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Is Pikmin 2 The Perfect Pikmin Game? - Review 

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Pikmin 2 still stands as my all-time favourite Pikmin game and one of my personal best of all time. But is it simply nostalgia goggles, or has this game really got the key to the perfect game?
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@alecfrancis47
@alecfrancis47 6 лет назад
The inconsistency of the time managing mechanics isn't a bad thing. When you said it was a pacing issue that just blew my mind. Part of pacing is switching between calm and intense moments so you don't get bored after playing calm moments for a long time, and don't get tired after playing intense moments for a long time. Pikmin 2 does this perfectly with the intensity of the surface and inherent calmness of the caves. Even the music in both areas reflects this well.
@Nic_2751
@Nic_2751 Год назад
Pikmin 3 easily has worst pacing thanks to its linear story progression
@FawfulsGalaxy
@FawfulsGalaxy 7 лет назад
Can we all take a minute to appreciate how much Dazz has grown? Well done Dazz, well done...
@legomotion3152
@legomotion3152 7 лет назад
Pikmin 2 is the best pikmin game in my opinion
@somethingidk7355
@somethingidk7355 7 лет назад
Agreed, Pikmin 2 is what I hope the next main series game is like.
@Potatercheep
@Potatercheep 7 лет назад
but bombrocks...
@cookiesontoast9981
@cookiesontoast9981 7 лет назад
lego motion I'm not a huge fan of the sub level cave thingies though, but I might have to agree non the less.
@cinnamonnoir2487
@cinnamonnoir2487 6 лет назад
Pikmin 2 is one of the rare games where I could just read flavor text about enemies and treasures for an hour and still be entertained. The world has a sense of charm that I don't think Nintendo has ever managed to reproduce.
@Th3Gold3nB00m3r
@Th3Gold3nB00m3r 6 лет назад
Pikmin 2 is my favorite, though some of the sub levels are hella whack. Between the levels with like 5 dirigibugs, dropping bombs and volatile dweevils, mazes with endless death abysses riddled with things that could buck your pikmin off the map, and I think like 6 enemies that could literally kill all your pikmin in an instant. I'm glad some things didn't carry over to pikmin 3
@bobafett177
@bobafett177 7 лет назад
I can finally say this about a RU-vidr. I was here from the beginning, I'm an actual O.G fan
@clintwoodlock4974
@clintwoodlock4974 7 лет назад
bobafett177 me too, his quality has certinly improved and as a pikmin enthusiasts myself I'm glad to see him do well.
@comanderwolf1955
@comanderwolf1955 7 лет назад
Same
@christianbuskirk1471
@christianbuskirk1471 7 лет назад
He is the only reason why I didn't go insane while waiting for pikmin 3
@ConductorElcrest
@ConductorElcrest 7 лет назад
bobafett177 watching Dazz grow his RU-vid channel is great.
@killmeorstfu
@killmeorstfu 7 лет назад
bobafett177 same
@nandernugget
@nandernugget 7 лет назад
I subbed to you during e3 2012. The Pikmin 3 hype was real for me.
@thatchomper
@thatchomper 6 лет назад
Just for clarification on the music Dazz was talking about, I made a list. 3:52 Citadel of Spiders (I recognized it through the trumpet) 4:08 Burnt Burrow (forgot about this one) 4:19 Hot House (never heard of it) 4:25 Subterranean Complex (I recognized through the echos and mechanical theme)
@SuperPwnageBoi69
@SuperPwnageBoi69 4 года назад
I 5hought the first one was the shower room
@propanesalesman660
@propanesalesman660 3 года назад
My homie🙏i recognised them all too
@jimhorn3193
@jimhorn3193 6 лет назад
Pikmin 2 is the best Pikmin game for sure. I think you were a bit too harsh on the music, because music doesn't have to be memorable to be good. Especially for the caves, the purpose of the music was to blend into the background. You barely notice it when you play because it blends into the whole level's atmosphere so well, and the slight instrument changes help this effect even more. And when it comes to the music for the overworld levels and the bosses, the music is gosh darn perfect! I respect your opinion, but I personally would give the music an 8 or 9 out of 10.
@jimhorn3193
@jimhorn3193 6 лет назад
Also, I agree with you that electricity may have been slightly too harsh, but you have to admit it's better than in Pikmin 3, where it literally can't kill your Pikmin but only stuns them, thus making Yellow Pikmin necessary only for puzzle solving.
