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Is the NEW Reclaimer 18 Shotgun Any Good? | (Stats & Best Attachments) 

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Welcome to Modern Warfare III Gun Guides! This is the series where I dive deep into the stats of a gun and share the best attachment setups based on tons of testing and data collection! In today's episode, we're breaking down the Reclaimer 18 (SPAS 12) Shotgun. What are your thoughts on this gun in MWIII?
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0:00 Intro
0:20 Rate of Fire (Pump vs Semi)
0:48 Range & Shots to Kill (Pump)
1:35 Range & Shots to Kill (Semi)
2:30 Pellet Spread Comparisons
3:22 Handling Stats
4:28 Movement Speeds
4:54 Barrel Stats
5:57 Ammo Types
7:36 Reclaimer 18 - All Around Pump Build
8:59 Reclaimer 18 - Tac Stance Build
10:10 Reclaimer 18 - Semi-Auto Hipfire Build
11:29 Final Thoughts & Wrap Up

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@BSoloe
@BSoloe 3 дня назад
I’ve never seen a shotty that’s so trash and so good at the same time 😂
@jeremybrown9611
@jeremybrown9611 3 дня назад
😂😂😂😂
@raptonsoul2557
@raptonsoul2557 3 дня назад
It’s honestly really weird that pump and semi have two completely different spreed with different properties when adsing
@inconspicuous7464
@inconspicuous7464 3 дня назад
The 680 from mw19 was similar to this too
@Calma123_
@Calma123_ 3 дня назад
​@inconspicuouds7464 dont you ever compare the model 680 with this garbage we got now
@elvistwatty
@elvistwatty 3 дня назад
@bsoloe what's up
@isaiahmiller9142
@isaiahmiller9142 3 дня назад
This explains why it felt so bad compared to the other shotguns, which already feel terrible compared to last year. That extra 50 health with no other changes seems to have ruined more than a few weapons, including the crossbow.
@ignasias
@ignasias 3 дня назад
I still main crossbow. It's definitely worse than it was in mw2. But slosive bolts are still always a one-shot, regular bolts can still one-shot to the upper chest. Thermite bolts have become useless though. Fart bolts were always useless lol
@isaiahmiller9142
@isaiahmiller9142 3 дня назад
@@ignasias I never mained it, but it was fun to grind out and go back to every so often. Now, it would be a complete slog, especially with how many people are running EOD.
@medleyfriends9525
@medleyfriends9525 3 дня назад
​@@isaiahmiller9142afaik, the Crossbow will kill EOD users with a stuck bolt
@dankmctwist6575
@dankmctwist6575 3 дня назад
meanwhile melee players get to walk around the corner completely unaware of their surroundings, tank 6 shots and then one shot you🤦‍♂️ at this point just bring panic knifing back😭
@isaiahmiller9142
@isaiahmiller9142 2 дня назад
@@dankmctwist6575 anyway, here's this buckshot *hitmarker on melee user* Guess I'll respawn then
@RipVanWinkle-zm7vs
@RipVanWinkle-zm7vs 3 дня назад
Being able to use this thing in MWIII and then going straight to the MW2 2009 SPAS-12 just puts you on perspective on how trash this game balancing is. They seem to love one shot snipers but lord forgive SH if they make a shotgun good
@Cookies-uw1wp
@Cookies-uw1wp 3 дня назад
really sad after how they made the kar a god weapon
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 3 дня назад
Funny how it’s the exact opposite in warzone, this is actually amazing in warzone while the snipers are ass
@fuhrerhosty
@fuhrerhosty 3 дня назад
@@Deathmare235 Nobody cares about warzone though.
@utopicdistortion4330
@utopicdistortion4330 3 дня назад
Are you really comparing this game to MW2 2009? lmao There was NO balance in that game, everything was overpowered, get out of here.
@KAACHOW
@KAACHOW 3 дня назад
They’re trying so hard to please the community, but mostly everyone in the community complains about shotguns being OP. In the one place they’re supposed to excel at, they suck. Instead of blaming shotguns being for being OP, they should blame themselves for being braindead and having bad positioning.
@ScarsOfTheStars
@ScarsOfTheStars 3 дня назад
Its likely for balance reasons but having a shotgun that requires two shots to kill feels so wrong
@jonathanwilson1539
@jonathanwilson1539 3 дня назад
Blame the community..
