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Here's an idea: Game Of Thrones owes its success to piracy.
If you're like us, you LOVE Game of Thrones. But if you're also like us, you may not, technically, have... cable. So how are we seeing this amazing show on HBO, which is stuck behind a pay wall? A huge amount of viewers (not us of course, no no no) are downloading the show illegally. But despite being the most pirated show of 2012, the Game of Thrones DVDs are top sellers, breaking HBO's own sales records!! Could it be that piracy is actually HELPING the show?!
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@shinemperor8950 10 лет назад

Piracy has convinced me more to buy a product more than an single piece of advertisement. Seriously. I've watched s series, and if I liked it, I purchased it. Same with movies and gaming. In fact, for gaming, there was a long time where I would pirate, play, buy. In an age of advertising that doesn't help, deceitful demos and game critics on the take... the only thing I have left to trust is my own experience. So yeah, pirating has led me to buy more games than any advertizing could ever expect to. But this is because the industry is run by business and marketing people... and not gamers...

@MeepChangeling 10 лет назад

This is it in a nutshell. Our marketing strategies have actually started to make people NOT buy things. How the hell is a minute long video of people playing in the snow then flashing a bag of chips showing how awesome your chips are? If ads actually you know, DEMONSTRATED THEIR PRODUCT, there would be less piracy. Better yet, make piracy legal. Digital copies are 100% free! You like it, you paypal some bucks their way, pay what you feel it is worth to you.

@e7venjedi 10 лет назад

Why can't I give more thumbs up? I feel like there is a flaw....

@e7venjedi 10 лет назад

Kyle Rhulain Or better yet. Develop new ways of monetizing. Free to play games.... Kickstarter... :D Woo! Go internet! Go us!

@DASding148 9 лет назад

Without piracy I would've never even seen game Of Thrones

@cheetah1347 7 лет назад

same

@SuzakuX 10 лет назад

Piracy helps generate positive word of mouth, and buzz is a key to making any television show popular. Even if a pirate doesn't purchase products, they provide a service by advertising the show to friends and family.

@GoodTimeSaddam 10 лет назад

Now whenever I buy a CD or DVD I feel like I'm donating money.

@AQGOAT24 10 лет назад

Breaking Bad creator Vince Gilligan once said that Netflix has really helped Breaking Bad grow in popularity. Even though Netflix doesn't count as piracy, but it shares similar advantages where it is an accessible product although Netflix costs money it is still quite affordable for most people.

@plainlake 9 лет назад

I never bought Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag because I heard that _pirating_ games were illegal.

@MeepChangeling 10 лет назад

The world at large needs to realize that the vast majority of all pirates download things for free because we are poor and actually cannot afford to blow 60 bucks on a new video game if it turns out to be crap (and they often do). Thus, the media is downloaded viewed, and appraised. If its loved, it is often bought, if its hated its deleted. The act of piracy is only threatening if you assume that nerds will not give money to you after tying out your product compleatly unrestricted for free. Which we usually will if we like it. Piracy can be thought of as a "Personal Value Evaluation Process" for determining if your thing is worth my cash. If we reorganized the market to maek digital copies compleatly free ligitimantly it would not actualy end the industry, it would help it! Amazing things can be done via donation, jsut look at the things we have kickstarted! We are happy to give you money for more of something we know we like or even jsut as a thank you for the entertainment. In a world like this the only diffrence would be that entertainers would need to step up their game and make sure that what they produced was, you know, actually good because they could not scam people out of money with a crappy at the core but outwardly interesting looking film.

@OfficialDJSoru 10 лет назад

Not to mention: no game company makes a demo these days and even the ones that do make the demos, they only show the good bits and when you get the game it gives a bitter taste because the good parts are only 10% of the game and the other 90% are dissapointing.

@MeepChangeling 10 лет назад

DJ Soru Yeah. The industry and consumers would greatly benefit from a reworking of the base way they sell things. But no one will do this because humans are moronic slaves to tradition.

@CharlieHofigan 10 лет назад

If all media relied purely off of donation I don't think the industry would stay afloat for very long. Yes, maybe people that want whatever the product is badly enough to pirate it would be willing to give their money to the creators, but the majority of the populous would just take their product and not give anything back. Think about it: if you go to the grocery store and find, for instance, that they are giving out free apples, you are not going to pay them for it. You'll just take your apples and leave.

