As I say in the video, PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL TO THE DEVELOPERS. They don’t deserve hate just because you don’t like how the game looks. With that being said, you are totally allowed to hate how it looks and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise!
I don’t understand why I’m not allowed to hate the developers… they clearly have massive egos who think they can do better than some of the greatest games ever made. They want to destroy everything great that has been built up over many years. And add crap even though it’s crap just because they made it. If they made it then it’s fine for them.
@@atomxalphabale1043 no, idk where you got that from, they just work on the game, it's mainly Activision that have the massive ego, why do you think every mode has Warzone elements in them, Campaign has Warzone elements now, Multiplayer has it, and zombies do too, the devs don't have massive egos, it's the Activision higher ups who control what goes into the games.
About the Dev situation though, if a chef brings me a meal and it's not great, of course I am not going to think he is a terrible chef. But if the chef has consistently made 3 bad dishes... I ain't paying for shit.
@@Xpertfusion(This is a further justification of why you SHOULD NOT slam individual devs) Well you also have to consider corporate structure in all of this. Not a lot of people seem to know how that works. The ground developers have ZERO creative say in these games at all. Senior leadership does, and a lot of times senior leadership has zero experience actually playing COD. ON TOP OF THAT, even the senior leadership has to answer to Activision, and honestly I fully believe a lot of the wildly unpopular aspects of the game are direct Activision orders and the actual studio could not do anything about it. People should not be blaming specific devs because they literally got zero say on the project.
@@Xpertfusion You just need to understand the frustration. They aren't cheap dishes they are cooking up. Feels like we are just wasting our time and they aren't even listening.
@@XpertfusionI agree that no one should be harassed but If we are going to continue with the Chef analogy then I do think after 3 bad meals in a row, cw, vanguard and Mwz... it's okay to let the Chef know he hasn't been cooking lately (Respectfully of course)
lol. I’m critical and optimistic. There’s a lot issues with what I’ve seen so far, however, still hoping for changes. I’ll be playing anyway for MP, because of gamepass
SoE got hate but it was for completely different reasons. This game is getting hate for the same stuff that every game since Cold War has gotten hate for.
SoE got hate because it was completely different but once people got used to it they loved it, we’ve had this game before (Cold War 2.0) and majority of the zombies community didn’t like it and just because they make some minor changes to the Cold War system it’s still the Cold War system so people aren’t gonna like it
I’m not buying another game until they stop putting weapon rarities, armor plates, salvage, and kill streaks in the game. Why did they think any of those would be a good addition to zombies?
In activisions eyes they think adding these warzone features will get the warzone players to play more, when in reality they will probably play the first week then go back to warzone because that’s what they like,
Like bring back double tap instead of some useless perks like tombstone, or death perception 😭 I ain't trying to upgrade the tier three times to get double tap. Such a weird system I still can't get over. 😂😂
I’m just disappointed because other than gobblegums and potentially more complicated easter eggs, I’m not seeing the BO3 influence on this game. It seems like a Cold War and MWZ inspired mode if anything.
yes literally nothing about this game is anything to do with black ops 3. they're just saying that because they know the new mode can't compete with it.
I would say the gobblegums and weapon kits are the main influence. Most likely, the Easter Eggs will also be like BO3. I honestly hope the boss fights are better this game, more like the Entity from MWZ, which felt like a fun Destiny raid.
As someone who has played zombies since childhood, this is my first time I ever complained about cod zombies. I had have enjoyed every cod at launch, even bo4 on launch I loved zombies at first sight to the point I was confused why people were even hating it but after playing cold war, I for the first time didn't liked it. I still didn't hate it tho or complained. I waited for another black ops and now, look at bo6. I for the first time hated and complained and this should tell something since I am a chill gamer and mostly accept any change but now, zombies is getting so warzonified to the point I can't even differentiate between mp and zombies.... I still have hopes that maybe they will create separate mode for bo6 so I will hold of my complaints again as of now.
i wouldnt agree with quality. The aether maps are not great but i do like the chaos maps but it was defo a drop off from bo3. also its kind of insane that we havent had an original aether map since gorod kroviXD
@@distruttle3045bud, everyone has their own opinion. For me, bo4 had great maps than bo3 🤷🏻♀️ people hated and still hate bo4 for no reason, thus leading to cold war. Now, I personally don't like cw nor bo6 as of now since yes, they did wrong this time by changing the mode into whole multiplayer mode. For the first time ever I complained about cod game and it is a legit reason this time.
