Is New World Shutting Down? 

Do you guys think New World will still be around in 2025? What's your thoughts on the current state of the game?

I put a lot of hours into the game it was fun and has pretty amazing potential. It was 100% mismanaged, they did a few good things but for the most part they either blew it or went the wrong direction. Just needed a bit more end game and I’d still be playing.

At the end of the day, people have had enough of the lack of endgame content, slow updates, delayed updates ect ect,

RIP New World.

The insane level of poor management has allowed AGS to create a game that is basically 1/2 finished world of warcraft from 20 years ago. They took 3 years to figure out everything that was known about mmo's 2 decades ago. Combine that with a staff that seems to think they are supposed to tell their customers what they want rather than listening to feedback, and you get the biggest wasted potential game of all time. I will however give mad props to the sound department, story writers and art department. They kicked butt while the software engineers seemed to be on every drug known to man.

Players that are still playing the game are like the band on the TITANIC that kept playing the music while it was sinking 😅😂 #RIP

New World died for me on my birthday. I was running to one of the last few outposts, just doing some quests and close to lvl 60, and was kicked out of the game with the message I had been banned for cheating. After reaching out to customer support I was told 1) it was a _permanent_ ban, and 2) "I knew what I did". I ripped them a fucking new one and had a different rep reach out to me and say my ban was converted to 24 hours. It should have been scrapped altogether as I wasn't and had never cheated; this was when it was a known issue that people were mass reporting others to kick them. This game can go fuck itself.

Dungeons and Dragons online has solid endgame content, but they also have a reincarnation option. It let's you take your max level character back down to level 1. When doing this you get a small bonus like +1 to a ability score or a couple points in stamina or other stats. New world could easily do this and have a player base at every level

Personally, I just started playing a week or two ago and am hooked. I straight up love this game and pray it keeps going and hopefully growing.

Just under 2,000 hours in the game. I was part of one of the very first alphas when it was full loot-drop pvp with base-building and have followed the journey since. I'm sad that AGS just couldn't seem to get it right for this title - be that dev issues, exec issues, or a combination of both. The concept was so good.

What is really ridiculous about things like OPR is that the map was created during Alpha and tested by myself and others pre-release. And it has remained substantially unchanged for 3 years. I don't know what AGS' secret agenda was with NW -- I suspect data gathering and learning for its role as a game producer and perhaps for future games. Only something like that would explain how they have bungled NW - they must have goals in mind that focus on data gathering and testing user behavior and reactions, and DO NOT include creating a vibrant and sustainable MMO in NW.

3000 hours on this game. Some of the best times ive ever had gaming. I met so many amazing people that I still talk to even though I quit a while ago. Dont regret the time I wasted

3k hours played. Good game with incredible potential completely mismanaged at almost every turn by relatively inexperienced devs who only seemed to begin to have direction when it was too late. They spent most of their time remaking the MSQ over and over with each patch when the majority of their player based had already finished it and were crying out for end game content. Sad to see it go, but most of us just ran out of patience with this dev team's ineptitude. They have no business getting anywhere near the LotR ip. Unfortunately, they'll probably ruin that too.

Adding a pay DLC to a dying game, shows how much devs really care about the players..

I doubt they would be doing a complete overhaul of their combat code if they are looking into shutting down. There also were new features and raids datamined from the PTR. I think we've got stuff coming, but they're not ready to announce it.

@BagginsTV I'd be curious to know what game you are looking forward to as your next game. I imagine as a business you must be hoping for something you can move to so your channel doesn't follow the trend of new world.

he went on prime time on a good day to check player numbers lol, go check at any other time and its like 6k players, like right now (friday 15/match 11:29AM london time)

New World needs to seriously take a look at what they are doing with this game. 10 year old MMOs are pumping out content more consistently. Look at ESO steam numbers in comparison to NW, and then think about how steam is the smaller platform for that game. AGS is really letting this one get out of hand, extremely unfortunate.

Thx for staying strong Mr Baggins . I love new world . I still play every single day and it is STILL the best MMO that I have ever played .

Being a 37y.o. single guy that works but has a lot of free time , I can't imagine my life without NW. This may sound silly but it will take very long for me to love a game again. I'm a difficult person when it comes to this. Last time I felt that was with PUBG 6-7 years ago.

One of my favorite modes was invasions, it would of been so easy for them to swap up the waves spawns etc, randomize the corrupted, lost or angry earth as the attackers but it never changed except for the spawn times that one patch speeding things up a little. Give the owners of the town an option to make the invasions harder e.g. mutated it could of been great end game content. Sadly they never updated invasions in the couple years I played the game for :( Such a great game with so much potential, so much low hanging fruit has been ignored.

