Is Sram’s new GX the workhorse of the future?

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Well, here it is.... GX Transmission is now here and we're going to cover exactly what you want to know about the latest (and least expensive) addition to the new Sram Transmission line-up.
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@CaliradoKid Год назад

Do I need it? My wallet says no. My brain says YES! 😂

@SemiSendy Год назад

Tie breaker: What does your heart say?

@brian6speed Год назад

so your wallet is smarter than your brain

@nick_john Год назад

@@SemiSendydeal breaker: my frame says “you can’t have it”

@ki77u_freerides68 11 месяцев назад

Same here 😂 and finally got myself the XO when the prices sunk 😂😂

@or-ian6973 9 месяцев назад

My wallet says yes but my brain says, but wallet that’s a bad idea. So but deep down my brain says send it 😂

@XCBen 2 месяца назад

I'm pulling the trigger on this. Great video!

@GokkunGuru 11 месяцев назад

X0 crank with the 2 tone alloy and cut out channels look so nice. Wish these GX cranks were better designed.

@jerryspeedbumps512 11 месяцев назад

I was just checking that out at the lbs! I hope to get one of these on my bike one day. I do have the UDH so its possible anyways. I just can't wait to be able to shift well under load!

@trailpimp6369 Год назад

I like this GX set up. I want to put this on my enduro bike. I think just like solid carbon wheels this will pay itself off. Good job brother.

@SemiSendy Год назад

Thanks, my man!

@trailpimp6369 Год назад

@@SemiSendy 🙌

@kaneda4102 11 месяцев назад

Most unreliable platform just got more expensive, my local shop already had a few of these back, and the original gx derailleurs were some of their highest returns

@ocbpat5711 10 месяцев назад

Just put the new X0 Transmission on my Slash. Gotta say, its the best drivetrain i have ridden. Shifts super smooth and build quality is out of this World.

@TroyKasper 6 месяцев назад

I love my first gen GX AXS, but I just bought this today for my new bike since the LBS offered 20% off anything for a month, so it's only a little more than the GX AXS upgrade kit. Added the AXS dropper too which I can use on my other bike.

@FoCoFlowShow Год назад

But what are you pointing at there at the end … is the next video behind the door?!? Lol - great detail on this video - thanks for sharing 🤘

@SemiSendy Год назад

Dude, thank you! I completely didn't realize the end screen element didn't take. Ugh!

@ShoneDaddy 7 месяцев назад

Can you give more details on the discrete clamp

@tomridesbikesPNW Год назад

SRAM lost me at 1100 dollars. Sticking to my cable actuated GX Eagle until the price comes down. 1100 is cheaper than the outrageously priced xx1 and x0 options, but the price is still too high.

@SemiSendy Год назад

It's by no means inexpensive, but we've come a LONG way from the original AXS at the same price for just a derailleur and shifter.

@allencolby Год назад

@@SemiSendy I think people also need to realize that it comes with a crankset and a cassette. A GX cassette is $250, crankset is $150, and chain is $50. Subtract that from the $1,000 and it's the same price as the GX AXS. Is it expensive, yup! But if you wait until your cassette and chainring are worn down, it suddenly becomes the same price as the AXS upgrade.

@stevecabrera6718 Год назад

Its actually not that bad. Look how.much an entire gx group costs. Cranks included

@joseulloa8769 11 месяцев назад

@@allencolbyr shimano cassette 100 derailleur 80 chain 30 and crankset 100 shifter 60 that’s around 370-400 dollars for a full drivetrain

@allencolby 11 месяцев назад

@@joseulloa8769 you're not comparing similar Shimano specs to SRAM. Yes, if I went with NX or SX vs GX, I'd have the same price you are talking about here. You need to price out Shimano XT.

@ronin550 8 месяцев назад

Just got one today in fact. But it rained lol

@GravityEscapades 9 месяцев назад

What happends if you need to take the rear wheel off (to fix a flat or something)? Does the deraileur fall off then and you need a torque wrench to put the wheel back on and have it shift well?

@SemiSendy 9 месяцев назад

Behaves just like a normal drivetrain setup. The derailleur is still torqued at its normal 35nm to the frame interface. The axel threads into the derailleur itself.

