Is Red Bull Formula 1 Academy Really That Bad? 

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Excluding the shortfalls in the driver management in the Red Bull team, the RB Academy is probably the best there is. We wouldn't have seen Seb, Max, Sainz, and Ricciardo the way we know them if it wasn't for RB. Giving opportunities to scores of youngsters and making their pathway to F1 a bit easier? I'd take that any day.

They are good at finding talent, and they are great at wasting it

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RB Academy is literally us when we play motorsport manager: focus entirely on #1 driver for the sponsor target, #2 driver is just there because we need 2 drivers.

In Landos’ grill the grid episode, he said that he’d had a meeting with Helmut who asked the weight of an F1 car and when he couldn’t answer he said “Max would know, Max knows everything about the car”. Lando said the main reason he didn’t go ahead with Redbull was he already knew that Max was their number one.

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If you'd look at the Red Bull Academy with the attitude that "so many drivers failed", nearly all youth academies from football clubs would be a complete failure. Most of the young talents in those academies will fail at some point during their years in the academy or after they've reached the first team.

Great video Tommo, Callan's insight in particular was really interesting. RB have shown the most amount of commitment to the young driver program out of any teams. This is a cut throat and ruthless sport, you know what you've signed up for if you join the RB program. Its sink or swim. Its unfair and disingenuous to say that RB ruined a driver's career when they were the ones to give him that opportunity in the first place, this is competitive sport and its survival of the fittest.

No Redbull academy = no Vettel, Ricciardo, Verstappen

Marko needs to get his ego in line, and get some talents back.

Fun fact: 8 of the drivers of the current f1 grid were in Red Bull drivers Academy

I think a lot of people miss out when saying "oh the RBDA ruined so many careers of so many young talents with so much potential", when in reality, this drivers probably just had the chance to be there because of RedBull's backing. Think about Alex Albon himself, when around 2012 he was dropped from the program because he wasn't performing and two years later he was picked up by the same program. Can we really assume, whatever talent Alex got at that time, that he would be able to climb up all these steps into F1 if Red Bull didn't pick him up again? Very unlikely. Thousands and thousands of promising young drivers have to back out of the dream of becoming an F1 driver because of the lack of sponsorship and backing, and Red Bull is there to prevent that as much as they can. And yes, they slaughter them in the same speed that they bring them up, but ask a Alex Albon, a Kvyat, a Bourdais, if they had the chance to go back to the past and prevent themselves from going into the Red Bull Academy and experiencing all that pressure and expectation that they had, to have a chance to be picked up by another academy. I don't think they would. Because they had the chance, they took it, they lived it, it hasn't gone right, but it's still SO MUCH BETTER than not having the shot at all. Because if they hadn't, they probably wouldn't get even close to the success and maybe money they have today, to live a better life for himself and his parents. A bit of a ramble, sorry for that, but it's just that it's easy to throw hatred at the RBDA for "ruining" these careers, and not to look at how much they did to these guys. It's like managing a store from a huge company in your country. You have to do your job well, because it's a high risk job, and envolves big money in it, and if you don't do you job right, they'll take you out. That's just life.

Why does everyone forget that Carlos Sainz is also from the same Redbull academy...and He has proven to be a Very Reliable, And May be even a future WDC...He has got success in Renault, McLaren and Has started very well in Ferrari as well....So, Redbull academy is doing it's job very well,i.e- Producing World class Drivers but they only has 2 seats ( That drivers aspire to be)...So, is It Redbulls fault, May be ...But Atleast Redbull is giving them a chance to showcase their talent...and If Redbull doesn't pick you, but if you're good enough, may be Someone will pick you up...And I think Redbull deserves credit for that Atleast....

The management is not that good, but it’s hard with so much talent. I do appreciate how they push their drivers unlike the Renault/Alpine Academy.

Verstappen was never ‘really’ in the academy. He signed only a couple of months before he was announced at Toro Rosso. I think he didn’t even race for them.

