For me it would be (and actually is) a steel hardtail. I have owned everything up to 170mm enduro bikes, but as I get older, the hardtail does everything I want whether doing loops or riding for literally a week at a time. I currently own a Cotic SolarisMAX with 120mm SID Ultimate fork, and it is the most enjoyable bike I have ever owned, for all types of rides. I don't need another bike. Everyone should try a decent steel hardtail at least once!
As a mountain biker who is primarily interested in covering long distances off pavement and has zero interest in jumps, shredding, and riding over big rocks... I'll take a long legged trailbike or a downcountry bike as "the only bike I need", thank you. Anything more than that, enduro bikes included, would be massive overkill for me
I have only only one mtb, which happens to be an enduro bike : a Kona process 153. Quite heavy, but can do it all. Actually I love the confidence that both suspensions and knobby tires give me.
I'd say All Mountain as they are like Enduro bikes from 2-3 years ago. Modern enduro bikes are a bit overkill unless you have the trails to get full benefit otherwise the ride can become dull. So if you're riding black / black diamond enduro downhills 90% of the time then get an enduro bike.
I’d say it depends on location and preferences. If you live near and find yourself riding a lot of long, rough descents or if you like having more suspension, an enduro bike would be smart. If you live somewhere with less elevation and trails with more frequent grade reversals, or if you want something more nimble then go for the trail bike. I ride a mix of both so I got a GT Force, it’s not too slack and long but has 170mm of front travel and 150mm out back, and can be run as a mullet setup. The only downside to it is that it’s heavy.
Well, I guess I can agree with the message. And I don't mind seeing more enduro content. Still, the channel seems to be biased towards a downhill portion of the MTB spectrum. Personally, I'm more interested in the XC side of MTB, so I would appreciate more XC content too. By XC I don't mean only formal discipline and kind of a bike, but also all kinds of endurance, relatively long rides with an equal amount of climbs as downhill (if not more climbs actually) in varied off-road terrain. MTB marathons included.
My first full suspension bike(purchased 3 months ago)is Enduro bike. I bought it for all the reasons you said. The main reason is because I am beginner rider and poor. I know the type of riding I want to learn, I bought a bike so that my skills can grow into it, rather than in a couple of years having to buy new bike because the terrain I am riding(North Shore and other parts of B.C.)would be too much for a shorter travel bike as I progress up the trail difficulty.
my 2021 Scott Ransom 920 with twinloc really does it all !!! with 170 mm ,120 mm travel ,or full lock out and it climbs like a billygoat , chair lift on the weekends and local blue trails afterwork during the week ,BOOM drop the mic 😅
My “one bike” is the 2023 Trek Fuel EX 8, Gen 6. A beefed up 150/140 alloy frame trail bike with enduro capability. Not too pricey. Bought one last April and it’s just what I was looking for. Perfect fit for me. Thanks, all the best.
Yeah I finally just made the move myself, from an Ibis Ripmo to a Rocky Mountain Altitude. I ride a fair bit of park but don't want a dedicated park bike, so the Altitude fills the role well.
I have been riding one bike for 3 years, an enduro! It has been great for me and what i like to ride, big mountain epic trails. I also race in a local series and have done fairly well, I thinkn a trail bike would help in the series. I like my big bike I can ride anywhere.
My short travel 120 rear 130 front norco fluid with a 66.5 head angle is the only bike I need, it handles everything I throw at it, including steep gnarly double black bike park tracks, my previous bike was a trek slash enduro bike too, and the short travel norco is much more fun to ride, don't be fooled by the more is always better trend, that's just a way for manufacturers to sell more bikes.
I dont race XC anymore and spend at least one or two weeks doing long tours with a lot of climbing (1000 - 2000m a day) i have two bikes. An Orbea Oiz TR (120/120) and a Canyon Spectral (150/160). This year i took the Spectral out for a week and was pleased, but did not do any climbs over 800m. It did climb better than i thought and it payed off on the downhills. To the point, i a climb is over 100m, i take the TR. 500-100m, both bikes would work and i decide by considering the descent. Less than 500m a day, i take the Canyon, just because its fun.
There is another option: aggressive trail bikes. Aggressive trail bikes have less “wobble” going up technical climbs (due to their slightly more conservative head-tube angles). They are also lighter, more agile, and still highly capable on the descents. I’ve been customizing my trail bike to make it more “aggressive,” and I never feel over/under biked. Cheers!✌️
It’s true, but for some like me,another sample size of one, I wanna shred this thing at downhill parks and down trails as fast as I can. So I’m not worried about the uphill.
I have multiple bikes and I find myself reaching for my enduro bike, Revel Rail 27.5, more often than the others. Performs like a trail bike on the trail and crushes bike parks.
Ever since i got a full sus (Spectral 29) MTB has become an obsession rather than just a hobby for me. 70% of my riding is XC/Trail, but when I do drive to a bike park the bike's just an absolute dream to ride. Without direct comparison there's no way for me to know just how much harder the clibs are, so I just don't really think about it and zoom up the hill.
What would a maxed out hardtail look like because I know that the extremely basic hardtail's rear wheel doesn't want to go over heavy roots and rocks even with weight shifting.
