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@theescapist
@theescapist Год назад
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@wearsjorge55
@wearsjorge55 Год назад
Just watched the metal review and as a metal fan it had me laughing pretty hard. Cookie monster metal screaming was a solid gag
@RpgBlasterRpg
@RpgBlasterRpg Год назад
0:38 SMT 5 PC PORT? WHEN ?!
@xeoverse8770
@xeoverse8770 Год назад
Seriously have you even played Persona 1 or 2? I think if you did you would be in for a rude awakening and have to essentially eat your words about everything you’ve said about the franchise up to this point because it would essentially disprove you thinking that Persona 4 and 5 are essentially everything you think the franchise has been since it’s first entry and thinking those games are representative of the entire series!
@chrisavenell3172
@chrisavenell3172 Год назад
Fun fact the running problem yahtzee experienced is actually tied to frame rate. If you have it set to unlimited it causes the animations to mess up while if you have it set to 60 fps it works normally.
@PendragonDaGreat
@PendragonDaGreat Год назад
uggh tying anything to framerate is one of the worst options these days.
@KelleyEngineering
@KelleyEngineering Год назад
Tying anything to framerate (or processor speed) is a practice I genuinely thought we grew out of in the early '00s when there weren't ~900 hardware options available to consumers.
@Khunkurisu
@Khunkurisu Год назад
@@KelleyEngineering industry standard is to use a fixed time step for physics, but the issue is a lot of these games work on engines that date back to the 90s and just have lots of polish on them to keep them running nicely in modern times. Basically every game you hear about with this framerate issue (or hard capped fps) is using an old engine.
@Slaking_
@Slaking_ Год назад
Why is it always Japanese games that do this? Monster Hunter has a shit ton of problems related to framerates other than 60, too.
@lolcat
@lolcat Год назад
Why even have the option then?
@sameoldsameold9239
@sameoldsameold9239 Год назад
That "yes I will, f*** it" sounded so genuine.
@Pie_The_Man
@Pie_The_Man Год назад
Personally I dont get why he thinks people are twitchy over comparing SH2 to Persona, cuz its obvious the 2 are meant to be similar People don't like comparing Persona with Mainline because it's obvious the 2 are incredibly different, but when in the intro he's able to make a fuck ton of comparisons between Persona and SH2 it's obvious that comparisons are a lot more valid here than in an SMT V review for example
@ForrestFox626
@ForrestFox626 Год назад
@@Pie_The_Man I think comparing Persona and SMT is fine
@Pie_The_Man
@Pie_The_Man Год назад
@@ForrestFox626 in some aspects sure but if you're tryna weigh whether or not Persona's style of story telling is better or worse than SMT's style of story telling it quickly devolves into "I think apples are better than oranges, so oranges should conform to my tastes and be more like apples" Like, I was in a Persona/Megaten discord server and there was this mf tryna criticize Persona for straying away from what it "should have been", saying Persona would be better if it focused around showing how humans react to the threat of demons and the breaking down of society. Basically he wanted Persona to just be Devil Survivor Now this is stupid because that has *never* been what Persona is about. Persona since day 1 has been about exploring the issues of modern youth, most notably mental health and delving into the concepts of jungian psychology You can think Devil Survivor's plot of weighing freedom and order and deciding the fate of humanity is more interesting than that, but to say that Persona would be "better" by dropping what it has been about since day 1 purely because you subjectively prefer something else is immature as shit
@ForrestFox626
@ForrestFox626 Год назад
@@Pie_The_Man Agreed
@dataisstrange5438
@dataisstrange5438 Год назад
Same energy as the "what's a f***ing skal???" from the Vampyr review way back
@carlmai5932
@carlmai5932 Год назад
"Has someone done that joke? Someone must have done that joke." That line compared with the animated facial expressions made me burst out laughing. Thank you.
@SnuSnuDungeon
@SnuSnuDungeon Год назад
Who hasn't had a traumatic experience with a Slurpee machine?
@KelleyEngineering
@KelleyEngineering Год назад
The only 7-11 near me hasn't had the bottle of sour liquid for 3 years now. I have to take my blue-razz Slurpee(R) standard. Like a peasant.
@xxXXRAPXXxx
@xxXXRAPXXxx Год назад
Where is the entrance to snu snu dungeon? I need to find it for reasons.
@TheOtherSavioritis
@TheOtherSavioritis Год назад
"No squeezing the juice!"
@simple-commentator-not-rea7345
My clothes are more traumatized than me, they're the ones getting stains
@WhiteFangofWar
@WhiteFangofWar Год назад
Me. Because I know enough to stay far, far away from those scary things. Also I don't like slurpees.
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
Atlus latest announcement: We're proud to announce we won't be announcing Persona 6 at our own concert event.
