"When to be Scared You're NOT a Genuine Christian"  

Amen!

@@Controle9165 "Unbelievers," in the context of Luke 12.46, just means servants who didn't think the master would come soon. In other words, he will get his portion with the bad Christians. It's not talking about non-Christians.

We are part of the body of Christ, we are not slaves.

@@Controle9165 I read that we are children of God and part of the body of Christ. Also, we are His bride, fully redeemed. I thank God for His plan, and for Paul's teaching.

​@@denisekay4292amen. Unfortunately most new bible translations use the word slaves instead of servants and teach quite a bit of works based ideology through bad translation.

Amen Shawn.

Yeah, but not everyone who claims it is a believer.

@@arcguardian that is not for man to judge

From what I am gathering by these clips of Mike Winger, Mike is talking about his point of view about someone else claiming to be a believer. Mike does not know, I don't, Ono does not, you do not, know the true heart of a person. We can guess and we can feel certain or not about it, but on the outside, there are many folks that we won't know.

@@danielkim672 you can get a good estimate by hearing what’s in there heart. For example where I use to work when ever I get a new coworker and I found out he was a believer I would make small talk and then to proceed ask him/her why is he going to heaven and I would let them talk and I would just listen and observe. Scary part is nine times out of ten they would all say well…because I go to church, I read my Bible, I’m a good person I try to do the right thing I pray everyday. I haven’t heard anybody in person reply back saying because Jesus died for all my sins and I’m trusting in him. It’s just a lot of (I do’s)

Amen.

The relief 😮‍💨

so when you sin do you repent or even that is a work? because my salvation is secure but i still repent bevause the Holy Spirit living in me admonishes and corrects me

We can't go based off of our feelings. Sometimes you feel God near sometimes he feels far! But he is always there. Our feelings go up and down fast.. God is the same always.

@@GuadalupeLopez-sw3bz so true

​@@valkyrafeso basically the power of the blood of Jesus is dependent on you? Can't see why you would need the blood of Jesus then.... I wonder if people like you ever truly think about what it is you believe or say. You sure as heck have not come to a place in your life where you truly realize you are a hopeless sinner.

@@valkyrafe Just because we are saved does not mean we will never sin again (good luck with that), and if we sin that does not mean we aren't saved anymore. You got this all confussed.

​@@valkyrafe- "IF" we walk in the light? We walk in the light by believing in Jesus! Praise God for His blessings on us through Jesus's blood. 🙏

@@valkyrafeThe context of that passage is in the verses before and after. John was combating gnostic teachers who said they were WITHOUT SIN. They were liars and the truth was not in them. That’s why John mentions this in the passages before and after. To walk in truth vs walk in darkness. To lie and say you are without sin, and deny that you have need of a Savior, is to walk in darkness. To admit that you have sinned and confess before God that you have sinned, is to walk in the truth and the light. That is the context. You folks need to stop cherry picking.

@@ManassehJonesSo you have stopped sinning? Before you answer, remember the standard of the law JESUS gives us in Matt 5. To be angry with a brother is murder. To look with lust is adultery. You don’t understand what these passages are saying and are in error.

@@Controle9165 no sin "at that very moment" or no sin. Which is it? Does the blood of Christ not know the future? You should drop the word repent because you are using it incorrectly. When you are born again you should walk according to the Spirit not the flesh. It is a choice to you, a choice that is only afforded to those who are born again. You don't need to turn, you just simply stop appeasing the flesh or feeding the carnal man and start walking with the spirit, this is not a "repent" issue, this is a behavioral/relationship issue. Be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind! God knows your end from your beginning and if you truly believe and are born again all your sin is forgiven and you are washed clean. It's eternal life, his eternal life which for you is life everlasting, yesterday today and tomorrow..... life!

​@@888WulfDog888Amen

All sin is "willful"

@@CJ-lr4uq sin isn't just Action. It's also Not doing what one should do, sinful thoughts, sins we speak, even the good we do can be motivated by Pride and deceit.

@@joshuatrott193 I'm aware of all of that.

@@CJ-lr4uq will full sin is being aware of a sin and then committing it anyway. That's different than internal sinful patterns.