@ninjdraw8305
@ninjdraw8305 5 лет назад
Pikmin 2 isnt the best pikmin game for sure
@lamegamertime
@lamegamertime 5 лет назад
I mean honestly, no matter how good the music was you couldn't pick out what area theme it went with, because it was interchangeable.
@lamegamertime
@lamegamertime 5 лет назад
@@ninjdraw8305 Bruh, if you're going to make dumb claims use a comment and not a reply. And don't leave the claim baseless without reason.
@ninjdraw8305
@ninjdraw8305 5 лет назад
@@lamegamertime oh no I have an opinion with reasoning but I didnt want to waste explaining why AHHH ATTACK ME. Just because I didnt give reasoning doesnt mean I cant reply stupi. Its an opinion and I could share it the way I want to moron and it seems like you dont respect my opinion which makes you sick. Sure, you can disagree but you cant call an opinion dumb since the opinion has to do with something subjective...dummy
@basilico8344
@basilico8344 6 лет назад
Pikmin 2 is my favourite pikmin game and is totally in my top five games. The music is beautiful, it truly gets you involved in the action, the colors are vibrant and shiny, the gameplay it's just flawless, the caves are fillers, but they work pretty well, and it's addicting to explore floor after floor searching for treasures. And it's awesome to use the purple pikmins. I don't want to review the game, not here, but if you haven't played pikmin 2 yet, you really should, it's an amazing experience.
@neonmole9453
@neonmole9453 7 лет назад
I think the music should be higher, because very few games have a 100% recognisable soundtrack, there's always those one or two songs that make you go, "where was this played again?". Yes, a lot of the soundtrack is forgettable, but the stuff that is memorable is some of the best game music I can think of. So maybe, 8/10 instead of 6 for me. And with the day night cycle, I think it makes sense that you're not having to worry about the time of day, the monsters underground aren't going to care about where the sun is. Maybe changing the time you emerge and jumping forward a day could have improved it. The whole electricity instakill thing also makes sense, the other hazards take time to damage your body to such an extent that you die, but electricity can just kill outright, so I'd give it a 8/10 rather than a 4.
@citizenSanto
@citizenSanto 6 лет назад
Heya dazz, just wanted to say. you're the only person on this site to provide the kind of Pikmin content that i've always wanted. Have a good one, and enjoy summer!
@colegovitz603
@colegovitz603 7 лет назад
Perhaps in your next review, story should be a category to score on. Keep up the good work!
@lucassmith2126
@lucassmith2126 7 лет назад
some categories should have more weight than others and instead of thinking of visuals in a graphical stamdpoint think of it more artistically--graphics don't make a game but the art and style that it goes for are what make it stand out. Art isnt about being the most realistic, it's about conveying a feeling. pikmin 3 may look really good due to the specs of the system but it doesn't compare to the dark mysterious artistic style of pikmin 2 imo.
@aarona.3261
@aarona.3261 3 года назад
Facts, facts, facts, and finally facts.
@Nic_2751
@Nic_2751 Год назад
Based
@Artofjoe
@Artofjoe 4 года назад
I really loved the difficulty spikes in the world as it kept me playing well after I beat the game.
@lamegamertime
@lamegamertime 5 лет назад
The game kinda does have some memorable music outside the caves, though. It's just the caves mix and match the stuff.
@danielsuzuki1396
@danielsuzuki1396 7 лет назад
I'm a huge pikmin 2 fan and this made me start my 9th playthrough of the game
@dusterthemasterthief5188
@dusterthemasterthief5188 7 лет назад
The moment the video started, I thought my alarm had gone on, lol. Anyway, Pikmin 2 is my most fave Pikmin game. I want Pikmin 4 to bring back the Piklopedia in it's full glory plus add more to it, same thing with the caves system and purple Pikmin returning( not nerfed mind you nor being restricted to multiplayer only). Pikmin 2 has the best of everything in the series: music, gameplay, environments and even story. I would spend hours just listening to the Piklopedia music while reading the logs.
@TheJoeJoe323
@TheJoeJoe323 7 лет назад
Before watching I'm already saying yes, because I'm biased and it's my favorite game. But let's see. Edit: I don't disagree with basically anything, except on just my own opinion that I sometimes like unexpected, unbalanced and surprising situations. And I also like the more subtle approach of some of the cave music. Other than that I agree with everything.