@ianday5604
@ianday5604 3 дня назад
Do you Remember the Brecii from BO3? If a semi-auto Shotgun has a consistent enough 2 Hit kill it can be super strong.
@raptonsoul2557
@raptonsoul2557 3 дня назад
It’s tubler so I would say give it better damage and one tap in semi like the haymaker, it really needs it for semi
@raptonsoul2557
@raptonsoul2557 3 дня назад
@@jonathanwilson1539ya small map brainrot tends to do that to people, the shotguns in this game need buffs
@BackupReal
@BackupReal 3 дня назад
The fact is easier to win close to medium gunfights with sniper rifles than literal shotguns or SMGS tells you all about this games weapon balancing. 150hp shouldn't be a thing. I recommend trying 100hp on private matches.
@reesemoore8542
@reesemoore8542 3 дня назад
Most of the time the shotgun is going to one shot it insane ranges and then other times you're going to get a point blank ADS headshot hit marker
@Calma123_
@Calma123_ 3 дня назад
no its not lol
@BackupReal
@BackupReal 3 дня назад
@@Calma123_ I got a 15 meter one shot kill and immediately loose a point blank gunfight with 3 hit markers. This is spot on
@Calma123_
@Calma123_ 3 дня назад
@@BackupReal yh 15 meter one shot out of 1/10 times trying
@drakey2000
@drakey2000 3 дня назад
After playing with it yea. It's wonky lol. Albeit don't have all attachs
@mrlamichael1
@mrlamichael1 3 дня назад
Bro it’s so inconsistent 😂😂
@epicgamerzfail4575
@epicgamerzfail4575 3 дня назад
idk whats with cod devs and making the alternate ammo types always significantly worse for shotguns. Also shame to see how bad the semi auto mode is; was hoping we could get a hybrid semi auto/pump action gun, but it seems like there's no reason to use this gun in semi auto mode aside from the funnies.
@freezypop8799
@freezypop8799 3 дня назад
Making slugs so bad is the thing I don’t get, it should be able to one shot body consistently to at least the same as the default ammos max damage range, imo it wouldn’t be OP because it’s just a watered down sniper
@mryellow6918
@mryellow6918 3 дня назад
@@freezypop8799 i think they are terrified at a vanguard situation
@KAACHOW
@KAACHOW 3 дня назад
@@mryellow6918i thought MW2 had a good middle ground
@Tiduspeco
@Tiduspeco 3 дня назад
2 notes about this shotgun. First, for some reason they decided to completely break the Crown Breaker Choke which was the go-to choice for hip fire as it was way better at that than the other chokes. Now it's so bad that it has worse hip fire than the Bryson Choke and without the added ADS spread buff you get with the Bryson and Bryson Improved Chokes. This applies across all shotguns and effectively nerfed all of them quite a bit. Second, I've tested all configurations of this shotgun and found that the damage in pump-action is actually different depending on if you ADS or not. Fully set up for range and hip fire spread, it would 1-shot ADS kill up to about 18m. But when hip firing, I could not find a consistent 1-shot range at all. Even at under 5m with all pellets hitting the target, it would only sometimes 1-shot, even in tac-stance. So similar to the MW2 guns switched to semi-auto mode, this gun has 2 different damage values in pump-action mode depending if you're ADS or not. Because of these 2 things, I wouldn't waste my time on this gun anymore until they do something to fix it. As trash as the Lockwood 680 is, it's still a better shotgun than this.
@mikomondaysharp
@mikomondaysharp 3 дня назад
noticed the choke change immediately surprised ace didnt mention it at all in his video...
@steppenhenge
@steppenhenge 2 дня назад
@@mikomondaysharp I noticed my ball riveter hipfire min isn't 0.0 anymore...
@RobertoHernandez-ce2fv
@RobertoHernandez-ce2fv 3 дня назад
I unlocked the spas yesterday and it’s been VERY inconsistent. Even at point blank I’m getting hit markers. Trash shotgun only got added as “fan service” 😂. No matter how many shotguns get added, Lockwood 680 will always be king.
@Honeneko.
@Honeneko. 3 дня назад
I've been getting some ridiculous long shots, so idk.
@BackupReal
@BackupReal 3 дня назад
Im just glad we actually got another "Modern" Warfare weapon instead of another AW gun
@getthegoons
@getthegoons 3 дня назад
​@@BackupRealSpas-12 was manufactured 1979-2000. Chronologically I want to say it's further from us, than the Bal-27 is.
