turned away and treated like I was attention seeking. It’s pretty rare that talking about it actually leads to any help. In many ways it feels like keeping it inside is better. Because telling the wrong person makes it so much worse.
@RADIUMGLASS Your cousin's celebration of life bears so much meaning, and it's always a permanent solution to a temporary problem. When my cousin died, it was really hard, especially on all of us as well. After the first decade without him, I'd breakdown bawling for him, and I don't try to change things I don't have. I still think of him very often. Just because we don't enjoy our circumstancial consciousness now doesn't mean we can't change Be strong, aggressive, assertive, and be actionable! Keep your head up.
I’ve been at my worst recently, have been struggling to access compassionate care, and I love seeing your kind face and hearing your gentle and thoughtful comments. Thank you so much for. You give me hope
I agree. This is the first video of his that I've seen. The healing that comes when a doctor stops being a "doctor" for just a moment and speaks to us as one human to another is so incredibly therapeutic, so healing. I honestly hunger for videos like this. Thank you so much.
@@anatman6304 if you’re struggling, watch more. His videos have helped me a lot. I managed to stand up for myself and refuse to return to the psychiatrist who absolutely horrible to me because his videos helped me see I deserve better. It felt so good to say “I still really need help, but no one has the right to talk to me the way she did” when her office called to re-schedule. I do still need a doctor to help me figure out my meds, but I took back the self-esteem that was never hers to trample on.
Thank you, i am very depressed right now and seeing life in this way like a giant school really helps me. I actually used to think this way, but thoughts like these don't cross your mind too often, when you're very depressed. So thx for the lil reminder! ❤
Thank you so much for your content Sir. I have been in a dark place from quite awhile and I have been asking these questions myself. I am trying to push it to through but at times I do feel like there's nothing that's gonna help.
Thank you for your personal comment Maninder. I hope things improve for you soon. I you feel that you might do something to harm yourself, please go to an emergency room. Peter Goertz
@@reddbendd haha why do 'you' care..? Or are you just repeating automatic responses that emerge from the herd mentality, hive mind collective conscious regurgitate?...Who says you must live or survive.?
Life doesnt know the meaning of "worth", at least not in the philosophical sense. So in that case no it is not. But life and in our case our existance is not about whether we like it or not. Whether it is worth it or not. Of course it is not, because it does not matter at all. If it is worth or not. You live for whatever reason, let it be just chance or fate. You are alive and now you have to deal with it no matter the worth. You were given this existance and you cannot sell it. Life has no value per se, its an unchangable fact. It is or it isnt. Either you can enjoy it or you cannot. There is absolutely no worth to it. If you are lucky you can like it and if not well... then bad luck for you :D . Life is literally more like a bitch as they say :D
I have been struggling day in and day out to work, and looking for something that makes me want to continue living. For the past few months, I have been falling in love with something that I have ignored for years. It gives me purpose to push through my stressful job because one day, I could get out of there and pursue what I desire. I have shared that with my loved ones, but they think it will not help anyone. They think that I would just be wasting money and time. I understand that we are not rich. That is why they reacted that way. However, I do not wish to continue living and working just for the money. It kills parts of me every day. What really saddens me is that they know my mental struggles and that if I have something that makes me happy, it keeps me away from negative thoughts that have already destroyed me in the past. I just wanna live my life with happiness while working and helping them. This spiraled really negatively and now I don't feel like doing anything. I am crawling my way into work and trying my best not to break down. I hope life truly is worth living.
