Is the Soul Hackers 2 DLC Any Good? 

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That hurdle of having to get the free dlc to unlock 'very hard' mode is most likely a tactic to get people onto the storepage and expose them to the other priced dlc. To entice them to buy one of or all the other dlc. I do not see any other reason for this seeing as they have the capacity to just patch it into the game or simply have it be ready at launch.

Man, seeing Atlus go down this path hurts a little worse than other companies.

The free dlc is specifically there just to take you the storefront and climatize you as the user to what it looks like. And basically its a "walkthrough" of buying the DLC, paving that pathway in your brain so you can shorten the time between impulse and analysis.

I'm fine with cosmetics and music DLC (even tho I would prefer for costumes to be unlocked by playing), but story/characters/demons being locked behind them is a huge pain in the ass. I think Atlus is testing the stage to what they can get away with in terms of DLC, they are pushing more and more, until we say "thats enought" and thats where they will set their bar. We can expect similar DLC pratices in all future games.

Ringo being the only one that runs around in the dungeons is probably the *reason* why Atlus didn’t bother with the costumes. Apathy.

I hate DLC structures like this in general. DLC should only be for legitimate game expansions like the story stuff, and should most definitely not be day 1 DLC. Games should be going on the shelf in a complete state, with expansions coming later. Day 1 DLC is fine for cosmetics etc, that don't actually impact gameplay and it doesn't negatively impact the player to not buy them. Holding back parts of a game to sell them separately **ON LAUNCH DAY ESPECIALLY** is an absolutely cancerous and anti-consumer practice that should not be supported in any way.

i really miss the times where we could get a costume or bgm by completing an achievement or doing an easter egg

Best title and thumbnail duo I seen yet

Even the $13 for costumes was a stretch. Everything beyond that is an insult, especially considering this is day 1 DLC. Puts me off of buying the whole damn game, honestly.

“Lemon-Lime edition.” I almost spit out my drink. Ahhhh my sides. 😭

Atlus has ALWAYS had this issue.Smt iv had the archangels locked behind a paywall,a booster dlc,and 2 random boss battles that had zero significance or justification for buying them. Hell persona 5 alone had enough payed dlc that you can buy another triple A game with the amount they wanted you to spend on it.

It’s crazy to think that if this game had been ‘complete’ at launch and included the costumes as hidden items, included the dlc quest in the base game…it would have likely gotten better reviews and just sold more copies. Altus really does dlc poorly and has for a while now, and it’s a shame. They have fans who really care about their ip hand they milk them rather than take care of them. I mean, I’ve loved smt for years and years but day 1 dlc really pisses me off

Won't lie was looking forward to playing soul hackers 2 when I heard about it. Unfortunately the paid day one dlc is a deal breaker for me, I wouldn't feel right supporting the practice.

When will Atlus stop with this day 1 dlc bs they expect someone to buy a game seeing $56 worth of dlc content on day 1? That’s damn near how much full price games used to be…

Hopefully they'll learn from this and stop locking content behind paywalls AT LAUNCH

i just have one word for these types of consumer exploytation: AHOY!!!!!

This video eliminated any regrets I might've had about not buying the DLC. I'll just play the game as is, this isn't worth the money, like you said.

This DLC really kinda turns me away from the game sadly. Cant get stuff unless I buy the digital premium edition? Thats some Koei Techmo bs. They dropped the ball with this game so I'm gonna wait for a nice sale on the PS4 physical. I want PC but I hate dealing with Denuvo.

You know Atlus fucked up when you can make an entire ten-minute video to elaborate on a single word.

This is pretty standard now with Atlus campaign of burning bridges while milking the success of other entries/spinoffs and making you pay for it. Was thinking we'd get an SMTV BGM/costume set. Least we got Raidou.