@LuffyBlack
@LuffyBlack Год назад
Thanks for buying all the spin ☺️ offs and watching our stage shows we've been developing for some reason. Look forward to Persona 5 Chibi Racing
@ovensmuggler5207
@ovensmuggler5207 Год назад
It's going to be a long while between p5 and 6, hopefully shorter than the gap between 4 and 5 but I'm not getting my hopes up and besides, I got other games to play some of which are smt
@tsukiumika5807
@tsukiumika5807 Год назад
It's weirdly funny that Atlus fans complain whenever reviewers compare all of their works to persona. Yahtzee is the one to say "Well if they don't wanna be compared maybe they should use a different formula"
@-aexc-
@-aexc- Год назад
no one's upset about comparing should hackers to persona only mainline smt. also almost all atlus fans agree that soul hackers 2 is quite shit
@V2ULTRAKill
@V2ULTRAKill Год назад
@@-aexc- no they agree its Fiiiiine Its not smt4 or nocturne But its fiiiiiine
@666fivefork8
@666fivefork8 Год назад
@@-aexc- I don't believe it's possible for most Atlus fans to agree on anything. If there's anything close to a consensus, it seems to be "decent but flawed." It's a 7 that could easily have been an 8.5 with a bit more polish-"shit" implies a score between 0-4, so I think you're being hyperbolic or dishonest.
@Cruddyhorse
@Cruddyhorse Год назад
It's more about people comparing mainline to persona as if Mainline is copying Persona when Persona is the spinoff series. Plenty of dumb people think Persona came first somehow and that's where the annoyance from fans comes from. Although I will agree it feels like the other SMT games are becoming more and more like Persona instead of the more hardcore and edgy dungeon crawlers they used to be.
@christhethinker6791
@christhethinker6791 Год назад
@@-aexc- How Is it shit? The characters and story are great
@ShalathePrinny
@ShalathePrinny Год назад
Asking Yahtzee for opinions on anime games (aka JRPGs) is like asking the fox for it's opinion on the hen house defenses
@Lobster222
@Lobster222 Год назад
In this case the Fox is a pretty well versed in house defenses, and the defense in this case is absolute dogshit.
@greywolf9783
@greywolf9783 Год назад
Shit every. Single. Time.
@greywolf9783
@greywolf9783 Год назад
Just too easy
@user-lh7mt7zo7l
@user-lh7mt7zo7l Год назад
It's like asking dunkey
@Tonius126
@Tonius126 Год назад
What? You can't call out jrpgs for thier overused generic tropes now?
@espio87
@espio87 Год назад
So, to sum it up: If I wanted to play a cyberpunk SMT, I should just play SMT 4.
@Antichthon
@Antichthon Год назад
soul hackers 1 or smt 2 on the snes actually
@Arvoyea
@Arvoyea Год назад
or also the original Soul Hackers
@bonesmcjones8454
@bonesmcjones8454 Год назад
Or even the first Soul Hackers! It even got a remaster on the 3ds a while back so it's pretty easy to emulate!
@shori8438
@shori8438 Год назад
Or SMT 1, or 2... or Soul Hackers 1...
@TailsGuy72
@TailsGuy72 Год назад
Or OG Soul Hackers.
@GrenaGreystone
@GrenaGreystone Год назад
I like the fact that he doesn’t just say what it’s missing in comparison to persona but compares and contrasts them both, that and he actually brings up smt, which is more than most reviewers do
@explainer777
@explainer777 Год назад
Soul Hackers and Persona are uncomparable. They are really different
@Pie_The_Man
@Pie_The_Man Год назад
@@explainer777 Maybe if we were talking about literally any other Devil Summoner game, SH2 is absolutely comparable to Persona
@explainer777
@explainer777 Год назад
@@Pie_The_Man care to elaborate?
@Baba-yv6ml
@Baba-yv6ml Год назад
@@explainer777 Why should he? You didn't lol. Also Yahtzee already did the comparison in the video.
@explainer777
@explainer777 Год назад
@@Baba-yv6ml ok, I will explain a little later, when I will have some free time
@but_in_space_though2919
@but_in_space_though2919 Год назад
Fun fact: Ringo is japanese for "Apple".
@SmileytheSmile
@SmileytheSmile Год назад
Apple trying to help society? I'm starting to get the feeling those games are losing their sense of realism.
@helghast_7203
@helghast_7203 Год назад
PERFECT
@chunkytomatosoup1826
@chunkytomatosoup1826 Год назад
Ringo is English for Ringo Starr fucktwit
@zigslotheon
@zigslotheon Год назад
And the dude’s name is Arrow. Morherfuck-WAS THE WHOLE GAME MADE JUST TO TELL A BAD WILLIAM TELL JOKE?!
@matthewkelly1263
@matthewkelly1263 Год назад
ok move SH2 a bit more over to "reading the bible" end of the scale
@nicklager1666
@nicklager1666 Год назад
I love the slow transformation Of Yahtzee into a anime fan that are crying on promnight when the store is out of cadbury eggs.
@jacktwelve1710
@jacktwelve1710 Год назад
Why would you reference mighty number 9?
@TheShadow7771
@TheShadow7771 Год назад
He's even teetering on the precipice of the Abyss that is vtubers
@drdca8263
@drdca8263 Год назад
What?
@ArcaneAzmadi
@ArcaneAzmadi Год назад
Well he admitted to having been anime fan (albeit a very picky, elitist one) a long time ago, but he does seem to be showing an increasing addiction to Waifus lately.
@cirmothe9
@cirmothe9 Год назад
He's tsuntsun right now but he'll be moemoekyun very soon.
@WhiteFangofWar
@WhiteFangofWar Год назад
The problem is that Altus made its' bestiary of demons by compiling together every mythology and religious figure possible and there's little you can add from there. Occasionally they will come up with some new ones like Krishna, Dagda or Abdiel but most of them will be re-used from previous titles. I do like how they'll occasionally use an urban legend like the Jersey Devil. Maybe Slender Man can join in the next game.