@BackupReal
@BackupReal 3 дня назад
@@getthegoons I understand your point, but its still a totally out of place fictional weapon for this franchise. So its the same story
@RipVanWinkle-zm7vs
@RipVanWinkle-zm7vs 3 дня назад
​@@getthegoonsSo which is the fake weapon? The SPAS or the BAL?
@smallvillefever6258
@smallvillefever6258 3 дня назад
It's not a bad shotgun, but it's definitely inconsistent at close range. You will one-shot people, but then at another close range, you have to shoot 2 or 3 times to kill... at the same range.
@Calma123_
@Calma123_ 3 дня назад
its pure garbage, even worse than the lockwood nerfed 680
@theholyfetus3097
@theholyfetus3097 3 дня назад
It's completely terrible. How much did you smoke before writing this absurdity?
@smallvillefever6258
@smallvillefever6258 3 дня назад
@theholyfetus3097 I mean at one game I went with 50 plus kills with it. I wouldn't call it terrible, it's inconsistent. If you having trouble with it, that's a you problem bro
@shadowtitan8545
@shadowtitan8545 3 дня назад
​@smallvillefever6258 it's a good shotgun but a coin flip if it wants to one-shot makes it bad imo. (I dropped 54 kills with it last night) but then there are games where the Lockwood is better.
@smallvillefever6258
@smallvillefever6258 3 дня назад
@shadowtitan8545 How I base a terrible weapon is when it's constantly shitty at damage wise and does nothing but actually get you killed most of the time. This shotty is just inconsistent and not terrible cause one minute it does one shot, and the next, it doesn't. If that gets fixed then we have a great shotgun. But I respect your opinion as well, this is just my opinion
@DainRiffgin89
@DainRiffgin89 3 дня назад
Part of the issue with it feeling inconsistent is, if you look at the advanced stats, it deals 88 damage to the head and upper chest, but 44 to the lower torso and legs. So to get those consistent 1 shot kills, you need to aim for their upper chest. I will admit I have gone on some nasty tears with this gun, but it is so inconsistent that I can also get tons of hit markers even against players that are already hurt. While the range can be nasty, semi auto is not great and pump is only good if you ads and are aiming high. Honestly I would be willing to lose some range for more consistency, because other than novelty, I feel the Lockwood 680 is still better overall. And don’t get me started on the utter state of MWII shotguns…
@utopicdistortion4330
@utopicdistortion4330 3 дня назад
i haven't brought this game yet but i also remember the cold war shotguns having a delay between hipfire and ads to avoid people from quicksoping with the pump shotguns. You would have to ads for a few miliseconds before the bullets get tighter. And even xclusive ace in this video tries to quick scope sometimes so maybe that also plays into fact here.
@Honeneko.
@Honeneko. 3 дня назад
Thank you for taking some time to upload this. I was getting some bad results in the range for the alt fire. It was allowing me to get one-shots that weren't possible in a match, no matter how tight the spread could get. In the slower fire mode, I have been able to get some ridiculous ranged one-shots.
@TheXclusiveAce
@TheXclusiveAce 3 дня назад
Yeah, I got excited doing some testing in the Firing Range but something is definitely messed up there like stacking hitboxes or something.
@epicgamerzfail4575
@epicgamerzfail4575 3 дня назад
its probably a lot easier to hit targets in the firing range than in real matches, so the consistent one shots make a lot more sense
@BetaBreaking
@BetaBreaking 3 дня назад
​@@TheXclusiveAceI feel like it's bugged somehow. It's so inconsistent in pump mode and useless in semi. Even with 10 pellets I don't feel a difference in how it performs. Just weird all around and disappointing as a shotgun user
@Adderflail
@Adderflail 3 дня назад
The gun has upper body damage multipliers, so you need to aim for the chest for consistency. It has the downsides of using a slug but with the spread of a normal shotgun.
@emwols
@emwols 3 дня назад
Ding ding ding ding. It’s a sniper shotgun
@Naksiio
@Naksiio 2 дня назад
Hello, You have to help me please, I don't have the pump, can you give me the zombie part so I can have it please?
@emwols
@emwols 3 дня назад
One thing I think you forgot to mention is that you have to hit the upper torso to maximize its one shot kill potential! If you hit the torso past close range it gives a hit marker
@Naksiio
@Naksiio 2 дня назад
Hello, You have to help me please, I don't have the pump, can you give me the zombie part so I can have it please?