I'm a simple man I see Nemissa in the thumbnail I click

Since the 3ds eShop will be eventually close forever I would be great to know about the DLCs in those SMT games as well

I'm just waiting for the game to get cracked cuz i ain't buying all of this shit

Wait what?! Nemissa isn’t even in the game itself? No side mission for her, even if she’s from the same series? Jesus Atlus.

"Can modders add in the same content as your DLC?" If the answer to this question is yes, you aren't doing DLC right. Vanity changes and background music isn't worth money, it should be part of the game. Remember when games made you earn costumes through in-game challenges, making it more worthwhile to play the game beyond the main quest? I sure do, but it seems like almost no game devs remember that. As for BGM, you can just turn the game volume off and play tracks on your phone if you want different music.

I’ll buy Soul Hackers 2 when it’s around the $20 range.

Atlus day 1 DLC be like: 20 Dollars for 9 Demons 😰

I find it weird that there isn't smt v outfits, party members in Tokusatsu costumes would make me buy the dlc lmao

Bruh atlus has been really disappointing with the non persona releases and it’s actually getting annoying it’s annoying how they’re just putting all their efforts into persona while having this devil may care attitude about everything else

If the game underperforms tell Atlus and Sega it's because of the DLC. Even if that's not accurate it might be the best way to convince them to knock it off already.

ATLUS really has to give the "mysterious new girl" thing a rest like yeah sometimes it works like Sumire in Persona 5 Royal or Rin in Catherine Full Body but Marie in Persona 4 Golden and Nana in Soul Hackers 2 both just get stapled into narratives they don't fit into and end up feeling tact on So like the trope needs to either become consistent or stop being done

It's a shame ATLUS treated this game badly with regards to DLC. One reason I'm hoping it comes to Switch later on is so that the Switch port could include some of this DLC on cart. At the very least the bonus story with Nana should be included on cart in such a port.

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At this point, my only solace is that Etrian Odyssey managed to be (mostly) spared from this increasingly-worsening DLC practice. They did try to make boss DLC in the Untold 2 remake, but dropped the idea for all future games. Well... pay-to-win DLCs did stayed sadly...

The demon dlc pisses me off. These are included in every game and now we have to pay $13? Bruh moment. Locking the phantom thieves outfit behind the digital edition really pissed me off tho ngl the Ringo joker looks fire

4:39 And you can do that too in Persona 4 Golden. I really don't understand why they made it like that here.

Remember when we had costumes to buy in game with in game money in persona 4 golden? I member…

love the mouse cursor in the footage

Honestly what baffles me the most is that the Phantom Thieves costume is pre-order *locked*. Not pre-order "exclusive" like a lot of other games do their pre-order material, where it just kinda is the deluxe edition, you just got it at a cheaper price. No it's straight up *locked*. As in, unless you fuck with Steamworks, you can't get these costumes anymore. The only real consolation from what I can find is that it's not DLC _content_ but instead is merely a Steamworks license check (similar to Paradox-style DLC) so it's not a permanent disaster from a preservation perspective. Even so, this sort of DLC practice fell out of favor years ago after GameStop preorders were met with so much backlash for a reason. The only ones that get away with it these days are MMOs and Live Services and Soul Hackers 2 is neither of those.

Saving $0.97 on the DLC bundle is better than in the UK, where buying the DLC separate is £1 cheaper than the bundle because of course it is.

Damn, and I really wanted that maid outfit. I'm starting to get a bit nervous for Persona 6.

All those costumes and not a single Demonica suit!!!

heard the Costume packs are only worn during battle and not in the open world, which also sucks

i cant get over lemon lime edition that is the most perfect name for a P5 royal counter part for Soul hackers 2

Yep that's what I feared. Im just going to wait until the price drop. I just started SMT 3 and its been a blast.

Short answer: No. Long answer: FUCK NO. Longer answer: NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

I agree about the "new" demons "Saladin", "Nobunaga" And "Jean D Arc".

The only Demon that would be unique to use is Nemisa in that DLC. Definitely not worth 13 bucks.