@sourmeat7982
@sourmeat7982 7 лет назад
That's a really high quality thumbnail, Dazz
@ns2547
@ns2547 7 лет назад
As a pikmin fan and music fan i give the music a 10. Its music is amazing. It can be amazing but not remembered.
@landfillgaming2002
@landfillgaming2002 6 лет назад
nat pain especially the forest of hope music. It's amazing
@vagabondteamaker5578
@vagabondteamaker5578 7 лет назад
I remember the pre-pikimin 3 hype, aw youth.
@Surfingpichu
@Surfingpichu 7 лет назад
My fave will always be the first Pikmin, just for all the memories, but Pikmin 2 is so solid. Solid review! Keep up the good work =O
@avdolschickens2373
@avdolschickens2373 7 лет назад
I think we've all pretty much been here since the start, well be here till the end. Good luck to Dazz and may his channel and skill prosper till the end of time.
@micalishis
@micalishis 7 лет назад
I think it's okay to have some forgettable music. Music isn't always meant to get stuck in your head and be memorable. Sometimes music is just there to give you a certain feeling. There would be some that argue if the music takes you out of the game then it's actually bad music, even if it takes you out of the game because it's so good.
@Wildpikmin1
@Wildpikmin1 7 лет назад
I love Pikmin 3 but really wish it continued the trend of innovation and extras that Pikmin 2 started. The cutscenes, world building, and things like Piklopedia really made it so much more special.
@clintwoodlock4974
@clintwoodlock4974 7 лет назад
came here and watch this after pbandjeffs pikmin 2 part 1. Glad to see a lot of pikmin 2 today, you know comparative to how much there usually is.
@Traveler_of_the_Stars
@Traveler_of_the_Stars 7 лет назад
My biggest problem with Pikmin 2 is the lack of time limit pressure compared to Pikmin 3, and especially the first Pikmin. Now this is *incredibly* subjective, as people may love the fact that Pikmin 2 basically ditched the time limit altogether; as time limits can stress players out. I personally miss it because it added that constant pressure to already demanding games. Not to say Pikmin 2 had no pressure, I just think Pikmin 3 had it the best where it didn't limit how long you played the actual game, but just made sure you were efficient in a day to make more progress, and move on to the next day. Pikmin has a lot of interesting creatures that really make you feel small and helpless, that you could (eventually) overcome. The time limit seems like another enemy of sorts; what makes it a particularly dastardly foe is the fact that unlike the regular creatures, you can't control nor kill it the time limit. It just will always add pressure to really do your best. And as Dazz said, it makes the pacing skewed. Once again, it's opinionated, and some players may hate time limits. So I can totally understand if players want to be more relaxed. It's not like this is a HUGE thing against Pikmin 2; just a flaw I don't care for. But nevertheless, Pikmin 2, and all of the other Pikmin games for that matter, are wonderful experiences.
@lucassmith2126
@lucassmith2126 7 лет назад
Travlers of the Stars i think the addition of extra enemies after a certain amount of days was to add that time limit pressure (so yeah they are punishing you for taking long, just like the first game did) but it really isnt effective at all. i think the devs realized that coming off of pikmin 1, people are going to expect it to be the same game and tried to add some kind of time pressure but failed in creating the same feeling. Also pacing in a pikmin game doesn't make since to me since there is no story to advance as you're given the one goal from the beginning and how you achieve it is up to you. I think one complaint could be that the day cycle can be interrupted completely by really long caves but you could always just do them near sundown. with the added caves the whole day limit could have been removed but it remains to keep the constant sense of productivity within each day and keep the sense of accomplishment. this game tried something new with its approach and instead of just making a bigger pikmin 1 (because we all know pikmin 1 is way too short) they shifted the focus on a more open and exploration based game. the caves added soo much to this game to make it give it so much more of a rounded experience and it just wouldn't have worked with any overarching time limit. also pikmin 3's time limit disappears after a couple days when you collect more fruit than you'll ever need. sorry for the long ramble comment, it's late and i love talking pikmin
@someguy9284
@someguy9284 7 лет назад
I've always been pro Pikmin 2 when it comes to this. Both sides have good points but I've always felt that Pikmin 2 is the best balanced of the trilogy. Pikmin 2 always gives you the resources to approach things in a different manner. The combo of above ground sections and caves rarely left me with a "Waste Day" (Which is something that Pikmin 1 & 3 falll into sometimes imo) All 3 are excellent games but I think Pikmin 2 has the most to come back to.