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
It worked for Yomawari. Hanako-san I imagine is a likely candidate.
@mahananka
@mahananka Год назад
I think they should lean into urban legends and internet creepy pastas, especially with a game like Soul Hackers 2 where your already dealing with the internet. If you incorporated an idea of belief affecting the strength of a demon, then something that has fallen out of public saturation could be just made weaker.
@WhiteFangofWar
@WhiteFangofWar Год назад
@@mahananka Sounds a bit like what Persona 2 tried to do where you could deliberately spread rumors to affect certain things. Maybe online you could spread an ad campaign about a demon to temporarily strengthen it.
@DragonHybryd
@DragonHybryd Год назад
That's not true at all, Aztec gods and myths alone is missing a minimum 15 and that's ignoring the rest of the Mezoamerican cultures. Edit: They could easily add more and I guarantee they're missing a ton more from all cultures.
@stuartdunlop8834
@stuartdunlop8834 Год назад
@@mahananka One of the SMT games has a bonus demon based on the chemtrail conspiracy theory, and I'd love to see more stuff ridiculing lunatics today.
@ArchusKanzaki
@ArchusKanzaki Год назад
I'm just fascinated that the more Atlus RPG Yahtzee going through, the more he became a Persona fans. I hope Persona 3 Portable released soon so Yahtzee can have excuse to go through that.
@MFAniki6390
@MFAniki6390 Год назад
Well considering he didn't seem too fond of Persona 4 Golden, I wouldn't get my hopes up for a positive review.
@HolyGoddessMotherAnne
@HolyGoddessMotherAnne Год назад
Persona 3 Portable was alright.
@yallidiotsneedtodrinksomew2937
If he went for the original Persona 3, i think he would hate it.
@lowhp_comic
@lowhp_comic Год назад
I wish he got to play the original FES, Portable suffers visual wise, it just becomes 100% visual novel in the story, rather than a visual novel of sorts but you can see the characters in 3d interacting
@Canadiansamurai
@Canadiansamurai Год назад
I know he's gonna say "Tartarus no not that one" and mention Hades!
@casualbird7671
@casualbird7671 Год назад
Caused quite a laugh when the final gag of the episode continued into the credits
@RacingSnails64
@RacingSnails64 Год назад
"Christ you're predictable!" That whole intro monologue was incredible, Yahtzee's extra testy today lol love it. "Scowling in disdain as it looks up from its Bible." Such a strange yet perfect analogy to convey something is cold and distant. The idea of the Bible being casual reading lmao. "Yeah I'm a New Testament guy. Call me basic but I really love the Book of Matthew."
@repeekyraidcero
@repeekyraidcero Год назад
I bet he comes up with these analogies while showering and or ruminating at night
@motozirillo
@motozirillo Год назад
Can we please a yahtzee squatting over a sprinkler emote?
@Christoph5782
@Christoph5782 Год назад
I found the game quite enjoyable, though who knows how much of that was caused by having played the Saints Row Reboot before starting this game
@MrDevious88
@MrDevious88 Год назад
Hell, doing your taxes is more enjoyable than the reboot.
@calamitouscalamity7919
@calamitouscalamity7919 Год назад
Hey rotten meat sounds pretty good when all u have had to eat for the last month was actual shit.
@NukeDaHippies
@NukeDaHippies Год назад
I really enjoyed the game too. I think the best way to summerize Soul Hackers 2 is, It's a really good JRPG thats not for everyone. People would accuse this game of being mainstream, but it's not like that at all. It's as good as any other Atlus spin off game.
@calamitouscalamity7919
@calamitouscalamity7919 Год назад
@@paultapping9510 good luck with that ive seen drug addicts with more self control the most gamers.
@mph8200
@mph8200 Год назад
a minute in n this may be the pinnacle of Yahtz at HIIIIIIIIIIgh speed. Kudos Sir. Killer as always
@NymphieJP
@NymphieJP Год назад
He's basically admitted to wanting to know when P6 is coming. What a guy!
@claudiocozzi4425
@claudiocozzi4425 Год назад
Sometimes I wish Yahtzee was around when SMT4 came out, since it solves the "personality" problem of 5 with aesthetic and characters
@WhiteFangofWar
@WhiteFangofWar Год назад
'Hoy!' -Walter
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
Same, then he'd probably raise the pertinent question why the hell did Apocalypse get a physical release but SMT 4 itself didn't? Actually I should probably grab that while I can.
@MrDevious88
@MrDevious88 Год назад
Dude's been making videos since 2008. It's just that Persona 5 was the first JRPG that he liked. I blame The World Ends with You for souring him on the genre as a whole.
@fusiontide5078
@fusiontide5078 Год назад
@@WhiteFangofWar "Most unlucky for you!"
@prismal418
@prismal418 Год назад
Such is a Samurai Skill
@erwark
@erwark Год назад
Joker didn't just know how to walk properly. It's perhaps the best feeling running in any video game (with that soundtrack)
@ocarina6908
@ocarina6908 Год назад
Bruh, did Yahtzee really just say this game is worse than P5 because it has less waifu seduction? He really has gone full weeb. I’m here for it.
