I’m surprised so few people don’t bring this simple verse 1 Corinthians 1:8 8 He will also keep you firm to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. I don’t hold myself, He Holds me.❤ how can I lose?
@@theodoreritola7641 I agree, God kicked Adam and Eve out of the garden after their sin to keep them from eating from the tree of life saying if they ate of it, they would live for ever. Genesis 3:22-24. John 6:51,58, both say the same, the tree was a shadow of good things to come, instead of the tree, we now have the bread of life to eat of and live for ever, but in a reborn spirit, not a spirit that is dead in trespasses and sins. And you are correct about the blood, we are washed in the blood and made white as snow. Blessings.
Amen brother!!! No big surprise that continuing in the faith and not being moved away from the Gospel is essential for spiritual growth and to be presented before God as a mature Christian.
Your teaching gives me hope. I always use to feel super condemned whenever I fall and stumble. Surely this teaching is the truth because I feel true hope for me and my family
He’s reading the surrounding verses which give context, something we all should do. 3 rules of real estate are location, location, location. The 3 rules of Bible study are context, context, context!
Once saved always saved is the highest level of satanic deceit amongst Christians. It is total nonsense. And the those who propagate it think that they glorify God in doing so.
"Maybe we wont, maybe we will"😔 the bible says we need to bold on the day of salvation. There should be no doubts in our mind, that the gospel is the truth.
Glad u cleared that up as always brother 🙏 need real men of God like you in those debates to defend the word . .this guy didn't know how to respond to that question and made the opposing side look like they were correct 🤦
Believers and non believers can believe 🤦 what I thought he was getting at there was anyone can believe, but if they are not one of the elect, then they’ll still go to hell, cause they don’t/won’t continue. Doctrines of demons.
@@Philip__325 I've watched and listened to him a good amount. He comes across to be as a generally humble guy, often acknowledging his own numerous shortcomings. But he also believes--like Onorato--that he has a duty to convey what he believes God is teaching him. Not liking what he says and not liking him need not be equated. By the way, while Onorato makes the case that Colossians 1:23 isn't referring to eternal security, I'd still recommend taking a close look at the context it brings forth. The prior verse desires that Christ present everyone "holy and blameless." I get the distinction Onorato makes elsewhere on that, but isn't it understood that by a believer being washed and made pure by the blood of Jesus going to automatically make him or her "holy and without blemish?" It may well be that the creator of this video is right on target on all he presents. I certainly hope he is! But it's so utterly vital that all of us need to really take a deep dive and be sure. Our eternal well being depends on it.
Bingo! Man wants to contribute something into it so there is pride. There is 0% boasting of us going to glory, all praises, honor and gratitude goes to Jesus Christ our Lord and God. Those who say it is too easy to just believe in Christ Jesus are really saying... I want to CONTRIBUTE! Jesus AND me! That leads to hell. Either Jesus alone for eternal life and salvation or then hellfire
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1 John 2:19
This seems like the only thing truly repenting people from attacking osas but it seems like it in the same book there is harder things to understand like 1 John 2 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ³ And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. ⁴ He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. ⁵ But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. ⁶ He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
Amen 🙏 brother in Christ ✝️ God bless If born again brethren’s in Christ like us who had faith in the finished work of our Lord Jesus Christ (The Death, Burial And Resurrection Of Our Lord Jesus Christ) no longer have faith in the finished work of our Lord Jesus Christ then born again brethren’s in Christ like us are still saved and still have our Salvation (Eternal Life) because 2 Timothy 2:13 in the Holy Bible(Word Of God) says 13. If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
Your wisdom is very beautiful brother, I get heavy persecution for preaching the true gospel of Christs love and grace being sufficient, I refuse to be offended by the name of Jesus.
That's funny, I have been leaving this passage of Colossians 1:21-23 to defend the faith. I never thought of the emphasis being put on "if" but more on "faith , grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel. " When people have their heart in a different place, it can make quite a difference . We need to pray for them. Good job by the way 👍 God bless you
Oh yeah, another Christian brings up a bible passage that says 'those who endure until the end will be saved'. A street preacher also said that a Christian is not a dinner and he said other things that I can't remember. That is what I saw recently.