@@iinferuslunitaa3169you can't say people hate BO4 for no reason. It's objectively a false statement. Lemme tell you some of the flaws... Half shitty remakes, Pap system, Perk system, point system etc. These are all big reasons to hate and not enjoy a game.
@@ALph4ZeR00 yes and those same people jumped on the hate bandwagon. The number of people who hated didn't even bothered playing and enjoying it. It takes a little while for a game to grow on you and feel more attached to it as time goes by but people didn't. If people gave chance to the new perk system, they would have understood. Also, those same people were asking for a change and were tired of the story and when chaos came in, people hated it so much when they literally asked for it so you can't deny that community screwed it up as well. I personally loved the remakes and even now, as the cycle repeats, youtubers are claiming the remake of five in bo4 was the best when it came to aura and atmosphere. People still hate point system no matter what. As I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Atleast the changes were exclusive to zombies only and didn't had anything to do with warzone and mp. At the end of the day, it was still zombie themed. It has been years from black ops to black ops 3 and it was time for changes. The only big change was perks and that is it. Now, the complain for bo6 is reasonable since they have nothing zombie themed anymore.
Exactly, even the changes they did weren't that big and huge like cw and bo6 except for perks but they still only remain exclusive to zombies and didn't had anything to do with mp and warzone. The maps were of great quality. Changes were zombie themed atleast
I think we can all agree the reason why people are not liking BO6 was cause 3arch's marketing team said that "we are returning to classic zombies". When most people think about classic zombies they think about everything from bo1 to bo3. Thats treyarch's first error was misleading the community, their second error was because of how the map actually looks. I played Cold War zombies and MW3 zombies and did not enjoy the experience just cause it didnt feel like zombies. The point system was different, the armor system replacing the shield systeam, the perk system being altered etc... Even the maps in CW were really disappointing that and the story was lackluster. When I saw Richtofen in the trailer I thought we would be able to play him and thought we were going to be in the house that he was in as the map and it being zombified. The wonderwaffe wasnt even in the gameplay I saw and I thought that would be the WW for the map. Now granted I was overly hyped and should have remained optimistically cautious but when you have marketing like that, it makes it very hard not to get hyped if you get what im saying.
Also more fake promises such as them saying “it’s going to be harder” you had people at cod next who probably were playing their first ever game of zombies getting to round 50, not to also mention I saw some guy get to round 25 with not jug
@@kaiiyyu9232 this is not true the map had everything like Easter eggs turned off and the map they played was a map that is for the casuals terminus is the map where it’s harder and it’s for the hardcore players
@@Wedownn you making excuses for them makes you part of the problem, they had 4 years of development, you can have a casual map without taking away the quality, kino perfect example, basic and casual map but such a fun experience, you can tell playing 10 mins into liberty falls you’ll fall asleep
@@kaiiyyu9232 you 100% right about the quality but we don’t know if there is more to the map it could be we haven’t seen really anything for it but I don’t like how everyone is forget about terminus when it checks out all of the boxes
We have been giving LEGIT criticism to it… It’s a MULTIPLAYER map with zombies in it. But they have done nothing to it to give it a zombies TWIST. Okay, so, Ascension… we know that isn’t its OWN original map design. It came from the BO1 MP map called ‘Launch’ while also taking things from the campaign mission of rescuing Weaver from Kravchenko. Ascension is one of the most iconic zombies maps and a TOP quality one at that, it had it’s own Zombies twist, while Liberty falls… a map made 13-14 years after looks like a straight up MP map or something from Warzone. It’s honestly pitiful…
The hate for liberty falls is justified. Throughout cold war a big criticism was reused assets that felt soulless. Liberty falls looks like a MP map..and it is a MP map. They should have known we wouldn't have loved it. I'll definitely still play it and probably enjoy it tho.
They really should make an og mode. Its a billion dollars company why we can’t have both. Just make chronicles 2 and make new stuf to target the warzone kids
What? The big alarm with the map so far is the LACK OF CHANGE. Bringing forward not only mechanics, but pure principles of taste and lack of critical atmosphere building that was also lacking in CW and all later shit, is exactly what they've done in way too many aspects. It's so safe it's astonishing how little it has accomplished...
You complain about lack of change yet your the same crowd that wants to remove everything and go to bare bones of the old games. Cold War was fun, MWZ was fun. If it wasn’t and the player base wasn’t there they would revert to the game style that you people are RU-vid are crying about. But they won’t because you don’t have the numbers. Not enough “hardcore” zombies players to keeps the lights on.