@oscarfunez3806
@oscarfunez3806 3 дня назад
Not going to lie, but dragons breathe in pump mode and feel more consistent in hitting the oneshot afterburn(Initial hit then dying by burning damage). Making the spread tight for hip and tac-stance definitely helps in close quarters to get the kill. Using semi basically makes it pointless to use as the burn damage will do literally nothing to help you. Since its a shotgun i just use it for close quarters and it feels more consistent with using the dragons breathe and keeping my spreads tight to ensure i hit my shots and let the DOT do the rest.
@the_lifeoftimbo
@the_lifeoftimbo 3 дня назад
They need to buff the damage of the pellets so the gun could have more *consistency* in its maximum damage ranges. Too many times you’ll get the random hit marker that doesn’t do no damage to your enemy up close and it’ll just get u killed
@DeathJr96R
@DeathJr96R 3 дня назад
I found that so long as you stick to using it in pump action mode and only, put the long barrel on, the best choke, and use the best ADS speed attachments for the other 3 slots, it's pretty strong and fast.
@Naksiio
@Naksiio 2 дня назад
Hello, You have to help me please, I don't have the pump, can you give me the zombie part so I can have it please?
@helix4267
@helix4267 3 дня назад
I wish they made the ammo types usable, the idea of having specialized shells in your shotgun is super cool, it just sucks that they all cut the guns performance in half
@Naksiio
@Naksiio 2 дня назад
Hello, You have to help me please, I don't have the pump, can you give me the zombie part so I can have it please?
@CumeronThomas
@CumeronThomas 3 дня назад
I wish they added speed loaders or quad loading to shotguns. I love pump shotguns but hate the reload times.
@gamerguy425
@gamerguy425 День назад
if any warzone-only players want to unlock this YOU CAN USE THE JAK JAWBREAKER KIT and it will count towards the unlock challenges! It's also a ridiculous loophole to get the KV platinum if you've gotten it gold. I got like 4 longshots in one match of resurgence....
@milkj.
@milkj. 3 дня назад
don't worry everyone i know it's inconsistent now but don't worry they'll give it a buff when they reveal the Terminator™️ Sarah Connor Bundle (for only 4200 COD points), i'm pretty sure it will be just coincidental though.
@markpangilinan7770
@markpangilinan7770 3 дня назад
There are mixed feelings when it comes to the new Reclaimer 18 shotgun. It does have a decent one hit kill range up to 16.5 meters but sometimes at point blank range, it doesn’t perform too well and it’s hit marker after hit marker. In my opinion, it’s just a fan favorite shotgun that people will enjoy every now and then, which will remember from previous CODs.
@sIayerz
@sIayerz 3 дня назад
Im glad they didnt add another OP one shot weapon tbh. It might need a slight buff though.
@25_Cats_in_a_Trenchcoat
@25_Cats_in_a_Trenchcoat 3 дня назад
Great vid as always
@leonsk1787
@leonsk1787 3 дня назад
Why do cod devs hate shotguns? They have no issue with ohk snipers at any range yet fear a shotgun having a constant ohk within shotgun ranges. They really need to buff this gun, let shotguns be good again, and not outclassed by snipers in close quarters.
@StyxYRenegade
@StyxYRenegade 3 дня назад
I haven’t seen a 19m OHK kill with shotgun shells ever since the M30 Drilling
@T0anto
@T0anto 3 дня назад
> Completely forgets about MW2019 Don't blame ya, christ that MP is unbearable to play nowadays
@Chanman886sGaming
@Chanman886sGaming 3 дня назад
I agree with you I was struggling with this shotgun, like you mentioned it is inconsistent especially on pump action. I will give the tac stance a try to see if that helps a bit.
@SeriousApache
@SeriousApache 18 часов назад
Let's just talk about slugs: yes, they technically has worse one shot kill potential then default ammo, but what i noticed, default ammo is very unreliable with one-shot kill. Slugs are just very consistent, you get one shot kill without any RNG, and then 2 shot kill at any range.
@AliFOJ5
@AliFOJ5 3 дня назад
I never thought I’ll meet the grandfather of hit markers. I did with this shotgun
@legendofLINK445
@legendofLINK445 3 дня назад
There’s a new underbarrel that improves hip fire and tac stance. I forgot what it’s called, but it’s right before the vertical grips.