@@joshuatrott193 Sin is Unbelief In the WORD of our Father which gives us the gift of Peace, Love, Patience, and Joy, that God before ordained that we should walk in… Sin brings about fear, uncertainty of who we are and where we stand in the sight of Father, the Holy Spirit is the Work/Gift that he gives to all that are His which is Peace The depths of Fathers Love, no man can find, but we indeed have it….Be Encouraged

hey it's you the kingdom rush guy, didn't think i'd find you here

Man centered view? He’s reading scripture. The word of God says the sexually immoral will NOT inherit the kingdom of God. Mike is saying hey check yourself, if you claim that you have “faith in Jesus” yet you produce no fruit then your tree is dead. I don’t see how Mike is just presenting a “man centered” view. He’s attempting to help people examine themselves to see if their faith is genuine.

Yeah thanks a lot great news

​@@majorcajun5524The old ploy of its not by works but works prove your salvation. Backloading, double talking, fruit inspecting, devil!

@@majorcajun5524 A person's faith is genuine if they are trusting in Christ alone as their propitiation and Saviour. Read Corinthian's as a whole they are called Saints right from the start despite having tons of bad fruit. The whole context of Corinthians is saints in error practically some to the degree the Lord made them sick and some he took their lives and took them to heaven. The books of James is a book teaching selflessness and how to have a faith that Profits Others versus one that doesn't. Its not a test your faith to see if your human works prove anything. Mike like most is preaching look at yourself in the mirror self righteous gospel. The bible says Look Only at Christ and what He did for all humanity.

@@majorcajun5524 The entire book of Corinthians in context is to those who ARE sanctified In Christ. Those who ARE Saints by Faith/Trust/Reliance Upon Christ Alone. The same ones arguing amongst themselves, picking a favorite Bible teacher be it Paul, Apollos, or Jesus. The same one's going to the pagan temples performing sexual perversity, the same ones getting drunk at the assembly, the same ones suing each other before the unjustified/unbelievers/unrighteous and not allowing the Just/Saints to judge the issue. The same ones in the same chapter Mike pulls out of context who will all assurity Paul says SHALL judge the angels in the future. Paul generically details the typical sins those same unbelievers/unrighteous do but them not having an inheritance in the kingdom isn't because of those sins or that they do them or saying that's proof because to be Righteous/Just/Saints is by imputation of the Perfect Righteousness gifted by Jesus through Faith Alone. Paul never once questions the destiny of the Saints despite their failures but actually reaffirms it and the need for growth and gives admonitions how to mature and avoid the chastening of the Lord upon His children. Because Mike is pointing to himself, and teaching others the opposite of Paul in the very book he is speaking out of Mike like Most are man centered thinking sinners deeds and acts are proof of one trusting in Christ's payment for them and that's why you see Mike and so many speak with such doubt and lacking faith that regardless of hoe good or bad we think we live the full one time payment by Jesus satisfied once and for all every requirement needed for a sinner to be eternally redeemed and made a child of God Forever. 1 Corinthians 1 1 Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother, 2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: 1 Corinthians 6 1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

Amen 1 cor 3:15 “If any man’s works shall be burned he shall suffer loss, yet he shall be saved yet so as by fire”

@@ntkmw8058 Precisely!!!

Chastised, not punished.

😂 amen

The “fuzzy zone” is akin to purgatory. It’s like purgatory while you’re alive😂

Mike literally said DONT live a life that “appears fuzzy” and if you have faith in Christ as your Savior you wouldn’t even want to (something Paul ALSO says in Romans). I’m not sure how the guy restating Mike’s own points using slightly different analogies is in any way “refuting” him but I would encourage people to stop trying to tear down genuine believers and just preach the Gospel instead,

@@Vales55 I don’t understand how you don’t see the difference in the 2 points being made your boy Mike is saying if your a Christian you might not be a Christian do to your actions but ono is saying the verse implies that unbelievers will not inherit the kingdom so believers should not hang out with them and partake in they’re darkness because they’re not your brothers in Christ they won’t be in heaven with you

@@change_your_style Guess what, first John chapter two also says the exact same thing stating that there are people in churches whose faith is not genuine and they inevitably leave. He also has isn’t saying we should look down at our noses at them but rather witness to them exactly like any other unbeliever. Something you would know if you actually watched Mike’s full video which is t any longer than this I e (though notably omits the weird repetition). The thing is we ARE called to judge whether we are believers by the fruit of the spirit. If we lack it then we should question whether our faith is genuine. Mike never once says or implies that real Christians do not sin or struggle with it. What he IS saying is that if someone continues unchanged on a path of sin without the desire to change, then clearly they are not showing repentance or conviction of of the Holy Spirit. If that’s the case then that person needs to ask WHY they aren’t changing an examine whether their faith is at all genuine. If you have a problem with that then you are doing seekers and yourself a terrible disservice. Because that is exactly what admonishment in the Bible IS.