@@Tac_Tots well to make long story short, mwz was rigged thanks to infinity ward bringing back mercenaries, possibly one of the most enemy soldiers that do not belong to zombies at all.
@@megaelijahfanxrocks it’s a nice variety that you can engage with or avoid. I’m not sure how they don’t belong in zombies. We’re not the only people left in the world. There are other factions in the zombies universe.
@@Tac_Tots if you haven't noticed, numbers is the most irrelevant aspect of quality when it comes to anything today, is why mass production often means sacrificing complexity and quality that indeed not the majority are capable of aprecciating. I haven't played zombies since CW, and not really in any category of the two evidently simplistic polars between old and new, so no I don't think stripping it down to its old contents would do anything. I simply play it when it looks good enough, which I expect Bo6 still can prove with 4 years of development..
I think we should've learned by now, that if we want change, BLATANT INSULTS AND TOXICITY towards the devs is NOT how we're gonna achieve it as a community.
lol I’m not calling anything change if they keep re using the same assets from cod that are now 10 years old. Gobblegums is not a new “change” manglers is not a new “change” the mini abomination is not a new “CHANGE”
Wow, zombies has reached a Star Wars level of discourse. Bo6 proves we will only get cold war from now on, and a sizeable chunk of the base hardcore and casual (no matter how hard they try) will leave. Many people are realizing this and will never return (including me), and there is nothing wrong with that.
They don't want to make "The best zombies mode possible" though. They want to make the most profitable zombies mode possible while doing the least amount of work possible.
@@Xpertfusionthe new devs don’t care tho, these aren’t the same passionate people who made all the classics we know and love, it’s all new hires who could care less
Not a single argument on the Cold War fan side of the argument I've seen from those people are ever genuine. All of their arguments are completely disingenuous or just straight up dumb.
We saw the change from BO4 to Cold War and we didn’t like it. So it’s a false narrative to say that we don’t like change. We just don’t like shitty stuff that we experienced already.
I’m optimistic but also worried. I think terminus looks much better. We’ll see how it is at launch. I’ve been giving some constructive feedback since cod next for both mp and zombies on twitter as well!
Man just make a fucking classic playlist where there is no warzone ass mechanics (armor, weapon variety, salvage, minimap, scorestreaks, enemy healthbars etc.) and everyone would be fucking happy
Omg someone finally talking SENSE! People trying to discount the criticism are not helping at all. “People can’t accept change” is a terrible argument from that side. The same people that loved Nacht loved Shadows, and that was a whole lot of change. The problem is BAD change, and it’s just fine to critique bad change! At this point since the community is so fractured, the only solution would be to implement a very well developed classic mode. There are rumors of a classic mode, coming from data miners and also the Steam page. If they truly are releasing a classic mode and it’s well done, the community has nothing to complain about except badly designed maps (as many people are already mad about liberty falls.) Also people need to stop comparing liberty falls to other “bonus maps.” They specifically marketed LF as a full zombies experience. It’s NOT a bonus map. Though even as a bonus map compared to the others, LF didn’t do so hot on Milo’s ranking list lol.
this video is solid, I'm not going to be buying this game because I hate the direction new zombies has taken in terms of it's story and it's gameplay but I'm glad that people can find enjoyment and do look forward to this mode. I'm not going to be bitter to someone for liking the look of this just because I don't.
Idk man the only civil place I’ve had discussions about it are in person to people I barely know and Snapchat with my personal friends. Everywhere else that shows this is a fuckin warzone one way or the other
@@AlexMadenoh no dude I absolutely hate this game and the people defending it. Never thought I’d be radicalized by call of duty. Like you try to be constructive and some Activision fidget spinning fanboy is going to ignore you and call you names for not liking what they like. It’s bad dude. It’s reached a new level of toxicity that’s going to bleed into other communities of people. This is the most division driven installment I’ve ever seen. This is the most toxic game I’ve ever seen.
