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Is The Baby Raptor is Better Than F150? // 2024 Ford Ranger Review 

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The all new 2024 Ford Ranger is now available with the Raptor model for the first time ever in the US.. so I put it up in the air and see just how this thing is made and then put it to the test off-road!
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@SpaceEngineerErich
@SpaceEngineerErich Месяц назад
I'm a mechanic at a shop that maintains Ford's media fleet. It's so cool that when you get a Ford press vehicle it is usually from our shop. If I can ever figure out if a vehicle is going to you beforehand, I will definitely hide some penguins in it somewhere. 😅
@halvorson566
@halvorson566 Месяц назад
Just start leaving them in all the ones you send out rofl penguins in fords will become the ducks in jeeps rofl
@Tetsujin-28
@Tetsujin-28 Месяц назад
The best thing about this review: Sarah tested the Ranger exactly how Ford intended the vehicle should be used. Love the content.
@MLHunt
@MLHunt Месяц назад
The most information-dense reviewer I watch, while still being immensely entertaining. Great channel.
@mr.2cents.846
@mr.2cents.846 Месяц назад
Sarah is great.
@williamburleson4353
@williamburleson4353 Месяц назад
Indeed!
@johnt.848
@johnt.848 Месяц назад
Did you just call her dense? 😂
@tonygiraldes7848
@tonygiraldes7848 Месяц назад
Just the greatest content creator and mechanic on RU-vid 🙂 you learn something in every video from her ♥️ much respect ✊
@smithp573
@smithp573 Месяц назад
This is the version we get in the UK. To us, these are mahoosive.
@petercrawford3370
@petercrawford3370 Месяц назад
@@smithp573, and ditto for NZ.
@BillyJoeJimBob28
@BillyJoeJimBob28 Месяц назад
​@@smithp573Mahoosive..? You mean like Really Big? We ain't talkin about cows sidewinder! 😂😂
@bigkeg9173
@bigkeg9173 Месяц назад
The Ranger was the biggest selling vehicle in Australia last year and you see Raptors everywhere here 😊
@loki6626
@loki6626 Месяц назад
That's one beautifully engineered chasis.
@spandel100
@spandel100 Месяц назад
😳😁
@qubiedoo1
@qubiedoo1 Месяц назад
And the truck ain't bad either!
@davidboda1640
@davidboda1640 Месяц назад
the truck is ok 2
@Weirlive
@Weirlive Месяц назад
shhhhhhhteal.
@elonsus9747
@elonsus9747 Месяц назад
Be careful what you wish for. If you know, you know. 😅
@Akujelppi
@Akujelppi Месяц назад
I really love this car. I've driven my new Raptor for 10,000 kilometers and I'm all smiles😊. I recommend this car to everyone 👍🏻😀
@riaanlouw1874
@riaanlouw1874 Месяц назад
Sarah. I know you compared the size of this with the F150 of 15 yrs ago (sic), but I would have liked to see this parked next to your grandma's Ranger, for size comparison. Overall, brilliant review as always.
@stewartbrenner9193
@stewartbrenner9193 Месяц назад
You are the best car reviewer!
@Primus54
@Primus54 Месяц назад
I really like just about everything with this truck, particularly how it looks beefy without actually being big. Looks like you were having a blast in the desert. I’ll bet it was hard to stop playing after you made the recordings! Thank you, Sarah. 👍👍👍
@vonJaerschky
@vonJaerschky Месяц назад
Just watched Demuro's review of the same truck. Sarah, your review is so much better! You deliver a lot more information on what enthusiasts want to know, and show the truck actually being used. You rock!
@studiotom
@studiotom Месяц назад
Small correction: the combined effective “diameter” of the dual exhaust would only be 3.63”, because area=pi*r^2. Because science! 😊
@robcreel4257
@robcreel4257 Месяц назад
I agree 100%. I'd like to see Ford offer it in more configurations, like extended or single cab and a stick.
@diggermolly5927
@diggermolly5927 Месяц назад
TFL could learn from this channel on how to do a proper review. Very in depth, nice job!
@Deography
@Deography Месяц назад
Car content with fashion, not to mention all those satisfying finger nail clicks on every material!
@garyworokevich2524
@garyworokevich2524 Месяц назад
Loved the sound that V6 makes........and I totally agree......steel wheels and a manual transmission on the base model.......great review Sarah.