@chuteu260
@chuteu260 3 дня назад
I didn’t know there was a difference in the 2 different modes, thx for that
@krustybeans1160
@krustybeans1160 3 дня назад
I hope they take this on-the-fly change mechanic and apply it to the BAL AMP if it ever gets one, high fire rate (Inferno), slower fire rate then the base (Obsidian Steed)
@brziperiod
@brziperiod 3 дня назад
Blud just triggered so much PTSD lol
@austinjordan8308
@austinjordan8308 3 дня назад
I love it when theres actual differences between fire modes. I love the FTAC Recon since its so versatile, and no the M4 AMP is not even close to the same thing
@alext.7517
@alext.7517 3 дня назад
I’ve noticed with the no stock attachment it feels like jumping is farther and you can change directions in mid air
@DoctorSoupp
@DoctorSoupp 3 дня назад
At least they broke the cycle of "introducing a new weapon and having it be borderline broken for a month."
@Pryingit
@Pryingit 3 дня назад
Ya instead they introduced a new weapon that's borderline unusable
@Texarmageddon
@Texarmageddon 3 дня назад
They broke that with the taq evolvere
@sunderwire
@sunderwire 2 дня назад
Bal 27 was kinda bad too
@Lord--Farquaad
@Lord--Farquaad 3 дня назад
This is one of the weirdest, most frustrating guns I think I've ever used. It's literally a guessing game if you can get a OSK or just a hitmarker. You can one tap someone 15 meters away, turn a corner and get a hitmarker from point blank range. Never touching this again unless they change/fix it.
@dr_zephyr
@dr_zephyr 3 дня назад
the hipfire spread can be tuned so tightly in the semi auto mode you’re able to 2 shot out to about 20-25m since all the pellets are in such a tight spread
@toxicdragon323
@toxicdragon323 2 дня назад
I see. That explains why I've seen a lot of people using this in hardcore. I can imagine how much of a headache it is to use this thing in core game modes.
@jimbozini100
@jimbozini100 3 дня назад
Idk why they're so scared of making slugs not ass considering the kar98 and other one shot weapons.
@spooks4771
@spooks4771 2 дня назад
In Hardcore this gun is absolutely freakin wild. I get insane one shot kills down the entire lane while hip firing on shipment. Legitimately, it will kill people with one shot, in semi, on the other side of shipmen while hip firing. Absolutely insane. I dropped a 70 kill game on domination and I NEVER do that good.
@alext.7517
@alext.7517 3 дня назад
Love the spas
@jeremiahtaylor1817
@jeremiahtaylor1817 3 дня назад
They should up the pellet count to 9 at least if they don’t buff the damage
@DJAK792
@DJAK792 3 дня назад
I haven’t used this thing yet but it’s already my favorite gun since 2018
@sunderwire
@sunderwire 2 дня назад
I was hyped for this gun to come out but its super disappointing with how bad it is :/
@famalam943
@famalam943 3 дня назад
It feels incredibly inconsistent. Sometimes I’ve needed 4 shots to kill at ranges that could easily be 1HK. It’s pretty terrible.
@lynch6425
@lynch6425 2 дня назад
Thank you
@zffrailgun1630
@zffrailgun1630 3 дня назад
Fyi Ace, the no stock attachment looks much worse in the firing range than it does in-game (somehow). I still wouldn't use it because it covers a good chunk of your screen, but it's nowhere near as bad as what the firing range shows.
@Vinseenit
@Vinseenit 3 дня назад
Why didn't you talk about the damage multipliers with this gun? If you look at the detailed stats, the upper torso and headshot damage is significantly higher than the rest of the body. If you want to get more consistent one shot kills, aim for upper chest instead of center mass like you would with most other shotguns.
@rock-steady-yeti
@rock-steady-yeti 3 дня назад
Ace, you might have covered this in another video, what is the S2F if you have the no tac sprint boots?
@25_Cats_in_a_Trenchcoat
@25_Cats_in_a_Trenchcoat 3 дня назад
I agree super inconsistent. Semi auto is a monster in hardcore though
@meanmrmustard270
@meanmrmustard270 3 дня назад
I was going to say...in hardcore semi-auto had me get a new PR with those one shot kills
@Calma123_
@Calma123_ 3 дня назад
hardcore lol, try using it in normal ffa
@25_Cats_in_a_Trenchcoat
@25_Cats_in_a_Trenchcoat 3 дня назад
@@Calma123_ I'm running just a sledgehammer in ffa and bringing down the house
@Calma123_
@Calma123_ 3 дня назад
@@25_Cats_in_a_Trenchcoat yh a bot lobby in das haus
@meanmrmustard270
@meanmrmustard270 3 дня назад
@@Calma123_ nah
@SquashyButton
@SquashyButton 3 дня назад
From my experience, this shotgun is best used in tac stance while in pump action, makes it feel pretty decent.
