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Is Mariah Carey THE BEST Vocalist IN THE WORLD?? FULL CVSS Vocal Analysis + Live Vocal Range 

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ALL EXPLANATIONS BELOW!!! For specific questions, comment below or send me a DM on Instagram - @camden.epperson.
This is the sixth episode in my CVSS series.
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Episode 1: Lara Fabian • Is Lara Fabian the BES...
Episode 2: Morissette Amon • Is Morissette Amon THE...
Episode 3: Celine Dion • Is Celine Dion THE BES...
Episode 4: Lana del Rey • Is Lana del Rey THE BE...
Episode 5: Demi Lovato • Is Demi Lovato THE BES...
Episode 6: Mariah Carey
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1. Belted Notes
For a note to be considered Golden, it must be consistently "perfect" in the vocalists' range. They must be able to sustain it with resonance, and be able to sing it with resonance on a very consistent basis.
Golden: 3.0 points
Ringing inconsistent/consistently grounded: 2.5
Grounded inconsistent: 2
Free consistent: 1.75
Inconsistently free: 1
Tense: .5
Underbelts are notes that are ringing under the vocalists' starting note, and as Mariah is a soprano that means notes under G4. They can either earn 1 point for inconsistent resonance, or 1.5 for consistent.
2. Low Notes
Golden: 2.0
Full Fairly Consistently: 1.75
Inconsistently full: 1.25
Inconsistently free: 0.75
Tense/Airy: 0.25
3. Head Voice
Golden: 2.0
Inconsistently Resonant or consistently grounded 1.75
Inconsistently grounded 1.25
Inconsistently free 0.75
Tense 0.25
4. Whistle Notes
Golden: 0.3
Not golden but Musical: 0.2
Off-key: 0.1
8. Vocal Effects:
For each skill that the vocalist is capable of, they earn a point. If they are a master of this skill, they earn two points.
9. (Lack of) Vocal Issues: Here, if the vocalist has any major issues, they are deducted a varying amount of points from the ten given in this category.
10. Consistency/Longevity: If the vocalist has struggled with consistency in the past or has drastically declined from their prime, they will have points deducted in this category from 5.

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@spotsevigne2549
@spotsevigne2549 Год назад
she is such a phenomenal and skilled vocalist. but I think what impresses me most about her is that she's an actual musician. versatile and intelligent. because she's actually the one behind the vocal arrangements of her own songs. she's the one who says that there needs to be belting on this part, runs here and there, whistles to this, etc. and not a lot of other divas can boast that. she is a musician, a vocalist. the GOAT!
@KajiVocals
@KajiVocals Год назад
I do like the concept of golden notes. G3-E5 seems fairly accurate.
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Thank you!
@lukaradulovic446
@lukaradulovic446 4 месяца назад
oh so you agree about her golden notes right?
@ThePianoguy89
@ThePianoguy89 Год назад
Great video! I do think Mariah's golden notes are G3-E5. Her head voice seems to be consistent up to A5/Bb5. She's definitely The Queen of the Whistle Register. She is one of the all time greats. I just wish it would stop being this war and tension between all of the fans of the Vocal Trinity.
@lightning0506
@lightning0506 Год назад
​@Soiya Ririn Her musicianship is great, but unmatched? Hardly Also, what's the point of going so far, calling her "arguably the best vocalist ever existed"? Do you know how much singers out there exists? Mariah is popular, famous and her legacy is unmatched, but best vocalist? Definitely not
@levantineking98
@levantineking98 Год назад
@@lightning0506 well something that is objective is that most singers cannot do what Mariah can, but Mariah can do what most singers (if not all) can do. Mariah not only has a unimaginably large range, she has great control all through out it. A few clips on the internet don’t define an artists vocal ability either. And on musicianship, which other artist writes, produces, sings the vocal lines and Melodies as complex as Mariah’s? All while making the song an international hit with poet lyrics. With the transitions and jumps between registers AND octaves, runs, and all. All while sounding pleasant to the ear. Not many can relate. Mariah is UNmatched
@lightning0506
@lightning0506 Год назад
​@@levantineking98 You're stating things from fan point of view, that's understandable and as I already noticed, Mariah's musicianship is great, but using words like "unmatched/beyond the reach/no competition" etc = being narcissist and denying all the other factors which are just as important, I dislike that, cause it leads nowhere and you're not proving anything, all this is just pure emotions, which are hindering objective reasoning Let's be honest here: there're literally COUNTLESS singers out there and we can't possibly know them all, right? So, why do we think that Mariah is the best of the best when in reality you don't really know anything else? Maybe not you in particular, but in general, lambs aren't really into exploring new music, as I've noticed and it's sad, cause there're tons of proficient vocalists, songwriters, composers who are just as deserving as Mariah to be recognized, to be respected, that's what I'm talking about. Mariah herself is always acknowledging other singers and musicians cause she knows how that works. She took inspiration from someone and someone took inspiration from her, that's how music works basically for everyone, there're are no "best" or "worst" in this particular area of art Also, I can see you contradicting yourself. If a few clips doesn't prove anything - then why should be pay attention to CVSS, which is exactly this? Or this is contradicting only if talking bad about Mariah's abilities and when talking high about her - that's ok? Well, that's what I call bias I'm being a fan of Mariah for 7 years already and I actually know her music, voice, history, biography, vocal deterioration path (thing some lambs calling "voice evolution" which is ironic if you ask me), and I see no point in denying the truth? Do I like the way she sounds now? Hell, no. It's crazy how much her voice has changed since her prime years and it's not natural. And she has no intention in fixing it either, cause believe me, I know such people, they're gonna make tons of excuses and do some crazy efforts in order to LOOK good, but not actually BE good. That's some deep psychology, but I'm not gonna dive deep into this stuff here, it's barely interesting for majority of people. That's exactly what's happening with Mariah. I'm waiting her to BE a good singer, while she's trying to LOOK LIKE a good singer, when in reality it's all fake/lipped/dubbed vocals from like 30 years old, and she, honestly, doesn't give a single shit in order to sound good. She just sings whatever she likes and however she likes, and with such an approach it's not surprising at all people are mad at her, cause, again, they want Mariah to actually BE a good singer she used to be in the past, while she simply doesn't care for some reason Sorry for this rant, but I had to say it, cause somebody has to at the end of the day And what about production etc, you're again talking like it's only 1 and Only Mariah Carey doing this stuff, while in reality there're and were tons of people working with her, creating her image, teaching her vocal technique (when she actually took some lessons), keeping her schedule, producing her music etc etc etc etc, I don't think it's right to downgrade efforts of other people, which are just as important as Mariah's own efforts. Artist is always working in team, there're literally no exceptions, you simply can't do such great things alone I hope you understand my point, at least some part of it. If no - well, it can't be helped. I hope you will someday, cause, essentially being a fan = ignoring major part of disadvantages of your fav, which isn't right
@swingriah6537
@swingriah6537 Год назад
I think its G3-Eb5
@imNotZack_
@imNotZack_ Год назад
@@lightning0506 AND THE LORDS SAID PREACH TRUTH AND BE LIFTED
@jakobt06t.49
@jakobt06t.49 Год назад
I'd love to see a CVSS for SoHyang :) And this one is amazing!