They have a real good academy but I also think they have too many drivers in the academy, on top of that verstappen is locked for prolly 7+ years

On the mental health topic, it's outrageous that so many young drivers move away from their parents across the world to pursue their dreams (I'm thinking Danny Ric at 17, Perez at 15) and yet they're left to totally fend for themselves. I can't imagine how difficult that must be and the damage it must do

The Academy seems fine. Red Bull just isn’t good at managing drivers

They're good at scouting talent but worst at giving them all equal attention and helping them actually once they make it to F1

If people complain about RB JUNIORS i have one tip for ya look at merc juniors how many drove a Merc for a full season

Don't care what Redbull fans say. Unless they get ragunathan on the academy they will never be good

Red Bull are the Chelsea of F1. They hoard as much young talent as possible, keep the best and dump the rest

At least Red Bull actually give their development drivers a chance. If Russell was on the Red Bull programme he could quite possibly be a race winner by now.

Haven’t watched yet. Know it’s a banger!!

IMO the driver talent is absolutely incredible but the way they manage makes it extremely controversial

Franz Tost claimed that when Alpha Tauri was created he said they are now sisters not just a junior team. I have a feeling they might over the years become free from red bull by rebranding again and become a serious team and stop being the academy team

My main issue with the program is Marko. He doesn't seem to care and things Mark and Daniel have said before about them being ignored for the 'golden boy' Seb/Max doesn't inspire confidence. Then when he wanted the whole grid to contract Covid. Horner in a similar way too. He says one thing then does another. Did anyone actually believe they were doing the best to help Albon or Gasley?

Personally I think it's a bit of both really. Don't get me wrong I think their recruitment/scouting team is insanely good and does tend to discover talents and kickstart careers at a rapid rate. And the fact that they are involved in so many different motorsport categories and leagues means that their drivers have many different pathways they can follow career wise. But on the other hand, I feel like it's way too critical and way too harsh on its drivers at the highest level (2nd Red Bull seat). It's also why I believe one of the main reasons that RB hasn't given Merc a real run for their money is because lately they tend to switch their drivers too much.

The thing is: almost all people think that the Red Bull Academy IS good, but the way that they treat the drivers (afterwards) is shocking

I think redbull saw the talent of verstappen and how well he did going from F3 straight to F1. They expected that the other talent could do that, which lead to disasters like kvyat, albon, gasly, hartley etc

You notice though with Franz Tost having the move nurturing side of the academy and they have much better results considering their budget. Will be important 2022 onwards

The only driver that has been unfairly treated was Gasly in my opinion, everyone else was given at least a full season to prove their worth in the Red Bull car and I think a season's worth of time is more than enough for any driver to start making strides. I mean I don't think Red Bull should expect their driver's to knock it out of the park from the get-go and clearly they didn't as they did give everyone except Gasly at least a season in the Red Bull car. I think they were a bit impatient with Gasly but then again, Gasly was without any confidence in that car and I think keeping him in that car would have only made things even worse. What they did was right at the time but I think should give Gasly at least another chance at the Red Bull car to see if he has learned from his mistakes and has overcome his deficiencies from the last time because I think he deserves a second chance or rather has earned that second chance because of his performances after the terrible Red Bull stint. Now I know other talents like Vergne didn't even get a chance at Red Bull but I think that is a problem of the sport given the lack of cars on the grid and how competitive the fight for a seat in F1 is. That is a problem that the sport as a collective has to fix.

It definitely seems to me that the issues aren't in the *academy* but in the *team.* Driving away talents like Carlos Sainz, Daniel Ricciardo, and Mark Webber seems to indicate a toxicity coming from the pit wall and not the academy. Perhaps people like Horner and Marko deserve more scrutiny.