@65bugnut
@65bugnut Месяц назад
I agree with your statement about the Ranger having some lower priced model options. After looking for a new Ranger, I ended up finding a 2011 4x4 Ranger, which I think is the perfect size for a Ranger.
@SarahnTuned
@SarahnTuned Месяц назад
Yeah, older generations of Ranger seem to be going up in value now. 83-88 square sealed beam headlight will always be my favorite gen.
@aussie-c10-68
@aussie-c10-68 Месяц назад
I’ve had a Raptor for a year here in Australia, and love it, the perfect daily.. The Ranger is the number 1 selling vehicle down here, the Raptor is the best version comfortable, fast, handy for towing and putting loads in the back, fits 5 people easy as well
@plus790
@plus790 Месяц назад
The Ranger Raptor is a bargain compared to others in the segment (I'm looking at you, TRD Pro and Gladiator), but I still don't do new car depreciation. And I definitely don't do dealer markups. In about 3 years I'll sell my 2010 Raptor and look for a nice used one of these at a discount.
@zerorye429cj
@zerorye429cj Месяц назад
Been waiting so long for this review! Raptors are amazing!
@DanMasters
@DanMasters Месяц назад
I think it’s a total win that they actually put a v6 in this instead of a maxed out 4 cylinder (Toyota?). I think this is the best Raptor too!
@YerBoyTroy
@YerBoyTroy Месяц назад
Curious, why do folks think the 4 cylinder is maxed out?
@denimlabels7315
@denimlabels7315 Месяц назад
@@YerBoyTroy A 4 banger is not ideal for towing.
@oni-one574
@oni-one574 Месяц назад
Neither is a ranger raptor...
@YerBoyTroy
@YerBoyTroy Месяц назад
​@@denimlabels7315 Seems like it was tested against the outgoing V6 and does a much better job
@DanMasters
@DanMasters Месяц назад
@@YerBoyTroy I have a 2011 2.7 4cyl Tacoma and a 2013 5.7 Sequoia. Going down the freeway at 75 mph the Tacoma is ~26-2700 rpm and the Sequoia is at 16-1700. If I want to pass the Tacoma has to down shift and gets up to 3000+ rpm’s while the Sequoia may not even down shift and won’t get past 2000 rpm’s. The 4cyl has to work much hard to get a lighter truck down the road at the same speed/load. Literally the gas mileage is only 1-2 mpg different. I originally bought the 4cyl for gas mileage reasons but after 5 years realized I really didn’t gain anything over the 6cyl Tacoma. I really have less power and am wearing my engine quicker than if I had a larger engine. My 2013 Sequoia has 296k miles and still drives like new because the engine hasn’t had to work very hard during those miles.
@bsmirnov
@bsmirnov Месяц назад
Its price was the first thing I noticed. It's not cheap, but it's a great value for the package. 👍
@terrya6486
@terrya6486 Месяц назад
You're having way too much fun in that truck !
@stephenmoxley3004
@stephenmoxley3004 Месяц назад
Sarah, I love this review. The bolstering test is always hilarious and leave it to you to squeal tires in the dirt. Keep up the great work.
@niklaswejedal463
@niklaswejedal463 Месяц назад
Oh yes! A new and improved Rally Special Stage! ❤❤❤❤❤ I am so addicted to your off-road reviews and this was just as great as expected. Thank you for what you do and Stay Awesome!
@AverageAnimal
@AverageAnimal Месяц назад
Thanks!
@keithreams8921
@keithreams8921 Месяц назад
Your exhaust comment.... 3.1428 X radius squared or diameter squared X .785 One 3.5" pipe = 9.62 Two 2.5" pipes = 9.8125 So it's equivalent to one 3.5" exhaust pipe, not 5". 😊
@timelesswolf9623
@timelesswolf9623 Месяц назад
I feel this is the limit on how big a car should be as the larger and larger utes are coming over into Australia like the rams and silverados. I do like the ranger though.
@MR3DDev
@MR3DDev Месяц назад
I am here for cars and bad jokes. There is one of these parked outside where I work, that thing looks very impressive and I dont even like trucks.
@nonyanks2510
@nonyanks2510 Месяц назад
Sara, you are in a class all by youself especially on car reviews, as Mr. T would say..."You Got the Jazz" on this one, great review !