I think that the real essential question is: to have only one bike, is that really possible? You have several videos asking riders "How many bikes do you have?"; as far as I can remember, no one has answer "ONE"!!!
I have a Spectral which to me is a perfect compromise, 160 mm front, 150 rear is not really enduro but also not really trail anymore. Climbs very well, doesn't shy away from rough enduro trails. That being said, one bike in garage? Is that even possible?
I work at a bike park and have both an enduro and downhill bike. I almost always ride my enduro bike (Devinci Spartan) and never feel underbiked. Descends and jumps great and although not an ideal climber it will do it. Enduro bike for me (mostly downhill) is easily the way to go. Also unless you're racing downhill I think enduro bikes are just more fun than a full on downhill bike in general.
Depends...Most people i know have bikes that are way more capable than their riding is or ever will be...so i recommend a trail-bike is all you need ( i went back from enduro full sus to a P7 hardtail...)
All-Mountain: SC Hightower, Ripmo, SB 140, Pivot Switchblade if you tend to go for the Enduro-type bikes because you can ride these all-day and in bike parks. But in reality, if you want to ride 95% of the trails ALL DAY having fun, short-travel trail bikes that are also super capable are all you need: SC Tallboy, Pivot Trail 429, SB 120, YT Izzo in the top builds. Enduro bikes are dinosaurs.
i think it depends on the terrain around you ... if you don't have the terrain to need an enduro bike, then a trailbike is all you need, and it will climb better
I do like long distance and uphill climbing.. but I also can’t help myself bombing gnarly downhill and rock gardens. Happy with an enduro bike as my only bike until I get an XC/trail bike for the less rowdy or longer trails
As others have mentioned, it depends on where you live and what kind of rider you are! For me, a denizen of the High Rockies, the so-called Enduro bike is where it's at.
It just depends on where a person wants to compromise. If going downhill is the most important thing, go for an enduro bike. If going uphill is more important, get a trail bike. And if you can't decide, go for an all-mountain. 140/150mm rear and 150mm front is probably the best compromise if you can't decide. For me an enduro bike with 160/170mm travel is enough.
It largely depends on the trails you ride and even the word Enduro encompasses a lot of different behaving bikes even though they have similar suspension travel. Some Enduro bikes just want to plow and others offer as much pop as a trail bike while offering quick acceleration and climb very well when not running heavy DH casing tires with super soft compounds. Heck my CFR is only 33.5lbs with DD tires, which is not bad. I prefer my strive CFR over anything else I have ridden and that includes hardtails as well as various 130, 140, 150 and other 160mm bikes. That is not to say that I would not have a blast on something else, just prefer the extra measure of speed, control and forgiveness I can achieve with an good Enduro bike so I am not as beat up at the end of the riding day on steep and fast black and double black PNW tech. When I was riding mostly flowy trails, I was perfectly content with less travel.
The M size trail bike is what you've been searching for, in your last couple of videos. For me it would be Lg. for a dually, and a 150m fork. I went with 2XL on a street HT for the position. And it endos slower. 😮
This is a prospective from an average fitness and skill rider. I rode few different trail and enduro bikes, even xc, and for me the good trail all rounder seems to be the bike I would be getting, because I have steep uphill....but I got narly descends as well, but trail bikes always surprises me (levo, fuel ex), I had tons of fun with enduro (ransom, one-sixty), but from what I experienced, trail or allmountain bikes win for me, because you can take them anywhere and they leave a smile on your face always.... I so struggle with enduros uphill if no they would win...
I love my steel single pivot 153 rear/160 front bike. A bit heavy to tug around with but once going downhill feels nimble but tracks the ground so well. Compared to other enduro bikes I have tried it feels poppy and agile but in that it carves, pops, schralps etc.. its not for janky flat trails.
I had a choice of trail or enduro at the same price. I opted for trail since alot of my riding would be with the family on very mild inclines and declines. It was also a million miles better than my 2001 trek vrx2000 for everything and even a trail bike was a bike that was held back by the rider more than anything else.
Sold my old downhill and full sus mtb bike to replace them with a single enduro bike, it was a great decision. Not as good for dh as a dhbike, but good enough for the Trails i do and my skill level, and still Light enough to pedal, and 2 suspensions to service instead of 4
I have an Oiz TR with 120/120, and a Canfield Lithium with 163/180. The Canfield can do everything the Oiz does, but I'm not sure the opposite is true, at least for my skill level. That said, the Canfield is not as nice to ride on my local old school New England XC trails as the Oiz, so by having the two I can choose the best bike for a particular ride. I would be very interested in trying the Canfield Tilt built to maybe 130/150 travel to see how that spits the difference between my current rides.
I currently ride my second Trek Remedy 8 allmountain/enduro (😢160/150) with 27,5 tires and its my do it all bike. It climbs well, decents like a champ and is fun at bikeparks. Its not that heavy and has nice specs which are perfect for me. I also use it as dirtparks/pumptracks or ride street with it. The new enduros (long, slack more travel) would be too much for me. 😅
Lots of travel makes you faster by making dh easier. Good if you want to make it easy as possible, make the bike do the work for you. Doesn't make it more fun, quite the opposite. If you're not racing and don't need those seconds, XC or trail and taking it slower will be more fun, with the added bonus of much more versatility everywhere else. Most of us aren't doing trails / parks where an enduro or DH is the only bike that will make it to the bottom.