@lynchlink01 haha damn man, I can really feel your frustration through the screen, and I can also relate because I've been there plenty of times before. So when I say this, it does not come from a place of superiority complex, but as the saying seems to be today, go out and touch some grass. That's honestly the best advice I could give. Just getting off the internet for a bit and enjoy nature. Keep that spirit of yours in check so you don't end up going full Hadoken on their asses 😂 Nah but srsly, it's more about your own well being. Don't let the clowns get to ya
@@AlexMadenI know and I appreciate that man. It does make me angry but I know it makes alot of other people angry too. But ultimately you’re right. Perhaps it’s just time to put them sticks down
Cold War is the worst thing to happen to zombies it would've been nice if it was a one and done but naw this STD infected zombies for the past 5 years. all of its mechanics are all objectively bad and I can give reasons as to why there objectively bad for each. Point System Loadouts Feild Upgrades Weapon Tiers No Perk Limit I got a reason for every single one of these that make these factually detriments to zombies.
Funny story: so i remember the Sony E3 showcase in 2016 i went to a movie theater with a friend and thats when we saw Infinite Warfare. The gameplay showed a mission where you were in space grappling around a cruiser. And ngl people thought it looked really cool. But then the sentiment was like "Oh its COD so we can't be excited too much." 💀
As a veteran since the og nacht days, I like a majority of the new mechanics in zombies. What I don't like is as follows: • I'm not a fan of the plate system and would prefer if they brought back the classic shield as that's more effective at making the game challenging whilst keeping with the classic zombies theme. • I don't care for the weapon rarity system as that's adding unnecessary mechanics to an already flushed out pap and perk system. • I really am not a fan of maps that don't have a zombies aura or asthetic to it like outbreak, mwz, and at the moment liberty falls as it detracts from the mode in it's enterity and what makes it stand apart from other co-op cod modes. • I don't like the current hud and ui system for zombies but with that being said they at least give you an option this time around to turn it off but what they should do is give you a classic hud or modern hud options with the ability to tweak both as needed. • I love how they let you choose between a set crew or generic operator, but I'm not a fan of how liberty falls doesn't have a set crew to play as. • I'm not a fan of the point system with how many points you currently have to spend to get things. If I were treyarch, I'd bring back the classic point system because that at least utilized the low damage weapons as point builders to help afford different purchases in the game. • I don't like how you can spawn in with any weapon as that detracts from relying on wall buys or the mystery box as much, part of the fun was spinning the box to get a op lmg or ppsh41 or what have ya but if it were me I'd make it a pistol or knife on spawn and you can keep weapon attatchments or camos on any weapon you get from the box or wall. • My biggest complaint that I'm sure the majority of zombies players would agree with me on is what in the fuck is the mystery box music 😂 seriously put in the classic music or make a toggle to use classic or modern. I know the development team wouldn't have the raygun and wonderwaffle in the game without the classic box music. 😅
I absolutely despise this version of Zombies conceptually, but this isn't because it is "different". I look at changes compared to what we had before, and the changes genuinely don't add to the experience and/or actively make it worse. No set crew in CW (and Liberty Falls) kills storytelling in a lot of ways, BO4 perk system sucked the identity out of the perks, the modern scoring system paired with stuff like repeated PAPing makes high rounds tedious, salvage in CW and BO6 is utterly worthless when points are already a universal currency, etc. I dislike BO6 zombies because the new stuff doesn't add to the experience in any meaningful way. The changes actively take away from the experience because they are not great gameplay elements, not because they aren't the mechanics I grew up with. In BO3, we got blatantly P2W gobblegums, weapon customization/progression, Apothicans, and 3 hit down. Compared to what came before, that's a huge departure - yet I feel like the gameplay was still true to its roots and had that classic zombies feel. New isn't bad, modern Zombies just keeps losing its soul by trying to innovate in areas that never needed to change. I have fully given up on 3arc and Zombies as a whole, BO3 custom zombies is all we really have to look forward to these days.
10:59 ive always found this funny, like bruh in Ascension you have a throwable black hole, then 3 maps later you teleport to the Moon Aliens were **not** out of the question for zombies even in Bo1
The big thing I’ve realized and pisses me off is that they are claiming these changes from Cold War are all so “casual players and non-zombies players can have fun and succeed”. That’s only half right. Even a lot of casual people are complaining about Liberty Falls and that seems to tell me that they / Activision are making these changes more directed to the Warzone and Multiplayer content creators and Tik Tok brain rotters. They’re making the mode easier and more “multiplayerfied” so they can seamlessly transition modes without them feeling different or overwhelming. They’re disregarding zombies fans all together and the only thing they still include for hardcore fans are Easter eggs, things that casual players and non-zombie players will probably not seek out and complete. Like you said, I’ll be waiting until release to try the mode out, but if it fails, then Zombies might be over and I truly hope that hurts Activision to the point where they stop doing Warzone or at the very least keep it as a separate entity from the other modes completely. So for me, it’s a win-win no matter if it sucks or if it’s good.
