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The price changed in my area around 2013. Flipside to them is, when bill ruger was alive, we couldnt get anything over 5 rounds. Ive bought a few 20 rounders and now, flawless. Never jam magick. If the mini were the bad ass in hollywood, no one would care about the price. Use to be, a good AR was the high buy in.
@@DesertRat.45 i don't know about ( no one) caring about the price. I have all ways tried to be practical ( cheap) And for me Hollywood has nothing to do with any gun I choose to use. I sold my min's when they got to 2x what I payed for them. And the only reason 3 that I have a ar. 1 was trained on them at the states expense and have the muscle memory 2 the government decided we didn't need them 3 buying a upper in different calibers is a relatively cheap way to try new cartridges on deer and hogs.
I am calling BS. Blind is right. You are comparing an older 180 series rifle. Look at the newer 580 series rifles. Most of the issues you are listing have been addressed and have been for years. The big plus is the piston which means the rifle runs a lot cleaner. Night gear, red dots and scopes are very mountable. It was quite easy to mount pic rails on my plastic stock and my barrel is threaded. There are several forward rails available that replace the front cover. Mine is carrying a 1-4x24 illuminated LPVO. on Ruger rings that fit the built in Ruger mounts. The newer Minni's come with an accessory over action pic rail. I also have an AR and the main difference is ergonomics. For many the AR is more useable because of the adjustable stock. My wife is small and can shoot an AR while she can't shoot a Minni because of the LOP.
Still one of my favourite gats. The one great thing about the mini14 is what it's not. It's not a scary black rifle so even in a place as firearm illiterate, like where I live, old biddy's don't lose their sh1t because they see someone putting a rifle into the boot (trunk) of their car.
Just one question I have several black rifle and as of four or so weeks ago I own a mini14. But not one of these black rifles or shotguns has scared me from day one of ownership nor did they scare any of my friends so just what constitutes a scary gun?
The min-14 has the ability to attach stuff to it just like tge a1 and a2 had. Its called black tape. It worked. Was it the best no. But it worked. But hell my main use ar doesn't have a rail on it . And i dont want one.
I personally do not advocate for a receiver mounted optic. Its not likely but ejected brass can sometimes hit your scope and i had an instance where the case bounced back into the action as it closed and caused a jam. Samson rail for forward mounted optics is ideal. Its a very robust system but ill suited for cold, AKs are better in Winter. Nothing is self cleaning- the gas port on a 14 needs attention occasionally, cleaning with solvent and checking for corrosion. Biggest complaint on the Mini-14, besides lack of modularity-is POI drift when the barrel heats up. This can be dealt with the Accurizer system or a heat sink barrel shroud.
The mags that would work in both the Mini-14 and AR-15 were made by Ramline and haven't been produced since the 80's. It's a shame Ruger and Magpul won't get together and make mags for the Mini.
Samson manufacturing got thermold mini 14 mags back in production they also changed the dimensions and spring weight slightly so they don’t need fitting to run 11$ too
By the standards you laid out in this video, several firearms are obsolete. The Beretta 92fs The M16 The AK47 & 74 The M1 Carbine The M14/M1A The M60 The Browning Hi-Power Any non semi-auto shotgun The Mini-14 isn't obsolete. The word you were looking for is Inferior. It certainly is Inferior to a modern AR-15. However, if the Mini-14 had been adopted by the military we would probably have seen several improvements made to it over a 60 year service life along with everyone with a cnc machine making the Mini-14 the same way they do ARs today.
Nope, the Mini14 will never be "obsolete" Same caliber, same capacity, same ability for optics, you may have to try harder but same! I enjoy the recoil impulse more than the AR. I think it's my favorite centerfire, with the only issue being a slight difference in accuracy, and it's really not much!
In some ways, mini 14 is better than ar15. Let me explain. It fires semi auto, just like a ar15 but, it looks less scary to liberals. It could pass for grand dad's huntinting rifle with a low profile mag. That's more my style..low profile but lethal.
Everybody talks down the Mini, until it falls off their boat. Must be really bad I guess. 1-2 moa without stoppages is not acceptable? Optics?? Get a ranch. With a normal mount, I never saw a failure to throw brass out, and clear. I think a lot of detractors arguments are straw men. (straw men on fire) Please consider the no rail argument. What rail do you have on an M2 Ar? Hearing "they have an adapter, leatherwood, etc. doesn't sound like an stock available solution either. Thanks for considering these arguments. Light reticle scope and lights happen easily on a ranch mini. Too bad about the boating thing.
The problem was not the ones 2-4 moa. The problem was every once in awhile you would get one that was 8-20 moa. And you never knew what one it was until it was bought. I have seen them that officer could not qualify with. And the instructor could not qualify with. Put in a old ransomrest it could not reliably hit a b56 police qualifying target. Thats the problem with the old ones. Because they get sold and around and around that one goes.
I have a Mini 14 Ruger Ranch (2009) I like to convert it back and forth from Factory stock to My Samson A-team stock. But with that said I think it's still viable for states that can't own An AR15 or an Ak. You can add a scout pic rail for optics and a light. It's a great rifle for what it is. It's not my first choice for war. But as far as protecting your home are a vermin/hunting rifle I think it does great.
I would say that the operational system is a close copy of the M1/M14, meaning it is a self-cleaning action, it will shuck a fair amount of dirt and small debris as the AR platform typically wont. Obsolete stands for classically effective in my book, just sayin.
The ranch model and i think all of the post Bill Ruger death models have Ruger’s Proprietary scope mounts. I think the new ones ship with a set or rings. Warne makes scope rings for Rugers.
Gotya. I didnt properly hear the part of the ar/14 hybrid mags. In that case, you are correct. I still have 4 ramline mags. In my experience, they were the only ones that were jam free in the mini. When polymer hit the market in the 90's most people didnt trust it. When the zytel stocks came on the scene, all a seller had to do was write tactical on the price tag and it sold. @@theblindsniper9130
Obsolete would mean that it had a standing to begin with. It has never been anything but the little sister of America's last battle rifle. .223/ 5.56 was Europe's round not America's. Thanks NATO.
This is not a apple to apple review. The 580 series is more accurate, easy to mount a lpvo. Rails are available for weapon lights , IR lasers and etc. To be fair AR’s are way easier when it comes IR lasers. In many ways mini’s are as flexible as AK’s.
@@theblindsniper9130 But yet the same system was used in WWII, Korean War, Vietnam, Rhodesian Bush Wars, two Oil wars, and the Paris Terrorist attacks. But when the M16 was introduced in the Vietnam war... well, I think we all know how that went. Your fear makes you look ignorant.
The Mini 14 may or may not be 'obsolete' in the strict sense, but it is somewhat 'out of style'. It doesn't have a separate hand grip (like the AR series) and it looks like an 'old fashioned' rifle with a wood stock. I'm not crazy out them due to the rather wimpy cartridge.
@@DANMOTYL In point of fact, I'm not impressed by either variation of the cartridge, Even if it's called the .22 Loudenbarker. Just the Ruger rifle looks more like a rifle than a ray gun.
I love and have almost bought a Mini14 "mini" times, but it not using AR mags aways stopped me. Why Ruger never switched I don't understand. People can slur the Mini14 and the M14 all they want, but I'd go to battle with either. RockOn.StayFree.