@lucassmith2126
@lucassmith2126 7 лет назад
Some Guy i agree. the best thing that pikmin 2 offers is its variety in gameplay. It's like a zelda with a day system. Zelda is great for the the combination of overworld exploration and awesome dungeon crawling--pikmin 2 is the same way.
@Maxwell_Twist
@Maxwell_Twist 6 лет назад
Personally, the only time I found the time limits to hinder me was my first playthrough when I was in my early teens at the latest where I failed to meet both their 30 limits. Taking a break after my first playthroughs of each game, when I came back, I easily beat the first game in 20 days and can now do it in 14 or less, though my copy of Pikmin 2 stopped working so my first playthrough is my only playthrough sadly, or at least my only full playthrough. Now, what's with the long anecdote here? Basically, I don't feel much of any pressure at all from the time limit and I doubt most adults would. Alongside that, for the younger audience that wouldn't be able to finish the first game, they will at least be able to play through the second game and if they aren't able to meet the 30-day goal, then they have something they can strive for when they replay the game. I also loved that the game didn't just end once you meet your goal. I would have loved to have the extra stuff that you have to do in the second game after you pay off the debt in the first game.
@bleak3304
@bleak3304 5 лет назад
If you really want a challenge, set a day limit for yourself. I could get every treasure in 10 days when I really pressed myself (and used the reset button in caves >~>;).
@eddiedombrowski1960
@eddiedombrowski1960 7 лет назад
But the question is... Will Character D be in Pikmin 4? (This is a joke. A joke for this channel.)
@thoseotherguys3160
@thoseotherguys3160 7 лет назад
GoldenHawk X No. they are building up hype for pikmin 5.
@jamestopfaff
@jamestopfaff 7 лет назад
I LOVE this channel my favourite
@Alex-uq1el
@Alex-uq1el 7 лет назад
I love the entire Pikmin series, but Pikmin 2 is definitely my favorite Pikmin game, even though I've only played Pikmin 3.
@DomyTheMad420
@DomyTheMad420 3 года назад
0:56 and this is the moment i decided to check if you do reviews more often, daz a nice scoring system
@metroidnerd9001
@metroidnerd9001 5 лет назад
He brings back up the random generation of caves in the replayability section while showing one of the cave sublevels that is almost exactly the same every time.
@EgrichSMG
@EgrichSMG 6 лет назад
The gattling groink actually has consistancy, it has to directly hit your pikmin or a creature to kill/damage it. At least from my game that was the case.
@Poiznjaw
@Poiznjaw 7 лет назад
W8 the blue pikmin are eaten first?? do monsters target them mostly?
@MrGuy__
@MrGuy__ 7 лет назад
Whoa it's been FIVE years?!? I remember watching your E3 2012 Pikmin 3 analysis video
@ConductorElcrest
@ConductorElcrest 7 лет назад
Dazz review... Reviewing a game?! My god!
@ConductorElcrest
@ConductorElcrest 7 лет назад
Also I can't be the only one who's gotten white Pikmin in the submerged castle right?
@BlizzyAdeline
@BlizzyAdeline 7 лет назад
Mew2King's Marth that was either a glitch or a hack
@wreckerlawson9826
@wreckerlawson9826 7 лет назад
hey i recently picked up pikmin 2 on the nintendo e shop but have been trying to get it for a long time i even found your channel because of pikmin
@rikithelegendaryheropon8135
@rikithelegendaryheropon8135 7 лет назад
wrecker lawson Nice, have fun with it
@u1f47b7
@u1f47b7 7 лет назад
Out of all 3, Pikmin 2 was the longest from what I experienced but it offered many weird situations that were actually fun to play out. I think it would be cool if they returned the caves in a future game, and even make a mode where you go down a cave as far as you can before you either lose all of your Pikmin or your life. Not sure what the reward would be. Bragging rights?
@CheerUpCrewcut
@CheerUpCrewcut 7 лет назад
4:15 I swear that's from a cave in 2nd area, Awakening Wood I believe is the name of the area?