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Thank you! I will have one up for her soon! I'm pretty familiar with her, so it would not take long to make :)
@dwindleblinks3231
@dwindleblinks3231 Год назад
Exactly 🎉
@confidentriah3406
@confidentriah3406 Год назад
Amazing video, we can't deny Mariah's technical issues but we also can't deny her talent and her great qualities that makes her my all time favorite singer. I found this pretty accurate, loved the video
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Thank you!
Год назад
Wasn't expecting a new CVSS video so soon! Happy to see it :)
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Thank you!
@kurtnecolecanete3217
@kurtnecolecanete3217 Год назад
YASSSSSSS THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!! I'VE BEEN WAITING LIKE A CENTURY HEHE JOKING 😭
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Haha hope you like it!
@benriveranav
@benriveranav Год назад
Wow! This Video Is amazing! I love it ❤
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Thank you!
@zhoevalencio8031
@zhoevalencio8031 Год назад
Never forget she is a legend and of course I have 23 years old my voice won’t sounds the same at my 52 years darling!!!
@lightning0506
@lightning0506 Год назад
That's a myth, with proper voice care and technique adjustment you can save your voice not only past 50, but basically up until your death with bare minimum of changes, saving your vocal range and consistency, there're quite a bit of examples. Mariah's voice is ruined and age is just an excuse at this point
@shadowcArey
@shadowcArey Год назад
@@lightning0506 A LOT, but NOT Mariah. Everyone ages differently. Some people look very old at their 70’s, but look at Cher! She looks like she’s around 50!
@joemelcruz6556
@joemelcruz6556 5 месяцев назад
It's really weird how some of y'all would treat Mariah's deteriorated voice as some moral failing on her part looking at the extent you guys will go to say that she's not a good vocalist 💀. A simple look at Mariah's life you will see how it's been filled with abuse and misery, I don't know how you could pin all the blame to personal responsibility when talking about her vocal deterioration.
@1Tom-D
@1Tom-D 4 месяца назад
Mariah's voice will never deteriorate, she matures like fine wine. The best vocalist ever.🎉❤
@addictedtovocals
@addictedtovocals Год назад
Wow!!! Nice job on this!
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Thank you!!
@vocalsvideos458
@vocalsvideos458 Год назад
Amazing work!
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Thank you!
@Mathdmd
@Mathdmd Год назад
I'm pretty shocked "If It's Over" vocals are only ringing fairly consistently. These are one one my favorites and they sound amazing. I truly believed it was a golden one. 😅
@raykkenmnc1555
@raykkenmnc1555 Год назад
TRUE! Those "if it's over" F#5 are her best belted notes, it's just that this person doesn't really understand how much those note were perfect , it's why I didn't watch the entire video , plus Morissette, better than Celine or Mariah ?? It's just ridiculous, Mori is incredible but not above the vocal trinity , EXCUSE ME !
@dandroiddoes3531
@dandroiddoes3531 11 месяцев назад
I thought the clip of it's over was just one of the great examples of her hitting f#5 but the rating of the note was an overall rating of all f#5s performed in her prime or at least that's how I interpreted it.
@olanrewajuogundipe5814
@olanrewajuogundipe5814 2 месяца назад
​@@raykkenmnc1555morissete in my best opinion has better technique to Celine by far , she his not heady while missing , she can growl , squeak , belt up to bb5 with chest , she his also not nasal while Celine cannot do all this In my best opinion
@raykkenmnc1555
@raykkenmnc1555 2 месяца назад
@@olanrewajuogundipe5814 BY FAR ?? EXCUSE ME...nohhh , dahhling. Everything is not about range and ease. Celine is heady , when she doesn't feel confident to hit a big note. But she executed perfect belting technic SEVERAL TIME. And also Mori could never match her mid belt. Mori is incredible but not on that level yet baby. Now let's take a look at Mori. Who told you she isn't nasal? Did you hear her upper belts. She is a high soprano but can't execute a perfect placement without using the mask giving that flat sound starting Eb5. Just see the difference between her Never enouuuugh (Eb5) ,,and those of Laurren , the original singer of this song. Also , celine's highest note in term of belting is a Bb5 PLUS vibrato. Now what , is she agile more than Celine ? Naahh. Squeak doesn't make anyone better vocalist. Celine doesn't copy anybody when she sings. While Mori do. So stop thinking that any singers from nowadays are comparable to the vocal trinity. And I'll repeat again. Mori is an amazing vocalist, certainly one of the best from nowadays. But don't compare a legend to some learners.