I think people need to realize and understand that when people say they want bo3 zombies again, they mean they want a zombies game AS GOOD AS BO3. I don’t think us og fans care about having another bo3 we just want a zombies experience as good as bo3 cause it was so well done. Now obviously we wouldn’t complain if treyarch announced that bo7 will be just like bo3 cause basically everyone likes that mode so much and the numbers prove it. But I’m pretty sure fans new and old would love a new zombies experience as good as bo3 rather than another bo3 if that makes sense. Obviously there’s still gonna be them fans who still gonna complain, but who knows maybe they’ll change there mind after seeing how amazing it truly is.
The problem is with that though is that BO3 was almost TOO good... Like it is insanely difficult to strike gold twice in that regard. Every single person would hope the newest installments would be as good as BO3 but it's just incredibly unlikely. Like I loved CW (I know I'm in the minority) despite it's flaws, however I still admit that BO3 was the greatest zombies game and it's not even close. Some people argue BO2 but I HEAVILY disagree. They just made a basically perfect game and people expect "It was done before so do it again" but it's not really possible. Think of how many fantastic movies exist that people love a lot so they make a sequel... now think about how many sequels are as good or better than the first. The bar becomes so high in some cases it's hard to reach.
@@yourface8700 that’s true but like I feel like bo6 could be up there with it, like if they brought back the shield and a unique zombies hud and gave us good maps like terminus so far is looking we can get close, zombies will end if they keep up this MP warzone zombies aesthetic. It’s just not what majority zombie fans want.
@@yourface8700 I truly believe it’s possible for treyarch to make a zombies experience as good as bo3 but it’s like they don’t want too in a way ya know. Like Cold War was understandable for not good quality maps and engine, but they didn’t have that much time. seeing liberty falls was heartbreaking for me cause it does not look good at all. It’s just weird cause they keep bringing up this “for new players” like treyarch we were new players at one point I think best thing for new players to do is to learn how to play zombies and if they don’t wanna then don’t play it. Cause I’m someone who cares about everything when it comes to zombies, and to see how lack luster liberty falls looked was just not good at all even for a “beginner map”.
@@rivals16x I’ve been saying this for a bit (and it’s just my way of coping) but I think the map will only look bland if you don’t do the EE. I think that’s their way of getting people to play the map that usually wouldn’t. And I’m not saying that’s a good design choice or anything but I feel like they think if a multiplayer person sees a map that looks like a multiplayer map on the surface they’d be more inclined to boot it up as opposed to Terminus that looks kinda “scary”. But what I mean by “only looks like that without ee” is that I think the ee will change the map as you progress. Like the dark aether will spread outside of the church and take over the map. It’s not a perfect solution but realistically a lot of the story reason why the map is bland is because it’s immediately after the outbreak, so I feel like it would make sense for the “zombified look” to develop. But idk like I said I’m coping at this point. Terminus looks fantastic and I hope there’s some twist with Liberty falls we haven’t seen yet to help with how the map looks. If the map looks the same even during the ee then it might be one of the weakest zombie maps ever (only the “fun factor” of the EE would help it at that point), but even then majority of zombies games have one weak map. Treyarch already said in a podcast that LF will be the only map designed this way, we just have to hope that’s true
@@rivals16x I have hope that Treyarch sees the responses to how the hud looks and cooks something up by launch, but you never know. Past that, technically the last time zombies had a shield was in Vanguard and it was part of The Archon which was a horrible map (even after Shi No Numa was a slight redeemer on vanguard), but it didn’t really solve any problems with the game. I think this game will be great as a minimum, we just have to see where the dlc maps go with it
I’m not saying it’s never the devs’ “fault”, I’m saying there’s no need to specifically target them and harass them for it. At the end of the day, it’s just a video game. Be nice.
Fortnite caused blackout, blackout sucked so they made warzone. Warzone did well and so they took too many aspects from it and threw it into zombies even though its like water and oil. Fortnite ruined gaming for consumers
Bo6 zombies just looks dull to me, if you like it, good for you, have fun. But for me, it looks more lifeless than vanguard zombies at launch, atleast vanguard zombies had a cool art style carrying it.