@TongPik3
@TongPik3 7 лет назад
Pikifan4 IndigoCobra57 Hole of Beasts level 3 and Citadel of Spiders level 2
@thecheeseoverlord5885
@thecheeseoverlord5885 7 лет назад
I think story should be a category because the story is always the first thing i look for when i'm thinking about buying a game
@Obstagoon862
@Obstagoon862 4 года назад
Actually, Bulbmin aren't immune to explosions!
@abandonedchannel8828
@abandonedchannel8828 5 лет назад
4:31 For some reason I distinctly remember this music track.
@optimalbruh7991
@optimalbruh7991 4 года назад
Without this game in my childhood I would not be a gamer
@jarofticks7146
@jarofticks7146 3 года назад
14:46 when that thing appeared I littleraly crapped my pants (figuratively)
@theluiginoidperson1097
@theluiginoidperson1097 6 лет назад
3:52 That might be a sound test, like Mono/Stereo/Surround. Why do I think this? Because it sounds very similar to the sound test found in the sound settings for Super Mario Sunshine. Edit: No its not, nevermind.
@Pikmaniak
@Pikmaniak 6 лет назад
I'd have to heavily disagree with Dazz on Music, Mechanics, and Controls, but aside from those three categories, I think this review is fair and pretty accurate. I did a review of Pikmin 2 myself, and gave it a 94.5/100 (Gamecube version) myself. Though I did have a few additional categories for my own review as well, and looking at it again I'm noticing very similar scores for some of your categories.
@thunderman_2226
@thunderman_2226 4 года назад
Great thumbnail!
@elaroarhedgedog8891
@elaroarhedgedog8891 2 года назад
The gatling groink shoots 3 projectiles. 2 are non-lethal, only knocking pikmin over. 1 is lethal. If I remember correctly, the middle spawning one is the lethal one.
@elaroarhedgedog8891
@elaroarhedgedog8891 2 года назад
Yes I know this video is years old
@pdas2712
@pdas2712 7 лет назад
Hey can you play hey!pikmin for 3ds when it comes out? I really want to know your opininon aout this spin off.
@Traveler_of_the_Stars
@Traveler_of_the_Stars 7 лет назад
Daniel Alexandru Patac I'll be glad to inform you on some good news then, because Dazz said he'll be streaming Hey! Pikmin when it releases. So I imagine he'll review it.
@Red5rainbow
@Red5rainbow 7 лет назад
I can't say I've been here since the beginning but I'm supporting you on patron so that makes up for it r-right?
@sprucebadger8229
@sprucebadger8229 4 года назад
3:09 *disagrees in wistful wild and mystic marsh*
@OfficialLime35
@OfficialLime35 2 года назад
Mystic*
@kyazarshadala8114
@kyazarshadala8114 7 лет назад
Does it count as telling if I don't say what I'm telling?
@petrarefugio7375
@petrarefugio7375 7 лет назад
Your great Dazz
@neocraftz1553
@neocraftz1553 7 лет назад
2:26 How did I instantly recognize that render... I even know what the render's page is.
@manimdedagain
@manimdedagain 5 лет назад
hey dazz do you really want every cave to be like the sumberegd castle with you know who
@TheWeevil2000
@TheWeevil2000 7 лет назад
I have been waiting for this since the pikmin 3 one...
@SuperMuskett
@SuperMuskett Год назад
Ive always had ALOT of grievances with this game with its mechanics and such and i always seem to be the only one with this opinion, so its a breath of fresh air that you have the same opinion
@whitepikmin3449
@whitepikmin3449 7 лет назад
pikmin 2 is the perfect game for me, its everything i want and i was a woos at it when i first played
@landfillgaming2002
@landfillgaming2002 6 лет назад
White Pikmin I think I like pikmin 3 more.
@supercoollad
@supercoollad 7 лет назад
5:53 is when I'm like I gotta get the hell outta here.
@kanko3477
@kanko3477 2 года назад
Is pikmin 2 the best pikmin game? Me before even clicking on the video: yes, yes it is.
@AeroBlaze777
@AeroBlaze777 7 лет назад
Slow down dude! A lot of the times you kept rambling on at the speed of sound and the random audio blips didn't help that. Good review though, lots of depth to it
@kingslimeythatmakemovies4526
@kingslimeythatmakemovies4526 6 лет назад
My hopes and dream are thin and minty cookies why am I saying this because my favorite thing to eat when watching people play this because I don’t have a game cube
@radiancedelta5194
@radiancedelta5194 6 лет назад
1:23 “no one would shooed to look at a ugly mess of a game for 20 hours” DWARF FORTRESS
@Poisonpede
@Poisonpede 6 лет назад
the gatling goink only kills if it gets a direct hit on a pikmin, but only knocks them back if affected by blast damge. I think
@RoninCatholic
@RoninCatholic 3 года назад
Personally I'd like to play a game that was like the caves from this game, but with no overworld. A squad tactical real-time roguelike where you pick out 100 troops to bring into the procedurally generated dungeons and need to take care to keep them from dying off. It'd need better balance between unit and hazard types, of course.