@bliers
@bliers Месяц назад
The best off road reviews ever! All the details and all the fun. No skimping on the technical details with relevant commentary. Too bad I have to wait three days for the next video 😉 Thank you Sarah!
@peeweeacres
@peeweeacres Месяц назад
In the test drive did I hear Sarah say bigger is not always better smaller is more nimble?
@beepseatsfindingfoodtreasu8756
@beepseatsfindingfoodtreasu8756 Месяц назад
Just seeing you in those ankle boots and off roading made my day.
@AndyFromBeaverton
@AndyFromBeaverton Месяц назад
1:30 The driveshaft is painted. The rust color takes time to develop.
@craigfin3222
@craigfin3222 Месяц назад
Painted with the Ole Rust Color, I see. Nah, they just need to do a better job, especially considering that this little truck is 56K and supposed to be gear towards off-roading.
@tomheringer2047
@tomheringer2047 Месяц назад
Yes, the rust finish is officially referred to as a "patina" and gets better with age.
@kd6836
@kd6836 Месяц назад
Unprotected metal rusts quickly. That’s original rust-patina brought to you by FoMoCo.
@tboneforreal
@tboneforreal Месяц назад
The weird thing is that the international versions do have the drive shafts painted, but the NA version does not. A bit of cost saving I suspect.
@TheCarGuyOnline
@TheCarGuyOnline Месяц назад
This was one of the best true truck/technical reviews I have seen in a long time, great job, so much better than a lot of other tubers (including me). I prefer schteel over aluminum, happy to see the initial build quality on this Raptor. Now I'm trying to figure out how RU-vid has never recommended your channel to me until recently given the years of car/truck content I consume...
@RascalCatify
@RascalCatify Месяц назад
Its amazing that this thing is 58k optioned out and the new Taco OR 4x4 optioned out is only about 2k less at 56k and the top of the range Taco will be pushing almost 70k! If I was in the market to spend that much on a mid-sized truck this would be my choice for sure.
@scottlp2323
@scottlp2323 Месяц назад
All the specs. All the entertainment. Sarah is the best and most engaging car reviewer on RU-vid. 👍
@carguytroy
@carguytroy Месяц назад
A lot of truck for todays money. Still not cheap, but compared to the Bronco Raptor at 90 ish thousand? Great value.
@mikeh6876
@mikeh6876 Месяц назад
Best car/truck reviews on the WEB. Thanks - appreciated............
@thecivilrightslawyer
@thecivilrightslawyer Месяц назад
Nice review. Thanks.
@deanfisher1753
@deanfisher1753 Месяц назад
I must have watch 30 review videos on this truck, this one wins by a fair margin. Very concise and informative.
@douglasboyle6544
@douglasboyle6544 Месяц назад
🐧Blame the EPA fuel economy standards for the lack of cab configurations. They are based on footprint square inches for trucks so it's easier for manufacturers to sell bigger trucks with "meh" fuel economy than smaller trucks with better mpg. Hence why all the small trucks disappeared from our market and trucks have gotten ridiculously huge over the past three decades.
@terot8341
@terot8341 Месяц назад
That doesn't make any sense.
@mybighandle
@mybighandle Месяц назад
Blame the consumer for buying it.
@douglasboyle6544
@douglasboyle6544 Месяц назад
@@mybighandle they aren't given other options.
@bradbyers7505
@bradbyers7505 Месяц назад
I wish they would use that formula and build genuine 4x4 full size vans.
@slscamg
@slscamg Месяц назад
@@terot8341it’s doesn’t but that’s the law. One of the reasons SUVs were pushed on us.
@ertcom1
@ertcom1 Месяц назад
Hi Sarah. Aussie here. You're welcome!
@ubroberts5541
@ubroberts5541 Месяц назад
Ford Motor Company is an American multinational headquartered in Dearborn, Michigan. The Raptor is manufactured at their Wayne, Michigan plant. An Australia Ford team helped develop it.
@aaronthomas4980
@aaronthomas4980 Месяц назад
@@ubroberts5541 That why America got them before the rest of the world ?
@lukonium
@lukonium 11 дней назад
Fantastic review! So much knowledge and great information about the different parts. Seeing the rally section brought home how good this vehicle is. Thanks!