I have thousands of hours into this game as well. I really enjoyed helping new players through tough dungeons for their first time. Now, I can solo everything and the players that need help manage to die to basic mobs. I could get past this but when I get kicked from the game constantly.......... Too much frustration for me, it's just not worth it.

After more than 2 years after launch the main end game activities revolves around running in zergs looting over world treasure chests, so yes, the game is trash. No raiding, no swimming STILL in a water themed MMO.

What I didn't like was I hit a brick wall as a solo player trying to get involved in end game. I had no idea what to do regarding builds and end bosses, I did ask for help and there was none forth coming. It's probably not New World's fault, it's just the way I play. I was hoping this would be so good as I did actually play in the alpha and the beta.

It's sad that you have to make this video. The twitch clip of you getting Vengeance was such a happy moment and it was fun seeing it.

I always loved your content Baggins, i can imagine the pressure you are under due to your job depending on this game. Would love you see move on to Season of Discovery and Ashes later this year :)

I came back and am having a lot of fun its just there's not much new things to do

We need new OPR maps and modes with meaningful rewards. That alone would be a HUGE boon to the game.

You are spot on with your suggestions! Easy wins for little effort... it will still be sh#t talked, but everyone will love replaying the content with updated loot tables. It gives the end game more variety - all re-hashed content. But enough that it will not get stale so quickly, because there would be many options.

I have never played a game with so much unrealised potential. It's depressing.

The loot tables. Not only from Trial, but from everywhere! OPR, arena, old chest runs, Pools, Zygorament etc. It's that simple

Lord of the Rings MMO is gonna be another Scot Lane banger for sure.

Just recently started and having fun so far to level 52 but without a mandatory subscription or PTW cash shop I'm not sure how much new content can be expected for the flat rate entrance fee. I definitely see me getting my moneys worth grinding to level 65. It's very odd to see players on Steam have 1000+ hours in this game and then rate it 1 star because now their bored now. What's wrong with finishing what you want to do in a game and then finding a new one to play?

I do think they made a conscious choice, knowing full well the blowback and impact on dwindling player base, to focus on components that needed upgrade and/or implemented for console release. I do hope that this foundation building that is going on now will reap rewards for us down the road. But like you say, it's also completely possible that they will shift their sights on the LOTR MMO and leave New World in the dusts of Brimstone.

I hope you find a new mmo or game to love and invest in.

I will never ever touch a game again, where AGS is involved.

Been genuine and a killer creator from the jump bro. Hope you stay happy and healthy.

Today you don't even need to gather people together to complete dungeons, there is a solo version of it with the same boss and its mechanics (ex. Isabella). The team is preparing the game to work as a single-player game as well. In the future, Invasions will spawn enemies proportionally to the amount of players taking part in the event and their equipment level, whatever it is.

The most painful part of this game's downfall is the crazy potential it had and how a company with so much funding fumbled THIS bad. Its so sad

Man this game could use some Single-player endgame content

Unfortunate situation. It is a good game, mainly in its PvP playability. However, the final experience of the game is extremely limited, which affects enjoyment.

THE big problem i see is all the big missions require groups of players and there are just too many who like to play solo. like now there is nothing to do while waiting for the next update.

I quit because I didn't want to pay for mounts, in fact if I had known from the start this is how it was going to be I would of saved my money.

Needing to grind different gear to different game types is a pain in the ass

This game had so much potential. What drove me and most of my friends away was the many exploits that went unpunished. Also, the company system that profit on the taxes of each territory is flawed, in my opinion, is a system that makes the rich get richier and i dont think its fair or healthy.

If they just addressed PVP that people been screaming for years for it wouldn't be dying the way it is but they have actively avoided even talking about it. At this point ill be happy if they sold to another company who can actually do something

NW is a game I enjoy the most when it's a fresh server release, then you have lots to work towards. Imo, they should create some fresh servers that reset after a set time. Maybe they should even try some HC PVE servers. I would at least play it more often, but deffo not continously

Thank you for all the videos and honesty!!

we need a raid! a 8-10 boss raid like every other MMO with 2-3 levels of difficulty! We need something to sink our teeth into and log in for several days of progression! I have over 10k hours in WOW and other MMOS they all have raids!

hopefully, this slayer code will speed up and improve AI development, new bosses in raids and expeditions

Great content as always!

Controller is a huge accessibility tool. It's very important for games have controller options as 25% of gamers use accessibility settings or tools. They should have implemented it a long time ago.