@mushijian7839
@mushijian7839 Год назад
No, he said that the game itself is half-assed, comparing it with quality of Persona 5. (I dunno, It's seems just like Atlus has become bored, and they made a Persona-clone themselves, making some quick cash along the way.)
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 Год назад
Well it’s more he finds the interplay between the 2 half’s the most enthralling but and weighting one side will make it overpowering and less fun
@robertvaldes3374
@robertvaldes3374 Год назад
I mean the social day to day stuff is what actually makes persona 5 work for me, honestly. It taps into the slightly banal hope I always had for a superhero game that had you actually needing to split yiur time and manage your personal life as well as make sure that the city doesn't fall apart. Like, that's supposed to be the real fantasy, isn't it? People don't like to imagine having superpowers just so they can picture themselves tossing around cars or whatever, they imagine it because they think about how it would change their actual lives and relationships
@roujin518
@roujin518 Год назад
I think its more that what they replaced with "waifu seduction" was "constant grinding of the same dungeons". If they had a different addition to the formula like fun puzzles or interesting character back stories they it might have been a better game.
@HollowGolem
@HollowGolem Год назад
@@roujin518 They do have interesting character backstories. I actually like the drip feed of "hang out at the bar" more than the big sidestories of Social Links/Confidantes.
@Crossark1
@Crossark1 Год назад
The reason ATLUS uses the same “ladder of monsters” is because they’ve basically included all of them at some point or another in the series history. Every now and again they return to one and give it a new design (see Isis and Lucifer’s designs in SMT V) but they’ve basically hit almost every nasty boy and urban legend you can possibly think of. Most of them are hard to place in a power ranking, and many of them share their fundamental design with a pre-existing sprite, so you may as well cull it down to the ones that work, then rotate a few in and out every time when they fit the themes or plot of the game.
@baileyface54
@baileyface54 Год назад
So basically, your answer is they use the same monsters because they use the same monsters? Any idea what the floor is made of?
@Pie_The_Man
@Pie_The_Man Год назад
@@baileyface54 imo the reason why is cuz of budgetary reasons ATLUS only became somewhat popular in the past 5 years or so, prior to that they absolutely did not have the funds to add a new 100 demon models every single game, so they had to reuse a lot of assets Yahtzee is wrong about ATLUS not adding new designs tho, ask any Megaten fan what they think of Masayuki Doi's demon designs in comparison to Kazuma Kanekos and you'll prolly get them to start spewing some of the most unhinged shit you've ever heard
@adamkampen
@adamkampen Год назад
The last line in these videos always make me laugh
@babygorilla4233
@babygorilla4233 Год назад
It's really rad that Yahtzee low-key kept the escapist going for a bit. But I do miss the days when ZP had it's own channel.
@ATXnomad698
@ATXnomad698 Год назад
The delivery of "yes, I will, fuck it" made me happy
@MusicoftheDamned
@MusicoftheDamned Год назад
01:33 Somehow it's more horrifying to see Sinistar say "Senpai" with anime eyes than to see someone be casually informed that Mara is going to wear them like a hat.
@jzpowell2108
@jzpowell2108 Год назад
I am Sinistar, I hunger Yes yes, we all remember the terror this caused us at the arcade (or home if you bought Wlliam’s Greatest Arcade Hits for Sega) I now want to play Joust XD
@AntiVectorTV
@AntiVectorTV Год назад
Yahtzee's *"Yes, I will!"* is so annoyed, I love it.
@ForrestFox626
@ForrestFox626 Год назад
Can't say I blame him
@nyarider9923
@nyarider9923 Год назад
Big problem for me going through the game is that man the demon variety isn't nearly as wide as in other games. Like I swear for every set of levels there's only 1 or 2 demons that are exclusive to fusion and then the rest of them you can just recruit anyway. And that makes all the time I spend trying to make the best demons I can to prepare feel a lot less impactful when I'm constantly fighting those exact same demons
@BlackfangDragon
@BlackfangDragon Год назад
Yeah it’s generally believed health issues lead Kaneko Kazuma to make less demons with new games up until 2009, and now only does art for magazine covers or novels once every five years. He did an Oda Nobunaga like four years ago or so.
@Tyler-gg6xt
@Tyler-gg6xt Год назад
actually, that summary did save me some time.
@deanthomas9873
@deanthomas9873 Год назад
Holy shit a reference to sin-estar, wasn't expecting that, but I appreciate it non the less.
@ender7278
@ender7278 Год назад
Dungeons based on characters' internal psyche being subway themed is obviously a reference to The Most Mysterious Song on the Internet with the line "They're a long way away in the subways of your mind".
@LeahLovesNature
@LeahLovesNature Год назад
At this rate, I think we can expect the title of Yahtzee's next book to be "The More JRPGs I Play, The More I Love Persona."
@moooseman3
@moooseman3 Год назад
Loved the Sinistar reference
@lnsflare1
@lnsflare1 Год назад
"If I wanted tease and denial action, I'd-" **
@ArsonRaboot
@ArsonRaboot Год назад
I find it funny how Yahtzee complains about wanting the next Persona announced right when Atluses final announcement is a peronsa concert with no new games.
@cereal_chick2515
@cereal_chick2515 Год назад
1:14 Didn't you have a second child, Yahtzee?