@kavyasriram7
@kavyasriram7 Месяц назад
@@dandroiddoes3531 It's because overall not all of her F#5's in her prime were as great as those if it's over ones. Honestly, even to say that her OVERALL F#5's in her prime were consistently grounded is a stretch because her debut era F#5's were so squeezed and tense and Anytime You Need A Friend F#5's at Hey Hey It's Saturday undubbed were also flat and pushed. Even her MTV Unplugged If It's Over F#5's were tense, and also Oprah 1992 If It's Over F#5's
@anghangin923
@anghangin923 Год назад
It will be interesting to see a CVSS on every decade (90s, 00s,10s and 20s) for Mariah
@trxian
@trxian Год назад
@Camden omg pls do this too
@rotta_rotta
@rotta_rotta Год назад
Amazing-Great-Decent-Bad?
@mar-ui2sr
@mar-ui2sr Год назад
@@rotta_rotta Not true at all, her voice was amazing in 10's as well.
@rotta_rotta
@rotta_rotta Год назад
@@mar-ui2sr Yes but not technically
@mesmereized
@mesmereized Год назад
@@rotta_rotta I still wouldn’t say bad. She still had good moments up to C#5/D5 in the early 10’s. She’s noticeably declined since around 2014 but I still wouldn’t say she’s bad. She has good moments up to Bb4/B4 and occasionally C5.
@Solo-vh9fm
@Solo-vh9fm Год назад
I think longevity should be scored differently depending on how many years you’ve been active as a vocalist as younger vocalists have an advantage here. It wouldn’t change Mariah’s score but it would give Celine a higher score than say Dimash
@MrFreyTV
@MrFreyTV Год назад
I’m done watching! Great job! Now, all I have to do to be entertained further is to come back to this video from time to time to check the comments section. 😆
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Thank you! The comments are my favorite part
@butterflysdaydream2944
@butterflysdaydream2944 Год назад
I love your videos!!!
@rundelletorres14
@rundelletorres14 Год назад
Nice New Thumbnail and Great Work for Vocal Analysis to Mariah Carey💖, This is True💖 Camden.
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Thank you!!!
@jozsefdorner5816
@jozsefdorner5816 Год назад
I think Mariah can sing all of those singers under the table! On her good days 🤭🤭 And maybe she can't have this " prime" voice vocals but she don't need to proove anything. She's done with the last 30 year of her career. But this is a list and your opinion. 🥰
@raykkenmnc1555
@raykkenmnc1555 Месяц назад
Thank you dahhling
@tasosGRvocals
@tasosGRvocals Год назад
Amazing analysis, great work!! Can't wait for Whitney and Beyonce!!
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Thank you so much!
@michaelsonortega2387
@michaelsonortega2387 Год назад
I can't believe that she doesn't have belt/mix above G5 , the fact that she has great tessitura in this area
@janveber5523
@janveber5523 Год назад
She has, but not live. But she has a lot of studio beautiful G#5’s and A5’s :)
@andretostesmusic4863
@andretostesmusic4863 Год назад
@_Just_a_random_dood_ Circles, I Only Wanted, The One, Make It Happen, I Wish You Knew, Yours and many more that I'm forgetting right now
@theresasmiles4107
@theresasmiles4107 Год назад
@_Just_a_random_dood_ "To Be Around You" has an A5 belt "Heavenly" has a B5 belt "Honey (remix)" [I forget which remix atm] has a Bb5 belt "Triumphant" has a Bb5 belt that's 1/2-way supported! "It's A Wrap" has a G5 belt "Here We Go Around Again" just may have a G5 belt, idk "The One" LIVE has a LIVE A5 belt!
@rundelletorres14
@rundelletorres14 Год назад
Can't Wait To Beyonce or Whitney Houston💖
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Coming very soon!
@johnpounders5314
@johnpounders5314 Месяц назад
SHE IS HANDS DOWN.❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊
@Sai_327
@Sai_327 Год назад
She has nodules, hello! She is one of the greatest vocalist of all time. When her chest voice is weak her whistle register is stronger. When her whistle voice is weak than thats good because that means her nodule aren’t big on that day. This means she can belt and sing freely. Bye the way the airiness is because of her nodules and her voice is basically naturally airy and raspy. YOU CAN’T COMPARE VOCALISTS WITH OTHER VOCALISTS BECAUSE ALL VOCALISTS ARE DIFFERENT.
@vitaliscarey
@vitaliscarey 8 месяцев назад
Incredible
@GarageStudio7
@GarageStudio7 Год назад
*CVSS is in a league of its own!* Even though it is subjective to a degree (eg. placing different values to registers plus different perceptions of the quality of sound production) it is the arguably the most impressive qualitative & quantitative means of assessing the vocal prowesses of various esteemed vocalists. I mean who else is even trying to assess vocalists' use of M3 (whistle register, flageolet etc.), vocal distortion, and so on. I appreciate how transparent and amendable this system is. For eg. If someone stated "Mariah has longer notes than 14 secs" or "Mariah has squalls", the system is like "Okay, provide the receipts?" It promotes further research/studying as well as lighthearted and entertaining competition among fandoms, kinda like watching your one's fave football player get ranked among other players around the world on a scoreboard. If there is a Worldwide Vocal Olympics in the future one day, I wouldn't be surprised to see you there as a judge..or better yet, competing 🏅 *P.S.* I'm pleasantly surprised that you found those dynamics from Mariah. If I find additional vocals from her for these categories, I'll link them.
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
That would be a dream come true! Thank you so much for your praise as well as your time watching the video. Always smile when I see your name in my comments! And yes, if you know of a squall or any other things that could improve her score be sure to send them my way!
@GarageStudio7
@GarageStudio7 Год назад
@@CamdenE It is genuinely my pleasure; after all, it is only the truth! If I find any more vocal feats from her, I will surely them your way.
@4cemils
@4cemils Год назад
Good job ! Thks !
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
❤️
@imNotZack_
@imNotZack_ Год назад
again no but lovely video indeed!!
