Yeah, so I spent over 3 hours today just trying to get 3 Logitech webcams to work together in OBS for this video. If that doesn't deserve a like I don't know what does...😅
i know this is off- topic but how do i see my total viewers? like that have visited my stream? i haven't started streaming yet but 2 people have been on my channel and i'm just curious who it is.
First video I've watched of yours, well done! Very thorough, slickly and cleanly presented. I also love for comparison you throw in a $500+ camera, just to show all the contestants who's boss 😂
Regarding the problem mentioned at 6:30 As I understand it (I've also personally experienced this), the issue is in the software being used. If you use the old "Logitech Gaming Software," or the default software, to control the cameras, it will cause the settings to be "forgotten" or "reset" upon reboot. The fix for this is to download and setup the "Logitech G Hub," which is a newer (using the term loosely) software that allows the control of multiple cameras/devices individually, and at the same time. The downside to using this software is it will default all settings for cameras (and other Logitech devices) that you allow it to start controlling, requiring time spent to set everything back up the way you had it, before.
The other use for the streamcam's rotation feature is when you have to clip the camera to the side of a monitor. Then you can reorientate the camera can shoot in landscape while clipped to the side of a monitor.
Image stabilization actually sounds like it would be good for my setup when playing racing games. I have my monitors on a mount that clamps to my desk and due to the size/layout of my space I have to mount my wheel and shifter to my desk as well. So there can be a bit of movement for the monitors, which would also be moving any webcam attached to them. Thanks for this comparison video! I was literally just about to run to Best Buy to get a cam for streaming when I saw this!!!
Awesome video as always! One of my older C920s have been stuttering a lot so I had to swap my secondary one to become my main. I noticed the StreamCam was introduced to the market and was waiting for a comparison video and I knew this channel would be a reliable source. Thank you!
Portrait mode might be used, as you mentioned on TikTok and Instgram, but also on Facebook. Stabilization might be important for IRL streamers and that's why the USB-C cable - to connect to your phone? Maybe?
Im going to try and post my first RU-vid video this Sunday. You really helped thanks. I ended up going with the c920 really the other webcams for the price aren't worth it especially since the webcam on screen is small and probably going to be outputted in 720p for new streamers
Thanks for the comparison video ... I wanted to get the Brio, because it has "Windows Hello" and an USB C Plug so I can use different cable lengths. But now I am even more unsure what to get. :D
What about being able to mount the camera vertically instead of horizontally and being able to rotate the camera to keep the image normal. Portrait mode could be useful for this.
The portrait mode could be handy for green screen streamers? We don't want the background, so if you have just You visible with no room background then I think the portrait mode could be handy, I think I'd use it :)
I've had the streamcam for a few months and I love it but I'm also mad that WHY WHY and WHY logi didn't make the cable detachable? It's a great little webcam but the cable is annoying. Easy to use, decent image quality.
Biggest issue found with the 920 is the focus. Auto focus is turned off and it still goes out of focus from time to time while live streaming. Looking forward to your final review of the new elgato cam
The reverted settings bug also exists in the Logitech C922 - for example set zoom, pan and tilt in OBS/OBS.Live and have to do it all again after reboot. Have read a few comments here and saw a mention of Logitech G Suite which I will be taking a look at regardless of having to reconfigure from scratch because this issue has had me pulling hair for ages - thanks for that comment and appreciate the great review done here 👍
This was an awesome super engaging, fun, interesting & insightful video as per usual, Pete! Thank you for going into an extensive level of detail during your testing for this comparison. 😁 👌 Cheers mate! 🍻
FINALLY a reviewer that also points out - PROPERLY - the downsides of a product. I would say the image quality between the 920 and Streamcam were significant though. So, StreamCam will be my first streaming camera. Yay :) And thanks!
To be fair, vertical mode CAN be useful, especially now that RU-vid and several other platforms have "shorts" and twitter has stories, all of which are vertical, so recording via the streamcam in vertical makes it seem like they were future proofing and preparing for that. Also, I've seen several art streamers (myself included) who like to have a vertical frame for their camera and normally have to use some manual crop to adjust the image down, so it's actually a nice touch. And depending on how you have your camera mounted, if it's mounted to the table, and your table is susceptible to a little bit of shake as you type, you do notice a LITTLE bit of camera shake on the c920, so image stabilization on the StreamCam is actually a pretty cool feature that most people don't think about. You don't care about image stabilization until you notice in editing that you're typing that's causing your camera image to wobble a little. In terms of product name... unless you REALLY know what you're getting, if you're getting into the streaming or content creation game, knowing the differance between the c920, c922, brio and all the other numbers Logitech have brought out... "StreamCam" is incredibly easy to remember, so I think the name works and I don't see this camera needing to be updated for another 5 years, so it's a name that works and sits well for a few years.