@lowhp_comic
@lowhp_comic Год назад
_had_ 😞
@NukeDaHippies
@NukeDaHippies Год назад
I finished the game recently and really enjoyed the experience. The main cast interactions were always a treat, especially Ringos 1 on 1 with each in the soul matrix. Playing on hard I found the mechanics and fights got more complex and interesting over time. I got my ass handed to me quite alot. If you've played and liked atlus games other than P5 and SMT 5, you'll be pleased to find this game is reminiscent of those. Not as high budget, but still offering alot to like regardless.
@EvilExcalibur
@EvilExcalibur Год назад
Did we learn nothing from Kingdom Hearts 3? A decade of tease and denial isn't exactly the way to keep interest going
@ovensmuggler5207
@ovensmuggler5207 Год назад
Well, it was 7 years between P4 and 5 so it's probably going to be a while for P6, which is fine by me since I enjoy all of smt, but I can see why it would make new fans brought in by persona 5 mad since they wouldn't know about this
@alwaysangry2232
@alwaysangry2232 Год назад
me having a brain explosion realizing how neat jack frost fit into Yathz gremlin helpers
@0mnil0rd
@0mnil0rd Год назад
Shoutout to Sinistar and the horrible noise he used to make when he was trying to eat you.
@doihavetobeg
@doihavetobeg Год назад
Hearing Yahtzee say "waifu seduction" warms my heart
@DylanYoshi
@DylanYoshi Год назад
I feel like Yahtzee should give Live A Live a try, with it being a recently released RPG that very much goes against the norm of what RPG's are. Not in the sense that Persona does, but since it pays homage to so many different genres (westerns, Alien-style horror, Street Fighter 2, etc) he'd probably find something to like there compared to most RPG's.
@LOLquendoTV
@LOLquendoTV Год назад
He did, he said he couldnt get into it cause of the combat so he didnt review it
@ovensmuggler5207
@ovensmuggler5207 Год назад
Street Fighter 2 is my favourite videogame genre
@markaznar1979
@markaznar1979 Год назад
I LOVE the review! It made me laugh a lot, God only know how much I need a good laugh of late. Keep it up!
@TheRoboKitty
@TheRoboKitty Год назад
If Yahtzee thinks we're going to COMPLAIN about him comparing Soul Hackers to SMTV and P5, he clearly doesn't know Atlus very well
@mms16
@mms16 Год назад
yahtz hasn't failed to state he's raising a child in the latest videos and i feel this is some cry for help
@Raida7
@Raida7 Год назад
"Yes, I will. Fuck it.". Fantastic execution
@ForrestFox626
@ForrestFox626 Год назад
How I feel interacting with other Altus fans sometimes
@logon-oe6un
@logon-oe6un Год назад
i feel like the SMT topics have a cap on how hard they can hit, if you know it all started from a YA novel about a twink programmer compiling a ritual to summon Satan to kill his bully, and then having to go on a quest to deal with the consequences.
@ovensmuggler5207
@ovensmuggler5207 Год назад
Don't forget, said twink (named Nakajima) is also the reincarnation of Izanagi, and he met a girl who's the reincarnation of izanami and that's where the name comes from
@TubeTAG
@TubeTAG Год назад
I don't know why but that automated lawn sprinkler joke at the end had me laughing so hard I nearly passed out. When I find out that it's caused irreparable brain damage or I actually had a mild heart attack in the middle of that laughing fit, I'm sending you the bill, Yahtz.
@MoonTiger88
@MoonTiger88 Год назад
One huge fucking tip which I only learned about halfway through the game from a random post. Turn the loading screen tips off. Loads the game almost instanteniously while with the tips it took like 15 sec every.single.time.
@masterofdoom5000
@masterofdoom5000 Год назад
Credits gag was on point.
@Ike_of_pyke
@Ike_of_pyke Год назад
0:39 not only a spin off of the smt franchise but a spin off OF THE EXACT SAME spin off, namely SMT IF..., Which was the first high school based game set in the modern day where things aren't YET destroyed but threatened with destruction and the first game to feature companion demons that manifest from the character's psyche AS WELL as the comp system, with persona of course taking the former and devil summoner focusing on the latter.
@DragonKingX78
@DragonKingX78 Год назад
I enjoyed the game, do wish it had a higher budget, better dungeon design, and few mechanical changes/improvements. I do agree that demon negotiation should have been an option though I also like the idea of my demons getting other demons to join.
@mariotaz
@mariotaz Год назад
3:50 that Terminator 2 4K advert lol
@synicalfutilist4890
@synicalfutilist4890 Год назад
Ringo's name would translate to Apple in English so it being based on aware ai may be closer to the bone than initially thought
@wilfchapman-gandy8120
@wilfchapman-gandy8120 Год назад
BRRRUUUUH that was such a good end credits gag.