@ColleenAdams-ei7np
@ColleenAdams-ei7np Месяц назад
In my eyes she will always be the best artist ever ❤❤❤
@johnpauldagondong2720
@johnpauldagondong2720 Год назад
do u consider mariah's F# and G5 supported or are they on the strained side?
@libiar
@libiar Год назад
Ok but that G4 belting was absolutely wig-snatching! She kinda really said "let's bring some Broadway in here" (though she's not even a Broadway singer lol) Oh, also, I guess I missed that in previous episodes, but why whistle notes can cost only 0.3 points by one???
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Because the range that whistles can cover is huge! Having them valued any more than that woild throw the balance off
@Ryan_K535
@Ryan_K535 Год назад
Great job! I honestly appreciate all the effort you put in these video analysis- it’s very entertaining and informative. However, I have to be honest and say that I disagreed on some sections, the main one being the lower register and some of the belted/whistle notes. I think some of the note qualifications are a bit subjective but after all it’s your scoring system, hence the name. 😅 This system is great and all, but in my opinion vocal technique can not be measured with points because we are talking about different voices, different circumstances, etc., but your efforts are definitely worth appreciation and applause 👏. P.S- I am pretty sure she has supported Eb3s and a C3 in Baron Investment in 2019. Additionally, she showcased the ability to crescendo once more in the same concert.
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Thank you so much! And I agree that it can’t be measured, but it’s still fun to theorize. And please send links! I’ll update accordingly
@Ryan_K535
@Ryan_K535 Год назад
@@CamdenE Lower register: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cS7MV7KBDV8.html There was another source of the same performance in MariahXLambily’s channel but for obvious reasons I can’t access it anymore. The problem with Mariah’s lower end is that most of her best attempts are in dubbed performances (Open Arms- 1996 Tokyo) which are either dubbed to fix quality or fix any belting/ higher end. I HIGHLY doubt she’s editing her lower register. I personally believe that she has the most developed and praise worthy lower register out of all the singers you’ve done for CVSS but as I said it’s your scoring system and I respect your decisions. Belting: I think F5 should be counted as a golden note- it is excellently executed besides of like 3/4 squeezed notes in her debut. Breath management: I understand the importance of sustaining. However, shouldn’t phrasing, ad-libbing, ornaments, transitions all be a part of breath management? I definitely think she deserved higher. Agility: In my opinion, Mariah is one of the few singers who deserves the full 10/10 agility score, the “magna carta” of mainstream melisma. Whistles: I also don’t understand why score something lower even if it’s “off-key”. She still showcased the ability to hit it. Overall, I just don’t understand why her range didn’t boost her score higher. She can extend both lower and higher ridiculously to the extreme- something that helped singers like Celine and Morissette in the belting section for example.
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
@@Ryan_K535 hey! Belting: F5 was never sustained so it can’t be golden. For breath management, it’s only about length. The rest of the things you mentioned are for other categories! For her agility, she is very great, but a 10 is saved for the few that are even higher. Mariah is very very agile and creative but a 10 is about impossible. For whistles I kind of feel like it’s pretty self explanatory that off key notes earn less. And her range did help her a bit, but she is t as consistent as the others. Her golden was (and I may mess these up, I don’t have them memorized to be honest) G3-E5, while Celine was E/F3-D5, but had more consistent lows and head voice and could belt higher, and Morissette is G#3-Eb/E5, but has almost the exact same range as Mariah and is more consistent in the other categories.
@Ryan_K535
@Ryan_K535 Год назад
@@CamdenE This is exactly why I think sustaining/length is overrated and phrasing/movement is underrated. Morisette and Celine prefer to sustain more while Mariah loves to move around, add ad-libs- just different types of singers. Why should Mariah get less points because of the way she goes about approaching her singing? I can’t think of a single person that can surpass Mariah in mainstream agility- only Tori and Beyonce can *match* her but I guess that’s subjective again. Consistency is not something she really could control or something that was negatively impacted by her technique. She always had a disadvantage when it comes to vocal health- but as I said this goes back to why you can’t really measure vocal technique with points because of different instruments.
@lightning0506
@lightning0506 Год назад
@@Ryan_K535 Just the way you put it says a lot about you being biased towards Mariah Sustaining isn't some kind of an "approach", it should be a basic skill for any vocalist. Mariah simply cannot sustain high belts/or high head/high whistles with enough consistency, which shows lack of vocal technique and development. Phrasing isn't harder than sustaining, it's a myth, it's actually the contrary. Mariah simply couldn't sustain high notes in majority of cases, yes, she preferred agility over sustaining, but she did it because she couldn't sustain notes properly, not because she just chose this way of the singing over the other one, it was obvious that her voice would break if she sang with this kind of approach. It broke anyways though, so whatever And also you're very wrong when it comes to her consistency, you can blame whatever you like, but it's HER voice and SHE ruined it for one reason or another, nodules, alcohol abuse, lack of warm ups, unhealthy lifestyle in general, but again, it's her problems. There're countless singers in the world with same or even more hectic schedule, yet they're succeeding in preserving their voices. Mariah simply couldn't, it's a fact, get over it, again, it's exactly why her consistency has suffered over the years - she simply didn't care and last performances showed exactly this, how can you make so much excuses for her and be blind towards her own mistakes? Basically all you're trying to say is: "Why did you put Mariah so low, she's my fav, she's the best of the best, it's unfair, I want to believe in her image of the Songbird Supreme, but you didn't put her this way, why so?"
@allykelly
@allykelly Год назад
Can't wait for Beyonce and Whitney 😍 and can you do Vivian reed or Lisa Fischer 😍
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
I’d love to!
@kavyasriram7
@kavyasriram7 Месяц назад
She's an incredible vocalist, but what impresses me most about her is that she's an actual musician. She's the one behind the vocal arrangements of her own songs and she's such a phenomenal songwriter and producer. She's the one who says that there needs to be belting here, runs here, whistle here, etc. not a lot of other divas can boast that. She's not just a vocalist she's a true musician, the GOAT!