I’d like to hear your opinion on euthanasia due to psychiatric conditions. It’s illegal here in the us but it’s available in places like Canada and the Netherlands
@@humancapybaras1301 I must confess I felt the same way 8ish months ago. I took myself to the emergency room and told all the doctors there of my desires instead. This eventually brought me to an acute inpatient psychiatric facility, where I told the attending psychiatrist of my plans for assisted suicide. He wasnt very happy with that, to say the least. I would recommend inpatient treatment/hospitalization as the next step for you, as it sounds like youve been experiencing suicidal ideation for quite some time. Since you are not actively suicidal, only passively, meaning you are not currently in the process of attempting to kill yourself, it is not a medical emergency. If you feel the desire to pursue your goals in this context please go to the nearest emergency room or call 911
@@humancapybaras1301 I respect the right to end ones own life. After my grandfathers wife of 50 years passed away, he no longer had a desire to live anymore. I eventually stopped preparing his blood pressure medications for him. He still had them, but chose not to take them. His daughter was also in prison at the time. I spent every single moment of every day with him for many years, & I know he still loved me. But, at 72, there was not much left that made him happy, other than his wife. So, he joined her. & I have to respect that decision as I am the one that allowed it to happen It still bothers me a great deal & it always will, as hes the only person I ever really cared about. Whatever happens to you, dont let it impact anyone else
Doctor,after severe ptsd I lost my will to live.Do you think there is hope for me and how can I find it back? My doc doesn't answer on this when I ask.
Hi Ann, In my opinion there is hope for anyone. I used to work in a VA clinic with many Vietnam combat veterans with PTSD. Various kinds of treatment can help PTSD. Peter Goertz
cause life was much better than it is now we were more happier and more fun important this days people mis behaive they treating u like were somekinda animals
Hey, I would like to ask you why did you become a psychiatrist? Did you feel like "hmm, this sounds interesting"? Was it your dream? Maybe you didn't find it interesting but you were good at it? Or was it for money? Did anyone force you? I'm new so I don't know whether you have already mentioned this information on your channel. Another question, can I become one while being an egoist and lacking empathy (I suspect the reason is a mix of depression and being a teen, hopefully not a long-term problem) but still being able to understand other people? For a long time my dream was to get accepted into a good high school which I managed to accomplish but then I realized I didn't know how to continue in life which made me develop extreme emptiness, laziness and I felt like I was the only one left behind while everyone else continued to pursue their dreams. Fortunatelly, not a long time ago I discovered my interest in this specific topic and my grades have gone up , I actually do some research regarding psychiatry and I feel alive again. However I don't know if this profession is fit for someone like me. Could you give me an *honest* opinion, please?
You’re not gonna know whether you w joy working in psych or not until you get experience. Also, some people prefer inpatient (higher acuity) vs outpatient (generally more stable patients) it’s a great idea to Shadow a psych RN if you can, or get a job as a psychiatric technician. This will expose you to patients.
Peter became a psychiatrist because he enjoys talking to people and he learns from them. I’m sure there are other reasons but it’s also good money. You could make $350-550,000/yr and similar salary as a psychiatric nurse practitioner (phmnp)
You really need to decide whether $200,000 of debt for medical school is the right choice for you. PMHNPs have the same privileges as a psychiatrist, with half the time spent in school and almost all of the salary
Psychiatry is a skill, so I would have to say he’s probably good at it considering he’s not accepting any new patients currently. I would recommend you research cognitive and affective perspective-taking. People usually refer to this as empathy, but it’s a much deeper connection when you can actually make inferences on what the person is thinking compared to what they’re feeling. It’s basically mind reading, which I have been practicing for a long time. I met a lot of people at the locked psych ward, and none of them liked talking to their doctors or therapists. They were all quite shit, imo. However I’ve been talking to the patients frequently and they seem to be improving. Al thought I am not a professional, I am just able to understand what they’re going through and read their minds a little bit sometimes
Again I’m gonna recommend you become a mental health technician & get some experience before you decide this is the field you wanna work in. You can also ask to be voluntarily admitted into an inpatient psychiatric unit. Behavioral health is usually working with patients who are more rambunctious than mental health. I prefer interacting with patients who are suicidal because they don’t want to hurt anyone. There’s lots for you to learn here and it’s important to find your niche
One perspective that has helped me a little bit recently is to accept mystery - accept that there is no way for us to know why we exist or if there even is a purpose. When I am able to remind myself of this, my attention seems to refocus on what needs to be done right here and right now. Like the dog needing to be taken for a walk. Needing to go to work. And like remembering that as insignificant as it is, I really do like feeling the warmth of the morning sun and the green on all the trees. It doesn't always work though. BTW, for context - I am a person who has suffered with treatment-resistant major depression, OCD and GAD for over 35 years. Hardly a day has gone by in all that time that I did not say to myself that I don't want to be here. I don't want to be here bc I want the pain to stop - sometimes even psychogenic pain. I don't want to be here bc my limbs are pinned to my bed by leaden paralysis. I am never not depressed, but I do have better days than this. I just need to ride it out and try the tools I've learned that have helped me in the past. Remembering to say to myself "remember the tools" is hard. As is, holding off on believing things are as bad as they are until I try some of my tools.