@mondayadams8166
@mondayadams8166 Год назад
Having binged a lot of his old stuff all the way up to recent I am just happy to say that after all these years the only thing that's changed is quality and that's in an upscale. It's beautiful and I'm glad I've got to watch it in real time over the years
@averagejoe5145
@averagejoe5145 Год назад
I'm not 100% sure of this, but Yahtzee probably would've hated the 1st Soul Hackers game on 3DS a LOT more. For one thing, the demons in the 1st game are a LOT more talkative when you give orders to them in that game & it's tied to an affection system IIRC! The demons have both actions they hate & actions they love which they'll let you know ALL about! They complain if you tell them to do something they hate, but obviously will be enthusiastic if you tell them to do something they love doing DURING EVERY COMBAT ENCOUNTER! The Soul Hackers game on 3DS is ALSO a port of an old PS1 game so that means there are plenty of random encounters in it too! If you're not into old school JRPG's like me, then you probably won't like THAT part! There was also a feature where you had to unlock some new demons from other game entries in the SMT franchise either by using Streetpass or by using "Play Coins" which (for those who don't know) were tied into the pedometer function on the 3DS! The game also DOESN'T tell you everything you need to know much like other games from the 90's so you either had to figure it out yourself or find a walkthrough. For example, there's a choice in an early story conversation that will dictate what magic & skills the main heroine gets in the game! If it were released today, there'd be (metaphorically speaking) bells & whistles to warn you of this choice but remember that this is a port of a game FROM THE 90's! I know some people (like myself) will like those retro vibes or just won't care either way about the retro vibes of the 1st Soul Hackers, but people who don't like classic JRPG's probably won't like the 1st Soul Hackers either. One more thing for those who are curious: From what I've heard, there's no real connection between Soul Hackers 1 & 2. The only thing they have in common is their cyberpunk aesthetic. That's it.
@ovensmuggler5207
@ovensmuggler5207 Год назад
I think that both Soul Hackers 1 and 2 are in the Devil Summoner (which includes the persona games, SMT if... And the Devil Summoner games) timeline and that's it
@hawkemesa
@hawkemesa Год назад
Wasn't soul hackers 1 the one with the mega fuckhuge last dungeon? I might be confusing it with strange journey.
@averagejoe5145
@averagejoe5145 Год назад
@@hawkemesa You could also be thinking of SMT IV: Apocalypse. I heard that a lot of people complained that the final dungeon in that game was WAY too long!
@averagejoe5145
@averagejoe5145 Год назад
@@ovensmuggler5207 I don't know if the canon might have been retconned or not, but I heard that "SMT If..." takes place in the Persona universe. I heard that the protagonists from "SMT If..." make cameo appearances in the 1st Persona game.
@TheUndeadslayer221
@TheUndeadslayer221 Год назад
"incident with a slurpee machine" sounds more like someone mentioning having issues with the ice cream machine at McDonalds (comparison might have worked better).
@Pewafamath
@Pewafamath Год назад
I remember seeing a stream of persona 5 and going, hey wait those are the demons from Orge Battle March of the black queen from the SNES. That is my entire Atlus exposure.
@justinmillard8196
@justinmillard8196 Год назад
I enjoyed the Sinistar reference. Always a treat when someone else remembers that.
@Pazuzu4All
@Pazuzu4All Год назад
The elementary school bully of video games. You gave it quarters and it called you a coward for running away.
@justinmillard8196
@justinmillard8196 Год назад
@@Pazuzu4All there’s a great little joke website about the philosophy of Sinistar that analyses the quotes. It’s a quick fun read that I have fond memories of.
@graysonmulder9529
@graysonmulder9529 Год назад
I like how he never mentions Soul Hackers 1 lol.
@TJGibson0
@TJGibson0 Год назад
I love that Yahtz has started putting in random bits about his personal life that he hasn't said publically before (AFAIK) into these newer ZPs. Like apparently he has a kid that's at least 18 months old.
@Ragnarakk
@Ragnarakk Год назад
The monster roster is almost all based on actual mythological things so thats why they cant really change much.. i wouldnt be against ADDING stuff though
@dkdrock456
@dkdrock456 Год назад
This is actually a refreshingly honest and more from the heart review from him. Not to say the recent reviews have been bad or anything, quite the opposite actually. It's just in this one you can hear a lot more emotion, as well as exasperation, from him which is a joy to watch.
@sleepysera
@sleepysera Год назад
I know being the grumpy curmudgeon is his "brand" but I really don't like the implication that his recent reviews haven't been honest just because he actually enjoyed and praised some stuff instead of expressing exasperation or annoyance. Positive emotions are real too, not just negative ones 😅
@dkdrock456
@dkdrock456 Год назад
@@sleepysera oh I didn't mean to imply that his other recent work is disingenuous. I simply wanted to express my appreciation for how emotionally expressive he was in this one. There were a few moments where is intonation shifted into a much more earnest sounding tone and it was a nice change of pace.
@AngryIrishBenjamin
@AngryIrishBenjamin Год назад
Funny thing is you don't really "fight and recruit" Personas in Persona 3 & 4, you get them in playing cards dropped after the battle.
@scaper12123
@scaper12123 Год назад
I just realized, Yahtzee is going through what Persona fans suffered when P5 was being developed, only Atlus are doing this to us before even announcing whatever the next game will be
@KatE-fg5pk
@KatE-fg5pk 6 месяцев назад
This is quite possibly my favorite video game review ever.
@U-Flame
@U-Flame Год назад
Aww, didn't expect to see Pokemon plushies, and also Tales games. Two of my favorite interests!
@stevenclubb7718
@stevenclubb7718 Год назад
Like the Yakuza games, I like the familiarity that the same collection of demons and spells brings... although they definitely could do a better job of focusing on some new demons in the main campaign. Soul Hackers 2 has some charms, but it just doesn't have a sense of identity. It's just generic Atlasverse.