@victorpapaavp
@victorpapaavp Месяц назад
Absolutely loved seeing you rally the crap out of that thing. It definitely has my attention! Great vid!
@AlanKinsella-nu4gm
@AlanKinsella-nu4gm Месяц назад
Shuperb Sarah! You were a total beast driving that Raptor. Please, again consider fixing the Focus and go racing someday. We know you're crazy enough. I would come from the PNW to cheer you on.
@Nico-vt4il
@Nico-vt4il Месяц назад
In Australia there is a factory backed power upgrade for the TT V6 Raptor! + 60.odd kilowatts & 200nm of Torque💪
@neoanderson7
@neoanderson7 Месяц назад
That’s a very serious truck. The proper size for those who actually use these for what they were intended for. 👍🏻 Love rally stage 2.0. 👏🏻😎
@stanleyguard5593
@stanleyguard5593 Месяц назад
Great truck, great review, and great video.
@skippy.30
@skippy.30 Месяц назад
Why is it about USA not getting all models, it caters to more professional companies for there fleet as well. This vehicle is so popular here in Australia, the Ford Everest is the off road family wagon version. Love your Channel Sarah…Chriso
@richiecolon3774
@richiecolon3774 Месяц назад
Great Video! I've had my Ranger Raptor for just under a month now. I use it as my daily driver, and I also plan on using it for off road fun. I'm getting an average of 19.2 in the city . I use the "R" setting every time I get in the truck. The only dings I would give it are lack of BlueCruise, and I wish the Raptor came with the Orange running lights indicative of the Raptor family.
@Shadowband72
@Shadowband72 Месяц назад
The new ranger is so much bigger than the older one it may as well be a full size truck , in fact I'm pretty sure it's bigger than the late 90s F150 .
@fuzzjunky
@fuzzjunky Месяц назад
yeh i wonder what it's weight rating would be, i mean it looks like it could carry some weight
@mikespangler98
@mikespangler98 Месяц назад
How much did it weigh? My 1990 F-150 was 5500 lb with two people in it and a camper shell on the back.
@marklihsu
@marklihsu Месяц назад
It's the f150 for the rest of the world so yeah.
@Ole_CornPop
@Ole_CornPop Месяц назад
​@mikespangler98 this one was 5,700.
@user-vf9pv8dc7r
@user-vf9pv8dc7r 2 дня назад
true story. My only complaint moving from the tacoma to RR is fitting it in the garage lmao
@bc65925
@bc65925 Месяц назад
Exhaust sizes, areas of circles calculate a lot different, a 2.5" has an area of close to 5" X 2 it's about 9.8". A 5" pipe has an area of about 19.6.
@rockercover
@rockercover Месяц назад
Looks like you were thrilled; driving this rig. *Fun Ranger.*
@ODGColornChrome
@ODGColornChrome Месяц назад
And what a frame you have!
@HillbillyHippie530
@HillbillyHippie530 Месяц назад
You know Sarah is a Transformer right?
@jeffspies8035
@jeffspies8035 Месяц назад
Thank you Sarah. Only a couple weeks ago I was wondering if you might be reviewing the Ranger Raptor, and lo-and-behold you were doing it as I was starting to wonder. Your underbody truck analysis is so helpful. I love your work! You are the best RU-vidr ever!
@carlbarnes4780
@carlbarnes4780 Месяц назад
Just picked up my Ranger Raptor, love it!
@mattb9664
@mattb9664 Месяц назад
I definitely like the mashup of folksy and lightened jokes mixed in with the review! Format also is great and the description of how the vehicle 'feels' during the Beans is probably better than anyone else's! Subscribed!
@qbanlink25
@qbanlink25 Месяц назад
@ 20:02 those last two ratings might be the highest scores I've seen you give any vehicle thus far, maybe I'm wrong, great review.
@halfrsedtradie1926
@halfrsedtradie1926 Месяц назад
It’s an awesome ute Best thing I’ve ever bought
@treborheminway3814
@treborheminway3814 Месяц назад
Hi, knowing how detail oriented you are, I wanted to remind you that a dual 2.5 inch exhaust doesn't come anywhere near a 5 inch. When you square the radius, it dominates the cross sectional area number. I'm sure you know this, but figured it would be like you forgetting to clean under the fender flares. 🏁🏁
@SarahnTuned
@SarahnTuned Месяц назад
Yeah, I’ll leave math to the robots.