My mom growing up was awesome and extremely supportive. Now she's an alcoholic that my family cannot rely on as a support system. Modern CoD players are in the mindset that "Mom is just self-medicating!" or "She doesn't care that I don't do homework anymore, it's so cool!" They're more than fine with being neglected, and fail to see how great Mom used to be, perhaps because they never got to experience the genuine love that only the older brothers got to feel. Neglect and disregard is where their "Standards" lie, and I truly believe gaming is doomed with these Late-Zoomers/Generation Alpha.
The classic style of zombies needs to come back. I think Cold War strayed way too far from what zombies was. Call of Duty in general has become terrible since MW2019. In MP good players are punished for doing well in public casual playlists. Making casual playlists feel like a constant MLG tournament. I mean people may ad well just play ranked 24/7 because of this. And warzone needs to go too. They need to go back to trend setting instead of ripping off trends
Personally I’m not buying it bc it looks like Cold War 2.0, and I hate it. I’ll go back to BO3 and play mods and wait another 4 years till they get it right
It’s obvious they didn’t put much effort into this Zombies mode. It feels like a lazy, linear map thrown together in a rush, with a low poly count and that’s sacrificing quality. Compared to the dynamic, open-world fun of MW3’s DMZ style zombies, this is a pathetic afterthought. The lack of detail and care is glaringly obvious.
Given the rumors/leaks we currently have, which include a classic mode and grief, plus 4 additional maps, plus terminus, if ALL of those given things are actually true, then they simply made an absolute terrible decision by showing the worst out of that entire bundle of content at COD NEXT (liberty falls.) Monumentally terrible marketing decision. If those things aren’t true and liberty falls is an accurate representation of the entire game mode, we are so screwed.
I sorta get why you feel this way but Terminus doesn't seem to be *lazy* if I'm being honest. That one seems to have a lot of care put into it from what it seems. I just hope the rest of the DLC maps match the quality of that if anything.
Saying that the game is bad but you're going to buy it anyways is just crazy to me. This is going to be the first and only COD I'm not going to play based on the gameplay I've watched.
BO1 is THE golden standard. BO3 chronicles is the most sold DLC. Cold War is great for newer players to get into zombies, horrible for BO3 or older players. BO6 is trying it seems to cater both, but is still heavily trying to attract Warzone players. We at least have Terminus at launch to play. If the 3rd map at the end of the year is another Liberty Falls attempt, zombies, as older fans know it, is the final, final nail in the coffin.
Keep hearing RBZ yet all I see is warzone mp type zombies. Just wish custom zombies was on all platforms and then you'll see what zombies is capable off.U can tell those who made WaW BO1 and BO2 zombies especially don't work on zombies anymore. Zombies needs it's own hud just for starters minimal or none at all. The aura atmosphere needs to be so important and survival from scratch. Smh. False advertising of returning to classic zombies should be held responsible. Whoever approved the changed point system and removed DT should of got fired on the spot.
“well maybe the map is not finished” bruh it comes out in less than two months. “how did people get the idea of a bonus map?” look into the details, their change of wording, and the way they are handling liberty falls vs the other map i could care less of knowing the name. MrRoflWaffles made a video breaking down how it is essentially being treated as a bonus map based on the criteria.
2019 was such a mirage and we’re paying for it now…… everything that is mw 2019 has completely stripped the identity of cod and has made it a bs shooter
1:56 As a matter of fact, I can. Every time I pay a dollar more, a cashier at the local gas station always asks me, "Do you want change?" And I'm like, "Well, yeah!" then I just take the quarters back in my pocket. Though some dude with a bob haircut once asked me NOT to put it in my backpocket after I won a game of heads-or-tales, hey whatever. So suck on that, Treyarch meat riders 😎
this video just made me realize they did the same thing with the new mw2 recently saying the og mw2 maps were going to be there just so people would pre order and now for bo6 they marketed the core bo3 experience because they know people would pre order and then we end up getting the same shitty armor warzone system
I like to think the Devs know what we want, but the heads of COD and Activision are forcing them to make everything Warzone. Kevin Drew worked on BO3, I think he knows what we want but is being forced to do some things
yeah ngl liberty falls does look ass i hope they add some atmosphere before it comes out ill still try it and if i still dont like it ill stick to terminus
Just because we have a bland looking boring map doesn't mean we get maps like this after. We can get better maps than Terminus and liberty balls hopefully
Feel like it was a mistake for Liberty Falls to be shown off at COD Next instead of Terminus. Even though they revealed Terminus already, it clearly has an aesthetic and theme behind it. If they really wanted to show off Liberty Falls, they needed to allow content creators to use Augments and show off what possibilities you can do especially since there’s over 100 at launch. And while having the mp/wz creators play the mode to showcase that everyone can play zombies, focusing on the zombies creators would be better since they know what to expect and showcase content “better”. Not to say I’m “gatekeeping” but rather people want to see players who know how the game functions.