Hebrews 10:22, Let us draw near with a true heart in FULL ASSURANCE OF FAITH, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
I can see how the non-Calvinist would live in doubt, since they're saved by their own action/profession of faith, but how does a Calvinist live in doubt? If you had to succinctly describe your theology and doctrine, how would you describe it? The term "Calvinist" is just a way of describing one's understanding of certain doctrines in Scripture, and a refutation of Arminianism.
@@jtbtdlkt2012 Seems the opposite to me in that all the non Calvinist has to do to be saved is to believe on Christ and His work on the cross, while the Calvinist has to add one more caveat which is ‘was I chosen? Who knows! R.C. Sproul a famous Calvinist asked his church to pray that he was saved when he was near death. In an interview he said he was 99 percent sure that he was saved. I have placed my faith in the Gospel we read in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, and I can absolutely say that I know that I’m saved. I believe Jesus and His words in John 6:47, Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on Me HATH everlasting life.
@@Adam-gm5tm seems subjective; I can't speak to R.C.'s comment (since I've never heard of him saying such), but as for myself, I can rest assured that God has chosen to save me. Not because of a prayer I said or because of a decision that I made, but because of the faith He gifted me with and the repentance He gifted me with; these as fruits of what God The Holy Spirit is doing within my heart.
@@jtbtdlkt2012 You can’t be a hundred percent positive that you have been chosen, when according to Calvinism most throughout history were not chosen. I mean, the odds are not good for a Calvinist, because the Calvinist must also believe/hope and assume that they were chosen to be saved, while believing that most were not. All I had to believe was the Gospel we read in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4; and I was sealed with the Holy Spirit of Promise UNTIL the day that God redeems me as we read in Ephesians 1:13-14. Who needs the extra burdens that come with Calvinism?
He is able to keep you from falling and present you faultless. He who has begun a work in you will complete it. We are not saved by works but by faith lest any man should boast!
There is a difference and separation of tares and wheat which are mixed together in the churches. However the distinction is regarding the spiritual seed, tree, fruits that the "kind" will produce. These fruits result in a saintly, holy and godly way of life, but the false planting can also give the outward appearance of godliness, holiness, and righteousness. Like the Pharisees who were like whitened sepulchres outwardly beautiful but inwardly filled with defiling corruption. The difference is between those who have God's holy Spirit and those who have received a deceiving lying spirit of the devil.
It is a rhetorical statement. What paul is saying is that the only way you can lose your salvation is to unbelieve what saved you in the first place. That points it right back to what Jesus did for us, not what we do or dont do in our own lives. I fear for this man when he kneels before Jesus, cause it doesnt seen as though he has his complete trust in what Jesus did for him.
What is similar to Brown and Miller is that both actually believe in perseverence of the saints. Brown believes all can be saved but you must persevere in faith and works to be saved and go to glory. Miller says if you do not persevere you were never God's own to begin with. Both MIX Salvation with service or positional righteousness in Christ Jesus with our daily living. They MUST STAY away from one another as much as a son is always his parents' son but he has now a true freedom of the choice to use his life honorably for respecting parents or disrespecting his parents. What frustrates me is so, so many believers get this FALSE dichotomy, that you must either be for lordship salvation(and most folks in that camp are calvinists) or then an arminian. That is like asking me who'd have a white t-shirt on this: is the clothing I am wearing a red t-shirt or white jacket? Well, it is NEITHER. One has the color correct, the other has the clothing type correct. The same is with arminian and calvinists: arminians habe correct that Jesus died for all and we have true freedom of the will but they are WRONG on loss of salvation, then calvinists are right on eternal security(altough p of tulip is simply legalism in disguise) but they are wrong that Jesus only died for the elect.
I don't know why so many stumble over these verses....its not difficult.....The concern here is not a loss of salvation, but of God's punishment on those who willingly rebel against His will. Hebrews 10:30 says "The Lord will judge His people!" They are still His people! HELLO! That does not mean they go to hell or lose their salvation; it means that God is going to punish His people IF they willfully rebel against Him.
So good. God bless and thank you, so many nuggets for me. I have these conversations often with brothers I know and love, but think Like Dr Brown and are unsure of eternal security
There is a very simple problem with the dogma of “once saved, always saved.” That problem is that it is just not biblical! The truth is, the dogma of “once saved, always saved” is part of the doctrines and commandments of men. Consider Matthew 15:1-20; Mark 7:1-23 → Galatians 1:6-20 and II John 1:7-11!