@e7venjedi 10 лет назад

Charlie Hofigan Except that if your theory is right, we would soon be living in a world without art/entertainment. Which leads me to believe we would come up with *alternate forms of monetization* [kickstarter, free to play]

@Washeek 10 лет назад

Charlie Hofigan And you sir, are wrong... There are a number of arguments against what you are pondering ;-) For example a pay what you want restaurant - yes this one actually exists and is making quite the money, Humble bundle sales, Kickstarter... you name them...

@MathAndComputers 10 лет назад

To clarify an important point that was muddied in this episode, downloading media without permission isn't "stealing"; it's copying, because the act of copying media doesn't remove or limit another person's access to that media. Copying, quite ironically, has much *harsher* penalties than theft in the U.S. and Canada. It's also why, despite their huge spending on propaganda suggesting that downloading is theft, *none* of the court cases brought about by the RIAA or MPAA have charged anyone with theft: there are reasonable limitations on the penalties for theft of goods under $5000, whereas the penalties for copying are absolutely absurd and debilitating, to the point where almost no middle-class individual could possibly ever pay the fines.

@GrayTimber 10 лет назад

Most torrenters I have talked to buy a lot of media and use downloading/streaming as a way to... test the waters. Who wants to buy something without knowing they'll like it. And yeah, I'm pretty sure there a quite a few shows that owe piracy for their level of success. Who'll support something they can't risk that much money on a maybe. People torrent, they find out what they like, they support it. It's the way things should be, in my opinion.

@wowawewah 9 лет назад

GrayTimber When you like and really appreciate the show why wouldn't want to show your support.

@dookey 10 лет назад

Take down one piracy site, two new will open. If you can't fight the enemy, make him your ally. There are just too many pirates, MPAA and RIAA should just give up.

@keters159 9 лет назад

HAIL PIRATE BAY!

@hajarmdn4883 8 лет назад

as a book nerd and a broke student. I need to pirate books before deciding to buy them. I will pay no money for a piece of garbage which I will not read again. Books are an investments and they need to be of high quality for me to go out of my way to buy them. so I think if a creator is good at making at making his products, he'll probably will have people buy them with no care of piracy, in fact it'll help.

@Gross126 10 лет назад

If the piracy bothers them so much, HO should create a system with which we can stream episodes live and pay for that particular show per season or per episode.

@DASding148 9 лет назад

I think that exists

@rocker041212 8 лет назад

Yes, that will solve so much! *pops open recording program* Oh...

@theravenousrabbit3671 10 лет назад

I have all the books, I have all the DvD's, I have three game of thrones shirts and I haven't watched a single legitimate episode of Game of Thrones. Guess what? Nerds pirate, nerds pay money for shit they don't need like stupid shirts that say "Hodor". Yeah, sorry, but I've used more money on game of thrones than my friend who has a HBO subscription.

@666ILIKECAKE 10 лет назад

Piracy may speed up the growth of the fanbase, while not free, is going to be a profit in the long run. Attacking piracy will not only anger fans but also slow down the growth of the fanbase. A lot of hardcore fans will end up paying more for merchandise than they would for the DVD's. Guilt or a will to support the developers can be strong emotions to fans.

@zombieGI 10 лет назад

the consumer is not protected. If for example i could get my money back when i see a bad movie i might go to the movies. I would never pay for a movie i know nothing about, so being able to see it for free might encourage me to see it in a cinema. Ofc if u look at it the other way around people could go to a movie lie and get their money back if this was the practice. I am not saying piracy is providing consumer protection for all who download pirated content, but since movie reviews are not up to our standard of criticism (dont get me started on videogames where criticism is bought by game developers) its their own damn fault so many of us go to piracy. They try to screw us over to make more money and piracy is our answer. So its not that piracy helps the product its that piracy might be helping the product if the product is good

@SingleDropOfIink 8 лет назад

I pirate half of everything but that's only because I don't have the money to pay for it. I pay for music and stuff as often as I can. I have so much respect for many of the musicians and artists and directors and developers. Most of them put so much work into their content and they've earned every cent they squeeze out of my dusty wallet.