@KaizersPOV 11 месяцев назад

with that price ill stick for cable actuated for the mean time.

@putimir 11 месяцев назад

Hey, do you have any info on whether you can change just the derailleur (for the old gx axs) and use existing chain and sprockets? Are the rollers on the new one any different then on the old one? Thanks

@SemiSendy 11 месяцев назад

They are not cross compatible.

@spokestylemtb Год назад

Why Can't they just make a cable actuated versio!😩. I would buy that.

@SemiSendy Год назад

There's a few reason why they don't, and why you would not want that. Two key ones being that without the motor drive, the derailleur cannot react to impacts in the manner which greatly helps to safeguard damage of the derailliuer and subsequently the frame. Another being that the shift timing/cassette mapping cannot be achieved through manual cable actuation.

@thegriff9425 Год назад

What is the chain slap like on this model? Is the clutch stronger than the previous generation AXS GX? Is the GX quiet or just the xo?

@SemiSendy Год назад

Sram lists them as the same, and they feel the same. The cages are interchangeable at the clutch as well. You can put a XO,XX,etc on a GX body

@petertse4711 11 месяцев назад

Brought the cheapest SCOTT Genius alloy bike, for the reason to save money for one of these Sarm X0 set!

@user-be4ve4qp4f 10 месяцев назад

when you say the bike is quiet, is the chainslap gone? my GX AXS is super bad with chainslap. thats my main thing i was waiting for hearing before i bought. thanks,

@Chunky246 9 месяцев назад

That's the thing that put me off pulling the trigger on the GX AXS upgrade kit, a lot of people complained about the noise. Maybe the T-Type DR stops the DR sloping about?

@B1KER Год назад

Is the crank carbon or alloy?

@SemiSendy Год назад

It's alloy.

@didzy9349 2 месяца назад

How you getting on with this? I know you hated chain slap so has it got worse or similar to the old axs?

@SemiSendy 25 дней назад

Almost a year on it, and it’s still on the bike. It’s not without its faults but still a great improvement over AXS. I will say there is a performance difference between the GX and XX version I’m running on the ripmo, and the GX is not nearly as quiet. It’s far better than the AXS was, but still seems to have a different clutch tension than the XX. I think the biggest downside to the transmission system is its performance in poor conditions. It deteriorates far more quickly in muddy/wet/gritty conditions than most cable actuated systems. I get the sense that perhaps there’s a tighter tolerance between the chain and cassette that amplifies wet grit that gets in there. Outside of that, it’s a big improvement over AXS

@didzy9349 25 дней назад

@@SemiSendy hey thanks for the long term review / I did end up getting but I’ve sold it now - it got louder and I just thought the shifting was awkwardly slow - I have gone back to full xt 12 speed setup and I cannot believe how smooth it is in comparison / it’s also a lot quieter too than the gx mech by a long long mile almost silent now bar the odd big big huck - I was disappointed with transmission it sounded good and generally was simple to setup but it did become noisy and crunchy too in the wet like you say - honestly go bang a xt kit on from new and be amazed - it’s nuts going back to shimano after transmission you’d think it was a huge step back but in reality it feels like a better premium product over the transmission / and I’ve not touched it since the day I fitted it either (cable tension or anything else)

@cliffordrichardc 2 месяца назад

waiting new update

@tinshield Год назад

Crank is hideous. Not sure I’m even close to being sold on these groups when I can get XT for much less with excellent shift quality with less weight.

@didzy9349 Год назад

so to confirm - the noise is as quiet as your x0 transmission?? i noticed my old gx axs was louder than my x01 axs - so im hopeful this time its basically the same as x0 transmission but heavier! please tell me the noise is as silent as your video before over the rocks etc

@SemiSendy Год назад

It's seems to be, but that Evil isn't exactly quiet at the moment. I've got some rattling that *seems* to be isolated to a problematic one up EDC tool that's currently stuck. It's the same mount of course, and as far as I know its the same clutch as the XX on the Ripmo. They should be on par, but I need to get this other issue sorted before I can really say for sure.