@NunnyNugget
@NunnyNugget 5 лет назад
4:09 - WOLLYWOGS.
@machinegunsally1874
@machinegunsally1874 3 года назад
There's always that one pikmin that sticks to you after you disband.
@VinnytotheK
@VinnytotheK 7 лет назад
Wow I've been subscribed for 5 years!?
@masontoth8531
@masontoth8531 6 лет назад
I believe the music for the caves is also randomly generated, which is interesting to say the least.
@metroidprime6161
@metroidprime6161 7 лет назад
There is some great cave music though in my opinion. Bulblax kingdom, submerged castle, and shower room being some.
@dominikbuch9854
@dominikbuch9854 7 лет назад
Great review! I really like thus concept for a review, it gives you the opportunity to talk about things in way greater detail than just "This is good, this is bad, X/10." I also like how you weren't blinded by your love for this game and stayed critical towards it. Keep it up!
@masonmays7513
@masonmays7513 7 лет назад
wait it's been 5 years and you only have 23k subs wow
@pineapplepop3733
@pineapplepop3733 7 лет назад
Well this means I've been watching for 5 years
@TongPik3
@TongPik3 7 лет назад
I remember the Music a lot actually. It's great.
@sumann3832
@sumann3832 6 лет назад
The Titan dwevil!
@mightyandray7260
@mightyandray7260 Год назад
I like to think the music fits the perspective of the protagonist. Not just for the switch of the protagonists but also just in general. The caves music are so lacking due to olimar not knowing much about the underground of this planet. The submerged castle is creepy because of the atmosphere, only having blue pikmin with lots of other hazards sand in other sub levels, the water wraith. When you switch to Louie or the president, the music does not switch the notes are just off. Due to not knowing anything as much as olimar. That creepy tone that plays when you’re near an enemy in the caves due to not knowing what to expect. The boss battle music even fits, it’s no longer impending doom like the first game it’s a full on battle. And of course from the first game, the drums in a battle or instrument change at the end of the day. Something pikmin 3 doesn’t really do, matching the perspectives.
@soldofpol7026
@soldofpol7026 6 лет назад
...just sayin', the way Gatling groinks work is if the pikmin are in the center of the blast they're dead, but if they just get hit by the shockwave around it, they're fine.
@rosel2452
@rosel2452 5 лет назад
i completely disagree with the Time mechanic making the game worse, as you said, i understand how a dissonance between the two COULD potentially be annoying, but the way the game handles it is so good that it negates any problems it could have had. While you're on the surface you have to manage your time, daylight matters, Creatures still come out at night in full force and it's dangerous and that makes sense. It also makes it so that you have to pick, choose, and manage your time so that you can accomplish a goal in that day, such as reaching a certain cave, or fully unlocking paths to the whole map, or maybe beating an overworld boss or getting an overworld treasure. But then you go underground, time doesn't matter here, the creatures aren't nocturnal, day and night don't exist down here for all intents and purposes. So you're free to plan and go about at your own pace. It not only makes sense in the lore but completely creates a parallel to what the overworld is like. Honestly the two mechanics don't clash, they mesh. Maybe it's just personal preference, but i feel as though your assessment is wrong, and what you perceive as a weakness is actually a strength.
@sgt.schnuts1025
@sgt.schnuts1025 6 лет назад
My answer is yes. It's just so interesting and enjoyable even though the only have very littles types than the other games (Not The Original Pikmin Though). I really also enjoy the gameplay and content involved in this game with their unbelievable bosses and optional ones. So that's concludes my answer is yes. :)
@abadnamemaker40
@abadnamemaker40 7 лет назад
I have an idea for dazz on his gaming channel. A replay of Pikmin 2 either: On the Wii or on the gamecube ( again ) with the twist of not losing a single Pikmin.