"Marie was handled better" Lol Lmao

Just so people know the Steam version of the game is on sale on Fanatical for 20% off, and an additional 5% off until September 6th. Which makes me a bit tempted to go for the premium version as it then becomes about $60... and I kinda want Nemissa... idk... might wait until last minute myself to see how I really feel.

Went on the psn store to pre order a while back and saw that the $90 version had story dlc that the $60 dollar version didn't have and backed out of the store

3:53 "how about some devil summoner 1 costumes?" While showing Rei's outfit

I was thinking of getting the DLC but once I found out that you can only see them in battle I decided not to. That is so stupid, why not give option to see Ringo in different outfits while I walk around?

i like akechi with a tommy gun

i'm so glad i decided to skip this game. i was literally a few seconds away from downloading the Digital Premium edition for $90, but my gut feeling pushed me to double check the commentary online. and yeah, it's not worth it.

8:02 Oh thank you for that, some youtubers don't do that

I only buy physical games so content being locked behind digital purchase is such a huge turnoff for me

Ngl seeing that Raidou Kuzunoha outfit almost made me buy the dlc. Hate these practices.

I wouldn't mind the costume DLC if the whole feature wasn't purely DLC. P4: Golden had it right with the wide array of quests to complete and Atlus basically said "never again."

Does anyone know If we will be able to buy the phantom thieves outfits? I got scammed by the website I bought the Game at... Well, not exactly that, but the day the game was released got Everything besides the pre order bonuses, which is frustrating (I pre ordered the game on that website, well, a key for steam)

It's DLC practices like this that turn a game I might have picked up on Sale, cause Money's fairly tight atm into an apathetic sigh and probably not going to bother even if it's on Sale decision.

Atlus day 1 DLC is pretty much guaranteed to be bad unless it's actually good content that they blatantly cut from the game (like the SMTV fiend DLC), which in a way makes it even more painful.

This disrespect for p1 and p2 is getting old now.

I beat Lost Numbers final boss on recommended level. After two sidequests and some party optimisation it's hard but doable.

Well... at least its nice of Atlus to bundle the booster item DLC and the extra story DLC in the deluxe edition, which is what i got. Dunno if it's regional pricing or something but buying the deluxe edition was cheaper than buying base game + story arc DLC. I tried the booster items and thought it was broken af, so i disabled it in the config. But looks like i might need it by the end of the story arc DLC.

Something else I hate is that Ai-Ho and the Mary skin are locked behind the digital ultimate edition and the Phantom Thieves skins were pre-order only but only certain versions. I got the collector's edition (which I have to wait a month for the contents of) and it comes with none of the DLC, not even the Phantom Thieves preorder stuff. If I want to have all the content I have to pay an extra $40 and since there's no upgrade pack or separate DLC I'd have to spend another $90 for Ai-Ho and Mary's skin then hope someone has a spare code for the Phantom Thieves skins. It's genuinely insane how greedy and poorly handled this is.

Seriously, my relationship with Atlus and their games have been seriously strained in recent years. It feels like that ever since SMTIV it has been a slow and creeping decent as the series identity and integrity erodes away, SH2 just being the latest example of this. Meanwhile, toxic business decisions make an already bad situation worse, further disincentivizing me to get invested in any way.

I think Atlus is running out of ideas or think they can apply the same ones to every title. Dropping SMT from Persona may have worked, but it just seems lazy they thought they could do the same thing to every other offshoot. Utter bullocks they did story DLC, that is the crap you drop a developer/publisher for flat. To deliver what seems to be a mediocre product in different areas and the amount of money they want you to drop on it doesn't correlate. Could've done better for an outing with their second female MC (Maya was first), but I think they counted on stylization and consumer fans to carry the day.

Wait, fucking MASAKADO, SATAN, AND MARA ARE DLC? I can get Nemissa being DLC, she's literally a cameo from a previous game, and even looks the same, but those three are fucking iconic!