@hellspawnedhero1123
@hellspawnedhero1123 Год назад
1:00 to 1:12 yes! yes I'm almost certain that is the actual answer. at least that's my headcanon. It's a pain the ass trying to figure out the chart in play. imagine what a pain it is to actually make yourself
@ForrestFox626
@ForrestFox626 Год назад
I can see that happening
@NerotheGame
@NerotheGame Год назад
The fixed roster of demons is because they're based off mythological figures, unlike Pokemon that just makes stuff up. I do think there are some prominent figures that haven't been adapted into SMT yet but I think the best they can really do is change the designs here and there.
@sonicjms
@sonicjms Год назад
The dungeon design is a bit unexpected until you realize that this is a sequel to Devil Summoner Soul Hackers in the sense too, that they took the old school style dungeon design they've more recently had in Etrian Odyssey and tried to modernize the formula.
@ThorAxiun
@ThorAxiun Год назад
I only got about 7 hours of the game before deciding I probably will never pick it up again and paid like 70 bucks for it. Lost pretty big on this one and DNF Duel this year.
@FourLetterLWord
@FourLetterLWord Год назад
Funny you say working the fusion charts out just the once and lifting between games, because for whatever weird reason every game actuay has a different fusion and arcana set up. And thats not meant to defend them because its really easy to not notice. But that just begs the question of why go to the trouble to change it at all then?
@ovensmuggler5207
@ovensmuggler5207 Год назад
I guess fusing would get stale for more experienced players and to balance around the demons available in the game, still weird though
@staticshock4239
@staticshock4239 Год назад
Honestly the main reason I didn't have too much hope for this is for one reason: Soul Hackers 2 came out 8 months after Shin Megami Tensei 5 released. Heck it was announced 6 months before release. That is too fast for a new rpg in a franchise in my opinion. It would be different if it was a port or remaster of an older game.
@ovensmuggler5207
@ovensmuggler5207 Год назад
Fair point, personally I didn't have too much hope because I wasn't too big of a fan of the new style and was just hoping that they could at least capture the saturday morning cartoon charm the original had, I've yet got to play it so I'll probably see for myself if I ever see it discounted
@GayBearBro2
@GayBearBro2 Год назад
Honestly, sounds about right for the Soul Hackers series. I know Persona team is pretty much Shin Megami Tensei's A-Team, but I wish there was a touch more inventiveness and style in the other series. Seeing Soul Hackers revived makes me worried about Devil Summoner and Digital Devil Saga though. I'm more hopeful about Devil Survivor considering the underwhelming entity that is Digimon Survive.
@noirscape_
@noirscape_ Год назад
Ehhh it's not really their A-team. No offense, but both mechanically and in terms of thematic consistency Persona pales when it comes to mainline SMT. SMT4 kinda blows Persona 4/5 out of the water in basically every way except for character writing. SMT5 is also still mechanically superior to P5, but it's story is just criminally underwritten.
@Khunkurisu
@Khunkurisu Год назад
@@noirscape_ if by mechanically superior you mean substantially less enjoyable you’re right. Something having more depth/complexity doesn’t make it superior, if the game mechanics aren’t fun.
@noirscape_
@noirscape_ Год назад
@@Khunkurisu *Hard* disagree. Persona's gameplay is very basic, doesn't go much beyond hitting the weaknesses, fusing demons close to your level and praying on the AI roulette. The games abbreviate a *lot* of deckbuilding elements that SMT offers (even this one) by just giving you prepacked decks to work with for your entire party except for the MC. With SMT, at a basic level you're asked to make sure your team lacks elemental weaknesses against the boss, that you can properly buff and debuff yourself and enemies alongside hitting the right weaknesses. In persona you're building a single team, in SMT you're constantly building your decks out for specific encounters and that is a ton of fun.
@Khunkurisu
@Khunkurisu Год назад
@@noirscape_ Yes. That "abbreviated" design is what makes them more fun to most people. Simple mechanics can absolutely be better than complex ones, and in this case SMT's complexity is a detriment, not a strength.
@SammyDrz
@SammyDrz Год назад
​@@Khunkurisu I think you've overselling how abbreivated it is in Persona, both of you tbh. There is more to SMT in regards to party demons and you have to keep in mind what set of demons you have, mostly for managing coverage of various things you might need as well as what you're weak to. you still have to do that in Persona, just it's one character you have to worry about. I also just highly disagree that it's a detriment to SMT's design, it's literally built around it systems. And as someone who enjoys both, I think it's fine they have different focuses. Despite the one character though, a good Persona player is still going to make a team of demons, since MC has to be there at all times, you'll want different demons to swap yourself to for similar reasons. SMT just expects you to do it more often but that's part of why I enjoy both. I enjoy the emphasis on character and a protag surrounded by other characters of Persona and I enjoy the idea that I'm fusing various demons together to make a team of my own demons, it just feels nice sometimes having a good team setup of demons I like, with moves I picked out for everyone. Definitely gives the demons a more personal feel.
@AdamStankus
@AdamStankus Год назад
3:51 Is that the Golden Axe "go!" sprite? Man I'm an old nerd.