Mike is talking not about himself and how he views himself but as an outsider, how he sees other people since he does not know the heart of a human. Since he does not know the heart of a human and he is assuming he is speaking to a person that says they believe in Jesus Christ, he is teaching that if you are a true believer, aka a new creation with the Holy Spirit in you, you will naturally do God's work , repent and move away from sin and be a disciple of Jesus. We don't stop doing sin, but as an outsider, it is a concern if someone continued to do the same sin and even if it got worse. There is no in between, which is correct, but many people are confusing themselves saying they are believers but might not be. that is the fuzzy zone. Mike is talking about a group of people that not everyone are actual true believers.

He is spiritually blind

Yes and he even points out the problem, it's a "grey area".

Exactly what I was going to say brother. But they would rather make a liar out of God before they study His word more deeply. That Judgement Seat of Christ is going to be something else. I just want to make it through the beating so I can get to the marriage supper of the Lamb amen?

@@NOTOFWORKS289calling Mike Winger spiritually blind is probably the biggest oxymoron I’ve heard in a long time.

@wowitsfrostygames155 he is. He cant even answer his on question. Which means you dont know how many sins it takes to be unsaved. Ill wait for a number. Take your time.

And Mike Winger is not one of them. He is crystal clear we are saved by Faith alone.

Not everyone is purposely a false teacher but rather many are grasping to understand.

@@danielkim672mike believes in faith alone yes but the problem is he believes true faith means stop sinning which we know is wrong

@@KronZoldyck As far as I know, Mike does not teach that 'true faith' mean we stop sinning. I have never heard him teach that. Even in this video, he says at the start that even if someone stops doing a certain sin, that that person is saved or that act contributes to salvation. What Mike teaches, as an outsider looking in, is that if you are indeed saved and have God inside you, that although we will never be completely sinless, that we will move away from sin and toward being more like Jesus Christ. That is Biblical. Are there some people that from the outside still look like totally unsaved yet their soul is saved? Yes, but that would probably is less common. Where in this video does Mike claim true faith is that person stop sinning? Please find me another video of MIke, he has a lot, that he is teaching this?

@@KronZoldyck Mike doesn't actually claim that belief. You are putting words in his mouth.

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Ikr, isaiah saldivar is a manifest example of this. In a bideo he literally said, and I quote “God’s salvation is a free gift but you have to give up everything for it”

I saw that video too. I was like 😐 .....what???? He needs to look over romans 11.6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.

@@ntkmw8058And now he’s saying that Christians who don’t do the Will of the Father will not enter Heaven and that you have to strive to enter Heaven by working hard. He doesn’t even know what the Will of the Father is.

@@SheepofChrist818 what an unsaved goat. I hope he gets banned off RU-vid and loses his platform. Pray for this also with me brother

@@ntkmw8058 Yes sir 🙏. I pray YHWH will remove him from his position like king Saul.

Then that would mean when fruits is quoted in the bible it would mean gospel. So when you want to know if someone is saved you ask them what the gospel is as that is their fruit. Even a satanist has fruit but is it good? Of course not because it lies but thats the point. If you want to know if someone is saved you check their fruit in accordance to the bible

@@marcovelice Fruit has several meanings in the Bible, and the context defines it. False prophets are know by their fruit, because of what they SAY concerning God, which is false. Christians bear the fruit of souls when they preach the gospel, if they believe it. The fruit of the Spirit belongs to God, and believers are the beneficiaries of that fruit, not the producers or exhibitors.

@@marcovelicefruits of the Spirit are love, joy, peace, patience, longsuffering, etc. what Paul says there is no Law. Be careful what you are inspecting to determine the maturity of a Believer.

Amen!

Jesus Christ has already justified and sanctified you according to Hebrews 10. Believe in Jesus Christ.

Paul said , Those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.