@jozskukolto3598
@jozskukolto3598 5 месяцев назад
Yes she is☺️❤️❤️
@daokhoi814
@daokhoi814 Год назад
how about her falsetto and airy voice =)) she does amazing in this register, and you overlooked it. and to be a good vocalist, you have to have great musicality, which is Mariah's strong suit.
@NoName-pu1er
@NoName-pu1er Год назад
Falsetto is underdeveloped/collapsed headvoice in technical terms so it actually does more damage then good
@daokhoi814
@daokhoi814 Год назад
@@NoName-pu1er completely agree! but Mariah is a special case who has nodule. Her nodule her cord more comfortable when singing whistle/ falsetto/ airy voice than head voice
@negatron5514
@negatron5514 6 месяцев назад
Mariah, as a diva she is, is a musical genius. Her only competition is herself. Her diva persona, her insecurities, her nodules. But she's intelligent music wise. I wish she would let her defensive barrier and cut the divaness and would take someone as her apprentice to learn from her. She has great ear for music. She's right, if she knew the rules for music, most of the songs we love now may have not existed. Not only her songs, but also those songs others used her as blueprints.
@dededejereme2284
@dededejereme2284 Год назад
Very good joob camdem✌😎✌😎✌😎✌😎✌
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Thank you!
@zawmyothu8340
@zawmyothu8340 Год назад
I am waiting for full vocal rank leader board by CVSS System after you will have made analysis on most of the divas. It's one kind of taste.... plus I am rooting for vocal trinity, lara and Dimash.
@michaelsonortega2387
@michaelsonortega2387 Год назад
Now, it's time to make for Sohyang 😃😃😃
@goegemeente
@goegemeente 9 месяцев назад
WHAT ? on Third Place ? NO WAY !First Place always.
@dededejereme2284
@dededejereme2284 Год назад
Elle est tres tres bonne maria ... maria is very very good vocalist i love because her tone is soft " butter"
@peterteddy2370
@peterteddy2370 Год назад
What episode is Sohyang?
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Hope y'all enjoy! I want to hear your thoughts! If you'd like to help me make a CVSS for your fave, DM me @camden.epperson. Thank you for watching! Also I thought you should all know Mariah is my favorite vocalist haha, and Demi is my favorite singer
@whitneyhouston1122
@whitneyhouston1122 Год назад
To me supported range E3-F5-C#6-D7
@whitneyhouston1122
@whitneyhouston1122 Год назад
I JUST NOTICED THAT NONE OF THESE CLIPS WERE DUBBED!!
@StacyBells0806
@StacyBells0806 9 месяцев назад
she may not be the best, but her voice is the most beautiful.
@ervis6926
@ervis6926 Год назад
yes
@souigorferreira
@souigorferreira Год назад
❤❤❤❤❤ love Mariah
@lightning0506
@lightning0506 Год назад
8:18: Those aren't off-key, Mariah has sung Emotions in B maj back then, G# is within the key of B maj, F#7 would be better option though, cause it's a "solid" step of the B maj, which gives us "a sense of completion" (solid notes of B maj scale are B, D# and F#, so called major triad) 8:20 - Worcester one is a really sharp G#7 as well, and this one is indeed off-key, cause Mariah has sung Emotions in Bb maj, and G# isn't within the key of Bb maj scale Also your grades are a bit...random? How can you call a C#7 "non golden, but musical", at the same time calling a D7 golden, while in reality neither of those notes are really golden, cause they're very rare live, and C7 from Bringing On The Heartbreak was lipped. All of them were lipped actually, which is sad Neither crescendo, nor decresendo, you showed, can be count as such, with first case it was barely any noticeable volume increasing, like really barely, I wouldn't really count that, while in second case it's obvious Mariah is just leaning away from the mic, that's not what true decrescendo is, btw you didn't use "I'm Free" D5 as an example, I see, which is sad, cause it's still the best when it comes to actual decrescendo, yes, it was studio, but it's the best possible example we have 11:35 - I see no difference, the only difference is changed tessitura, for prime Mariah this B4 was a middle belt, for 2009 (I guess it was around that time) it was already a highish belt, cause of changed tessitura and damaged voice, but the approach itself is the same, you can call it "chesty" although that's not really correct way of representing things 12:18 - what about this section, oh boy, where do I start...First song of a tour vs the last song is pretty obvious that this point is not in favour of Mariah. During Daydream tour, for example, first song (Emotions) vs the last song (either AYNAF or AIWFCIY) was very obvious difference, tired voice was obvious, she was always raspy and dodging some notes at the end of the tour, same goes to first vs last date. Pick any, Daydream London date was a tired one, comparing to Tokyo, Tokyo vs Honolulu - same kind of thing, Antwerp/Milan vs Toronto (Rainbow Tour) - same thing, again, not in the favour of Mariah But I'm happy you didn't sugarcoated the truth about her ruined voice, I know that might be a bit harsh, but there's no excuse to such voice condition at any age, sorry not sorry
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
I’ll edit this comment as I reply to various parts! 1. D7 earns more because it is sustained while C#7 is not. For a note to be golden in whistle, I had to provide a sustained example. 2. As for the whistles and their pitches, I’ll adjust accordingly! Thanks for letting me know. 3. I didn’t use I am free because it IS studio, but it does prove she should get the point so even though the example I showed isn’t as good, it proves she CAN do it which is why she earns the point. 4. I may be in agreement with you about the B4. I tried to find a more even attempt to contrast the “labelle” B4 and struggled there, so I may update that. 5. The clips I showed weee her first and last song in her MSG concert, and the first and last charmbracelrt tours and after some listening she did seem to improve, but if she has a history of not performing to the same standard that can be adjusted as well. Anyways, thank you for watching!