@sackofpeas2470 10 лет назад

Hold the phone...there's a GoT beer? Well, if I want to be a good fan, better buy a pack or several dozen.

@SinerAthin 10 лет назад

I wonder what it'll taste like. What taste could possibly represent the show best? ... the taste of blood and trickery?

@sackofpeas2470 10 лет назад

SinerAthin I was gonna go with the taste of full frontal nudity, but blood and trickery would be a close second.

@SinerAthin 10 лет назад

Miccollo I kept hearing everyone talk about the nudity, but when I watched the show, there wasn't actually that much :P Not sure what that is all about.

@MavenCree 10 лет назад

Yup. I download GoT. Then I buy the blurays. Their blurays have enough extra content and are well enough put together for me to put my money down. I support media I think is worth it but I don't want to wait. GoT airs months later where I live from the original air date. Why the hell would I want to wait? Space channel here in Canada figured that out right quick. They used to air Doctor Who two weeks after it aired in the UK. I didn't want to wait. Neither did anyone else I know. Now it airs same day and I watch it on my tv commercials and all. It's 2013. Waiting can be a liability.

@Yaarbiriah 11 лет назад

''paying the iron price..'' love it, actually got up from this chair, went and told the signif. other that line.

@nirrliquid 10 лет назад

I've been working along side the cable industries for half a decade and I can tell you for certain: They have absolutely no clue how to deal with piracy or over-the-top video in general. Like in any business, building high entry barriers is the only way they can fight cord-cutting. HBO fits into all this by being the only reason to subscribe to cable - and thus helping cable companies maintain their advantage. My forecast is that inevitably, they will have to succumb. Piracy, then, acts to catalyze this change, and hopefully bring a more efficient commercial channel between content creators and their fans.

@ChaingunCassidy 10 лет назад

Nintendo took a hit with the n64 and the Gamecube because of how hard their games were to pirate. Whereas Sony and Microsoft made a bit more because their systems were easier to pirate and therefore more attractive to buyers.

@ChaingunCassidy 10 лет назад

TvSonic Serbia That's a very different failure, the Dreamcast was expensive and SEGA didn't have much brand integrity after the Mega Drive/Genesis add ons and the SEGA Saturn, plus during the time of the Dreamcast I doubt many people would have known about pirating in general. It wasn't until early in the reign of the PS2 and Xbox did many people find out that you could pirate games.

@Katra21 9 лет назад

I know pirating made me support things I love more. My prime example: Megamind, I thought I wouldn't like this movie so I downloaded it rather than committing money to the theater. After I did I was so hooked that I bought nearly twenty movie tickets for myself and friends to see it in theaters. If I hadn't pirated this movie I would not have seen it until it hit Netflix and I wouldn't have invested any money in its theatrical release.

@davidesallese3864 9 лет назад

Katra21 YEAH! And if it weren't for obtaining things in a grey area of legality I wouldn't have purchased complete box sets for: The Office (US), The Office (UK), Parks and Recreation, Community, 30 Rock, Seinfeld, Arrested Development, etc.

@Forscythe80 10 лет назад

I watch it streamed online for free, because I cant justify pay-tv for one show, but I will always buy it on bluray when it is released a year later. They still make money off me. The same amount they'd make if I just wait a year. Since I will buy the discs, it seems less bad than if I stream it but never buy it.

@frenchw1nter 10 лет назад

EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS VIDEO WAS SPOT-ON EXCELLENT. You sir, are an excellent human being.

@MissMusicLover131 9 лет назад

I watch a tv show and movies online to decide whether or not to buy the dvds/go to the cinema. I think it's like watching a gameplay walkthrough to decide if you want the game or listening to music on RU-vid to decide if you want to buy it. Also, watching movies online gives me access to media that hasn't been released in my country, or simply won't be for an unknown reason (idiots). Not that I pirate, this is totally hypothetical and stuff!

@zoobMer 8 лет назад

can't afford to see it leagally, but will buy merch to support the show.