Mike is not backloading works. He states in the beginning example of such things like the mere fact someone stops sin, that does not have any part in salvation. IF, someone is truly saved, Mike is saying then that person, because they are a new creation, will do these good works, not to save, but due to discipleship and as a result of being a Christian. I did not find any hint of Mike arguing for a works based salvation.

​@@danielkim672 You just stated what back-loading works is. Salvation is by believing in Jesus so if you want to examine if you are truly saved, ask the question "do I believe in Jesus?". If the answer is yes then you are truly saved.

@@lack76 Do you believe everyone that answers that question yes is truly saved?

​@@danielkim672If they believe in his death burial and resurrection then they shall be saved 1 Corinthians 15 v1-4

@@patcola7335 Yes! Agreed

According to Acts 17:30, we must ALL repent of our sins in order to be saved! What determines if we get into Heaven is whether or not we are obedient to the Lord and his commands, as Jesus showed us in Matthew 7:21-23. God's Plan of Salvation Hear the Gospel. (Romans 10:17, John 8:32) Believe the Gospel (Hebrews 11:6, John 20:31) Repent of past sins (Luke 13:3, Acts 17:30) Confess faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 10:10, Matthew 10:32) Be Baptized (Galatians 3:27, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38) Be faithful unto death (Revelation 2:10)

@@Worship_Universe Jonah 3:10 in the Holy Bible (Word Of God) says 10. And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not. God says in his word through Jonah 3:10 in the Holy Bible that repenting of our sins (Turning Away From Our Sins) is WORKS and God says in his word through Ephesians 2:8-9, Titus 3:5, Romans 4:5 and Romans 3:27-28 that we are not saved by works therefore, we are not saved by repenting of our sins (Turning Away From Our Sins). As for Matthew 7:21-23 in the Holy Bible (Word Of God), the will of the Father which is in heaven that Matthew 7:21 is talking about in order to enter into the kingdom of heaven is found in John 6:40 and for the rest of the verses you replied to me was taken out of context such as Acts 17:30, Romans 10:17, John 8:32, Hebrews 11:6, John 20:31, Luke13:3, Romans 10:10, Matthew 10:32, Galatians 3:27, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38 and Revelation 2:10. The word repent you replied to me means a change of mind from unbelief to belief in the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ, the word repent you replied to me does not mean turn away from sins because notice the words of your sins to the word repent is not mentioned.

Right on brother! IT'S PARTY TIME!! Am I right? (fist bump) WOOHOO!!!

FRFR. Thank GOD. For showing us this.

Do not be deceived. God is not mocked. for whatsoever a man sows, that he shall also reap. Whoever sows to please their flesh from the flesh will reap destruction: whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Galatian 6:8

Did Mike Winger say we could save ourselves?

@@danielkim672 No he didn't. It seems like the guy running this channel and many of these followers have a big problem with basic comprehension of English. Judging by your previous comments, you actually understand what Mike has said and he is entirely accurate from a biblical perspective. Thank you for sticking up for the truth.

@@wordsofjames I like Ono a lot, I just have to think he misunderstood what Mike is trying to say here. Unlike some other RU-vidrs, I don't think he is trying to purposefully be dishonest about what Mike is saying.

Mike is not disagreeing with Ono. The key part Ono said is that Mike implied someone could lose their salvation if they keep committing sin. Mike never said that in this video nor in any teaching. Mike has not taught that a true believer can lose their salvation. As an outsider that does not truly know another person's heart, Mike is saying if one is still committing sin to the same or worse degree, is that person really saved. That is a legitimate question that James also asks. Mike at the start of the video is clear, just because one stops a sin, in no way does that contribute to salvation. But that a true believer, once they are first saved, since they are a new creation, 'SHOULD' naturally repent, want to move away from sin and do God's work.

@@danielkim672Yes they should. But it is not a requirement for salvation. Mike is saying that if we continue in these behaviors then we aren’t saved. That’s false

@@Dispensational_David I guess I didnt get that from what Mike said. I don't believe Mike means 'if we continue in these behaviors then we arent saved'. I believe Mike meant 'it COULD BE a sign a person is not saved'. Bible is clear, people will deceive themselves, and some others (Judas) probably purposefully deceived themselves.

I noticed that too. He’s trying to explain things but is obviously lost. I guess I don’t blame him for that though because when you live by the way he was explaining you’ll always have to wonder which of course isn’t Gods plan for us. Sadly he probably isn’t sure if his salvation.