@lightning0506
@lightning0506 Год назад
1)This particular D7 was one-time event and it's hardly was sustained, like 0.5 seconds, which is still impressive, of course, but as I said - lucky case, personally I wouldn't really mark as "golden" any note in the 7th octave, except maybe C7, cause she has quite a bit of sustained C7's in studio and some were hit live 2)Ok, glad I was able to help 3)Well, Mariah is mostly a studio singer, in order to use dynamics - your voice should be healthy and relaxed, which usually isn't the case with Mariah, cause when she's singing live - she's mostly either not prepared properly, or feeling sick/nervous which all affects her ability to sing live as good as she could (prior to voice damage) 4)And you won't find, cause there aren't any, even during Daydream era she wasn't singing "heady", it just bright voice, but essentially still belting 5)Believe me, MSG concert and Charmbracelet Tour are exceptions, also you used one of the best vocals (Hero from Kuala Lumpur), while in reality major part of great vocals during Charmbracelet Tour was during European leg of the tour aka middle, not the end. Also, don't forget that there were quite a bit of lip-syncing during Charmbracelet Tour (I have a video about it on my channel), hence her voice wasn't really as tired as it should've been with such schedule and set-list, it allowed er to rest
@dominikwawer8186
@dominikwawer8186 20 дней назад
In music it is not about how many golden notes a singer has. It's about the truth of the tone behind the lyrics and the interpretation. In this area neither Morisette, nor Celine are golden, but Aretha, Sarah Vaughan, Ella Fitzgerald, Whitney Houston, Barbra Streisand, Judy Garland, Mariah Carey and Maria Callas are golden, Mariah, with her incredible vocal abilities is the ultimate singer, especially in her upper register, where her golden pipes turn to diamond. Her tone is pure perfection and her voice is studied at universities. Having said that, all of her vocal imperfections have indeed contributed to her perfect sound, as she is a true musician, who understands her instrument or shall I say her orchestra, as she is able to sing in so many different colours and display sound unknown to people before her and long after her. There are many wannabies, but there is only one Mariah Carey. Comparing her to anybody else is simply silly and disrespectful, especially in her case, where her voice struggling with nodules remains elusive and is subject to constant change.
@Mommyyriah
@Mommyyriah 8 месяцев назад
Yes
@whitneyhouston1122
@whitneyhouston1122 Год назад
I think her sweet spot is from G4-C#5
@igroom1990
@igroom1990 Год назад
Whattt mariah has a heady mix in charm an iom
@jadalba9760
@jadalba9760 Год назад
So how I'm getting it is that it's better to get 80% correct in all the categories vs 150% in one category like lara, right? She is the most resonant on the planet outside of opera...
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
True!
@jadalba9760
@jadalba9760 Год назад
@@CamdenE is lara like too resonant? Is it excessive or unnecessary? Because I thought bonus points would be given considering how big her voice is.
@JoaoVictor-dt2py
@JoaoVictor-dt2py Год назад
@Camden Can't wait to Dimash and Sohyang 😍❤️
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Me too!
@spikulatifr326
@spikulatifr326 Год назад
is this repost? i remember u have already make this before.
@spikulatifr326
@spikulatifr326 Год назад
@_Just_a_random_dood_ no wonder..
@TheeeDanielR
@TheeeDanielR Год назад
MARIAH CAREY
@ChichkoParichko
@ChichkoParichko Год назад
Is this question
@andrewmacintosh3976
@andrewmacintosh3976 Год назад
Hi Camden - Why is Jessie J not in this analysis (and others you have done too)?
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
I will remake her video soon!
@andrewmacintosh3976
@andrewmacintosh3976 Год назад
@@CamdenE That's a relief........... she is outstanding. Your work is much appreciated. I can see the precision and dedication that goes into your analysis. Keep up the sterling work.
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
@@andrewmacintosh3976 thank you!!
@buatyangbelumtau2479
@buatyangbelumtau2479 Год назад
She's not the best. She's the Goddest.
@raffaelw.2767
@raffaelw.2767 10 месяцев назад
I wouldlove to see how vanessa amorosi ranks with this new system
@tasosGRvocals
@tasosGRvocals Год назад
I personally don't hear her early 6th voice notes as headvoice. Everything after that B5 was whistle to my ears.
@hoanganh9769
@hoanganh9769 Год назад
can you make another analysis on Sohyang(sorry for my bad English)
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
I will soon!
@patricia05124
@patricia05124 Год назад
What's the title of the intro song?
@DJQTUBE
@DJQTUBE Год назад
Mariah Carey ft Snoop Dogg "Crybaby"
@patricia05124
@patricia05124 Год назад
@@DJQTUBE tysm!!
@DJQTUBE
@DJQTUBE Год назад
@@patricia05124 You're welcome 😀
@Lejo2800
@Lejo2800 6 месяцев назад
The C6 in eurovision is not inconsitenly as you said I think It is very well excuted
@CPenner9
@CPenner9 Год назад
That decrescendo tho haha. Just took her mouth away from the mic essentially 😂
@celiniac
@celiniac Год назад
I thought the same-
@DaydreamCarey1234
@DaydreamCarey1234 Год назад
Waiy why is mori #1 in this cvss tho 😭
@JordonLee2003
@JordonLee2003 Год назад
ive been wanting to do a CVSS for myself but im way too lazy lol
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Ooo same
@JordonLee2003
@JordonLee2003 Год назад
@@CamdenE also i dont know think i can judge myself correctly
@imNotZack_
@imNotZack_ Год назад
girl you'd be racking up all the points lmao
@JordonLee2003
@JordonLee2003 Год назад
@@imNotZack_ I doubt that😅 I don’t think I have one golden note 😂
@theresasmiles4107
@theresasmiles4107 Год назад
Her lowest Note is F2!
@DanielleA2023
@DanielleA2023 4 месяца назад
Genius songwriter 🦋 Greatest voice ever ❤ Game changer and global icon 💯⭐🏳️‍🌈🇳🇿
@dave-tf8ov
@dave-tf8ov Год назад
Wait where is arianas cvss
@joshufart9120
@joshufart9120 Год назад
12:12 Mariah and Bryan r actually endgame😭😭💕
@sandhyanagarajan
@sandhyanagarajan 7 месяцев назад
In her prime, yes, she was the greatest vocalists of all time.