@essennagerry 7 лет назад

zoob m One series I actually want to buy when I have money one day is jjk fffspd hhhhrtz gtzhbbbvi can you hear me? ppppppt the organisation is trying to sabotage us again gggggghttt meet me at the spot sssssftrhj El. Psy. Congree

@terraflops 9 лет назад

pirating lets you see the show and most young people do not have cable or home phones. GRRM can thank the pirates for showing me what a great show which led me to SPEND money on books and novelties.

@TheToneBender 9 лет назад

i bought the books because i liked the show (which i pirated. arrrgggg)

@CarlosIsDown 9 лет назад

I bought the books... but I also pirated the e-books cuz sometimes I don't want to take a 1000 page tome around and would rather read on my broken tablet.

@50calRussia 10 лет назад

I have to do a 4 month long project on Copyright Laws and Piracy, and this video really helped me out. Thanks, Mike!

@YoungLiteTV 10 лет назад

if i owned a corporate film studio, I would release pirated copies of my own movies. It wouldn't be "ideal" quality. That way, if people like it enough, they'll be more inclined to purchase a dvd or see it in theaters.

@SangoProductions213 10 лет назад

or, they'd see that it's not ideal quality, and since pirated versions are normally representative of the "real" version, then they'd think that the "real" version is equally poor, but you have to pay money for it, and thus, you just lost your pirate demographic.

@fede6811 10 лет назад

If you download a movie and then go to the cine to see it, download a tv serie or game and then buy it legit, id call it a demo... and taking back your money is when steam decides that your account buys too many games and then decides to freeze your account, not letting you play... and then you pirate the shit out of the game, justice!!! (STEAM give me back my account you bitches!!!!)

@DASding148 9 лет назад

Wait, that actually happens?

@fede6811 9 лет назад

DASding148 apparently it does -.- I still havent got it back and I already de-installed steam, screw them im pirating the crap outta them if i want to play a "steam only" game

@DASding148 9 лет назад

FDVlogger GabeN I trusted you ;_;

@fede6811 9 лет назад

DASding148 Then give me my account back! I bought a crap load of games -.-"

@DASding148 9 лет назад

FDVlogger how am I supposed to do it I'm just a GabeNs witness

@Saifan95 11 лет назад

The "dead wrong" reference was pretty good :)

@GreenskinHolland 11 лет назад

"I take what is mine, I pay the iron price" I laughed so hard :D

@typeer 8 лет назад

Broad awareness of a piece of media is invaluable to those who participate in its creation. This has been the case since Homer, whose accounts achieved their timeless stature based on their broad subscription, based on the value audiences impart on them. Copyright law that does not account for this dialectical relationship between producers and consumers will always be widely transgressed as it doesn't respect the actual nature of the exchange it claims to protect.

@staceysmith2787 10 лет назад

Something people forget to take into consideration is the amount of merchandise that illegal downloaders buy and the cost of merchandise in comparison to the cost of buying dvds and pay tv.

@adambencen321 11 лет назад

YES!!! Finally! You get it!!! The same argument goes for the world of music. When one downloads an album and they end up loving it, they're WAY more likely to go to buy the album, buy tickets to their show, and buy merch when they attend that show. When a band is making a record they(optimally) put it out to be understood and connected with. When people connect with music they support it. This kind of logic can be applied to many different matters concerning intellectual property in my opinion.

@osakathainen 11 лет назад

"Support" is the word. Relationship between artist and audience is shifting from buying-selling to admiring&supporting. I pirate a lot of stuff, and I buy a lot, and when I do buy a book or game or something I feel like I've just put that money right into the artist's hat (minus the part that goes to publisher), not like I had purchased something. The Path is so great that I bought it twice: long ago, directly from their site (notably DRM-free), and now on Steam just to support Tale of Tales.

@mitchelldavis482 9 лет назад

I would love to see studies delving into the relationship between merch consumption, and the relative number of viewers and paid viewers of a show.

@levishu991 11 лет назад

about the reaction thing,here's mine. "Oh great man of knowledge, you open and blow my mind, you give me hope for humanity!"

@Megapolitano 11 лет назад

The first season arrived a few months later here in Latin America and everyone had already seen it. The second one was only a few days later and it just showed how fast piracy can be. Now the third will be shown at the same time in the Americas. This speaks miles of how much piracy has helped to the people of the third world to get media they didn't have much access before.