@dusknoir64
@dusknoir64 7 лет назад
I feel like you didn't mention one of the biggest problems in the game. TRAPS. Bomb rocks falling from the sky being the big offender. This is extremely player unfriendly, as on a first playthrough this is not only frustrating, but can easily turn a player off as they feel like the game isn't giving them any hope of countering what the game is doing to them. And as you mentioned, the caves are completely random, and that means so are the traps. So not even multiple playthroughs are useless.
@rikithelegendaryheropon8135
@rikithelegendaryheropon8135 7 лет назад
dusknoir64 Riki disagrees with this, most traps, especially bomb rock traps, are very generous in giving players plenty of time to react and escape from the danger. Boulder traps are difficult to avoid but still very avoidsble from. Riki think there are 2 specific examples of traps being bullshit, and those are Withering Blowhog traps in the Submerged Castle, and the Spotty Bulbear trap in the Hole of Heroes. Both of these are extremely dangerous enemies which literally fall out of the sky and can instantly deflower or kill a Pikmin
@dusknoir64
@dusknoir64 7 лет назад
That would be true. If not for the fact that these traps can, and do get placed near enemies. And while this can help in killing the enemies sometimes. There's also the problem of the bumbling snitchbug, which can take away that control very easily. And this of course is without even mentioning enemies knocking Pikmin around, or even when the bomb rock gets up and starts chasing you down because it's a bomb dweevil. Even the strategy of running ahead with just a captain won't work for all of them, as some traps are actually programmed to only trigger when Pikmin are with you. And I didn't even mention the falling rocks before. Those might even be more bull. They are often placed in places where movement is limited, such as the areas made of nothing but long pathways. And I still say the whole idea of the traps isn't player friendly because like Dazz said in the review, there's no consistency to what will and what will not trigger these traps. Some work only when there's Pikmin, some work without, sometimes a large enemy will have a trap near them, sometimes they won't. There's no tell beforehand, and it would even moving around in dungeons frustrating even if you somehow knew the game inside and out well enough to know just how these traps are spawned and how they're placed every time, due to constantly having to stop, back up, and then go after the bomb, or falling rocks, or whatever else, is done.
@rikithelegendaryheropon8135
@rikithelegendaryheropon8135 7 лет назад
dusknoir64 Damn, you wrote an essay. While Riki definetly see your point, most of the time (played this game as an 11 year old) Riki never have a problem with most traps, even near snitchbugs of either type. However Riki forget to mention 1 more bullshit type of trap, traps that only activate when pikmin are carrying something back to base or digging something up, worst in Bulblax Kingdom and Cavern of Chaos. These traps, especially when they are bomb rock/dweevil traps, make you need to baby pikmin back to base, and restrict multitasking. But Riki never once have issues with traps around enemies, but Riki can see how people have issues with traps around enemies, especially difficult enemies to deal with like Bulbears and Blowhogs (Withering and Puffy specifically).
@dusknoir64
@dusknoir64 7 лет назад
Sorry about how long that was. I tend to go on a while when the subject is video game design. But you actually reminded me about those ones that only work with Pikmin carrying things back. I actually completely forgot those. Those are probably the ones that go against any sort of logic the most. Because I can't think of any sensible reason why the developers put that in a game where they want you to multitask. You aren't supposed to babysit your Pikmin 24/7 and suddenly they want you to keep a close eye on them just in case a rock who gained a perverse sense of sentience decides to fuck you? That just seems like a dick move more than anything. However the enemy I recall falling bomb rocks being the biggest problem around was the Gatling Groinks, because if I am remembering this correctly, their attacks can actually trigger bomb rocks. Not to mention with them regenerating after death and the previously mentioned traps, you can just get bombed while you expect your Pikmin to take care of that death goldfish.
@Pikmaniak
@Pikmaniak 6 лет назад
Honestly, traps are some of what makes Pikmin 2's caves feel so unique and threatening compared the above ground areas, and as an avid Pikmin fan (as if my name wasn't a dead giveaway already), I personally found those tense moments of uncertainty to be one the list of the games' biggest strengths. The randomness of them and the fact that you can't simply plan for them adds excitement and chaos to the game, which is exactly what a Pikmin game should have. Looks cute and peaceful at a glance, but then all hell breaks loose. I love it. The contradictory nature of that is what makes Pikmin 2 so amazing in my opinion. Pikmin 3 by comparison has little to none of that. Whether you're a veteran or a novice at Pikmin, the hazards and traps will always shake you to your core and reward you for playing cautiously, but punish you for being careless.