What really fucking aggravates me is how they say A LOT of the player base has been asking for controller support when it is complete BS. They are preparing for console launch, we are not Fing stupid, stop lying to excuse why you make the decisions you make AGS. Say it straight up, hey the actual community that plays on a daily basis has been asking for new opr maps, cross world arenas but that is irrelevant to us and we are bringing controller support to prepare for console launch. When Scot starts any sentence with the community, I already start fuming.

6:17 simple answer: people get bored and wait for a new content update and go play other games that very hyped in the current season like Palworld or Helldivers 2..

I think the only realistic (and imo probably effective) solution would be to go the GW2 route - have the base game as a f2p demo sorta thing (it's even similar in that you don't get the mount and certain classes/weapons without expansions and such), and if players who wanna see what it's all about, but consider the price to be too steep for merely wetting their toes, decide to keep playing - have them buy the expansions. Hell, even an expansion bundle could be offered, although that's something corporate would 100% shut down, since they even went back on the base game+expansions $10 off offer

If there really is that much overlap between new world and the lotr mmo, there will not be major content updates outside of the one planned for console release. Theyll cash in on console then move on to lotr and continue their focus on structural elements that transfer to other titles that they have planned.

What happened to Wars and that PVE Defense mode? Does people still do it?

I dunno. The player base in new world seems to be split into two categories. Players with thousands of hours who are max geared and those who have a few hundred hours or less.. The maxed out players are bored, and the min hours are tired of getting stomped.

I think buying a demo of the game, and then realize you need to buy the rest of the game on the paid DLC is something that drives new players away, it was also what drew me away, I bought a full game, and couples months after came DLC that turned my purchase into a demo game, and I’m very sad about it cause I really enjoyed playing the game with my friends, but none of us came back after the DLC…

I love this game. Having a great time.

The Problem with New World is that Amazon hired Developers that never trully played an MMO... this was clear 8 mins after starting the game for the first time... how do I open the inventory "WHILE RUNNING"... and then realise that it was impossible... checking mats for a quest u were doing... impossible on the go, u had to stop... So the reality is that they never actually played an MMO or their own MMO.. and it took them a year and a half to put this feature... Then Mounts... who da fck makes an MMO with no Mounts??? if you make no mounts, you give them gliding wings to lift you up in the air and then glide, give the players a way to move faster. That fear that the initial map is not big enough to make mounts a thing, will make you lose a giant base of players... when you have to grind and go out there to farm.. you want to go faster... Mounts even if they are a low 20% speed is something... someone said that 300k people stopped playing(at the beginning) because of having no mounts.... they could have enlarged the maps a bit and put some mounts... and mounts have been introduced so late, like 2 years too late... and only 3 types of mounts with color variations... wtf... lol WIth that said, then we go to the slow introduction of dungeons. An MMO needs around 4 to 8 dungeons a year... because they are content... But when I was playing hard, I had to go to a new dungeon and farm the gear from that new dungeon to get the special resistances to do the upper harder levels and that killed me a bit inside everytime... players in MMO they don't want to have different sets for PVE in dmg... I am ok with the profession sets... different ones... but for dmg and dungeons, is a no no... with gems was good enough to reduce some school of magic, or fire dmg etc but they were putting more than one dmg modifier... Then you have the ability to set up different sets of gear which they did but this arrived too late and they even put it behind a paywall... this should have been a feature from day 1 if they were planning to force us to have different profession sets and later on different PVE sets plus a PVP set etc.... Transmogs... This feature was implemented also too fcking late and they slapped a paywall on top to screw players... all MMOs have this for free as they have so much content that a paywall on transmogs is an insult. So they have implemented Paywalls and things they should have or at least not a 5k coins on some paywalls... The problem with moving items when using portals was too expensive, and from city to city the same. This was fix in the last year or so, but it made it tediours for the original big player base to do stuff... to a point that people were forced to run from city to city to save Azoth... and with no freaking mounts... but they cheap cost implementation and no cost to from any city inventory to any other city inventory feature, came also too late... then the 500 different items limits on city or personal inventory that was stoopid also. Bugs with items placements inside houses... and long loads and stuck in houses... that wasn't fun... So this game has suffered from incompetent game developers that never played an mmo more than a few hours and even this/their own mmo, as a decent player could have told them all this... and yes we did... back then we did and because they never played MMOs, they never realised how this would tank their game... A New MMOs has to have, Inventory check while running, Free Transmogs, Free management of Gear sets, Mounts from day 1 or week 1. More new dungeons every yearly. Items transport problems. And PVP problems, which no need for me to go over this at this point lol. Well this is my take on why the game failed and why it could have been saved if the developers actually played MMOs... at least if they were forced to play 6 months of WoW like the owner of FF14 did with his developers... maybe this Amazon developers needed a full year of playing a true MMO like WoW, so they would't kill their own game with incompetence... Yes this game 3D quality is good and volumetric lightning effects are great.... but many armor sets are not fun, they are like old crap with a twist but too lame and no exciting for players to go after... they should have hired a South korean or japanese artist to make their armor sets... as many are lame... Sry for the typos... :)