If I was a racer, I’d definitely choose Red Bull academy for a number of reasons: 1. They cover your expenses (apparently Ferrari’s academy doesn’t) 2. You’re more likely to get a 1 year drive in an F1 team than in other academies 3. You’ll get to drive for RBR and potentially win races if you can prove your worth at TR

I think the reason why the RB academy is bashed so much is that they’ve promoted so many drivers into F1, especially compared to the other F1 driver academies. In another world we’d be bashing RB for not giving their junior drivers a chance, and sticking with the same ‘mediocre’ driver year on year. Just look at the amount of bitching & moaning about Russell not being given Bottas’ seat. ‘Why isn’t Tsunoda/Lawson being promoted into AlphaTauri over so and so who’s been there for the last 2 seasons?’ Scarcity is the real issue. Every year, we get 2-3 Formula 2 drivers who are good enough to be promoted into F1. F1 driver careers can last well into their 30s - meaning the drivers can expect to hold a seat for 10+ years. It just doesn’t work out, mathematically. Inevitably you’re gonna have so much spare talent lying around that you can try and discard drivers as you please. They can afford to use the sink or swim strategy, since they have 4 of the 20 coveted F1 seats, and are one of 2-3 teams that can actually give you a title winning car in the last decade (meaning RB has even more leverage). The word ‘academy’ also has connotations of sports academies, like in football. But there are 5 ‘world class’ football leagues, each with 20ish teams, each with seasonal squads number in the dozens (21+). There is only one ‘top’ racing championship for open wheelers. Indycar doesn’t have the same prestige that F1 does, especially for non-american drivers. And there’s only 20 spots there. I don’t think we can decry Red Bull for anything more than being ruthless. And that’s probably not something that Helmut Marko or Christian Horner sees as a bad thing.

To this day I’m really not sure why they overlooked Sainz for so long. He was only on loan at Renault and probably wouldn’t have had all of the second seat issues if they’d replaced Ricciardo with him rather than Gasly

I clicked faster than red bull's pitstops.

The thing is you can't do a formula red bull with all redbull academy drivers, so some guys will be out like it or not, even more with pay drivers, they take more seats out of the already small amount of seats on f1, so just the fact that half of the grid if you don't count the pay drivers are red bull or ex red bull drivers should say enough.

I clicked earlier than Red Bull changing their drivers

I think the recent "failures" of Red Bull Juniors (Gasly, Albon, Kyvat) have been largely down to media pressure too. Like the fans at home, F1 media are waiting for someone to put a dent in Merc dominance, so they have a big story to tell. All this added media pressure on someone so young and inexperienced is going to overwhelm them. I remember a pre-race interview with Alex last year where the interviewer told him "You're driving for your Red Bull career" and his reply was like "Woah, okay....". So its a combination of too early, too soon, high expectations from Dr Marko and the like, but more so, media pressure to desperately wish to see Red Bull back on top, that has contributed to the recent "failures". Alex was definitely a case of "too much, too soon". Promoting a rookie into a race-winning F1 team hungry for a championship, after a few decent results, not the best idea. That said, it is good that Red Bull give young talent the opportunity to prove themselves and look at Gasly and Sainz, both have smashed it upon "parting ways" with RB.

Bourdais had made his name in USA way before Toro Rosso.

I disagree with the lady at the end ( Keira ). The academy is a massive success. They get into F1. Then it's up to them to decide their fate by driving well. Yes they may sometimes favour one driver more. But that's just the reality. This sport is tough. It's sink or swim. Just drive your best and do a good job and they'll soon favour you two. Obviously a team won't put as much focus on you if their other driver isn't doing as good. It's just the reality, do well and you won't have a problem. If you can't, tough luck, but atleast you have a motorsport career now and you are known. Idk how she can hate Redbull's academy but me a fan of Gasly. Cause the reality is, if Redbull didn't bring him up. You'd never know of him and thus wouldn't even be a fan. Yes RB's Academy ain't perfect. But it's still been a huge success. And hasn't really ruined anyone's career. They've got jobs in other areas or can now do something else with that experience. Look at Alex, he still is a reserve driver and gets to drive DTM. Even though he kinda failed in F1, he still had a job. And he's earning money in his pocket. So many poor kids who like racing will never get such a luxury and may end up living in poverty. All the redbull drivers, even guys like Alex, Kvyat, Hartley and Gasly. Their careers aren't over. They still making money. They are known. Some kids struggle to buy bread to survive. So in my opinion, they are fortunate and no one can say Redbull's Academy failed them. Maybe they didn't make them the next Vestappen or Vettel. But at least their life is set So to me, Redbull's Academy is still the best! :)