Honestly I think we’re seeing a divide between generations of cod fans more than ever is what a lot of debate comes down to 😂 younger fans will understand in a few years when things they enjoyed get phased out I do gotta say tho, people arguing that this is just a beta gotta stop. They’ve been doing this for years, they wanna secure some pre-orders and MAYBE make a few small changes. If people aren’t liking what they see gameplay wise, not much is going to change.
There's some things that can change but lots that won't. In 2 months they could easily design a zombified hud and tweak difficulty settings (I personally think the problem was how OP the jet gun was). However the look of the map likely won't change. And if it does it probably was meant to change as part of the easter egg or something
I don’t think bo6 will be terrible but it won’t be as great as bo2/3 it’s probably going to be a upgrade from Cold War the only thing I hate that’s returning and will probably will stay is the weapon rarity cause it just feels lazy, wasn’t really necessary and just makes guns boring because they virtually do the same amount of damage I miss point guns or power house weapons I miss making my own decision on which gun I should take instead of taking whatever gun I just get cause in the end it just didn’t matter what weapons I had cause they were all the same and made the game way to easy and just always the same and boring
Wrong it didn't the game easy and it's not boring. Rarity would have been good if they just removed the ability to upgrading it on the arsenal because if you wanted an high rarity powerful weapon you simply you doesn't need to buy a one from the mystery box or the wall you basically go on and upgrading it on the arsenal which makes the wallbuys and mystery box useless
@@Nooneishereonlyme getting rid of the arsenal doesn’t fix the problem it just causes more issues all the weapon rarity system is just reinventing the wheel instead of just upgrading or enhancing the one that already worked so now this new one just has issues that causes problems that can’t be fixed without screwing up everything else On a side note there’s a reason why I can find games easier for bo1-3 zombies than Cold War zombies
"Don't hate the devs, that shit gotta stop" we made constructive criticism. They didn't listen and they made fun of us multiple times (last time was thanks for the feedback in a way it's everyone when it's a small part of people). It has been warzonified and we get ignored. They make/made crap zombies since COLD WAR (although the wonder weapons were great in cw). So wether it's the devs or activision ? I don't care. Last time teyarch was nice to us ? It was giving us mod tool on BO3. Treyarch those late years, incarnates the stereotype of the wife asking for the husband opinion ? But chooses the opposite. Zombies is ass since cold war. THEY DON'T WANT TO MAKE A CLOSE TO PERFECTION like BO3 zombies because the yearly release moddel.
Dont blame the devs, blame Activision for the design choices of zombies, plus most of the devs have no control over the game yet they are still getting all the heat from it
@@reggilad_9043 Who said anything about attacking? The devs can be criticised without abuse... Just because 1 nutter on Twitter tells a dev to KYS doesn't mean the whole community is a bunch of abusive psycopaths...
@@it2spooky4me79doing what job? The past few games has been horrible and the devs haven't listened.... tf....if the devs are forced, they seem to love it since they are still working there 😂😂😂
This game and series badly needs destructible environments. The way the maps are stale and just feel so dead overall feels like a hamster wheel of a game. They need something to keep the gameplay fresh other than expensive skins running around.
I’ve been playing zombies since bo1 and I’m really excited for bo6 zombies, I don’t understand how or why people try to bring down new games before it even releases, I think what treyarch has done so far with the two new zombie map reveals are really great and am excited to see what they have to offer
Actually... i know why people hate change... Because if core mechanics change , that's means no more zombie chronicles for us... We always wish old maps come back by new cool graphics.