@johnj.kalachuchi6495
@johnj.kalachuchi6495 Месяц назад
There are so many vocal talents in the whole world, (some are famous globally, some are popular, and some that has not been exposed to much. In America she is definitely one of the best. Take note its very hard to select the best since people have their biases, preferences ,and favoritism, At the same time the singers do have their strengths and weaknesses also. So for me I narrowed it down to their other skills, talents and performance (Its like saying all of you are very good in singing, so what else do you have underneath?). When it comes to their having that total package 1) Lara Fabian 2 & 3) Mariah Carey and Monica Naranjo (I think Mariah writes better than Monica, but Monica sings and performs better than Mariah. they are interchangeable). Then among their generation (The singers of the 90s), In any order Celine Dion, Lara Fabian. and Monica Naranjo. The Criteria have two common names on their list, so the ones possessing the better total package is the choice for number 1 ..
@GarageStudio7
@GarageStudio7 Год назад
4:52 & 5:08 Please why aren't the 3rd octave leading down to the 2nd octave notes usually counted (especially considering that they have better quality).
@KajiVocals
@KajiVocals Год назад
What do you mean? I’ve not seen people not count these.
@GarageStudio7
@GarageStudio7 Год назад
@@KajiVocals It's usually not highlighted, most just focus on the 2nd octave notes at the end. Btw, I recall our discussion about the young vocalists ie. Faouzia, Jailen Josey etc. Have you heard of Gabby Samone? And if you have what do you think of her voice? (Whenever I ask that question, I can't help but think of Whitney's "What do I think of her?" response 😅)
@burci6186
@burci6186 Год назад
@@GarageStudio7 the C#3s sounds like she's air bending so wouldn't change anything
@KajiVocals
@KajiVocals Год назад
@@GarageStudio7 Yes, I know Gabby. Very good singer with almost flawless technique. She’s a very sweet girl too. Ridiculously high tessitura. True sopranino. Jonathan Ball is doing a good job training her. Well, yes. People focus on notes that don’t exist over notes that are actually there and with some quality.
@GarageStudio7
@GarageStudio7 Год назад
@@KajiVocals Ayeee, glad to hear that! She came to mind some days ago while I was listening to Whitney Houston's "All The Man That I Need" and I recalled our convo and thought "I bet he knows her/of her". You also answered my question before I even asked! (Regarding her voice type). Whose voice is the highest among these women (pls how would you arrange them): Amber Riley, Lashun Pace, Gabby Samone or Debelah Morgan I hope she trains and preserves that gift of an instrument she has. I agree, I've noticed that as well. Especially with vocalists who have vast ranges.
@rarevisionog
@rarevisionog Год назад
You Should Check out Giorgia Todrani. She's amazing
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Send clips! I will!
@rarevisionog
@rarevisionog Год назад
@@CamdenE some of here great singing moments ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zjlDfyeOZF8.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KPuAk9sA2bg.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SOVM5dz2NVQ.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ctG0T_GP0c0.html compilations ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1jS2ecRnGhY.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dOIE3WSOfUo.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TIZX8RXVlTk.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-w4iP-o8_94k.html
@YonceMimi
@YonceMimi Год назад
I love it!. Waiting for Beyoncé. ❤️
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Thank you! Would you be down to help me find the best clips for Bey? Or at least check the ones I pick?
@YonceMimi
@YonceMimi Год назад
@@CamdenE absolutely! Let me know which notes you chose
@andersonkoberstein8645
@andersonkoberstein8645 3 месяца назад
Shis is the best.
@agungsaputra9585
@agungsaputra9585 Год назад
SOHYANG Please
@mickoangelobanua6560
@mickoangelobanua6560 Год назад
Waiting for Whitney and Ariana.
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Same haha
@tinsajinovic203
@tinsajinovic203 Год назад
Can you please do Madison Beer her range is B2-Bb5-A6/B6
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
I’d love to! I don’t know her well though but if you make a template I will!
@tinsajinovic203
@tinsajinovic203 Год назад
@@CamdenE Template?
@tinsajinovic203
@tinsajinovic203 Год назад
Oh wait her actual range is C3-Bb5-Eb6(F#6)-A6(B6)
@tinsajinovic203
@tinsajinovic203 Год назад
In Studio A2-F#5-C6(C7)
@NekoPetrovsky
@NekoPetrovsky 6 месяцев назад
The fact that MA is even listed descredits this entire thing, delusional MA stan channel.
@CamdenE
@CamdenE 6 месяцев назад
Lol check my profile, Mariah is my all time #1 by farrrr
@ervis6926
@ervis6926 Год назад
those F#5 here fully supported
@ervis6926
@ervis6926 Год назад
and she has a fully resonant G5
@ervis6926
@ervis6926 Год назад
the B2 wasn't airy at all
@ervis6926
@ervis6926 Год назад
the D6 was a whistle ???