They dropped Perez, Verstappen didn’t go through the RB Academy (he was associated with Mercedes and switched to RB as he was offered a race seat immediately). Sainz was a RB driver and VERY close to VER, so much so, that he left RB to go to Renault

I see meee!!! Thanks for having me on Ps Plz stop dropping drivers helmut xx

I'm all for it - I think its been perfectly reasonable at dropping drivers that aren't good enough. People need to remember this is a massively cutthroat business, and always has been. They fund extensively throughout drivers careers, and have probably bought more drivers (talent?) into the sport than any other academy. They give the drivers everything they need, and they expect everything back. They haven't backed them to become an also-ran and hold them in a seat for sympathy - it's a business, so they have to see return on investment. It's hard when they get rid off someone, yes - but thats not Red Bull's problem, thats the drivers. Not every u18's makes it into the first team in football, and we don't worry so much about that.

It seems like they are the best to get into f1 but one of the worst when you're actually part of it. Their recruitment is insanely good but the expectation seems to put their drivers under too much pressure and they crumble, in both torro rosso and the main red bull team

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One great thing about the academy is that drivers know that if they do well, they will be rewarded and they don't need to worry so much about the money and the uncertainty of the future (if they're confident and doing well of course). I imagine it's hugely helpful for their mindset towards racing in lower formulas/junior team, and allows them to 100% focus on their current racing. The system gives the potential for significant (and quick) growth and separates the true WDC potentials from career mid-fielders, even if it is pretty cut-throat, but it's evidently not for everyone. It's a harsh stick and a massive carrot, and I think that's why you get a select crop of talented drivers *and* a lot of 'failures'

I think they do an amazing job of evaluating talent. They’re just too cutthroat with their drivers and give up on them so easy. Just look at Da Costa, JEV, Buemi and Sainz. 3 Formula E champions and a current Ferrari driver. All of them didn’t even get a chance to drive with the Senior Team. Not to mention a talent like Alguersauri who had 31 points in just 46 starts with Toro Rosso.

They may have ruined their F1 careers but they all have found a place in other racing series. Maybe they weren't that good in F1 and have found their strengths in other kind of motorsport.

The biggest problem with red bull academy is they only want to develop a second driver for max and not give fair chance to the other drivers. they lost so many good drivers Dani Ric Sainz. Gasly soon

I feel like red bull is more of a "talent scout" than a "driver academy" Edit: 😂 o'keefe literally just said that

Unequivocal yes, considering 7/20 drivers in the current grid are former or current redbull drivers and the three outside of the redbull circle are highly talented(Sainz, Vettel, and Ricciardo)and are/were major contributers to the teams they drive for. I think though that they need to give drivers time to develop, Albon and Gasly probably being recent examples.

I think it is a great academy for young drivers but as a driver you have to know they are ruthless and if you get an opportunity you have to be able to deal with the pressure. Having AT certainly helps but as you said jumping up to the main team "too early" can be a massive step up.

I think that red bull are the least biased because of their program, most based on driver skill rather than money and politics so it opens the sport from the extremely wealthy to just the wealthy.

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In case the young drivers that get disposed by Red Bull are "so good", how come that barely any teams have signed contracts with any of these youngsters. I think it is kinda easy to talk down on Red Bull while at the same time not signing any of those talents, that people speak of as wasted and ruined by Red Bull. Red Bull at least tries super hard to recruit younger talents. Not just in F1. You can't say that obout all F1 teams.

Seeing how they pushed for albons seat in 2022, and how BLOODY GOOD albons done in williams so far, i would say its on the up. Especially after max's championship