I am assuming you ever judge others then.

Praying.. I was in the same position as you. Actually I still suffer from depression and anxiety and addiction. This channel has helped me a lot. It's very hard when you're emotionally feeling down. May God Bless you and keep you. May He show you that you're saved, by believing in Him alone! Not by any thing you can add to it. Stand firm in the faith. Let God lead you out of your depression. You be you and let God be Him. You are saved, because you have believed in Jesus, Amen...

Believe the Gospel we read in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 which is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins and God will take care of the rest regardless of how you feel. When I feel anxiety coming on I ask God my Father to give me His peace and joy and He does this every time.

Thanks for you both:)

Depression is a sin that you need to repent of. It's also a wilful choice - you choose to be depressed. You have a free will and can either choose to live your life in misery and depression, or you can choose to be happy and thankful in the Lord. The choice is yours. (Proverbs 15:15) All the days of the afflicted are evil: but he that is of a merry heart hath a continual feast.

I pray you are healed in Jesus Christ name! God bless and keep you! Read John. Read Luke. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SOpZ9ECAd8k.html

No he is completely wrong 1 John 5:13 says we know we are saved. Winger has no idea if he is saved if he believes his preaching

@@kM-ij2ly "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1 John 5:13 What things did John write? 1 John 1:6 "If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:" 1 John 2:3-6 "And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked." 1 John 2:29 "If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him." 1 John 3:6-10 "Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother." A very obvious recurring theme in the book of 1 John is that we may know we have eternal life because our works and the Spirit are proof that we did believe and were saved. Why do you think that Paul in 2 Corinthians 13:5 gives the command to examine if you are in the faith? "Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?"

Right on. These folks don't understand the difference between works for salvation, and works as a result of salvation.

What if you died before you reached the place where you are today? Like yesterday?

@@shawnjaillet568 he clearly said, after 18 years of being saved, meaning that he was saved the whole 18 years prior to reaching this point.

According to Acts 17:30, we must ALL repent of our sins in order to be saved! What determines if we get into Heaven is whether or not we are obedient to the Lord and his commands, as Jesus showed us in Matthew 7:21-23. God's Plan of Salvation Hear the Gospel. (Romans 10:17, John 8:32) Believe the Gospel (Hebrews 11:6, John 20:31) Repent of past sins (Luke 13:3, Acts 17:30) Confess faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 10:10, Matthew 10:32) Be Baptized (Galatians 3:27, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38) Be faithful unto death (Revelation 2:10)

@@Worship_Universe you are trusting in yourself, not in Christ to get to heaven

talk about subjective. No one is perfect. What is more important is the soundness of the teachings. No one is perfect in this area either and I don't think Mike Winger is being purposefully deceptive when he might be wrong theologically.

I might be missing something, but I think that is what Mike was actually saying. As an outside observer that does not know another person's heart, Mike is saying there are people that profess to be believers that he could not say definitely in a guess if they are a Christian or not. If one says they are a believer and truly Trusts in God, they will repent, go to God and move away from sin. We are not completely removed, but we will bear fruit. It won't have anything to do with our salvation, but as a new creation in Christ, that is what Godly people will do. As an outside observer, people probably thought Judas was a true follower of Jesus. There is no indication in terms of action that Judas was not a true believer. He was not acting like a pharisee or anything. He was following Jesus but clearly he was not a true believer. So even in that sense, we can deceive potentially not only ourselves and clearly the outside world.

@@danielkim672 The Bible says Judas was a devil from the start. It also says a devil entered into him when he went to get the pharisees.

@@CaptainPantys Yes, the Bible teaches us that, but during the time Judas followed Christ, there is no other of the 12 that were questioning whether Judas was a true follower. Outside of God, who inspired the Words we see in Scripture, everyone else believed Judas was one of the core 12, a true follower of Jesus.

@danielkim672 Ah, yes I see what you're saying now. I guess the flip side of that could also happen though. Someone could be living like a total deviant or something, and it would look like they're definitely not a christian. But they trust in Christ and are therefore saved.