I'm planning on getting a full sus soon and would love to see a video with you guys riding trail bikes and enduros doing a pros and cons comparison. As others said, there was a recent video saying a trail bike is all you need, settle the argument 😁
Im so happy that I NOT bought a enduro bike. You can do so much with a trail bike and fells so alive. Of course if you want to go hard, maybe don’t choose the lightes trail bike.
I'll through my 2 cents worth out, however biased it may sound. I own one real mountain bike. A 2021 Scott Ransom . All alloy build with fox 38, 180 grip 2 , Dhx2. 29 inch front and back, 203 rotors, X01 mech. Nx crank and cassette. 35mm bars. It comes in around 35lbs. What more do you need?
Well this is timely. I’m looking for a bike I can ride on the downhill trails with my kids (who are leaving me for dust on my 90’s GT XC bike😂) but I need to be able to ride back up and maybe towing abilities too so a e-bike version would be good.
I think it very depends on where you live and what trails you would usually ride. I have a trail bike (Rocky Mountain Element 2022) an on S3 trails I often wish I had an enduro bike..
I'm currently asking myself this question, I haven't ridden my MTB after cleaning it the last time because I'm not sure if I want to sell it and get a hardtail that only costs half and would be enough for my riding. But then I'm thinking to myself that more suspension is also "nice to have" even if I don't need it. I'm more of a tour rider, and not so much trails, so I just don't know what to do at this point, it's annoying. Pedaling a long travel 15 kg bike uphill a lot is no fun thought
Would it be possible to address the riders weight in regards to the travel "needed". I'm a light rider. Would a trail bike be a better fit as a light rider? I heard 180 mill travel. I dont use the 100 mil I have now.
I’ve got a Forbidden Druid but I would like to try a burly enduro like a Nukeproof Giga or Norco Range, something that’s one shade off a DH bike… maybe a Dreadnought?
@@kevinburke1325 or perhaps ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1RJ_3swa4Ts.html ? I mean HT is not the best for the really rough stuff obviously, but with good rider it gets over pretty much anything.
I use a rugged XC bike for moving around, climbing mountains and doing trails, send me that enduro bike and I can answer if it does everything as well as mine
The one bike would be an e trail/ enduro like the Whyte e 160 or spec levo. All the benefits of a solid built descent bike, with great uphill capability’s ( a Bosch motor) Chicken dinner. Think the Whyte has lifetime bearing warranty ?
Hell naw, if it's pedal only, then a modern lightweight trail bike is ideal. With a lightweight wheelset, a 140-150mm fork, and anywhere between 2.3 to 2.6 light fast rolling tires. (maybe a grippier front tire). That would be my ideal setup. Enduro bikes are just way too heavy to pedal uphill for the average rider. For me to consider having only an Enduro bike, it would have to be an eBike.
Find out what the experienced riders prefer on your local trails - this is where 90% of your riding will be. DH bikes look cool but they are a very specific tool for a very specific job - going downhill as fast as possible at the expense of everything else. This will be a miserable ownership experience on trails with more than even the smallest amount of pedalling. Similarly Enduro is a race bike and is too much bike for most people, in my humble opinion. These days, having gone all across the spectrum, I ride a hardtail with 120mm fork and I'm happy on my local mellow loops. If I wanted to head to the Alps I could always hire a bigger bike.
@@dave_clarke I’m stuck in between bikes, I used to ride DH Iv ridden 4x dabbled in enduro and loved lung busting XC but now after a decade and a half hiatus I’m back and all I see are E bikes and long travel bikes on the trails. I opted for an AM bike for the longest amount of time the Devinci Dixon loved the bike but I needed something more capable, I went to a 27.5 wheel but feel the bikes a majorly expensive nowadays. I used to build my bikes from second hand parts now it cost so much more to do this. I may just go with the good old faithful 26” trail xc am and DH bikes as I can get one of each for the cost of a new bike nowadays.
NOT DH !!! Way too niche, and unusable 90% of the time. Get a lightweight trail bike with 130-150mm of travel. I would only consider Enduro if it's an eBike (or if you're an olympic athlete).
@@usernamefromhell so I ride a lot at DYFI on a modified XC bike 130/150 but it needs a lot more suppleness I may opt for the e-bike enduro as it’s the type of bike every one and their dog has nowadays. Lol
I haven't really got a clue about which mountain bike type is best or to have. I know certain bikes have good reviews and have good value for money. But after that confusion. E MBT'S? Not a freakin' clue!!
@@kevinburke1325 I can get over rocks and roots a lot of the time, you just go a bit slower, take your time, sometimes they are too big for sure. You'll get there 🙂
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"If you can't decide between a downhill bike and a trail bike"... you have no idea if you want to be able to pedal up hill or even on flat with your bike.