I think generally the Red Bull programme is great. Having two seats in F1 exclusively for their young drivers provides Red Bull junior drivers a great chance of a shot in F1 if they show they are good enough in junior categories. Then it's about whether or not they are good enough in F1 itself to either move to Red Bull or move to another team before someone with more potential pushes them out of an AlphaTauri seat. And usually there are a lot of other guys in the pipeline, although less so at the start of 2019 and 2020. Maybe they could put more resources into mentally supporting their drivers who are good enough to get into F1, but maybe they already do and the pressure of F1 is just hard for anyone who isn't a Hamilton/Verstappen level driver. I think Gasly was demoted from Red Bull because he wasn't doing great and he was a bad cultural fit with the team. The swap with Albon was done to see if he could do any better and he did in 2019. Then Gasly did very well in late 2019 and 2020 with AlphaTauri, and ultimately is a bigger prospect than Albon (far better junior career and better average F1 performance), hence it made sense to keep a driver doing well for AlphaTauri given there weren't two big prospects to bring in for 2021 (there was only one - Tsunoda). Albon was kept at Red Bull for 2020 and not replaced throughout it because there was nobody in the Red Bull programme who necessarily would have done a better job then. Then Albon was dropped from F1 altogether for 2021 because Verstappen, Perez (they decided they would consider going outside the RB programme), Gasly and Tsunoda are all better/potential to be better F1 drivers than Albon. Albon's junior career was not amazing. He had a shot in F1 but ultimately at the end of 2020 there were those four guys ahead of him whom Red Bull could use. It's about performance and his performances were not better than others vying for an F1 seat. The same goes for the other Red Bull programme guys who came and went. Albon was just there at the right time to get a chance at Red Bull Racing itself that he didn't take.

I think most people focus a lot on f1 success from young drivers. While the best (vettel, max etc.) Can make it and stay, many others still continue their racing career and help promote red bulls brand image in other competitions eg. Albon in dtm

I don't see the problem in the system like it's meant for the best of the best If it was for a normal everyone's game then no it's bad but here where they have just 4 seats to fill I think this is the best you can get

There's nothing wrong about RB DA. The drivers know what they are signing for. There are limited seats in F1 and RB can't do anything about that.

In my opinion (at least from the outside) the Ferrari Academy right now seems to give a more extensive support to its young drivers.

So many of the drivers in F1 right now are here because of Red Bull, and every driver thrown out is another driver given a chance, it may feel bad but it’s really good.

Is it possible to do a video on Pascal Wehrlein??

Its completely opposite to the McLaren academy which focus on only 1 or 2 young drivers

That bad? 8 drivers on the grid are red bull drivers in 2022…

Good. just look at how many drivers started their. Can it be better... yes but at the moment its the best there is in the sport (and I doubt you should only look at the F1... the sport is bigger then F1 aint it) And look at the academy in other sports. Football for example Ajax is a prime example. World Wide praise for the Academy... But how many of every youth team within Ajax, reach the pro's? Very, very few. Its not that simple aye and how much "academy" are these racing academies? Or is it more "better enty into the sports" then a true Academy where you learn the craft? I dont know how that works within RB Edit: should've watched the full video before that last line :P lol

Ferrari and Renault have many juniors that never gets the chance, many of the Red Bull juniors do atleast get a shot at Alpha Tauri (Toro Rosso) and some at Red Bull. F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport, you have to perform no matter what. Kvyat, Gasly and Albon didn't do it. It's up to them, as the same time - the 2nd car seems cursed. But the likes of Lundgaard, Zhou, Shwartzman, etc. might never even get the chance. With that said, I like the RB program. It has given us Vettel, Ricciardo, Verstappen.

how can she say that RB ruined so many carreers. Without RB, they might have never even have gotten a shot at F1. Kvyat is going fine at Alpine (still has a carreer in F1), Pierre Gasly is still an F1 driver and doing really good, And albon still has a carreer in another race class and still has a role in F1 for RedBull. To me, RB has given them loads of exposure and that makes it attractive for other teams (from F1 or other motorsports) to offer them a contract. Hell, if Albon hasn't been called up for F1, he went to F-E and who knows where he would have ended up then, probably not still attached to RB at all. They never ruined any carreer that had 'so much potential'. If you're given the shot as a driver, you better take it because it might be the only shot you get. (except if you're kvyat, RB has given him multiple chances. at 2 different teams) Normally, if you're out of a team, you're out of F1. At RedBull, if you're out of the team, you might still get a shot in AlphaTauri. which wouldn't be the case at other manufacturers. opinions.