@GT3-787B
@GT3-787B Год назад
Having completed the game, I can say I had a lot of fun with this game. It changes up the Atlus JRPG formula just enough that it makes it new and fun while keeping some familiar elements which doesn't make it too complicated to pick up and understand how to do well. The real shame is the day 1 DLC bullshit that Atlus insists on doing, they're basically skirting the 60 dollar/euro asking price with this kind of stuff, kind of like Ubisoft which isn't exactly a good example of consumer-friendly practices -.- Also, the DLC despite being overpriced, the Lost Numbers storyline isn't too bad and is fairly large as well, adds a lot of content and a tough superboss. Back to SH2, the story is actually pretty fun, it has the levity of a Persona game but since the characters are adults, the anime cringe factor is much lower, and thank god the english dub doesn't keep the sans and chans (thus reducing the anime cringe factor), so despite Yahtzee's opinion, if you like Atlus' style of JRPG, you might just like this one.
@nifftbatuff676
@nifftbatuff676 Год назад
Wow. I see an expert of SMT.
@algomi9280
@algomi9280 Год назад
is there a review, regarding devil survivor?
@illusive-mike
@illusive-mike Год назад
On the one hand, the demon recruitment is actually rather easy once you understand that "scouts" spawn on encounter clears and you get the app to highlight the encounters with demons you want to boost specific recruitment chance. On the other hand, this is terribly explained in the game itself, and the TMS-style Estoma Sword is just so damn good for taking out the trash and sparing you a trip where you try to remember what food you want to apply and which shop in which district sells it. SH2 did a great job managing its own budget, but an abysmal job managing the player's time.
@morganrippke7413
@morganrippke7413 Год назад
So, funny enough, the "randomly get a friendly demon to randomly get you a chance to recruit demons to get a random demon" can actually be honed with options. For starters, you can have a meal that increases the chance of demon recruits. Also, the more of a specific demon you fight, the more likely it is for that demon to be the one who joins. And there are ways you can "see" where those demons are so you can just fight those fights. Otherwise, yeah, it's somewhere between SMT V and Persona V and doesn't do enough of either to really stand out. It was a fun playthrough though. Hit me with 6 plot twists in rapid succession enough to cause mental whiplash.
@vandalg282
@vandalg282 7 месяцев назад
Yeah after the clusterfuck that is the 900+ Pokemon in said title....I wouldn't want to go above 200, let alone mixing them to form new+ versions of themselves. It works. Because it still feels like the OG games. With that said, a lot of people, haven't fought many of the creatures in said games. Till this day, people will post on forums saying "where was the one located?" They're doing a fine job.
@personguy8839
@personguy8839 Год назад
I wonder if he'll play the older games one day.
@Demos-I
@Demos-I Год назад
I'm only a minute or so in and the lack of new demons was addressed with smt 5 where they added a few more, don't fully know if they added new ones for soul hackers 2 but it is something atlus at the very least is aware of
@UnrealAxel27
@UnrealAxel27 Год назад
There are new ones. Or at least they cycled ones they haven't used in a while. SMT has more demons than pokemon has pocket monsters.
@teslashark
@teslashark Год назад
Atlus monsters used to have American ghosts and possessed tanks.
@wom_Bat
@wom_Bat Год назад
Well i loved soul hacker 1 so I'm definitely getting this. I do like my grinding.
@First-Last_name
@First-Last_name Год назад
Soul hackers was probably my favourite game on 3ds
@todddavis2985
@todddavis2985 Год назад
When is your next audio book coming out??
@mesektet5776
@mesektet5776 Год назад
I can’t help but wonder what Yahtzee would say if he saw the third Atlas property - Disgaea.
@TyrantLoki
@TyrantLoki Год назад
Disgaea is made by NIS. Atlus just helps them publish it in the US
@RoseDelta
@RoseDelta Год назад
Hey I feel called out about the pokémon plushies.
@aohige
@aohige Год назад
Yahtzee, some of us do want sequels of old favorites instead of another Persona, and the first Soul Hackers was one of the best SMT spinoff ever made. Also, Atlus, THIS AIN'T IT. It has basically nothing to do with the original "Devil Summoner Soul Hackers" and has none of its charms.
@ordinaryhuman5645
@ordinaryhuman5645 Год назад
I had seen Soul Hackers 2 recommended in Steam and didn't even realize that it was an SMT spin-off because I had mostly forgotten playing Soul Hackers on the 3DS, as it was the worst of the SMT-related games I played on that platform. Not in a rush to check out Soul Hackers 2 with that in mind.
@greenhat8978
@greenhat8978 Год назад
I'm surprised you didn't bring up anything about the magical tapeworms
@damiang9
@damiang9 Год назад
Best video in a long while... and the others have been good.
@ZombieChesseDip
@ZombieChesseDip Год назад
Yahtzee, you may not know this but it took persona five around five years and a console generation to come out. Even if they announce Persona six there’s no fucking way it comes out without being delayed for at least two years. Besides, they haven’t milked Persona five for all it’s worth yet. This is something you’ll have to get used to. The second Atlus finds something that gets mainstream appeal they’ll spin things off until there’s nothing left to spin. Hell, I’m pretty sure that’s how persona started.
@Antichthon
@Antichthon Год назад
you have no idea how any of this works and it shows
@ronanclark2129
@ronanclark2129 Год назад
Before I watch the video: "A new Zero Punctuation! After: Did he smite this game already?
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