@treborheminway3814
@treborheminway3814 Месяц назад
@@SarahnTuned please don't, just use penguin units or something wonderfully wacky. 🐥
@planeflyer21
@planeflyer21 Месяц назад
3rd Gen Ranger...I love how narrow mine is! We only get the crew cab due to the "chicken tax" debacle.
@TinkerersAdventure
@TinkerersAdventure Месяц назад
Great review! Learned a lot of useful stuff I couldn’t find elsewhere. Man if this thing has a front sway bar disconnect, I’m jumping ship from Toyota.
@emvanrotana2331
@emvanrotana2331 Месяц назад
Based on my experience, It’s such a fuel burner but it’s fun to drive around town or accelerating
@trevin1691
@trevin1691 Месяц назад
Such a GENIUS BEAUTY! (Truck was awesome too) “Baby trophy truck”👍🤣 such a well done smaller truck deserves its own sized Raptor bed badge…
@waynewilliams839
@waynewilliams839 Месяц назад
I want 1 !!! Thanks for your work !!!! 😊
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 Месяц назад
Great channel, Great presenter, Great truck. Thanks to Sarah.
@broncomikey6681
@broncomikey6681 Месяц назад
I’ve been watching your videos for a long time. You are one of the best vehicle reviewers on RU-vid. You’re a great mechanic too!
@jiggsh54
@jiggsh54 Месяц назад
It is so much fun watching your reviews. Finally an honest reviewer. Thanks Sarah!
@nivektreblig
@nivektreblig День назад
Have mine in SA for over a year already. Lots of accessories available for them here, e.g. lighting, canopies, nudge bars, etc.. I have 20" wheels with a color coded canopy. All made in Thailand with 292 kws and about 650nm I think. We appear to have better color choices too.
@filovirus1
@filovirus1 Месяц назад
fruit and robot compatibility - I love it
@loveme2judy
@loveme2judy Месяц назад
An excellent review. The combination of dedicated knowledge and the want to play provides a comprehensive and very delightful videp. Keep being a True Leader in this genre genre.
@FrankySilverFace
@FrankySilverFace Месяц назад
Is that Tyre dandruff under braking? If so that's crazy. I have to admit I'm crushing on this Ranger Raptor. Ford take my money. And thx for the review Sarah. I enjoy your show. Here's to putting my money where my mouth is...Or my thumbs ....cus I'm typing not speaking.
@frankeasterling3402
@frankeasterling3402 Месяц назад
I want a standard cab or extended cab. The Four door is just too big.
@johnnyroese
@johnnyroese Месяц назад
Love it. I want one 👍🏻
@kbyon37
@kbyon37 Месяц назад
It's about time they brought this over to the US, it's been out since 2018 overseas.
@tomdrummy4984
@tomdrummy4984 Месяц назад
Yes, I always see what you “did there”. 🙂😎
@Rob_Dog
@Rob_Dog Месяц назад
Woohoo, been waiting for this review. I’ve had mine for a year now 🇦🇺, we get the K02 on ours, interesting to see what the K03 are like. Also there’s a company here that puts the V8 Coyote in the previous gen Ranger Raptor.
@jamescurcurato5779
@jamescurcurato5779 10 дней назад
EXCELLENT Review, one of the best I've seen☺
@WhatAm1doinggg
@WhatAm1doinggg Месяц назад
I blame the cafe standards. Every 0.00001 mpg more costs them money so that's prolly why only one cab and no manual in USA 🤬
@awesomearizona-dino
@awesomearizona-dino Месяц назад
Thank you Sarah, i hope Ford quality picks up.
@jamessalter676
@jamessalter676 Месяц назад
Nice review! I like how excited you got talking about a Ranger Raptor R. 😊
@dapanzipapacompactcarslab3445
@dapanzipapacompactcarslab3445 Месяц назад
best coordinate matched with outfit of car
@MeatPopsicl
@MeatPopsicl Месяц назад
Another great review, Sarah! Thank you! FYI, the "old school" white rectangular USB is called "Type A". Blue rectangular is a "USB 3.0". "Type C" you obviously recognize. There was a squarish "Type B" that was popular 20 years ago on printers and digital cameras, but it fell out of fashion with high society robots.