My story goes back too far to tell why and how I chose to live out my life. Many years of seeking, my purpose was revealed and I have always considered the darkest times of depression my greatest opportunities to grow and learn what I can, because they have given me wisdom, humility, compassion and insight. Unfortunately I am struggling long term traumas and loss, and the difficulty of finding my way back to living, rather than existing in my daily pain alone. But i do believe i am here to contribute, and unwilling to give up on that, even against all odds.
My idea about meaning of life is, that one can always find excuse to complain. And one can always find excuse not to surrender and keep fighting on. Its ironic how some people despite having all give up so easy, while others being as poor and miserable as possible, fight to the bitter end. History is full of events were people are starving and freezing, but despite all the bad still cling on to whatever they can.
Life is worth living because life is sanity. Life is the opposite of madness, and it’s the opposite of chaos. Life is not scary and the world isn’t scary either.
The problem is as a mental health professional you are forced by the constitution to be pro-life. If you don't oblige, you risk losing your license. If a patient has no interest in continuing to exist, it is the mental health professional and the government that takes the position as the arbiter of what is subjectively good or bad for the individual that is suffering. I feel it is a bit sanctimonious.
I think there's ultimately a purpose and whatnot and that it is worth living, but it's beyond us either at the moment or always. If you go back to the start of how does anything exist, it's ridiculous and impossible that any of it does - IMO I'm not religious but I think there's a creator of some sort, and that there's some ultimate thing this is all for - and beyond that, scaling back down to reality, forget all of the above stuff and just think, there are things you/I like doing and gravitate towards like our minds pull us to them, follow them, do your best, enjoy life etc, and maybe find out what's up with it all afterwards lol.
fpr does who are depressed no lets be greatful and be happy F them who dont bealive in me we also been in jails i been true hell we also grow up this is how unbalance life is lets put negativety alone concetrate on ur own goal and realety focus kiss ur love ones tell them we love u hate is awful hate give u us nothing but hate jesus didnt plan that humans its just u are not having a good day its all but sun will come
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 what a wretchedly irresponsible answer. Did you know that emergancy room visits increasw the odds of the person killing themselves? Are you a licensed therapist???
Life is hard so what, why is everyone in this comment section so afraid of suffering. You’ll find meaning in your life through suffering and it’s not like you’re being forced to live
Nice tone of voice... and that's it because the whole thing has COMPLETELY no resemblance to reality. When you are born sick. When you have not one but two chronic diseases (incurable, fatal). When life is (despite all the fears and struggles) a series of failures. When you have no one else to turn to... When life is nothing but pain, suffering and futility... it begins to dawn on you that life is worth nothing but 💩 and suicide (in such circumstances) becomes the "emergency exit".
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 Thank you for your concern. No, I don't have it at the moment and I don't intend to. I didn't want to upset, but rather present a different point of view (more real and, unfortunately, ugly, which, however, is much more common among people).👍
It would appear to me that life is about meaning. If they have meaning, then people can endure any hardship. But if you don't, then almost any luxury or comfort cannot give you satisfaction. The fact is, each person's soul is a unique concoction, made by God (if you will). But in this world, very very few people are able to find a way in which that uniqueness can co-exist with their life struggle here. That leaves most of us questioning whether we need to be here at all. If anyone could live my life, do my job, make a family, then what's the point of having ME do it? This is why we revere famous athletes, celebs, actors, etc. Because they have made something and do something that could only have been done by them. There is only one Angelina Jolie, or Lebron James or Eddie Van Halen. The rest of us feel quite interchangeable and pointless. This is where, in my opinion, one begins to question why we are alive at all. And I think that questioning is entirely natural and understandable. The only anwer any religion has is that God is mysterious. That doesn't really do it for me. Perhaps it does for some others.