yes its exactly what im explaining upstairs. you can use it in your phone to improve stuff even... maybe for him is useless (and much other reviewers, is not the 1st that say that) buy people with imagination, could be VERY useful
Stabilizer make sense for someone with a tablet (Surface Pro 7 , Surface Go 2 , iPads & so on with USB-C ) also there are apps for phones for live streaming with usb cameras
Just adjust BRIO white balance and you have best quality webcam (looks like you wanted BRIO look bad compare to StreamCam). StreamCam looks like C920 with very small improvement and 4x price. Funny that Logitech can not compete with their own 8 years old product.
This was a super helpful video: to the point; visual comparisons; well produced. I'm researching webcams for a nascent niche academic RU-vid channel with a friend, and the different Logitech models had been bugging me for a while. I think the Streamcam so far seems the best option...
The annoying thing about the C920 settings bug is that it carried over into the C922 as well. Every time I restart OBS Studio, or the PC, I have to reset the camera properties for zoom, pan, tilt, lighting, etc. However, it would have been interesting to see you run the comparison using the C922 instead of the C920 - the C922 is closer to the price band of the Brio and Streamcam.
Thanks for the side by side comparison. Streamcam vs the DSLR is noticable, but not enough to pay more than double. It's a nice upgrade to shoot for when I make it big, though.
This new product have great tweaks about webcams that I liked. But I still prefer the FoV of brio. The problem with brio seems to be in the software that comes out of the box completely unbalanced. I always need to change te color temperature, exposition, and even gain to obtain a good image. This new StreamCam seems do be a regular webcam with the software issues from Brio, fixed.
Very cool video, exactly what I was looking for with great information and testings, bonus was the comparison to the a5100 as well. Awesome thanks again!
Great video! Im sticking to my brio, love the wide view, high resolution. The colors are off out of the box ut nothing i couldnt fix with some OBS tweaking when first setting it up :)
@@ModernLifeDating you rightclick the camsource in obs, choose "filters". And then add the filter called "color correction" i believe :) here is an article with steps and pictures: streamshark.io/obs-guide/color-correction
Decided to just use my Samsung S21 Ultra via the Iriun app. At 1920x1080 it seems to do an amazing job compared to the small megapixel webcams out there. The phone does all the processing and correction much better and I haven't experienced the lag people seem to complain about (perhaps that is due to having a good router). I think phone AI and processing is king. Even if the argument for mirrorless being better because it has a depth of field due to the lens my counter argument is third party phone lenses such as moment.
I found your video with one of your gaming set ups and I subscribed since then! You rock, I’m a gamer and record gameplay. Been really thinking about streaming with a webcam, so this helps a lot! Thank you!!
The streamcam (two years later) is now $99 new. The only thing I don't like about it is the short, short cable. You can't attach an extender to it unless you want a LOT of lag. That's it
The vertical/portrait is something I've been looking for my business. I prefer to save and edit the file on a much more powerfull machine than on my mobile
I think what tips the Brio's price more is the Windows Hello support. It's got additional IR sensors needed for facial recognition. The streamcam doesn't support Windows Hello in spite of having a better image closer to the mirrorless camera.
Dude, your videos are awesome, top quality! Thanks for making this comparison, i'm considering the StreamCam for my streams but i'm just starting out tho 😊
You could also stream on a GoPro Hero 7 Black or the 8 if you anyone has those. It does require a cam link but the quality of it is super good. I say it’s slightly better than the StreamCam
This is the video I needed! Now I decided to get the c920 but it is like double the price on amazon, the prices are just crazy now, at least here in México
Edit: I have it now and the colors look awesome! I got it for less than its cost on amazon but then amazon lowered by 20$ than the price that I bought it lol
Gaming isn't the only streaming going on. It maybe pretty popular, but there's a lot more content out there. @7:50 I'm a (primarily creative) streamer and I prefer my face cam to be portrait mode. I know of several others who do the same. @8:00 Several streamers I know personally use webcams on backpack rigs to livestream while out in the world.
Very good comparison! A pity it doesn't cover the C930. I upgraded from the C920 to C930 and was pretty happy with the jump in quality. Less noise, more detail, more accurate colour, and a wider field of view. Downside to the C930 though is the auto exposure that tries too hard. It overexposes when there's not much light. You end up being able to see more in a dark room but things like a streamer's face get blown out. I'd be keen to see a full comparison, but at a guess the C930 sits somewhere in the middle of the 920 and the StreamCam.