@seanmccrindle1861
@seanmccrindle1861 3 дня назад
I play HC mainly and it’s super solid!
@larrywonnacott2628
@larrywonnacott2628 3 дня назад
Great Vid 👍 Mahalo
@destonshaber3744
@destonshaber3744 3 дня назад
This thing feels more inconsistent than the Lockwood 680 does, and that's with all of the attachments that boosts it's range and its pellet spread
@player_iii
@player_iii 3 дня назад
Personally I've found this gun is much better when I put a reflex sight on it. The power of the gun comes from high risk high reward at medium range, so attachments that make it easier to use feel like they help more than attachments that strictly improve its stats. Using a barrel is mandatory though.
@Seeker9904
@Seeker9904 3 дня назад
Never thought I'd have to say this, but this shotgun is in dire need for a buff
@kingcrimson9171
@kingcrimson9171 3 дня назад
they gave it the same bug from the 680 where the capacity = pellets fired lmao
@Jaryn_Bibb
@Jaryn_Bibb 3 дня назад
I remember when the Center Mass Grip Tape had an absurd sprint to fire reduction to the point where if combined with the right attachments, it has a 1ms sprint to fire time. But SHG fixed this within a few hours after it being out.
@NeightrixPrime
@NeightrixPrime 3 дня назад
I'll call it the AN-94 of shotguns. If you're on, it's arguably the best gun. If you're slightly off, it's absolutely terrible.
@Uladzya
@Uladzya 3 дня назад
I always hate the fact in CoD series shotguns depends so heavily on the random. That's just frustrating and not fun at all. On high-fire-rate shotguns this isn't a serious problem, but pump-action or just shotguns with slow RoF because of this become a whole dissappointment. Just make for them fixed pellet spread at least when you aim down sight and everything will be fine.
@Indacouchh
@Indacouchh 3 дня назад
This thing is so inconsistent. There are times where it feels nasty as hell, and then times where I basically shot them point blank to the chest in pump action and it gets a hit marker. To me there’s no reason to use it over the Lockwood other than nostalgia
@CaptainMunner
@CaptainMunner 3 дня назад
So, I can snipe with this in HC. Great!
@ohnobro3770
@ohnobro3770 2 дня назад
It’s a sniper shotgun if you use it like that and shoot upper chest it one shots like crazy. Then you hipfire point blank die leave the match and close the game.
@leifwulffstephan3725
@leifwulffstephan3725 3 дня назад
Who else prefers golden age cod attachments? One suppressor, not 30 silencers that have tiny stat differences.
@jeremybrown9611
@jeremybrown9611 3 дня назад
Nah I like what they've done with MW3. Previous CoD recently went the quantity over quality route. Having a bunch of useless attachments. They should keep it this way moving forward
@BackupReal
@BackupReal 3 дня назад
That's why advanced stats are available to choose whatever you feel better using. This is only a problem for people who stress about meta, people who play casually, enjoy having options.
@LookItIsHope
@LookItIsHope 3 дня назад
I see what you're trying to say, but I like the flexibility with different versions. Sometimes I want a suppressor that helps with recoil for certain guns that have kick to them so I can lessen that. It's a nice thing to have. Then with a pistol or SMG, maybe having a suppressor that buffs the bullet velocity might be nice considering that's a weak point most times for these weapons. I like to play around with different choices.
@kayagorzan
@kayagorzan 3 дня назад
I like having some options with attachments, but definitely not as many as we have in MWIII rn
@player_iii
@player_iii 3 дня назад
@@kayagorzan yeah even MW 2019 now feels like it gives very little choice compared to now. The aftermarket attachments, actually different muzzles, and good barrels/stocks in MW3 make me feel like SHG really wants to give players a lot of choices and their balance has been screwed by IW's 10,000 redundant attachments that all come with huge sacrifices. I hope SHG can actually manage to successfully get their own development cycle someday instead being thrown around all the time.