@martha368 10 лет назад

i only "pirate" american tv shows because they aren't on british tv until months later. i do legitimately buy DVDs though. i do this with game of thrones, hannibal, supernatural. they're not losing profit from me watching them live via livestream then me buying them legit later. i see nothing morally wrong with what i do.

@tackogronday 7 лет назад

I once got a letter in the mail from Comcast warning about my downloading habits. Since then I've gone 100% legal besides sites like freetvproject etc. But it's true... when I had a library of pirated music, the artists that I truly loved and appreciated I went way out of my way to order their really old albums, in old formats, or I would go out of my way to promote the music that I just downloaded. I wouldn't suggest people download it like I did but that's free advertising at the same time. I can't say it for all who have downloaded/pirated stuff but I personally fall into that "I downloaded... I love you... I will support you with cash" group.

@matthewmagda4971 2 года назад

This is probably also a generational phenomenon in that well-moneyed older folks have the means to pay for multiple subscriptions on top of terrestrial television but lack the desire to buy swag, merch and accoutrements or attend fan events. For younger folks, the opposite might be true.

@manbehindthewires 11 лет назад

As an oconus viewer, the "time-wall" is the one that hits me hardest, not the cash wall. Particularly since everything is on social media the second it happens now. I often have to take an internet embargo around the release of a film/game/comic/tvshow to avoid seeing something I don't want to see (yet). The longer I have to avoid something (up to 6 months for some American movies) increases my desire to plunder the goods.

@strengthbuild 11 лет назад

I did a massive research paper on online piracy and didn't see this until now. Wow the information presented in this could have been the nail in the coffin.

@53p3n7 11 лет назад

Idk if anyone else has pointed this out, but I LOVE that you have Marquee Moon in your background. Great album. And as for that guy who asked if you got the set up from RWJ, a ridiculous number of bloggers use this setup and RWJ was NOT the first.

@Themightyphill79 11 лет назад

Not enough love for the "Dead Wrong" reference.

@Ziperzap 11 лет назад

This is the first time I've ever cited RU-vid as a source for an essay

@andersonandrighi4539 11 лет назад

One of the things some content providers do not see is that their market will not have enough money to buy everything that is there to buy. Pirating maintain interest in something and people can buy it later. Unless you are rocking more than 100K a year, chances are you are struggling in things you can buy and things you should wait for a price drop to buy.

@girl122 11 лет назад

"Half the number of wood chips viewers?" Captions you are drunk.

@amandasamson4513 8 лет назад

I agree. I download a lot of shows, or stream them and then later buy the seasons

@havoc092 11 лет назад

I can say that software piracy in general had a huge element of people that were simply sick of being lied to by box art and conned thusly out of large sums of money. Once opened, the majority of vendors would not give refunds. And the politicians wouldn't craft laws to protect people from it, so they took the situation in hand and started pirating to find the goods they should buy. The entire game industry was forced to offer trail versions in order to prove the worth as a result.

@Cowbazooka 11 лет назад

One way that piracy can help sales is, even though this mostly relates to games, devs can look at what games are getting pirated most and then determine better pricing of that game to boost the number of consumers.

@Avianwriter 11 лет назад

This is really good for sales as fans will start buying the books and magazines, and having a popular Manga become an Anime gives the TV companies good publicity, but there's a really big flaw that a lot of fans get up in arms about: Manga's are written on a weekly basis, published in magazines like "Shonen Jump", "Clamp"(Which went out of business), "Tokyopop", or "Shojo Beat".

@cnmaster01 11 лет назад

When I got into anime, I bought almost everything through the legitimate channels and even have the box of my first VHS purchase framed. What I realized very quickly was this was becoming very difficult. My favorite franchises were pulled off US shelves before I could finish them. I literally had to travel hundreds of miles across several state lines to even START my collection of Gundam DVDs! Piracy makes watching things easier, but I still throw hundreds at legit releases where I actually can!

@falahaldosari7649 11 лет назад

For a university project, I recently looked at academic articles on the subject of piracy of television and movies, and surprisingly found a good deal of material that supports Petrarca's comment and that file sharing of film/tv do have a positive effect on sales the associated commercial merchandise. The internet, and more specifically P2P networks are a means of spreading buzz about movies and tv shows. This is ironic given the campaigns the MPAA and law enforcement have against piracy.