@ervis6926
@ervis6926 Год назад
off key ? lmao it was intentional
@allykelly
@allykelly Год назад
@@ervis6926 the B2 was overly darkened and airy lol it just has tone
@wilbertwilliams2306
@wilbertwilliams2306 Год назад
Beautiful ❤️ queen 👑 Mariah she is one of the best vocal of all vocalist at all times that is the reason why i love 😘her so much ❤️
@ekasulisno2274
@ekasulisno2274 Год назад
Mariah no 3 when no 1 just sing her songs
@markclark9239
@markclark9239 10 месяцев назад
Hi honey so beautiful looking great doing so 💗 excellent bless you ❤️ 💖 💕 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@Lejo2800
@Lejo2800 6 месяцев назад
Only someone like you can put morissete above celine and Mariah lol Anyway some of your score points were really debatable and so how do you chose your clips lol? Anysinger can have few and bad moments and if you only want to fulfill good clips or bad clips from any singer you just can.. So the election of the clips should have a very solid argument to be chosen and I dont see that... In the low notes the bases you use for qualifying are crazy... And you are wrong informed Mariah has sustained notes up to 18 seconds not only in belting but in whistle register not 14 as you said and live she goes up G#5 in many hero perfomances and in the song the one she reached her highest upper belted note A5 and all of that stuff perfectly executed (most of the time except her nodules days) Qualify the consistency in the time is ridiculous because Mariah has nodules since she was a kid due to her ignorance in that time until her mother started to teach her how to play with her whistle and her full voice.. She has told us that story many times and even tho she struggled many times against that it is still a disadvantage she is not really guilty of and has deteriorated her voice most than any other singer and even with that nodules, she perfected her technique during all of her career I mean she vocally evolutioned almost in every album she realesed and her technique was literally perfect despite those nodules... So with them or without Mariah of course is above 99% of best singers in history music and that includes morissete which no one can deny her talent but to ensure she is technically better than Mariah is unbelievable and I guess I am not the only one who says so 😊
@David-dh4sw
@David-dh4sw Месяц назад
Mariah is a legendary vocalists but Celine is still clearly better Hello fans from the other side
@Ale25784
@Ale25784 Год назад
and Laura Pasini? ❤
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
I’m not familiar with her tbh
@nguyentungduy8491
@nguyentungduy8491 Год назад
3/4: Does NOT Lip-sync - I Think, with Mariah you should add more "3/4: Does NOT use vocal dubbed"...LOL ....
@mjgaleos1994
@mjgaleos1994 Год назад
I'm excited for Tori Kelly!
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Me too!
@mjgaleos1994
@mjgaleos1994 Год назад
@@CamdenE I'm excited to see her score, gosh I can't wait hahaha
@whitneyhouston1122
@whitneyhouston1122 6 месяцев назад
Me and Mariah have similar tessituras. But she's still the better singer!
@user-ud1df5cm8t
@user-ud1df5cm8t 5 месяцев назад
What is her tessitura?
@NoName-pu1er
@NoName-pu1er Год назад
Not the best but definitely top5 at least. I would say nr1 would either be Whitney or Aretha
@kurtnecolecanete3217
@kurtnecolecanete3217 Год назад
She sounds more baritone than me wtf 😭💀
@KajiVocals
@KajiVocals Год назад
Nonsense. Baritone is a dark-voiced male voice.
@matilde219
@matilde219 Год назад
A baritone in E3-F2 doesn't sound airy, it sounds huge.
@ervis6926
@ervis6926 Год назад
@@matilde219 i can reach as low as Eb2 , am i a baritone ?
@matilde219
@matilde219 Год назад
@@ervis6926 I dont know. There are tenors who reach lower notes. But that is not the point. The type of voice is not defined by the extension, it is more related to tone, projection, control, comfort.
@lightning0506
@lightning0506 Год назад
@@ervis6926 Well, Mariah can technically reach an F#2, at least G#2 was 100% real, why tenors can’t reach an Eb2? Personally, I can’t really hit it in a chest voice, but my voice is above regular tenor, more like lower mezzo voice, my lowest notes, just tested, usually is an F#2, and my vocal cords just can’t stretch any further So, most probably, you’re a tenor, baritones usually have very manly and captivating voices, they’re usually described as “deep”, “charming”, “alluring” etc, while tenor voices are mellow, somewhat boyish, even higher voices tend to be slightly androgynous, but don’t use your range as a solid marker of your voice type
@meshuggepup
@meshuggepup 8 месяцев назад
no
@BunnyPlays651
@BunnyPlays651 Год назад
A Faouzia CVSS possibly, and definitely a kelly Clarkson one!
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
Definitely both coming!
@BunnyPlays651
@BunnyPlays651 Год назад
Yesss! How do you feel about Faouzia? Isn’t she amazing!
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
@@BunnyPlays651 she’s great!
@narmerjimz689
@narmerjimz689 Год назад
Yes ! Mariah Carey is the best vocalist ever.
@airbanks5754
@airbanks5754 Год назад
Morissette is better than Mariah???
@Gui-mt2wu
@Gui-mt2wu Год назад
U should have use some of her new notes…to people not say that she does only sing in the 90’s And she has A support d3 And when Celine has better belts and lows that Mimi??? Crazy video Not musical???? On the whistle bye man
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
The whistles were musical they just weren’t sustained! That’s all it means! And do you have a link? And Celine does objectively have better belts, as for lows Celine is much more consistent than Mariah so I’d say Celine takes lows, Mariah just has a low extension.
@Gui-mt2wu
@Gui-mt2wu Год назад
@@CamdenE Celine could go Dow the f3 when she was young and new support not up the D5 and she lipsyng since ever…as she do now…and morisssete does not have better belts, whistle, agility and lows that Mariah…and how she was up on top now??? Man people love to trying to Mariah dirty and the end of the day she still can sing…back at 2016 doing F5 and and 2020/2011 doing F#8….so with nodules and and more then 50 and still singing better that those girls will ever sing…
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
@@Gui-mt2wu watch their videos fully and you’ll see why. Morissette is a stronger belter than Mariah, but otherwise they’re very similar range wise, Morissette’s being slightly bigger. And morissette is more consistent.
@Gui-mt2wu
@Gui-mt2wu Год назад
@@CamdenE Celine at her best did support up the F5 she has like one F#5 Mariah 2016 has support up the E5 and she still support Eb5…Celine just do fake mix belt doing head voice with nasal placement
@CamdenE
@CamdenE Год назад
@@Gui-mt2wu that’s just completely not accurate. I suggest watching the videos I made on them. And this isn’t putting Mariah down, her score is very high. Anything above 100 is high.
@TaterTatiJillyBean
@TaterTatiJillyBean Год назад
30 yrs gets 1 pt for longevity?
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