My god, baggins from the culling!!!! Glad you’re doin so well! We fought many times in that buggy game!!!

Thank you for the well inform update... The game looks interesting might take a look into it but doesnt look like a long time game for me

Hopefully they just delete

I’m a returning player that played about 3 months over a year ago and worked my way up to M10s. I quit because there were so many people trying to do M10s that weren’t geared for it, then blamed other things (including me), when they died. My last game was a healer in luck gear blaming me for their numerous deaths. I came back and after a lot of frustration (I got moved servers and couldn’t play with 2 friends that weren’t moved for some reason, game crashing 100% of the time with the expansion), I stuck with it and have been grinding to get gear for builds, started PVPing more, and it’s still impossible to get consistent M3 groups without waiting forever. If only I could get 4 friends to come back, grinding M3s and improving is so fun.

I stopped playing when I realized that I can't farm Orichalcum, that I have to go all out with all the bots for it, and when I ended up looking for parties for dungeons, where I found out that you can't play what you want, you need a certain speck and certain items to be taken in the party.

Tbh bought it way after launch had some fun hours around 40. I just love running around and gathering etc. in games lul. When the expansion came i bought it logged in and was bugged under the map then logged out insta and just uninstalled.

I haven't played New World in a month and have no incentive to come back and believe the only reason Baggins still plays is because it's his bread and butter. There's no way for him NOT to be bias. I don't think anyone not playing it for a career would still be playing it at the end game for so long, where literally no content exists. 1. No focus on endgame 2. No update to Worm raid 3. Why didn't AGS make thematic OPR maps and modes based on every zone in the game? 4. Why did they never release black dye again? 5. Why no ability to save full transmog looks to apply all? 6. No Multi-boss raids New World is the single most mismanaged MMO I have ever played, and I've been playing MMOs since 2001. I've played and GM'd for MMOS, I've released popular UIS for WOW, I've run guilds, I've done it all. From Anarchy Online to WOW, RIFT, DAIC, EQ2, LOTR, FFXIV, and more. Do not @playnewworld. Copy pasting old content into new will not bring people back. Updating the Worm will not bring people back. The only thing that will bring people back is a MASSIVE expansion with all the features we've felt have been missing or broken for the past 2 years. Yes I believe Baggins ultimately wants people playing because it's how he makes his money.

i really wish they did more with this game. i stopped playing early after the season 2 release and really dissapointed that not much has changed as far as content goes

I agree the lvling experience is amazing, i come back every few months just to do THAT with a different build. Just a shame the lack of endgame content.

NW will always have a special place in my heart but what the devs did to their game (or rather didnt) is condemnable

Had so much fun on here 🥲

Personally i hope it goes free to play with the seasons and possibly a early access to content for premium users it could explode in popularity again, plus a bit more content like monthly quest patches it would improve the game releasing a large quest in small parts, possibly also making it possible that when new large expansions get old they become free with the new expansions purchase

Wow, when I saw the video, I could only agree with you on so many points. In my opinion, you could easily reignite the fire by: Offering New World as free to play (base version, possibly up to level 50). Releasing the game with controller support on consoles. Providing solo dungeons as endgame activities, as well as adding the Sandworm at the current endgame level. Introducing Cross Server 3vs3, perhaps with an additional ranking feature like many other games already offer. In this way, with very little effort, you would have created enough incentive to bring many players back into the game, and with the accompanying "Seasons," resetting the leaderboard (similar to how it's done in League of Legends), there would be enough to do to perfect one's equipment.

The level 1-60 grind right after release was one of the best mmorpg experiences I’ve ever had. Post-60 had so much fun fall off. Came back for brimstone and was fun for probably a little less than a month. Because of that, I haven’t bought the new update. I’m concerned it won’t be worth it.

Played 1.3k hours on sutekh and had so many good times and memories, but i think everyone eventually experienced ags dropping the ball majorly at every turn and update it felt like. Such a shame as the world and atmosphere can be so breathtaking sometimes. Cant see myself returning to this one sadly.