@hazonku 11 лет назад

Nice to see people within the industry are actually realizing how piracy works.

@DoctorMikeWilson 11 лет назад

Hold on. There's a Game Of Thrones Beer? O.O *runs around all crazy like*

@SomeNerdyRando 11 лет назад

Also I would like to point out that there really is no separation of poor and personal taste. Anytime some claims another person has poor taste, they are really just saying they don't agree with that persons taste. There is no objective good and bad taste. There is just taste.

@thebiglabowski3 11 лет назад

I dug through, like, 5000 comments to finally find this and say: "This is an astoundingly good point. We need to reconnect with value being in some way related to effort (I got this valuable thing 'cuz I sweat damnit!". I think there's a silver lining, though, because once we solidly win the piracy war (p2p 2.0 omg, ftw) then the barrier to piracy will be nill and money will only be had by truly inspiring people to love and support your work. Hollywood could use some of that pressure."

@MySpaceBarsBroken0o 11 лет назад

I am broke so I streamed the first two seasons. Half way through the first season I told my mom and friends about the series and started a ripple effect. My mom, who also doesn't have much money, told her boyfriend and he bought the box set and even got a Game of Thrones wallpaper for his computer, meanwhile my friends and I started discussing it on forums. Even though I didn't purchase any merch I still helped them earn money.

@dead_rebel 11 лет назад

I didn't catch on to how awesome Game of Thrones was until I was told by numerous friends to watch watch it; once I did, by downloading it because I don't have HBO on demand in South Africa, I became a massive fan - books, boardgame, DVD, etc. I didn't catch on until someone I respected recommended it and they definitely downloaded it immediately so yes, downloaded helps me get into it at least.

@8amara 11 лет назад

I started GoT on a pirated website to first see if I even would LIKE then show. Once I got hooked, I went on to watch the next season and the current one on HBO as a paying customer. I have followed the same process for most of the shows I watch. The only time the formula changes is when the shows are on Netflix. Then I'll usually catch up with the available episodes there and continue on the respective channel.

@gorgolyt 11 лет назад

I lol'd at "iron price".

@polyheartmony 11 лет назад

I would love an episode on how we get our news these days, particularly through news aggregates or twitter as opposed to the newspaper or CNN.

@TheWriter960 11 лет назад

Do an episode about the art differences of western cartoons and anime, BUT ALSO talk about the inherently different genre styles, how they deliver comedy, action, fantasy, sci-fi and the like and how they compare and contrast!!!

@Mitholas 11 лет назад

Maybe it's that someone who downloads is more likely to be empassioned with that particular medium, wants to try out the product in order to see which ones they want to support, and therefore downloads to sample and because they don't want to fall without something they are excited about. Especially true when you add the international aspect, as just about only the people in the country of origin get shows when they actually air.

@MagentaCooly 11 лет назад

Now that you mentioned it, I just now realised that I have boughten every anime that I've seen online. Who knew.

@ATStirzaker 10 лет назад

As a piss poor student I often pirate things I'm interested in. Games, music, film, etc. However, if I like what I get I will almost certainly save to up buy it to support the producers of such great content. The problem is that advertisements are (obviously) horrendously biased and game demos are rarely representative., I can't afford to waste any money on something that's not very good, but once the quality is verified I'm more than happy to pay.

@laughingfurry 11 лет назад

As I see it, it's always a benefit when content of any nature get's recognized by a larger audience. Because of the recognition, the people behind the content can profit. Although piracy is bad, I think a great alternative would be sampling. Allow fans of said content to use samples of the work to create tributes, perhaps allow deconstruction or remixing. This has helped anime and some games, seeing how such actions are often done in AMVs, MADs, and MEPs. Fan projects also contributed.

@dunnowy123 11 лет назад

That's so true. Anime is pretty hard to find on TV, BUT, anime culture is pretty big in some spots. And that is entirely to do with fans who may download anime, but then buy the manga, toys and merchandise not to support it or "their guilt", but just cause they love the show.

@geekymarianne 10 лет назад

I've downloaded copies of things *after* I've bought them too, like blu-rays and such. Sometimes it's just more convenient to have a plain video file that will work in any video player.