So, you are of the belief that Jesus got it wrong when he said we are saved eternally. 1 John 5:10-11 says we are calling God a liar if we don't believe he gave us eternal life, how long is eternal. John 6:51, 6:58, both say we will live for ever.
@EugeneHolley-rc6ry John 15:1-6 - Notice that Jesus makes it very clear: IF you abide in him you are saved. IF you do not abide (i.e., continue to remain) in him you are lost. The most important thing to note is that our salvation is conditional not unconditional. (Consider just some of the conditional statements of Scripture from the Gospel and Epistles of John and the Book of Revelation: John 6:51; 7:17,38; 8:31,36,39,42,51,52; 10:9; 11:40; 12:26,47; 13:17,35; 14:15,23; 15:6,7,10,14 … I John 1:6-10; 2:1,3,15,19,24,29; Revelation 2:5,10,16; 3:3,5,20; 22:18,19; etc.)
@@kac0404 You need to look again at John 15:1-6, it does not say you are abiding and then stop abiding, it says one man abides in him and then in verse 6 if a man does not abide in him. They are not the same meaning as one abiding and then not abiding. John 6:51 is only conditional by either believing or not believing, verse 6:58 says it this way. This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eats of this bread shall live for ever. Jesus is the bread, and he is the Word that we feed on 1 Peter 2:2 the milk of the word that we may grow thereby. Genesis 3:22-24 Jesus was the tree of life that was a shadow of good things to come. John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life: and they shall never perish, never means at no time shall they perish, be separated from God in hell. If it was conditional, then it would not be considered a free gift, not of works as in Eph. 2:8-9. Jesus did not say if we abide in him we are saved, you added the part about being saved, our faith is counted for righteousness, not our works. Romans 4:1-8.
if you do not continue in the faith it shows you never were a born again believer ,there is a type of belief that is not a saving belief (even the demons believe and tremble) this is why we examine ourselves to see if what paul describes in romans chapter 7 is at work in ourselves that cause us to cry out ,what a wretched man that i am
I believe that is because they both came from the same source, RCC, Calvin was a Catholic and so was Luther, they both end with a works for salvation false gospel. Our faith is not to be in either camp, but in Jesus the savior of the world.
One person is reading the text, the other is reading into the text. One is presenting the text plainly, the other is doing intellectual gymnastics. I go with Occam's Razor. The simpler reading to the text is usually the right one. I don't think the Apostles were writing in code or wrote letters for only qualified theologians because what Corey Minor is saying is not obvious in the text.
So since we we're dead in sins and trespasses until the Holy Spirit quickened us, does that mean we go back to being DEAD again if we don't continue in the faith. UTTER FOOLISHNESS!
Conversion doesn't happen when you say the sinner’s prayer, it begins when there is repentance and belief in Jesus as Lord (Romans 10). Colossians 1:21 addresses many who think they are Christians but they actually aren’t, however, with time they could become christians if they continue with the faith and forsake their old ways. You may be forgiven but you have to believe and confess Jesus as Lord, confession is easy but belief is not. So you can't lose your salvation, people who go back we're never converted because when you truly are, you genuinely hate sin and love God. Instead of debating whether you can lose salvation, we should be looking at what are the marks of a true Christian and prayerfully asking the Holy Spirit to help us grow in the areas that are wanting.
So IF we don't continue in the faith, we're not presented faultless? Is it that we are faultless through Christ, just won't be presented as such? ...IF we don't continue?
What I would have asked to counter Browns question after say I know I am eternally saved is what do you need to do to be saved? Brown needs to be set free, praying he will get woken to a dream of his error.
Like most people he is using that verse out of context. Paul is talking to those who were questioning his apostleship because the false teachers were saying that he was not a legitimate apostle. He wasn't commanding them to "examine themselves to see whether they were in the faith." He was saying, "if you are questioning whether I am legit, you have to question whether YOU are legit because I am the one who preached the Gospel to you and you believed. So, if I'm not legit, neither are you." He goes on to say, "Don't you know that Christ is in you, unless you believed in vain." In other words, if they have the Spirit it is because they believed the Gospel that Paul preached, which means they are legit as well as he. Biblically, there is no reason a person should "examine" whether they are saved or not. If you believe the Gospel, you would believe you HAVE eternal life.... HAVE PASSED from death to life. Just like you can't be UNborn physically, you can't be UNborn spiritually. The Bible says that whoever is born of the Spirit is born of incorruptible seed that lasts forever. Believe the promise, or perish.