@alfredohenry1286
@alfredohenry1286 3 дня назад
It definitely could use a damage buff, feels way too inconsistent wether in semi auto mode or pump action. But idk if they’ll buff it
@TheNikoBellicGaming
@TheNikoBellicGaming 3 дня назад
likely have two shots because for the akimbo aftermarket. What SHG should just make the Half Life 2 shotgun Twinbarrel aftermarket part called JAK Messa which would allow the operator to switch between Single and Double shot with a flip of the switch
@Chrisspycross
@Chrisspycross День назад
The Haymaker with Aftermarket kit was one of the few fun guns out there. Until it got nerfed to the ground. Now, no shotgun stand a chance against other weapons. Anyway I still have an epic Riveter setup that no one talks about, literally 2 shot almost any range, (0)zero!!! spread, yet still not as fun as melt ppl with the Haymaker 😎🤙
@gcw2830
@gcw2830 2 дня назад
Hello, hardcore mode? I'm seeing this thing dominate in hardcore. What are the stats for hardcore.
@zereftribbiani8130
@zereftribbiani8130 13 часов назад
I don't suggest the discouraged barrel at all. I tried shooting the closest dummy at the same spot in the training range 10 times each with and without the barrel. I got a 1 shot kill 9 times without the barrel and a 1 shot kill only once with the barrel. I don't know why that's the case but no barrel is far far more consistent Edit: putting the center mass grip also did the same thing, maybe the gun just automatically gets more inconsistent if you add any attachments at all
@TheXclusiveAce
@TheXclusiveAce 12 часов назад
The firing range dummies are completely bugged when it comes to shotguns so they can’t be used to determine strength of builds unfortunately. All of my testing is done on actual characters
@bradenmchenry995
@bradenmchenry995 3 дня назад
The 150hp makes balancing 1 shot kill weapons impossible
@deshawngreer5345
@deshawngreer5345 3 дня назад
Treyarch, I need for y'all to keep shotguns as the meta for BO6 as punishment for Sledgehammer and Infinity Ward glazing Sniper/Marksman Rifles nonstop. Signed, a USAS 12 OG
@knvb10
@knvb10 3 дня назад
That red camo looks so cartoonish, lego-like.
@charlesgreene3413
@charlesgreene3413 3 дня назад
What is the camo he is using for the tac stance build?
@rainmouse2
@rainmouse2 3 дня назад
I don't use shotguns much, are there any worth running in this game?
@doratheexplosion6129
@doratheexplosion6129 3 дня назад
no
@odststalker5117
@odststalker5117 3 дня назад
what even is the point of bolo shells? They only make every shotgun worse
@Ghillie_Beast_yt
@Ghillie_Beast_yt 2 дня назад
Apparently they are adding a conversion kit that lets you dual weald it
@Chorongy-
@Chorongy- 2 дня назад
The semi auto fire rate just needs a nice buff
@befayedocrimes4751
@befayedocrimes4751 3 дня назад
What the hell is the point of Bolo shells? It'd be one thing if they were just bad but I don't even understand the intention behind them
@blackonbothsides2882
@blackonbothsides2882 3 дня назад
its bugged in zombies, it won't kill mercs unless u ADS and shoot them
@coryandrum
@coryandrum 3 дня назад
i was so confused about that semi, kept getting killed by it cause they had the second shot fast and I wasn't close enoughf
@robest1331
@robest1331 2 дня назад
Range on this shotgun is crazy on hardcore
@damascusbruen1033
@damascusbruen1033 3 дня назад
JOSEFINA FLASHBACKS
@leviyoung4548
@leviyoung4548 2 дня назад
Bolo shells in semi auto don't work, it turns into buck in semi, not sure if that's intentional or a bug
@Delta31705
@Delta31705 3 дня назад
I think it’s funny that aiming magically reduces the spread.
@rainiernqc
@rainiernqc 3 дня назад
The numbers are here but when you are playing it feels completely different. Sure, in game we don't get precisely the stats on how you got point or somebody got you but sometimes you feel like you are the best player in world, next round is completely the opposite. And no, let's not start conspiracy theories right now. At least not right now. I think they should bring the consistency for 1 shot kill to pump hip fire and ads to whatever the ranges that they think it's good and the same for 2 shot for the semi-auto. And apply to all the other shotguns
@jimbobsclayworld2439
@jimbobsclayworld2439 День назад
I tried bolo shells in the gunsmith, and was able to 2 shot in tac stance 25+ metres away in semi auto. Have they buffed the bolo shells in semi auto or is this a bug? (Edit: training dummies and private bot matches don’t match up…)
@TheXclusiveAce
@TheXclusiveAce День назад
Firing Range dummies are super bugged when it comes to Shotguns and they don't reflect performance vs actual players at all.