@didzy9349 Год назад

@@SemiSendy keep us posted bud as i suffered the same hatred for the OG axs - now the gx transmission is here i want it if its as quiet as your previous videos when x0 came out - hopefully it keeps that chain slap to near silent

@SemiSendy Год назад

@@didzy9349 will do. Got the EDC issue sorted out last night. Headed off to produce the race replay show for gravity nationals for the next week, but hopefully will get a chance to ride it while I'm away.

@SemiSendy 11 месяцев назад

Got the edc rattle sorted, and the GX transmission does seem on par with the quietness of the XX.

@didzy9349 11 месяцев назад

@@SemiSendy thanks for letting me know bud, sounds good that’s it silent like the high end version now you’ve sorted your other rattle

@waldowsxxghostxx8577 6 месяцев назад

Just need to buy an extra battery and charger dock then this drive train should be a endgame solution

@chillonmedia1 11 месяцев назад

Will an oval chainring effect the performance ?

@SolarizeYourLife 8 месяцев назад

What fucking gets me there is several versions of this...one is the t-type and then one that uses a hanger...

@brentmagerowski7948 11 месяцев назад

How many sales does it take to make back research and development $1100 is too much for this guy

@netposerx Год назад

Why is nobody talking about the UDH? Most bikes out there now are not compatible anyway.

@SemiSendy Год назад

Can't speak for anyone else, but I covered UDH extensively in the initial release video I mentioned twice and link to in this video. Heck, I even took an entire rear swingarm off a bike to help visual breakdown those details.

@netposerx Год назад

@@SemiSendy I meant overall (other channels, blogs, etc). It's almost glossed over by most.

@ianwatts8446 Год назад

Because they want you to rush and buy it...then discover your frames not compatible...so you have to go and buy a new frame...Industry working hand in hand.

@netposerx Год назад

@@ianwatts8446 Add new GX groupset to cart, site suggests a new compatible frame for $3,400 more. haha

@nick_john Год назад

I’d invent an adapter to make it work on any frame, but SRAM would sue me

@SemiSendy Год назад

If a backwards compatible adapter were a possibility Sram would make it themselves. It doesn't benefit them to only be compatible with UDH equipped bikes.

@newoldsteel 11 месяцев назад

The cycling industry is pricing out people such as myself unfortunately…

@alexisonbike3652 Год назад

Unless that tech become less expensive than cable actuated, I will never consider it. Derailleur cable maintenance is super easy and work just as good. Honestly I think sram is really trying to push useless tech down our throats with hype and fanfare

@SemiSendy Год назад

Your first point definitely has a lot of merit for those of us that are well adept at maintaining a cable actuated drivetrain. However, there's a lot of people who aren't so inclined, and a good portion of them who welcome tech like this. Like anything in life, there's all types of people with all types of perspectives, skill sets and reasons for finding value in the things they spend their money on. What's low value for you, can be high value for someone else. I'm passionate about simplicity myself, but coming from a world of engineering I have a deep appreciation for these sorts of things as well. Different strokes.

@Gojira_Wins Месяц назад

Sounds like you didn't pay attention to the video or why this exists.

@MarkusFinholt Год назад

1100 dollars for something that wears out every two years.... Yeah no

@SemiSendy Год назад

Are you currently replacing your entire drivetrain every two years?

@MarkusFinholt Год назад

@@SemiSendy i should, but I usually use it for much longer while having a shitty drivetrain.

@SemiSendy Год назад

@@MarkusFinholt staying on top of chain replacement and general maintenance will go a long way. Of course two years is entirely dependent on the mileage you’re doing, so it’s a relative timeframe. I put in a ton of miles every year with lots of abusive days in rough conditions, and I don’t blow through full drivetrains like that. Keeping up with the chain replacement and swapping the cassette and chainring when the time comes is closer to $300 over a two year period. The idea here too is that the derailleur design is meant to make it far exceed the lifespan for a traditional design. Of course time will tell, but the thought and engineering behind T-Type is pretty massive. It’s by no means cheap even at the GX level, but it’s definitely on a totally different playing field. I’m not at all trying to convince you or anyone else to buy it, just pointing out that there’s quite a bit more to it than what you’re stating.