What I can understand between the debate is that it is Arminian vs. Calvinism. The old guy (arminian) is saying that we can loss our salvation if we don't continue in faith. He is saying that by works and perseverance, we can maintain our salvation. The other bald guy( calvinist) is saying that if we don't persevere in our faith, then we don't have the faith in the first place. He is basically saying that if we don't have works or perseverance in the faith, then it was never Faith in the first place.. Lets put it to the context of marriage : The arminian guy is picturing DIVORCE( meaning they are married but now separated.) The calvinist guy is picturing ANNULMENT( meaning they were never really a married couple in the first place) .... All these confusion but I thank God for the wisdom he gives and the truth he is continuing to reveal. Also thanks for this Channel for also helping me be clarified about the truth of God in his word.
Corey says things that sound strange to me. Maybe I don’t understand things correctly but I believe that a true believer can "leave the faith" I do think there are warnings in scripture for believers to stay in the faith but I do not believe that if someone leaves the the faith that it automatically means they are not saved or were never saved.
This is true, I’m recently understanding how much hurt a “teacher” who doesn’t rightly divide the truth bring. Thank God for the truth. We are free in Jesus!
Colossians 1:21 - 23 This passage is for the believers in the Judgment seat of Christ which is for rewards ( BEMA Seat judgement for believer ) . Its not for salvation, continuing in faith is for rewards and notice the word from Paul " whereof I Paul am made a minister"............Once saved always saved
the first question that Michael asked he used the word If..There are four meaning to the word if in the Koine Greek. If and it's true,If and it's not true, if maybe it's true land maybe it's not. and the last is If wish it was true but it is not . They don't know this
Brother that was excellent bible exposition Matt 7 speaks of false professors at The Great White Throne judgement they did not do the will of God John 6 40
I feel like I often dont agree fully with any Christian. Im pre trib, believe once saved, always saved, and i believe in the gifts continuing. Even in the big groups that agree with those points those denominations often have some legalism still or have strong feminism. I feel closely related to older charismatic denominations or even early calvary chapel before they stopped practicing the gifts as openly
What are the rewards though? Do we get a nicer house in heaven if we do good works? If we’re saved but sinful and don’t do good works do we live in a cardboard box in some street corner in heaven?
What about the Holy spirit does He leave you when you sin.I think when these debates comes up nobody really ever mentions the Holy spirit.How do you really loose your salvation.If sin now do i loose my salvation and i do how do i get it back again.If i do get my salvation back and i sin again after say 2 hours do i loose my salvation again .Im sorry but i disagree Jesus sacrifice on the cross was enough for me
@@toddstarkey6820 James is 2 about christian LIVING, not testing if you have true faith. Romans 3 and 4, a man becomes righteous by faith APART FROM WORKS OF THE LAW. 1 John 3 says sin is transgression of the law, stopping sinning is going by commandments of law. Jesus is our righteousness, NOT Jesus PLUS how we live our lives. If you even dare to imply some works-based idiotic salvation then keep your mouth shut and READ THE BIBLE IN CONTEXT!
There are many scriptures that say We must repent…Like this one…. Acts 20:21 - 21 I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus. This can be confusing is it repentance and belief or belief alone in Jesus Christ?
Both of those guys are off. The guy on the left is right about the verse speaking about believers, but he is wrong to interpret it in a loss of salvation context. The guy on the right is right about the believer not being able to lose salvation, but is wrong in his interpretation of this verse, as he also thinks it has to do with salvation. He is also wrong in his belief that every true believer will not fall away.
When we are save we are new creation....why new creation..because the old creation is corrupt and under the Course of sin In the new creation we are Alive and we are perfect
You are misinterpreting the passage in 1 Cor. 3 - it has nothing to do with living a sinful lifestyle. Compare 1 Cor. 13 with this passage to properly understand what God is explaining to us. You can do a lot of works with ungodly motives, but when they are tested by the fire of Gods judgment they will be revealed, and many people will have no reward aside from their salvation (which is obviously amazing enough!)