@K_H_P_ 11 лет назад

Let's do a parallel to music industry. With everyone making music, the trend has shifted from 'hey, listen to this song!' to 'hey, listen to MY song!'. Consumers are exposed to too many choice that the best marketing you could do is just to let them watch the show directly; free of charge. If they liked it, attachment still would form, the bond would lead them to buy DVDs, merchandises and what-not.

@TheOutsider69 11 лет назад

Not to mention each episode borders on 1gig, almost double that in high quality. People don't realize that not everyone has the hard drive capacity to download and KEEP each episode, which can lead people (like me) to purchase the actual discs.

@GRAFFDEMON 9 лет назад

I pirate the episodes. I don't have Sky+ or anything so TPB is pretty much the only way to get them on time, for me.

@lDhalisml 10 лет назад

OFCOURSE! This is the same with music. Without the ability to access content you cannot create attachment or even be exposed to it.

@pecosR0B 11 лет назад

Nice Biggie reference with the Dead Wrong track!

@xcupcakexheartagramx 10 лет назад

I absolutely believe piracy is helpful. It helps a show/song/movie/etc's popularity grow. Sure, there are people who steal it just because they can. But, there's an overwhelming majority of people who either can't access it in their country, don't want to wait for the dvd, can't afford it at the moment, or want to try before they buy. These people WILL support it when the dvd comes out. They will buy the books, the dvd's/blu-ray sets, posters, t-shirts, and all kinds of merchandise. They make videos, gifs, fanart, fanfiction. Pirates are some of your biggest fans. Especially people who feel guilty pirating. People who pirate something and become a fan are some of the most loyal and the most guilty. If I download an album and really love the artist, I'll go over the top to support them. I'll buy all their albums, their shirts, go to their concerts, tell other people how great they are, anything I can do to support them. Just because someone downloads doesn't mean they don't love and support the creators of the art they love.

@Hend0o0o0 11 лет назад

The reason I download popular shows such as Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead etc. is because here in Australia episodes usually aren't released until weeks (or months) after they air in America!

@pieblanc 11 лет назад

0:15 : "... Actually, winter is just leaving." I wish it were true. :-(

@stimmedtank 11 лет назад

An interesting episode would be about how anime and manga recapture a lot of 'childhood qualities'. Like friendship, or a blind hope and trust in people, some of the most succesful anime and manga are categorized as 'shonen' which basically means that they are for teenage boys and children, though many other age groups still love them.

@jerkfck 11 лет назад

Neil Gaiman's has an article about piracy, and it is very eye opening. He is a famous novelist, and was against piracy at the start. Funny thing happened, though. The places where most people torrented his books, places like Russia, sales went up by 600%. He correlates those extra sales to torrenting/file sharing. And, even later went on to deem file sharing as a modern day version of gifting/sharing a physical book, album, or movie with a friend.

@xEddyTheGr8x 11 лет назад

Piracy is definitely helping GoT. I live in Germany (& have no Pay-TV) and without the possibility of downloading it, I would probably never have had the chance to get a glance on a show, which is now my absolute favorite. I got the first 2 seasons & all 5 books standing around in my room & I'm gonna buy all the rest as well. If I'd have had to wait for german FreeTV, I would definitely have missed the greatest show so far (together with Breaking Bad, which has the same "story" for me)

@shokuraikimdragon 11 лет назад

The thing about television is that it has schedule almost no one has time for. When i want to watch something, it's much more convenient to stream online than sit down at 9pm/10pm central to watch one episode, when the entire season of something is online. Plus, the episode airing is probably so and so into a season when im just starting. And what if i don't want to buy something i might not like? If it's good enough, it will get my money. This is what i do when i buy Anime all the time. --Next

@Ocker3 11 лет назад

The Canadian RIAA actually did a study that Also showed that heavy downloaders were also heavy buyers of legit media. There's a story on Arstechnica titled "Study: P2P users buy more music; apathy, not piracy, the problem" that talks it. Btw, I hate that YT won't let us post external links

@SuziGenerous 11 лет назад

The studies that show that people who pirate don't buy the media may not have a long enough time lag between the pirating and the purchasing. Pirates may immediately buy by media when it becomes available, however they may wait until it becomes cheaper; they can buy it used; or when they need to make room in their storage. Media files are very large and aren't always the best quality (especially when in the stolen form). DVDs are more permanent and more portable.