@jimbobsclayworld2439
@jimbobsclayworld2439 День назад
@@TheXclusiveAce Shame really, it would of made semi auto worth using…
@Cookies-uw1wp
@Cookies-uw1wp 3 дня назад
honestly it looks and feels like a reskinned lockwood 680… they didnt give the spas the same treatment as the kar on release
@natourdiales1940
@natourdiales1940 3 дня назад
Snipers being better shotguns than shotguns is crazy
@BetaBreaking
@BetaBreaking 3 дня назад
I feel its inconsistency has to be due to the duel firing modes and the damage values being bugged right? On paper the pump mode should be good but in practice it might as well be 50/50 if you're going to kill an enemy. They've got to rework the entire semi-auto mode as its practically useless. Same for the different ammo types, all of them suck in general. This gun in just needs a rework or to fix whatever bugs that are messing with its consistency. I begrudgingly got Interstellar and One Trick for it but it wasn't fun. I'm now dreading the grind for Obsidian :(
@JCastleJ
@JCastleJ 3 дня назад
So afraid of making another broken shotgun like the jak wardens but will make broken snipers left and right and not nerf them no matter what 😂
@angellburgos9591
@angellburgos9591 3 дня назад
Pump Action is good but when I gonna see a great slug shotgun build or a new shotgun that really kills hard in 20 to 30 meters 🤷🏻‍♂️
@FATCHQDE
@FATCHQDE 3 дня назад
It can be good if your really switched on, I had a rust and meat game where I got 70+ kills with it and it felt great but ive also used it when I was less invested in the game and it felt hopeless, you really got be accurate, same experiance in warzone, had some moments where it was super clutch and I won fights against good players I in no way would ever have won in one vs teo scenarios, but ive also had plenty of times where I was just outside of its range and its gotten me killed. Feels like a gun you can force to work but it wont come easy in warzone at least, it does feel good tho two pumping people.
@theFORZA66
@theFORZA66 3 дня назад
M1014 is still king 🤴 semi auto with consistent one shots
@AylanAlmuhairi
@AylanAlmuhairi 3 дня назад
bolo shots for me turn to normal buck shots is the a glitch?
@jamesandrews484
@jamesandrews484 3 дня назад
what is the "add" part in reload add time?
@GeneralBogRoll
@GeneralBogRoll 3 дня назад
I actually really like this shotgun in hardcore in semi auto mode
@Calma123_
@Calma123_ 3 дня назад
try using it in ffa, guaranteed you wont touch it again
@dmann5938
@dmann5938 3 дня назад
It is very inconsistent when I’m using it tbh
@Calma123_
@Calma123_ 3 дня назад
its garbage, shg are just scared for the cry babies that it becomes "op"
@jeremybrown9611
@jeremybrown9611 3 дня назад
It's inconsistent so I see a buff coming. Also CW SPAS was butta
@SKRWildfire
@SKRWildfire 3 дня назад
To be fair that was also the spas in mw2 original lol. Sometimes you think why did i get a hitmarker at like point black. But i get a goddamn 1hit kill from 15 meters away in the next kill. Soooo its a lot the same
@RipVanWinkle-zm7vs
@RipVanWinkle-zm7vs 3 дня назад
Hell no. Every shotgun in MW2 destroys MWIII any day, the MW2 SPAS was better using ADS but at least you would get consistent one shots at close ranges. With this thing you can't even hip fire, you are guaranteed 2 shots or more
@MavicAVF
@MavicAVF 3 дня назад
This gun just feels weird, I felt like the Lockwood 680 was so much better any time I used it
@simonkammeyer4334
@simonkammeyer4334 2 дня назад
So which is better? 680 or spas? I cant tell.
@TheXclusiveAce
@TheXclusiveAce 2 дня назад
The 680 is much more consistent but the spas has much better one shot kill potential with a perfect shot.
@simonkammeyer4334
@simonkammeyer4334 День назад
@@TheXclusiveAce thanks ACE!
@raikoh05
@raikoh05 3 дня назад
they have made a few different spas12s in cod (mw2, blops1, etc) so I dont get the issue.
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