Dr Brown was on the attack as a dogmatic sage while my other brother took a Calvinist approach. so unfair debate siding on you can forfeit your salvation. May need to get someone like Louis Scott or someone that can not be locked into a mainstream doctrine like Arminian or Calvinism.
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This scripture is not talking to a believer specifically it is explaining the gospel telling the people that if they continue in the process and believe the gospel which they have heard it does not say and believed we are not saved by hearing the gospel we are saved by believing the gospel he is speaking to someone that is in the process of going from hearing to believing
And what is our faith our faith is we hear the gospel and then we believe the gospel and we are saved that is the process of our faith you cannot have believe in the gospel without first hearing the gospel
If the scripture would have said the gospel which you have heard and believed then it would mean what this man is saying but it doesn't say that and that's exactly why it doesn't you cannot find believed in that
5:02 Game over. He completely contradicted his own self. So does the vid creator. Pretty much every verse he reads to try & prove his interpretation, completely proves the exact opposite. They're arguing semantics w/ small & topically insignificant words.
Another misunderstood passage that Dr Clown misrepresents in his feeble attempt to discredit eternal security. The Word IF is not a hypothetical . It is an assumed fact for the sake of this conversation. ei (followed by any verb) expresses "a condition, thought of as real, or to denote assumptions" (i.e. viewed as factual. for the sake of argument) (BAGD). Accordingly, 1487 (ei) should not be translated "since," but rather always "if" - since the assumption may only be portrayed as valid (true, factual).Bible hub Greek scholar Dr Kenneth Wuest sinks Dr Clowns house of cards: “The word “if” here is not ean, an unfulfilled, hypothetical condition used with the subjunctive mode, presenting the possibility of a future realization, but ei with the indicative, having here the idea of “assuming that you continue in the faith.” That is, continuance in the gospel as it was preached by Paul would show that the person was saved (Ed: Same thought in 1 Cor 15:2-note = "by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain.") and thus would be presented holy, without blemish, and unchargeable before God. That is, Paul was here addressing truly born-again Colossians, not unsaved professors of Christianity who would follow the Colossian heresy. Heretics would not so be presented, only true believers. It is not the retention of salvation that is in the apostle’s mind, but the possession of it that would be shown by their continuance in the gospel. Expositors says; “This is directed against the false teacher’s assurance that the gospel they had heard needed to be supplemented if they wished to attain salvation. (Wuest's Word Studies from the Greek New Testament: Eerdmans ) In view of the fact or in light of the fact, IF AND I KNOW YOU WILL CONTINUE in the faith, GROUNDED (Perfect tense), firm and steadfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard.
Thank you Bro For the clarity gained by your research.. Onorato brought the clarity of rightly dividing the word but you have shown how things can be taken wrong in the translation from Greek to English.. I appreciate your diligence ...😀
If a person actually believes deeply that Jesus paid it all on the cross by his blood and is relying on that alone for salvation/eternal life, then they will never not believe it. If a person thinks they could lose that eternal life found only in Jesus, then they are not actually a gospel believing individual. The words of Jesus himself, God in the flesh, said "I am the way, the truth, and the life" SALVATION: To clarify the gospel of our salvation: Our gospel that saves us today is to believe that Jesus died on the cross, shedding His blood, was buried and rose from the dead for the forgiveness of our sins. I Cor 15:1-4. That's step one. Step two: We must put our trust in this gospel for the forgiveness of our sins and nothing else, to be saved. It's that simple. Jesus did the work necessary for our salvation. We cannot. Paul puts it this way: Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, True salvation only comes when we believe that Jesus is our ALL SUFFICENT SAVIOR. We cannot add anything to His blood shed and work of salvation on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins. We are not saved by repenting (turning from sin), being baptized in water, walking an aisle, saying a prayer, confessing with your mouth, being “born again”, or following Jesus’ earthly ministry. Those are mostly "works" salvation. We are saved by grace, not works (Rom 11:6), through faith alone, in Christ work on the cross. It is a gift 100%. Rom 3:24 KJV Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Titus 3:5-6, I Cor 15:1-4 Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. He came to save sinners, not people trying to make themselves righteous by doing some kind of good work, getting wet or turning from their sins, they cannot do totally anyway. Simply believe and put your trust in the new gospel Jesus gave to Paul for us today to be saved by. Then start reading Rom - Phil to understand what was written to us the body of Christ, so we could know what God wants from us and who we are in Christ, once we are saved. The books Paul wrote are the only place we find the gospel that saves us today. Then read the rest of your bible that is FOR us but not TO and ABOUT us. 94% of the bible is TO and ABOUT Israel, yes Israel. Don’t steal their mail and try to make it yours. And don’t be fooled by people who tell you, you need to do some good work to be saved or to stay saved or to prove that you are saved. That is not the gospel for us today which is a free gift of GRACE when we believe and trust in what Jesus did on the cross for our sins. Eph 2:8 KJV For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Eph 2:9 KJV Not of works, lest any man should boast.