@IHTTYWTM
@IHTTYWTM Год назад
I like how this was 5 years ago
@caseykaufman7488
@caseykaufman7488 7 лет назад
i honestly believe the pikmin types work well, even if yellows are more important, and purples are okay
@BreakerBoxx
@BreakerBoxx 6 лет назад
4:02 I think im wrong but it sounds like Gluttons Kitchen or the bug level thing
@linguine4500
@linguine4500 3 года назад
This game is very divided between people, some like it the least, some like it the most Also the gatling groink only kills if it's a direct hit on pikmin
@xionne7849
@xionne7849 Год назад
I forgot that the blue Pikmin were coded to be eaten first XD
@carmalizedvegetation5096
@carmalizedvegetation5096 3 года назад
The Raging long legs isn't actually random. It moves faster the more damage you deal in each phase
@wesleyem3
@wesleyem3 7 лет назад
I agree that Pikmin 2 isn't perfect, but it is by far the best game in the series. The difficulty can be frustrating but it's very rewarding. And the music is super good. Much better than just a 6/10. Yeah it isn't memorable in many cases, but it at least does fit the atmosphere of where you are. Many tracks are extremely fun to listen to while working.
@user-kq9fh3cw3d
@user-kq9fh3cw3d 7 лет назад
WAIT,this channel isnt abandoned
@Obstagoon862
@Obstagoon862 4 года назад
19:49 Umm, there are 2 Unspeakable Wonders... (they're both on the bottom row (above the Japanese/PAL exclusives))
@christophechattou5693
@christophechattou5693 6 лет назад
Pikmin 2 is my favorite pikmin game Because it has alot of bosses, the white pikmin is my favorite pikmin, no day limit, no need for food
@mrusername5
@mrusername5 7 лет назад
They're all perfect :)
@terrafrm4245
@terrafrm4245 7 лет назад
Holy shit We meet again
@mrusername5
@mrusername5 7 лет назад
Where did we meet before?
@terrafrm4245
@terrafrm4245 7 лет назад
Jacend Haedox's Splatoon video
@Drake_Waffle
@Drake_Waffle 7 лет назад
Kylo Hen how about splatonTO
@mrusername5
@mrusername5 7 лет назад
Sr Pelo ;)
@TonyDGunner
@TonyDGunner 6 лет назад
Actually when you hold a pikmin you can press a button to change the pikmins type. Forgot which button though. Might be the C stick or the Dpad
@Nic_2751
@Nic_2751 Год назад
I still love this game despite all my gripes with it
@rosel2452
@rosel2452 5 лет назад
also i know i'm late so these won't get read but i feel like things getting harder as days go on is more of a one hundred percent completion thing. They wanted to make it so that going to each area to get more treasure isn't the same romp every single time, some things change. Not to mention it's incredibly realistic, i know not many people like to use realism in their reviews but if you think of this world as a real living breathing ecosystem it makes sense for creatures to move, for more to appear and for some to disappear, for things to change. It FITS and i like it. I don't think it was meant to harass struggling players, as honestly most struggling players are still going to get by fairly decently and probably get what they need to complete the game normally by these days. I feel it was done to appeal to those that play longer on purpose, that want more from the game, that like a sense of realism in its environments.
@shinyprisma6085
@shinyprisma6085 3 года назад
i really thought you wouldn't give the rating a 6/10 sure, it isn't memorable but you praised it so much for its immersion, it caught me off guard.
@BMN_Prime
@BMN_Prime 5 лет назад
The way you play reminds me of my 6y old self
@coopasoopa536
@coopasoopa536 7 лет назад
MMMMG SOMETHING TELLS ME I WILL ENJOY THIS
@clintwoodlock4974
@clintwoodlock4974 7 лет назад
I've been around since the first video and your voice sure has changed a lot since then. Edit: great video by the way I agree with a lot of your points, but I think that the music in this game was better than you made it out to be. For example most of the tracks that you played were the cave themes and while they aren't great they serve their purpose. The main area themes are too good for a 6/10
@AGAMER360
@AGAMER360 7 лет назад
I have played pikmin 2 and i think its great to me.
@chesphendshil8270
@chesphendshil8270 5 лет назад
god pikmin 2 is so damn full of content. obviously i agree.
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