@@CaptainPantys Yes i agree with you that there are certainly saved people, true Christians that if you or I saw their lives, they wouldn't looked like they were saved. This is where Mike is saying if you are in this group, it would be ideal to move away from this and produce better Godly fruit. It is sound advice to follow Jesus more closely, not any proclamation that works is what saves. As a Christian, anything that we can do to be more like Jesus, that is running the right type of race.

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Yes, you are still saved. The only way to conquer those sins is to lay them at Gods feet. Come before Him, confess the sin and ask him to handle it. The only way we can fight sin is thru the power of God. You are feeling conviction from the Holy Spirit. I struggled for 6 years with smoking. I prayed and prayed and prayed about it. I got rid of my cigarettes. I still thought about it all the time. I finally said “God, I can’t do this on my own. I need you to take this from me. I need your help with this sin because I can’t stop on my own.” I turned from the sin, by getting rid of the things that were making smoking easy for me, but every-time I thought about smoking, I’d pray about it and the desire would leave. I’m far from perfect but now I don’t smoke. It’s a process.

@@Jesusandcoffee3382buddy i hate to break it to you but smoking is not a sin 😂

@@konkoor881it’s still not good. Even secular people know this

@meganinjaskill you aren't alone I struggle too and with ocd I pray God helps me too I often feel defeated and upset sinning against God may God help us both.

Winger has no idea if he is even saved therefore he is an unsaved devil

Amen, Mike Winger does his best to think biblically about topics and I appreciate him instructing his viewers to not take his word but to pray and read the Bible concerning most issues.

Mike preaches a false repent of your sins Gospel, therefore mark and avoid... The Gospel is not a secondary issue...

@@AdamJoseph1352 you’re a weirdo.

@@kM-ij2lyI’m not sure how you can come to that conclusion considering only God knows your heart

Adrian Rogers.

He talks grace through faith, says it's not by works, yet immediately declares that to receive the gift of salvation you must repent of your sins and give your life to Christ. Double talking, fruit inspecting, devil.

Have you read Matthew that's how your saved. Repentance is a change of mind about sin and faith is putting that mind towards christ in believing

He is Lordship salvation false teacher. He doesn't believe in Jesus for everlasting life that is irrevocable.

​@@americodiloretto217that is definitely not true of Mike Winger.

@thanosman3491 John 3:16 and John 3:36 said it clear! Therefore, Acts 16:31..." believeth on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shall be saved", that's good enough!!!

Actually, know " them"... " them" is false prophets/teachers.

@@sunnydaze1185 True. But a true Christian should show evidence by their words that they are changed - even if their actions are slower to change.

@@rev.dr.yvonneray2035 Possibly...if they speak the true gospel . Grace through Faith in who Christ is and what He did( his death burial and resurrection) and what it accomplished. But technically, only God can really, really know a person’s standing( saved or not) by knowing our inward heart.

We will struggle with sin as long as we are in the flesh the flesh and spirit fight against each other Paul spoke on this the good that I want to do I don't practice and the things I don't want to do I practice

Ono is not perfect either and I think he is wrong here. Mike is not teaching someone that is a true believer could lose their salvation but he is indeed questioning, as an outsider that does not know the heart of a human, only God does, that if one commits the same sin and say even worse, were they even a believer to begin with. That is a legit question. Mike is not saying that is a clear sign that person is not a believer, but it is a question that even James asks.

⁠@@danielkim672I’ve recently discovered Ono, and while I enjoy the message I’ll be honest I think he just wants the smoke.

@@wowitsfrostygames155 I am not sure if Ono 'wants the smoke', but I think he is focused on Biblically correct wrong doctrine being spewed out here on RU-vid. I commend him for that I am hope more people come across his videos as the ones I watch, his theology is sound Biblically. No one is perfect so I am sure sometimes he gets the intentions of the person he is responding to or the meaning of what that person is saying incorrectly. I believe he misunderstood Mike Winger here.

Winger preaches a false gospel clearly He has no idea if he is saved

Mike indeed does preach a false Gospel, you should mark and avoid. The Gospel is not a secondary issue.

@@AdamJoseph1352 oh my, what part is this false gospel Mike preaches?

@@kM-ij2ly Mike has a clear idea if he is saved.

@@danielkim672 Not according to his words.

Mike Winger is extremely sound.. listen to his messages

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Mike did not teach in this video one can lose their salvation. Nor has he ever taught that in his other videos.