I like the possibility to stream with the non landscape mode. I stream with my cam cropped almost to a square because my room is really small and I don’t want the viewers see white walls on the sides. But I would like to see a bit more up and down the screen, that my viewers can see more of my decorations in the back above me. So I think the new view mode would be perfect for me.
The huge difference between the StreamCam and every other webcam on the market is the StreamCam's tight field of view while most other cameras emphasize their wide angle. It is even tighter when you use the Auto Framing feature in the Logitech Capture software that works with it. With Auto Focus, the StreamCam zooms in on you and keeps you in full view at all times regardless of where you are behind the computer. I prefer this for Zoom and other meetings. There is no benefit in showing the stuff behind me. If I am sitting back with my feet on the desk, the StreamCam still shows my head and shoulders and makes it look like I am sitting directly behind the monitor. The close up is great for the little picture typical for a participant in Zoom or when another screen is the primary focus of a presentation. It would be too much for a typical RU-vid video of a single person. In that case, extra background would look better. I would buy a StreamCam again for the way I use it. If a tight field of view is not your primary interest in a WebCam, you should buy anything else.
I agree with all of your points 100%, except the portrait mode. I actually see quite a few people, myself including, cropping the webcam to portrait mode these days. I would definitely say it's a growing trend. Is it massively used? Not yet, but it certainly has a potential and I personally would use it and I know a few other streamers that would as well.
I would benefit from the image stabilization because I will be using an extension cable and bringing the camera outside handheld to record videos of my dog. Also any other hand-held shooting would benefit from it.
I was looking at ways to set up for a streaming rig. I decided the best way would be to use a HD-SDI camera with a prime lens and an hd-sdi to RTSP stream converter. then streaming the RTSP stream to a separate PC that has Xsplit or OBS. Then have an hdmi converter from the gaming rig streaming to the streaming rig. that way it takes all processing off the gaming rig. HD-SDI cameras can be had for less than the stream cam and have better quality and are a much more professional solution.
Excellent video, and EXACTLY what I was looking for. The Brio and the StreamCam are about the same price atm. I do wonder how the Elgato FaceCam compares.
Fantastic review. Making the jump to a new Webcam / Streamcam and at todays price can get the Logitech C922 just barely north of $100 US and I'd imagine the USB C and better throughput. That Save settings is a must also for those you set these up for don't want to have to reset every restart. -thx
I literally just bought the brio, am having issues with lag on everything, on my m1 mac, probably an apple issue. I watched your video and I literally just packed up the brio and am returning it. Not sure if ill get the stream cam but you just proved to me this camera is not that great xD
This only my own opinion, but at 3:31 when the comparison between the Streamcam and the C920, the skin is all red, like a sunburn on the Streamcam. If someone was standing in front of me, my real skin tone is the same as the C920 example, which is what I prefer. I don't want to be saturated or darkened or modified, like they do to models, just want to show up as myself. In all examples shown here, the C920 example is the looks I would want. Just my preference.
Sony A5100 is a clear winner here. If you are tight on a budget just find a used one in a good condition. Now I have a question - what is the best prime E-mount lens for streaming/vlogging when camera is placed behind your monitor in a several feet from your face?
I gave up trying to find a decent webcam. Why spend about 200 and not be happy? I ended up just getting the ZV-1 gently used for $480 shipped. Sure, a lot more, but I expect it will look fairly comparable to the a5100. It also has 4K. On the other hand, the 1" sensor (which is huge compared to webcams) will be a good bit smaller than aps-c on the a5100, so I don't expect the low light performance to be that outstanding, but then again, you can do good lighting at the pc when using it as a webcam...
Thanks for the video. Great comparison! Are we in agreement that the Streamcam has the best image quality out of the box for a webcam (without tweaking)?
The Sony is by far, superior BUT...the 920 seems to be a magnificent balance between price, practicle function and size, and quality. I can see why it's such a popular camera choice. Thanks for the extensive review.
Great channel. I just bought it. I thought to many was going way to hard on it. Its abit confusing to use with OBS and Logitect capture at same time for me though. But its a real good cam, especially with the auto framing.
Before even watching it, based on the streamcam advertisements I've seen, I believe the BRIO is better webcam (disregarding the DSLR). I just wish the white balance was better without adjustments.
@@NamFlow yeah the white balance and overexposure issues are a problem but the FOV is pretty important for a streamer. Also, the visual issues can be "fixed" by changing some settings