I do like the swimsuit costumes. And the weird loop it does trying to zoom at ringo's panties is appreciated to some extend..... but its a lil bit expensive yes

First of all, thank you for telling me about the smt4 difficulty dlc. I need to download that before the eshop vanishes. I still don't know how I feel about the costumes dlc. For me, that is way too expensive, but at the same time, I wouldn't buy it anyway and it's just cosmetics. If they charged $100 for it, it still wouldn't affect me in any way and my experience of the game would be unchanged and I wouldn't feel like I missed out on anything.

I for the life of me will not understand why the only atlus game I ever enjoyed was persona 3 portable

Earlier this year I saw a heavily discounted game on steam but the DLC were almost full price so I started to buy games without any DLC at all, just the base game and thats it, it actually doesn't make that much of a difference tbh and I saved a lot of money...

2:20 That's the point, It makes easier to force consumers to buy It now or have to pay for a re-release that will be more expensive than the OG. The fact that is DLC doesn't make It less of a bitch move.

i was hoping with the demon dlc before I saw it that it was like P5 where they were altered versions of demons form past games, not copies like this. ig with that it was about persona so prob wouldn't have seen them here but would have been cool

Seems like atlus efforts only go to persona nowadays.

What makes it worse is that they put demons behind a paywall that normally were in the base game of past Atlus games like Mara and Satan. Add on top of that story DLC being day one as well, Atlus is clearly being very predatory with their DLC practices. A good example of a good way to do DLC is Xenoblade Chronicles 3, they didn't have a bunch of day one junk launched with the game, they announced an expansion pass with content that will release over the course of the next year (including a meaty story expansion).

Love when i get an ad for a game i already bought XD, anyways living in Mexico game was about 1/2 price+got an xbox store coupon so i bought the deluxe version (includes "Lost Numbers" and Grinding) but the boredom of the dungeons especially Soul Matrix made me shell out for the Costume sets just for the music (have barely used costumes) and in some ways i kind of regret it given the armor items you get can be particularly strong with effects like +Sabbath damage, MP regen on every action and passive Dodge Phys/Gun while improving as you level, i dont use the MP regen and Dodge ones but knowing they exist in my inv kinda corrodes some aspects of the game, ill just say down here the prices are a bit more reasonable for the DLC and if i lived in the US i wouldn't have even bought SH2 (for reference base game only was around 35$ USD equivalent the ultra deluxe with all DLC was 60$, costume DLC was around 6.5$)

When American companies do this shit: Yeah I’m not buying this dumpster fire When Japanese companies do this: Oh GOD HOW FAR WILL YOU TEST ME!

The day came

I got a soul hackers ad when seeing this

I bought the premium version from a keyseller and like 100s of others the dlc doesnt show up in-game. Atlus hasnt fixed this day one error.

How did you get the persona outfits

There really needs to be a toggle for disabling the DLC demons before you reach their level