Great points from both sides. Very different from Ferrari DA where they have sports psychologists. BUT just take a look even one of Ferrari’s drivers started as a RedBull family driver (Sainz). A bit more support would be good but I don’t hate their system this is F1 and they have launched the careers of SO many drivers and not all can make it to F1 but you named so many that have been given fabulous careers even if it’s in other categories without RedBull it wouldn’t have happened so I can’t hate their product it’s a fabulous opportunity if you can rise to the occasion and if you can’t they manage to land great driver roles in some other forms of Motorsport 🤷🏼‍♀️

People say RB waste talent and that Marko is an impossible taskmaster, but on the other hand most of the RB drivers (that I can think of that didn't make the grade in F1) still ended up driving very successfully in other series and are millionaires. The RB Driver Academy seems pretty successful by any normal standard!

Red Bull doesn't have an academy. It has a young driver program and it acts completely different than other development programs. It provides money to teams so THOSE teams can support and nuture the drivers. It's not Red Bull's job to develop the drivers. It's Alpha Tauri, Hitech, etc. Has anyone claimed those teams don't treat their drivers well?

To be honest, what top team does have the luxury to "nurture" their projects? Development should come in F3 and F2. F1 is serious business and you'll have to deliver.

Speaking of development of drivers, Backing Racing Drives in junior formula careers Giving opportunities in junior careers Allowing to race in RB simulators What more can an academy do? The part developing driver is completely dependent on that driver. The Academy provides the opportunity, the driver have to use it to make himself/herself better and better.

Red Bull isn't trying to create as many F1 drivers as possible, they are trying to find a few guys that might become world champions. If a driver needs to be nurtured, then they probably aren't gonna be a champion in F1. Marko understands this.

Not everyone makes it. That is the simple fact of life. You are in one of the most competitive sports in the world, there isn’t time to just accept poor results with hopes it will get better later. These names everyone has a bleeding heart for wouldn’t even have made it to F1 without RB, they at least got a chance. If RB didn’t exist half the grid wouldn’t be present. Is any driver program perfect? Which other junior program has produced as many top quality drivers as the RB program?

Red Bull doesn't ruin careers, António Félix da Costa: They got him a sit in DTM with BMW, what later lead him into Formula E Pierre Gasly: They got him a sit in Alpha Tauri Alex Albon: They got him a sit in DTM And these are just a few examples, they give a lot of opportunitys to their drivers after they failed in F1, if it wasn't for them we would probably never had Sebastian Vettel in a great sit so fast, the same for Verstappen, they give a lot of opportunitys, the drivers are just to slow sometimes for some reasons, if they want results fast and they got it with some drivers they are in their right, in my opinion red bull is the best academy, they spend a lot of money with young talents and they are the ones that give them more opportunitys, in and out of F1

Your opinion is less valid with that hat unfortunately

It’s not even a question. They’re the only team with an entire backup f1 team where the focus is getting yourself better in the formula. There’s nothing better than that at the moment. It won’t always work out for them but there’s 20 seats in the whole world and 6 of them came up all the way through Red Bull? Half of them no longer even attached to redbull but doing fine nonetheless. Their focus on youth is going to make for more bad stories on sheer volume, but the fact is That their record is astounding. If you deserve it, You’re almost guaranteed a successful Motorsport career and you have a real shot at 20% the seats in the pinnacle of racing. Nothing is perfect and I can’t defend the glasly situation, but if you’re names not Schumacher(nothing against his talent he just obviously would go Ferrari) or you have a billionaire father, the redbull academy is the best path to be an f1 racer

You gotta realize that Red Bull really gives youngsters chances. If u are a young driver who wants to drive a F1car, u want ur other competitors to crumble under pressure so that the chances fall to u. For Renault, Mercedes, Mclaren, Ferrari, u rarely get chances to drive in F1car. But for Redbull, if a guy in front of u crumbles, than u know u will most likely get a chance to drive in Alphatauri and one day Redbull. It is up to you if you can grab that oppertunity and show that u are an amazing driver. There are so many young drivers in the world, and teams in F1 doesn't have time to wait for u when there is potentially another Leclerc or Verstappen behind the line who will perform immediately in the car.

Maybe you should ask Alex Albon his opinion on the Red Bull Driver Academy....