@@lchimenz I ain’t reading allat 🤣. Btw works are REQUIRED for salvation (John 6:28-29)KJV believing is a work according to Jesus. That verse began to lead me out of free grace. Repent!!!
Hi brother, I don't mean to bother you again. I am still very concerned regarding my salvation. I have been suffering from addiction on and off for years. I had some very bad things happen to me and I didn't handle them well to say the least. My faith has only grown because I have truly learned that Jesus Christ is my only hope. I have let myself down many times and Jesus hasn't. I like to watch different channels and learn new things, but I have learned that this can be dangerous if I watch the wrong teachers. I know the best medicine is reading the Word of God for myself along with prayer and fasting and I have been making progress. I came across a channel recently called Bible Study 101. He says that 90 something percent of churches are lying to people. I don't think he is too far off. He says that if a person is truly born again they are freed from sin completely and that the Word of God says that plainly. He said Jesus Christ died for our past sins. He didn't die for our present sins or future sins. He says we are not supposed to be sinning or living for the flesh, but by the spirit. I think Allan Ballou teaches similar to him. I know I am not free from sin completely and from what I'm hearing I am fearful. I do fear our Father in Heaven! He has the power to do what he wants to any of us. I apologize if I sound like I am being tossed to and fro. If I could just overcome my addiction I don't think I would have any doubts regarding my salvation. Thank you.
SALVATION: To clarify the gospel of our salvation: Our gospel that saves us today is to believe that Jesus died on the cross, shedding His blood, was buried and rose from the dead for the forgiveness of our sins. I Cor 15:1-4. That's step one. Step two: We must put our trust in this gospel for the forgiveness of our sins and nothing else, to be saved. It's that simple. Jesus did the work necessary for our salvation. We cannot. Paul puts it this way: Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, True salvation only comes when we believe that Jesus is our ALL SUFFICENT SAVIOR. We cannot add anything to His blood shed and work of salvation on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins. We are not saved by repenting (turning from sin), being baptized in water, walking an aisle, saying a prayer, confessing with your mouth, being “born again”, or following Jesus’ earthly ministry. Those are mostly "works" salvation. We are saved by grace, not works (Rom 11:6), through faith alone, in Christ work on the cross. It is a gift 100%. Rom 3:24 KJV Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Titus 3:5-6, I Cor 15:1-4 Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. He came to save sinners, not people trying to make themselves righteous by doing some kind of good work, getting wet or turning from their sins, they cannot do totally anyway. Simply believe and put your trust in the new gospel Jesus gave to Paul for us today to be saved by. Then start reading Rom - Phil to understand what was written to us the body of Christ, so we could know what God wants from us and who we are in Christ, once we are saved. The books Paul wrote are the only place we find the gospel that saves us today. Then read the rest of your bible that is FOR us but not TO and ABOUT us. 94% of the bible is TO and ABOUT Israel, yes Israel. Don’t steal their mail and try to make it yours. And don’t be fooled by people who tell you, you need to do some good work to be saved or to stay saved or to prove that you are saved. That is not the gospel for us today which is a free gift of GRACE when we believe and trust in what Jesus did on the cross for our sins. Eph 2:8 KJV For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Eph 2:9 KJV Not of works, lest any man should boast.