@chasemanley848 9 месяцев назад

workhorse of the future? no. cables and muscles are workhorses. electronics are disposable - perfect for constantly selling batteries, controllers and motorized derailleurs to consumers, especially because SRAM denies warranty claims left and right. Source? mechanic and service writer in the industry for over 10 years. Seriously folks, AXS rate of failure has been absurdly high even just in my own anecdotal experience... and transmission has so far been a poorer-performing drivetrain than AXS. would you listen to ford mechanics when they say avoid their cars because their transmissions suck? because you should... the people who literally work on these things for a living should be the ones you listen to when you're looking to find out if something can act as a "workhorse" on your bike. Interestingly, SRAM does make some good things. My favorite drivetrains ever are SRAM Red/Rival/Apex 10-speed, SRAM GX 10-speed and 12-speed GX Eagle, alongside Shimano Deore XT. Why? Because they all have unbelievably good (and FAST!) shifting, insane reliability, great build quality/materials and VALUE. The drivetrains mentioned above also don't suffer from all the additional failure mechanisms that electronic groupsets suffer from. Firmware issues. Connectivity issues - both physical (battery to derailleur) and wireless. Bad batteries - both dead on arrival and die on the trail (and I don't mean lose charge - I mean fail). "Bricked" derailleurs that literally just will NOT find/accept/react to wireless input from new controllers - seen it happen three times over the last 2 years in one shop - alongside derailleurs that stop being able to understand where they are in space and consequently start missing shifts, and also derailleurs that literally wait 1 or 2 seconds before initiating a shift. Speaking of delayed shifts... Transmission literally takes over 6 seconds to get from one end of the cassette to the other shifting as fast as you possibly can... Meanwhile, my finger pulls a cable and my gear ratio is adjusted simultaneously. AND - it's cheap. I've literally never broken a cable on a ride, but if I were worried I might - cables are a couple bucks and lighter than a battery, I can carry a spare if I were paranoid or bikepacking. To suggest that ANY electronic drivetrain can be a "workhorse of the future" is just absurd in my mind. This stuff is filling our landfills with electronic waste for no reason. Anyways, sorry for ranting. I know you're just trying to put out content here, but I legitimately cannot understand why anybody puts this garbage on their bike unless they just absolutely cannot wrap their head around adjusting a cable derailleur a couple times a year at worst, they have way too much money burning a hole in their pocket, absolutely cannot STAND looking at a cable in front of their handlebars, or a combination of some or all of the above.

@MtbPoland 6 месяцев назад

Crap

@benphillips1149 11 месяцев назад

How good is the clutch? Sram has always been worse than shimano with clutches i wonder if thats the same w this

@SemiSendy 11 месяцев назад

It’s really solid. Definitely an entirely different experience with both shifting and how quiet it is even charging in rough terrain.

@benphillips1149 11 месяцев назад

@@SemiSendy thats great. Looking at the new np giga elite, looks solid

@SemiSendy 11 месяцев назад

@@benphillips1149 I haven’t ridden the giga yet, but I did review the mega earlier this year and absolutely loved it. Nukeproof’s are such solid bikes. Let me know how you like the giga if you pick it up!

@benphillips1149 11 месяцев назад

@@SemiSendy for sure. Giga in a month ill give u an update when it arrives

@SourPatchPuss Год назад

I love you channel but I gotta ask… If bike noise stresses you out, why you running i9 hubs? Arent those some of the loudest on the market? I put 1/1’s on my gfs bike and we love em but theyre loud as hell.

@SemiSendy Год назад

Definitely a fair question! When I comment on a bike being noisey, I'm referring creaks and rattles. Things that could be from cables rattling, creaky bottom brackets, loose headsets or rotor bolts, etc. Drivetrain noise can come from chain slap, shifting or worn out components like the chain, cassette, pulleys or chainring. The mechanical noise coming from a smooth running hub doesn't bother me in the same way, because it's not a possible indicator of a potential problem. That said, poorly designed hubs that ping and clank under heavy engagement (hard pedaling) are very distracting and annoying to me. Industry Nine hubs have been on my bikes since the mid 2000's and have been rock solid. I do prefer the buzz of the pawls to be quieter than off the shelf, so I use Dumonde tech grease which greatly reduces it and is spec'd by Industry Nine as a suitable option. After a fresh service with Dumonde Tech grease, you can't even hear the engagement on the trail.