Honestly I get that the golden age from waw to bo3 was great but we need to admit that from the gameplay’s it looks good and that we can’t affirm that it’s gonna be bad we can say it looks good or it looks bad until we have the game in game
I mean, I'm still going to play the map/game since I have it on gamepass but I just hope the experience gets more ironed out as time goes on. I also hope that we'll be able to experience this so-called "Classic Mode" people have apparently found
I honestly dont know what casuals the game wants because every casual zombie player I interact with dont like how BO6 looks because its too similar to warzone so who are they catering to? idk also BO3 got a lot of hate once the game was out I remember lex didnt like shadows because it was too complex and he did a video with a guy who both were saying the game was easy and hard at the same time so with Bo6 people might change their mind and like the game when it comes out
There’s also a large group of casuals that aren’t really zombies fans necessarily, but they’ll end up playing it to level up guns for MP and Warzone. But like I said before, I think those players would play regardless of the mechanics as long as they can grind that stuff out and shoot zombies lol.
@@Xpertfusion yeah I think for Cold War majority of people who played was because of Warzone pretty sure when Rebirth Island came out it was Warzones highest player count so obviously people are gonna want to level up weapons in something that isn’t MP just too many factors that made CW the most played zombies, I mean when it comes to content that people outside the community reference is never Cold War is always BO3, BO2 and BO1 never the new zombies so a bit strange too, personally I like a lot of the Cold War systems tho I wish they tweaked something’s but again who are they catering to? It almost feels like nobody likes it only the hardcore players that been sticking with zombies forever and don’t mind these game mechanics or Jr Rizzo fans
I personally dropped off when BO3 came out. The story was getting to complex and as someone who liked a casual map SoE was not for me. I also was getting annoyed with COD in general. BO2 i wasnt initially a fan of and still dont really have a desire to play it. I got back into Zombies with BO4 and i played it a bit. Then i just played Overwatch. Played Cold War Zombies and honestly I liked it a lot. EE's always seemed too "big brain" and i was not ever in the mood to do random bs for a crumb of story. So Cold War having a more solid narrative was good for me. Granted I kind of hated that Treyarch seems to want to spoil everything and act like we don't understand basic story concepts. Idk im interested to see what they cooked and if i can chill and grind some maggot addicts ill be happy as a clam. Pleased as punch even.
Activision,small to medium sized scarily themed maps Pack a punch Starting pistol Perks Easter eggs Mystery box There ya go,you can send my paycheck to my Venmo
My man has a good valid take hes on the middle He likes some parts and debunks the haters opinions but he also gets negative on some features thet the community really dont like about
I think the internet is just dumb, everyone wines about EAUFC games but those are so peak imo and I’ve had the best experience with my family. Let’s wait to see how these zombie modes play
I really liked Cold War zombies, but I didn’t like the maps as much as bo3, but I didn’t have a problem with the gameplay changes at all. The art direction just wasn’t as good as bo3, the only one that I think matches bo3 for map design and art direction is Maur der toten, it’s the only one that isn’t a military base and the setting is unique
its just mwz now to cater to MP/warzone players. supposedly 4 years in development, looks like they made it last week. I did enjoy MWZ BUT it was filler till "zombies" was back. Criticism has been definitely warranted.
Honestly now we are crying about the HUD since idk bo4 ? or at least coldwar and where is the change ? every youtuber is making a video and they watch this videos but there is no change! and there will be no change if they do well of course i will like it but i think they not even change the skybox in the Balls map. so yea the HUD will be also not get any changes because they now we are crying now over 4 years for a better HUD and here we are 4 years later with warzone HUD
Ok? Point is. It took real skill to get to high waves, so we’re expected to get to 40 then it’s hard? Nah, I remember getting to 25 was something big. Then 30 and above is impressive. I don’t get why things are being added to some zombies easier? I’m not a sounding like an old fart but if they add all these things they need to make it hard and let us get afraid when we take 3 hits. Not wait until 10 hits in and it’s a problem. Or maybe all they need to do is make a way we can select a difficulty.
Yall know why know the number one main reason destiny is so popular is because the gunplay is fricking good, the same went for cods before they started going down a different path(bo3 has such good gunplay especially) with the gunplay starting when the battle royale trend came out in cod and in all of the cods at that point just felt worse to me and I'm not trying to hate them, I'm even trying out the bo6 beta which although it doesn't give me that feeling I am enjoying it some amount but I will say what is with the trend with the boring huds and I dont mean just zombies
Thank you so much yes we aren’t just complaining about this specific game we’ve been fighting since Cold War come out we HATE this warzone zombies it’s not the mode with played and loved for years and if you have to change for changes sake then please understand sometimes you have to go back to drawing board and try again and this isn’t it yes some thing changed from Cold War from what I hear but we don’t need things like ammo boxes or weapon rarity in this game and asking side of tons of other features