Fantastic potential, I'll always say that the first month or so was some of the most fun I have had in an MMO. Running around with your companies in big open world PVP was class. It wasn't even the lack of end game content for me, I could've waited for that. But the gold duping bugs and the invulnerability bugs. Damn shame, game was amazing.

I only have about 1300 hours in new world spread among the years it has been around, which is not a lot at all compared to some but even so its probably favorite game. even when I dont want to play it (which unfortunately is a lot of the time) I still keep up with everything that is going on holding out hope that it will pop off again. The potential the game has to be one of the best MMO's out there makes video titles like this one extremely painful and frustrating. Big thank you for keeping up with the new world videos and trying to keep things alive.

I wish there was 100% random world boss spawns that you could call out in chat that required communication. There’s so much potential for the game.

I think the biggest problem now for New World is the expansion. There is no longer any point of an existing player returning if they are not willing to invest in the expansion! So it doesn't matter any longer what they do, they have reduced their player base to those who bought the expansion, this will obviously get worse on the next expansion as player numbers drop again, they are racing to the bottom.

I purposefully exited asmons video to watch the original, cool vid

mannnnn since realm royale baggins has seen soo many worlds die. it's a curse to be such a legend OG!

Feels like neworld is the warmup/ beta for the lord of the rings mmo

March 25 2024 current player is 7,921 in game as of 9pm Asia time

I've quit twice once right after Brim and again recently after the dlc (paid) I just don't see the future in general and the slow drip/delays of content has 90% to do with it. The game had good bones but imo an inexperienced team versus the hype and NEED for a top teir mmo

Wake me up when they do something to end game but i'm glad to see they still hold on to their principles on delaying seasons.

My buddy has a disability that doesnt allow him to play on a keyboard and mouse, but can use a controller. When the game launched he had a way to use a controller and make his own layout, and then Amazon disabled it making it impossible to play on one any longer. 19:35 Just dumb decisions

used to play a lot but my pc cant run the game anymore and i cant upgrade atm. so i was forced to quit sad to see this happening

I absolutely loved the game at launch. I played for 3 months and realised that my server and guild were dead. I came back for brimstone and the expansion. Well see you guys in 5 years for the LOTR mmo.

I'm 40 years old and New World was the worst gaming experience I've ever had, just to compare I played No Man's Sky at launch...

I tried to get back to NW with the latest expansion, but looking at the world map with 10000 things going on, and no clue what to do, i quit again. Damn, the first month of new world was great. Sad.

This game has one of the best potential, sad they are sooo slow to add new content and upgrade the game

I dont see how a studio, even one being back by amazon, can work on two mmos simultaneously without starving either one of content for a long period of time

I love the idea to make all the story boss fights repeatable with max level 65 difficulty.

I thoroughly enjoyed my first playthrough of New World. On the other hand I realized I needed to quit when it felt like to truly enjoy it, I needed to schedule my week around the big events. And for most people that just isn't viable. And that's not saying the big events weren't cool, they WERE and that's why I felt left out when I had to work an unconventional work week. The systems and class diversity was def awesome, but when a game feels like a job, I just can't at this day and age and most people probably feel the same.

played the game competitively for years but the lack of content and late nerfs / pvp bugs fixes just pushed me away. The game is going to see itself in a vicious cycle of dying on the lows (no new content) then followed by a small boom of players when they finally release new stuff. You said it best, there is a hole draining the player base that is just getting bigger.

It was the original LotR MMO that AGS was working on that was later cancelled that got me interested in New World. From day 1 of NW I have always hoped it would make the LotR MMO a better game. If we take the things NW got right and apply them to LotR then that game will already have an amazing start. Story in NW has always been lacking and they won't have to come up with a foundational story for LotR because it already has a rich history. I still love NW but I'm definitely looking forward to seeing the LotR MMO teasers and eventually playing it someday!

Ranked cross server 3v3 would make such a difference

Archeage is closing very soon fully at 27th of June. Thanks to AGS, worldwide population dropped to around 5k-6k sth... EU servers are 3 and only around 3k-4k players active online most of time currently... Soon, New World is going to close soon too. AGS does not care or listen any feedback or what players say and there is no solid roadmap for long term. Instead, AGS says that without New World there is no new LOTR mmorpg. NW players are laboratory test subjects for new LOTR mmorpg, AGS has abandoned New World already for new LOTR mmorpg...

my problem is the level cap i can't afford the expansion so it makes it hard as a solo to fight level 65 mobs to finish my quest