@dunespeak 11 лет назад

Neil Gaiman said it best, I think. "People were discovering me through being pirated. Then they were going out and buying the real books, and when a new book would come out in Russia, it would sell more and more copies." Basically he compares it to the library, you discover a series through a source where you otherwise (for monetary or other reasons) cannot obtain it, and then you like it so much that you actually reward the author for making such a great series with actual cash.

@e8tballz 11 лет назад

Absolutely! I find downloading a flimsy download with bad video quality and sound if anything gives me a taste of the product and if I like it. I usually end up buying the DVD's as well as other merchandise.

@DaemonEX0 11 лет назад

Once again, you nailed everything. And typing that just gave me some very scary mental images.

@aroman504 11 лет назад

It's actually quite easy to explain, Example: if you go buy a house, you don't just buy it, you actually see it first, if you like it you buy it, why would I buy the series DVD if I haven't seen it, I'm not buying crap, as simple as that, if I see a serie and I consider it's good I'll make sure to buy to support the industy, creator, etc so that the series itself can continue, I have downloaded (OMG), scrubs, that 70's show, dexter and some more, bought them afterwards since I liked them.

@MariaVosa 11 лет назад

This year for the first time we could access HBO in my country via internet and watch new episodes of GoT on our computers with only minor delay (not 1 year delay as was the case earlier). And for a very reasonable price. A "friend of mine" who had previously downloaded episodes signed up and now pays legitimately to watch. Same "friend" also bought Season 1 and 2 on blue-ray. So there's that.

@KeyMakerAlchemist 11 лет назад

The kind of piracy that is usually done, just downloading something so you can watch it because you can't otherwise access it, in many cases is just that: a way of enjoying media you can't otherwise get to. However, once you do have other ways of accessing the media, you instead change over to those, generally because once you have a legitimate access point, it is easier to view the material (easier to have a DVD than to have to find download links.)

@Avianwriter 11 лет назад

Dear PBS Idea Channel, I was catching up on your latest posts and came across "Piracy and Game of Thrones". While I have never watched the show, the comments afterward peaked my interest. Especially those about Anime. I am a huge Manga/Anime fan and know quite a bit about different shows and the general situation.

@AllHailLunesta 11 лет назад

Yeah, yeah, exactly! That seems like a really relevant thing to have a topic on.

@logh2011 11 лет назад

As for anime, I would love you to do an episode on anime as a representation of the Japanese subconscious. I've always been fascinated by the huge difference between the extremely reserved, rigid, super-polite, dissembling outer Japanese persona, and the CRAZY weird hyper-emotional stuff that seems to make up a good deal of anime.

@falahaldosari7649 11 лет назад

And to follow up: MPAA has studies that also support that file sharers are more likely to consume the commercially available media and associated products than people who do not download pirated material. In an interview, an MPAA official also said piracy is never going away, and this is probably true given the way digital technology keeps advancing and the movie/tv industry cannot keep up with the changes and greater efficiency.

@meatrace 11 лет назад

Agreed. File sharing is no different than sharing other property. If I loan a book to someone, does that rob the publisher of well-deserved revenue? Not likely.

@silviemonk5556 11 лет назад

It's not that I wrote it 3 years ago. The point was 3 years of strong sales, then pirated. Within 30 days sales dropped to nearly zero. Piracy is so quick and crippling, that coming up with an alternative means of income is nearly impossible in such a short time frame.

@MrFernet07 11 лет назад

I agree, I live in Germany, I own the books and all the piracy is creating a positive feedback loop. Also it should be noted that the GfK is highly renowned company, world wide

@niematakiegonumeru9393 10 лет назад

It's more then understandable. When you know something and you like something it's much easier for you to justify spending money on that one thing. People who download lots of music are people who usually knows and loves music more, are more into it and are more likely to spend money on their passion. Same with GoT. When we found with my friends GoT board game, we were so trilled we bought it on spot. Not because it's the best board game in there or that we buy lots of board games - it was mostly so that we could play it after watching GoT episodes (don't ask how did we get the episode).