@@danielkim672 you like his video’s

Just because a person is saved and makes it to Heaven, doesn’t mean they will escape earthly consequences from committing said sin(s). On another note, I like your Eddy profile picture.

@@bighand1530 I've experience chastisement before it's not fun. People who say there's no consuqence to sin in osas has never been on the receiving end of spiritual discipline before. Ps thanks Ed edd n Eddy is one of my favorites cartoon shows lol

@@robbycricket6611 I can relate. There is that. No problem.

What does John 3:16 say? Do you believe that verse?

@@thevulture5750 yes

@@thevulture5750 yes. But to give you more insight, if someone has trusted the blood of Christ, then there will be fruit. Atleast that’s what majority of believers think

@@idriveastationwagon1534 John 15:1-5 1I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. How could you have fruit without Christ?

@@thevulture5750 there are people that might think they believe that in themselves but have deceived themselves too.And from an outside observer, it is hard to tell too. During the years Judas was following Jesus, do you believe Judas did not show Godly deeds and works? There i no indication until the end about Judas' desception and that he was never a true Christian believer. There are plenty of people out there that are doing 'God's work' that are doing it for own selfish ambitions purely that are not true believers for sure.

Oh wow, You do not know Mike Winger do you. He is far from a Calvinist. You should check his videos on him disagreeing with the 5 points of Calvinism. Do you disagree with James that a truly saved person will have good Works? Since we do not know a person's heart, the only way to know if one might even be a Christian is by the fruits. That does not save, but it is a sign. Without it, there is a good chance it never was. I mean Judas showed plenty of works but was clearly never a Christian.There are many people that say they believe in Jesus, but deceive themselves. That is true for the 1st century and true today.

Even if you grieve the Holy Spirit you are still saved. Salvation is one time only because Jesus died one time. But there’s a consequence of sins. You’re not going to received blessings here on earth, physical death, eternal rewards but you’re still going to heaven. That’s how powerful the work of Christ on cross. If you doubt that than you are not saved to begin with because you’re basically calling God a liar.

@@StiffShot that sounds Calvinistic, are you a Calvinist? I would say I am a mixture between Calvinism and Arminianism.

@@greysinferno8214 no I’m not a Calvinist. I’m a born again believer in Christ.

@@greysinferno8214 Free grace theology doesn't fall under the false dichotomy of Calvinism vs Arminianism. There are some differences in opinion about rewards and chastisement within some groups of free grace believers but ultimately the core belief is we're once justified/saved always justified/saved by faith/trust/belief in Jesus' sacrifice for our sins, His death burial and resurrection for us. We cannot lose salvation. We believe that once we first believed/trusted in Jesus for eternal life, we received the atonement (Jesus' shed Blood for us) on our accounts and are saved/atoned for, sealed unto the day of redemption by the Holy Spirit of Promise (God cannot lie) and that there is chastisement from God and rewards from God for our behavior. Believers have the choice whether or not they follow the Spirit and bear fruit/rewards or not. We do not believe are under the law but are dead to the law through Jesus Christ's death burial and resurrection. We have been given New Spirits that cannot sin and God dwells within us. If we follow the Spirit, we will make good, Holy, and righteous decisions. If we follow our flesh, we can reap bad fruit in our life and even death from God's chastisement. We believe that all people have a choice whether or not they accept Jesus and believers have a choice after they're saved whether or not they obey Jesus/God. 1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 1 Corinthians 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Ephesians 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Ephesians 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. Galatians 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. 1 Corinthians 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. 1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 1 Corinthians 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. 1 John 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. 1 John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death. 1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. Hebrews 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

@@nicholasisaiah53john316 Hold on, you need to define your terms. What do you mean by free grace theology, Arminianism, and Calvinism in this context. Also, your assertion that it is a false dichotomy between Calvinism and Arminianism. Would you explain why it is a false dichotomy?

Being “lukewarm” has to do with your state, not your standing. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OoN1XIoFakY.htmlfeature=shared

lol that isn't even remotely true You clearly have trouble with basic comprehension of English if you believe that. Kind of pathetic.

totally false, gotcha SMH

@@danielkim672 you can't preach a partial false gospel, its false lordship nonsense

@@LarryLarpwell What part of what Mike said preaching a partial false gospel? Please be specific and quote him.

@@danielkim672 you sound like a pharisee, why would you even ask that when you just watched a video of it? lol