"What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, And whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin." "Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; but for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification." Romans 4:1-8, 23-25 KJV I strongly encourage you to read all of Romans. We are saved simply by placing our trust in the sacrifice God made for us, paid for in Jesus's blood. Salvation is not of ourselves or our deeds. " For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV bible.com/bible/1/rom.4.1-25.KJV
@@lchimenz I know it's not our good works that save us, but if we are living in sin, we are talking about bad works. Our sin separates us from God. We are told not to live according to the flesh and to crucify our flesh daily. Jesus said, go and sin no more.
@@patrickpalacio2047 Please don’t listen to the folks that claim that “94% of the Bible isn’t for us” or that it’s like “reading other people’s mail.” (Or who teach the nonsensical idea that Paul taught a different Gospel than the other Apostles) Paul, writing to the church in Rome consisting of Jews and Gentiles, stated this: “For whatever was written in former days was written for our instruction, that through endurance and through the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.” Romans 15:4 ESV Also Paul, after describing the example of the Israelites in the wilderness as a warning to Corinthian believers (another ethnically mixed church), wrote: “Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.” I Corinthians 10:11 NKJV One cannot read the NEW TESTAMENT writings and miss the copious references to the Old Testament Scriptures. The Apostles assumed these still were authoritative for the CHRISTIAN CHURCH (made of Jew and Gentile) and the earliest Christians afterwards believed the same. There is ONE BODY and ONE BRIDE. Also, regarding Paul’s teaching, he wrote this as well to the believers in Rome: “Therefore, brethren, we are debtors-not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.” Romans 8:12-14 NKJV
What's going on here Michael and Corey are both lordship salvationist. Corey says he believes in O S A S but he absolutely 100% DOES NOT! He believes you cannot lose salvation as long as you don't sin. His mind is totally twisted and he will twist yours also if you aren't aware of his deception. He is truly one of Satan's most faithful helpers.
No, he is a wesleyan arminian which is plain english means Brown believes Jesus died for all of people's sins, a man becomes righteous by personal repentance and faith in Christ Jesus, but a saved individual can forfeit his or her salvation
So you choose to follow the traditions of men, whom came after Christ, even though we have a clear example of simple and pure faith saving a person in Luke 7, as was confirmed and stated by Jesus Christ himself. "And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace." Luke 7:50 Christ didn't say to her; now go and live your life under the demands of the law, or anything resembling that. Christ told the woman her faith HAS saved her, and to go in peace. Christ did not put any additional burden on the woman. Christ declared the woman was saved because of her faith. He did not go on to lecture her on how she should live out the rest of her days in order to stay saved. Christ simply said, "your faith has saved thee". But if you want to follow men instead of God, it's certainly something you are entitled to.
@@RobertoWatches I know our Father very well. so the sarcasms need to cease. WE are "saved IF we continue in the FAITH> IT is not a one time confession, but a lifelong walk with God.
OSAS is what the Bible teaches. How else would you explain this verse. John 6:39-40, “And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”
@@dhgii what about the verse that says in the last days, some will depart from the Faith? or Apostates? meaning they were saved but abandoned the Faith? You wont have a good answer for that. enough of this arguing. I hope you make it.
How do you explain Ephesians 1:13-14, Ephesians 4:30 and John 5 and 6? Holy Spirit is given UNTIL the day of redemption which is defined in Romans 8 as glorification of our bodies. If you are for loss of salvation you HAVE TO deny Ephesians entirely because then Holy Spirit is within you and with you until you go "deep enough" into sin and do not repent and loss of salvationists insert. Whatever is "enough", so salvation in that soteriology is Jesus PLUS us not living in sin. Same as roman catholicism just a more subtle form of it. So then the Spirit is not with you until the day of redemption, so by definition you don't believe the Bible. You are in unbelief. Also, Matthew 28 and Hebrews 13 says God will never leave us or forsake us. Loss of salvationists say Spirit leaves you if you do not repent of some long term sin in backsliding. So God is gonna be with you only if you don't remain in sin? Guess what, we ALL sin daily. That leads to sinless perfectionism and focusing on man over Christ
@@NikoFinn How do you explain the fact that OSAS is a new doctrine. OSAS is a man made doctrine. Where did the Bible come from? A KJV Baptist only-ist church. OSAS is garbage and false.