Here is my thing: I think extra DLC SHOULD exist with all the costumes/EXP boosters/Music/Side junk. BUT AT A FAIR PRICE! Aka a couple of USD AT THE ABSOLUTE MOST for each subject of DLC. Atlus bundled costumes I want with junk I don't and charged silly money. That I have a problem with. My BIG thing is being told I am crappy or wrong for buying something that is perfectly legitimate. Not saying for a moment that's what Nyarly is saying here but I do think folks on YT jump on bandwagons a lot. I am time deficient. I can't see all of the game without help. Gimme some booster items for a dollar. No problem. I like retro SMT: Gimme some costumes of Soul Hackers 1 and Persona 1/2 for a dollar! Happily pay. I like SMT music: Gimme a few tracks of random/obscure SMT stuff. For a dollar. Let me select where the music goes. I am crap at Demon Summoning: Gimme a dozen classy demons I'll never see normally. For a dollar. I wanna carry on playing. I wanna experience more with a certain character: How about a side mission/story beat for a dollar or two? It shouldn't take away from the experience of the main game. Just a nice diversion for folks who want a little more. I don't expect Nyarly or any of the hardcore fraternity to buy this stuff. I don't expect them to even agree with it. But what about the regular folks like me who enjoy the games and perhaps want a specific tailored experience? Can we not have that if we cough up a few dollars? If you all say that DLC is to be outlawed and Atlus agree with you then I can't enjoy the games the same way. Let me guess: Maybe I shouldn't be playing them then? If people like myself don't buy the games you say we shouldn't then nobody wins. Casual gamers exist. I want Atlus to remake Trauma Center before I die. Maybe if they make enough money they might take a shot at it. Maybe my logic is flawed... If I have a few dollars/pounds spare then why not give it a go and see? I love and prefer physical media which is dying. I want ALL the content on ALL of the media. But let's get real: Never going to happen. And that's because folks have decided that REAL things are a burden and digital smoke is much more appealing. Now that's crazy to me. Why pay full price for something that doesn't physically exist and that could potentially be taken away from you if your internet dies or the shop closes? But unfortunately no one makes videos on why physical media should NEVER die. But my opinion SHOULD NEVER stop folks who are all digital from enjoying the content THEIR way. And I should NEVER force my opinion onto others. My logic with DLC or any overpriced niche content or games has always been that if I support the developer/publisher by buying it then maybe they might start making games/remakes of stuff I wanna play in the modern age. Maybe. Let's compromise and say that DLC should be priced much more competitively and offer better choice for the player. The one thing I do hate with a passion is locking certain content behind a specific edition of the game. That's really bad. I think we need choices. But we also need value for money. And we need to stop questioning practices and buying decisions of others we disagree with. You are never going to stop greedy DLC unless you do two things: 1. Stop talkng about it 2. Don't buy it. And remember: 1 is very important. Bad press is still press. Or maybe I'm an idiot. I'll let you decide. Much respect to Nyarly on another great video. Should've said that at the start lol.

I'm curious on how many people actually bought the game let alone the premium edition??

as a person who bought digital premium I hated how the only thing I felt was worth it was booster pack and the side story

God I’d love to see dagda again

5:30, oh god my eyes. Mentions $13 dlc… oh now that’s just disgusting.

Why are extra dificulties coming with day 1 dlc? Like atlus been doing that with most of their games and i dont understand why it isnt just in the game

I dont mind day 1 dlc, but...costumes only showing up in combat? Are we back into the late 90s playing on our psx.

Can't wait for Atlus to remake P3FES and have day 1 dlc that includes the answer 🥳

Thanks for the review, I was considering the story DLC but I’ll skip it.

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Only DLC I bothered checking out was the extra story arc because I'm a sucker for added content. Gotta say I'm glad it's pretty much a complete package without any of it but severely disappointed Nemissa isn't just in the base game as I love throw backs to the older titles. Still easy enough ignored and didn't snag me the same way I jumped on the SMT IV DLC immediately.

Hmm, I might get the extra story DLC when it's on sale and I'm on NG+. Maybe the demons as well. The rest I'll skip.

With SMT V Atlus started to fall off really hard and it's not showing signs of stopping

Honestly I don’t mind the grinding DLC in games because usually once I’ve beaten the game I like to grind my character out to be as strong as possible. SMT IV Apocolypse made this very fun and easy to do, especially considering you can go beyond level 99, and all stats can be increased to 999. SMT V grinding wasn’t as fun because by the end of the true neutral route you’re already around the max level, and from what I remember there was no reliable way to get stat boosting items with the DLC. That was kind of weird IMO, you’re already selling an easy way to level up so why exclude the one thing you want to level up for? This time around it looks pretty promising, grinding in this game really isn’t that bad in the first place, but if I ever want to make my party unstoppable once I’ve beaten everything I’ll pick it up.

Wait, but I got the Phantom thieves outfits in the DLC also?