They were not wrong either, they find the best driver for the best car on the planet. So its seems impossible and crazy to achieve, but thats what their target are, being exceptional. They had proof of Vettel and Verstappen who done the impossible in short amount of time, and RB want another one of them. If anything, RB doing a good work, why would you waste more money and effort to develop from zero when you can found hundred prodigies around the world

It seems like they're wasting drivers, but if you consider that a good portion of those drivers might've never been given a chance by the likes of Mercedes and Ferrari, you should commend Red Bull for giving rookies a shot, to see if they can make it on raw talent... this way, everyone can get a chance of making it

Tommo, wasn't Carlos a Red Bull Academy graduate? Won't you rate him as high as Gasly?

I think RedBUll should bring on drivers to F1, not only for their team but also for others. Like Sainz's case.

Wasted talent, wasted time if they were wasted talent like albon for example why didn't any other team like McLaren or Renault at the time give him a ofger

i really think that we don't take enough time to appreciate the fact that as of right now, there are 7 drivers on the grid who have been connected to red bull in some way, and 6 of those seven are red bull academy graduate(sainz, gasly, tsunoda, vettel, verstappen, ricciardo). this means that of the current f1 grid >25% of the drivers on it can directly attribute their career path to red bull, regardless of whether they're still with them or not. and this doesnt include drivers like illot, albon and kvyat who are all former members of the red bull junior team that have taken up reserve/testing roles either with at/rb or elsewhere in f1

Okay, let's compare them to the other teams. Ferrari academy... Leclerc... uh... what else? Mercedes? They haven't promoted anyone, Stoffel is gone, Ocon is... not setting the world on fire. Renault... young rookie Alonso? So, they are probably the best, but they can be better. It's not that the academy is bad, Red Bull is, with treating their drivers.

I’m still amazed to this day that red bull promoted kyvat to red bull in 2015 and not jev despite jev having a better season than him . Not against kyvat I just thought it was too soon for him at the time .

I feel like the RedBull driver academy has done its job of finding young talent that are future stars. However, the job of both the RedBull Motorsport programmes and the junior academy to nurture and help the drivers grow has not been met. This leads to bringing so many talents to F1 and motorsports in general, but often cutting and ruining the careers of many. Edit: I wrote this before finishing the video, and I should note that what I described here that they have failed at is something that other junior academies appear to be doing, being a development program as well as talent finder. The RedBull junior programme is then not succeeding in its task very often, since it is bringing drivers to the top tier of Motorsport that aren’t at the level that the RedBull F1 team expects. There seems to be a disconnect between the two.

@14:06 Great point, look at the vast improvement from Carlos Sainz. Even Lance Stroll is a decent F1 driver these days after being "afforded" enough time to adapt to F1

When you actually manage to be in the RBA that's already a sign you're a competent driver.

I feel like they got a good academy but the way they handle it is shit

You can tell tommo has done graphic design through how good his thumbnails are

All i can say is, Not everyone is Pierre gasly. Also, glad that they kept Yuki for next season.

It seems to me people are way too quick to throw around the word "ruined". By no reasonable standard can you judge the careers of guys like Gasly, Buemi, Da Costa, Vergne or Albon as ruined. I seriously doubt any of them views their own career that way, either.

let's put something into perspective over the last several years in Formula 1, say since 2014 since that was when Daniel Ricciardo was the next graduate after Sebastian Vettel from the RBDA to the top team (after Mark Webber's retirement from the sport AND the change in regulations into the hybrid turbo era): how many race winners have we had from 2014 to 2021 ? - Lewis Hamilton, Nico Rosberg, Valteri Bottas, Kimi Raikkonen, Charles Leclerc, Sergio Perez (not affiliated with RBDA) - Sebastian Vettel, Daniel Ricciardo, Max Verstappen, Pierre Gasly (race winners that came from RBDA) ... four out of ten ain't bad from a single academy, just saying

It can only be a good thing and it's better than allowing a payed driver to sit at the back of the grid year after year. If footballers don't perform they get cut. If you can't cut it then you're not good enough it's that simple. 🙃