I dont look to others as special or unique, i believe we all have the ability to live lives worth living by being exactly who we are, finding our innermost reason for continuing. It is a struggle for all of us to find that within.
Why 18 y/o boy life is full of pain? Why i need to face this much financial crisis ? Why i need to live ? Is it worth living this life? After these much trauma mental depression, my mental peace is ruined. How my upcoming days are gonna be with this shattered mindset. Idk. This situation should never happen to anyone!
Thank you for your personal comment. Please see a psychotherapist and a psychiatrist. If you are thinking about killing yourself, please go to an emergency room. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
as someone nihilist and deist. i don't believe in afterlife and i have lost my faith in my religion (islam), and now the idea of suiciding grows. i don't want to live this life. it's just what it is, i can't say i have family problems or i was traumatised or anything. i'm just done i can't visualize something on earth that makes me happy.
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 My point was to say that i don't want to live this life. i don't have any mental disorder or anything, i just don't want to live this life. i don't think theraoy would be helpful.
I noticed you referred to anyone discussing the 's' word as patients? How do you arrive at this label? Why is it so taboo to discuss these matters intelligently without people with false optimism gas lighting and shaming anyone with a more enhanced view of what it means to be "alive", and a difference of opinion.. . , The problem with anyone who operates in any Medical setting, is that they have no background in theology, philosophy, theosophy, or applied ethics. So they are in no position and are thus unable to offer a proper informed objective perspective..All current practices are founded in error and flawed logic, based on only assumptions. Monkeys trying to control other monkeys is rather funny. How many humans can answer the following:- 1 Do you do remember anything before you were born? Where do we get the notion that this is life, when you are dying/decaying via entropy from the moment you are "born"? 2 Who are? 3.Where are we? 4.When are we? 5.What are we? 6.Define life, Define death 7.What happens after we depart this body? It seems to me, that no one that i have ever met can answer any of these questions and have no authority to offer any advice to anyone. We run around repeating cliches and affirmations without knowing their true origins. From my experience the person sitting in their chair in a first world country has difficulty looking past their comfortable lives with a limited perspective on just how painful and difficult life really is...with 10,000 disease for humans alone..normal?..i'd say something is out of balance. Few people possess critical thinking and follow along with the bandwagon fallacy, again based on an error-in reasoning, assumptions, and faulty or no ethical insight, i.e Current ethics are based on a projection on profit and how good of a human resource one can be, how much you might consume.... Yes just because a 7 billion people suffer from psychosis, indeed does not make it normal.. (it is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society, culture or world) - Krishnamurti.
Please let me share my point of veiw . When you tknow the only true purpose for which this whole life was created and whole creation was designed , then we will find meaning , peace, and purpose. we can not find that unless we read God's last book that was revealed to humanity through the last prophet Mohammad Pesce be upon him. It is the book The Quran " in which you will fiind answers for all your questions about this life and the what came before and what will come after. in this book God speaks Himself.
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 I really do too. I just don't have many outlets, I have tried websites like Beyond Blue and I'm at the point where there's nothing else to turn to. I hate how people always want to recommend medications, I don't see why talking therapy can't be as viable. I've always had the belief if someone was homeless would giving them a anti depressant pill really change how they should feel.
Hi Sterling, I’m sorry to hear about your situation. If you have suicidal thoughts please go to an emergency room. Acupuncture can help with pain. Peter Goertz
what's the point to learn (suffer) a lot to finally not having any benefit from it ??? of course, as a psychiatrist you can't be against suicide. but what kills me the most, is when you include god at the end ... man, that wasn't a good idea, trust me ! you f.up your whole video with that s...t
Hi Jimmy, I am sorry to hear this. Please see a mental health professional as soon as possible. If you think of suicide, please go to an emergency room. I hope that things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 This is nothing to do with mental health, Don't you think billions of people suffering form similar related existential dilemmas, that there might just be something wrong with this world,?..that just maybe it's not humans that are the problem,..That this world was designed to be for suffering..?.Your point blank denial is astounding, and why do you feel sorry for him and not the world..i didn't design this world, neither did Jimmy there so, it's not "our" problem...right?
Short answer... no. long answer... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. LIfe is 100% not worth it.