@TaunusMicha
@TaunusMicha Месяц назад
I'm wondering if the engine would fit into my Euro-Fords from the 70's and 80's. They already have V6's in them, but without anything bolted to them, like turbo's etc, they are tiny. That would be a fantastic upgrade powerwise.
@SpookyFow
@SpookyFow Месяц назад
Last I heard, finding a coyote crate engine is quite the undertaking. Especially for the 5.2 litter. And then with the markups you're looking at $25k minimum. Might as well get a low miles 22-23 Raptor R at that point.
@AntilleanConfederation
@AntilleanConfederation Месяц назад
Raptor R is like any other Ford performance car or truck. Pandora’s box of you buy used.
@milesbartlett
@milesbartlett Месяц назад
We also only get the crew cab in my country although it is more expensive at a conversion of 66000 USD. They manufacture the Ford Ranger here but the Raptor version gets imported from Thailand.
@kevinm5177
@kevinm5177 Месяц назад
Wow that thing is nice.
@cyfirus
@cyfirus Месяц назад
Hey Sarah. What's really insane about this truck is the Canadian market up here has inflated the base price of this trim to be over $80,000 AND with dealer markups, I see price tags of $100,000+ WHICH IS INSANE FOR A MIDSIZED! Enjoy your work! Keep it up!
@johnrivers9393
@johnrivers9393 Месяц назад
I see a lot of ranger raptor bank repos in the near future. Financing a “market adjustment fee” boggles my mind.
@frankcoffey
@frankcoffey Месяц назад
This is the size a Raptor should be and the way it should be reviewed.
@user-ib5ch8rg2z
@user-ib5ch8rg2z Месяц назад
The markups on this truck here in Virginia/North Carolina is insane. Fully loaded MSRP $55,000. After markups $72,000. Crazy!
@johnrivers9393
@johnrivers9393 Месяц назад
If you trade in a vehicle add your own $17k market adjustment to your trade in value to compensate for their stupid adjustment….
@petek6522
@petek6522 Месяц назад
Cool looking truck, let down with that take off test... with that torque, gearing and transmission I expected better
@kristoffermangila
@kristoffermangila Месяц назад
Here in the Philippines, we also have the Ranger Raptor, which is almost identical to the US version, save for the engine being a 2.0 liter biturbo I4 diesel. Its rivals in the Philippine market are the Toyota Hilux GR-S and the Mitsubishi Triton Athlete.
@aryanalfa2444
@aryanalfa2444 Месяц назад
Nice review
@imfloridano5448
@imfloridano5448 Месяц назад
I believe the bucket seats bolstering should be adjustable. I'm a small framed person and the manufacturers make the seat to a universal 1 seat fits all
@DumpsterDivingGrace
@DumpsterDivingGrace Месяц назад
The professionalism of your reviews continues to grow in a way that becomes an inspiration for any young and aspiring content creator. More than that, it is humbling to see how far you've come based on the dedication you've put into making this channel both entertaining and informative. Very few of us put in such hard work to achieve our goals.. You should feel so proud of your efforts. Also, you seem more relaxed and happy lately. Maybe that comes with the confidence in hitting your stride. Keep up the fine work!
@johnbillyard1837
@johnbillyard1837 5 дней назад
Excellent review as wall ways, love the US version or the Raptor, in the UK we are not so lucky with our version of the Raptor…..The best of all test drives.
@Alxx2
@Alxx2 Месяц назад
It looks pretty cool. It’s one of the two vehicles I’m considering for my next daily so I appreciate the review.
@AdamAus85
@AdamAus85 Месяц назад
You wanna know the best selling car in Australia and New Zealand last year? Ranger. My company car is a 2024 2.0 with 10 speed dual cab, before that I had a 21 Hilux with the 2.8 and 6 speed dual cab. Ranger has a more roomfy and comfortable interior, more charging outlets, better fuel economy, better at keeping dust out and active lane keep assist (the Hilux just braked the opposite side and jerked you over). Having an actual rated recovery point on the front is a nice addition too. Toyota will need to do something special with their next Hilux. The Raptor variant of the Ranger has been out in Australia for a few months now, you do see quite a few on the road too.
@rabbivj
@rabbivj Месяц назад
I honestly don’t know if I’d take this over the ZR2…
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