308 brass, fired out of fluted chambers leafes this kind of dirt/carbon pattern behind. Like all H&K roller locked recoil operrated semi autos (G3, SL7)
Thanks, I think? Gotta mix it up from "watch me load this for the range" and "look what I did at the range". I'll probably not shoot the worst of the bunch, but we'll see.
Well thanks lol, sorry. It's sometimes hard to hear tone or inflection through a message. Glad to know somebody finds this nonsense somewhat informative 👊👍🇺🇸
I'm real picky and would have scrapped all of those. I get so much free 223/556 brass there's no need to take a chance nor spend the extra time on them.
Plenty of free 223 brass, that's for sure! I have buckets of it, but I also think people throw out brass that is 100% fine though it might have a tiny(or large) dent on the case, and was trying to show that most of them are usable and will fireform out. Also, I needed to know for apocalypse science. I have a range report somewhere from taking these out. I usually save these for making 300blk. Thanks 🇺🇸
Very good video, not many what if videos, which I look for since I'm relatively new to reloading, lots of info I was looking for, hope to see more like this
@@DummyRound same maybe with pistol cartridges, I've only been reloading 45 acp, and now casting and powdercoating my own bullets but really been getting rid of casings even with little dings because I dont want no chance of a catastrophic failure , but maybe getting rid of for no reason, I'm not really sure. Like i said, there isn't alot of videos giving solid examples of good, ok, and bad brass.
Thanks! Hopefully there was something useful in there. I think you can get to the range review from one of the cards at the end, if not, then on the 223 playlist shortly behind this video 👊🇺🇲
During the last “shortage” I picked up a butt load of LC 7.62 NATO cases fired from an H-K left behind as “range orphans” at my range. These I used to reload for my Ishapore RFI 7.62 NATO Enfield (which to me kicks like a mule using NATO ammo...I know, I’m a wuss☺️) using a 150 grain cast w/gas check using 13 grains of Red Dot powder (“The Load”...do a duck duck go or google search) with no issues and I still have my face (as old and ugly as it is...but as always with anything in reloading or shooting BE CAREFUL and YMMV...I enjoy your posts 👍👍👍
I'm probably not going to shoot the worst of the bunch, some of those are pretty scary lol. I've heard of "the load", but don't have any milsurps or bolt guns to use it in. Thanks for the comment! 👊👍🇺🇸
I have a 5 gallon bucket of Dooms Day brass, collected from the range over the years, that I hang onto, but question highly, when in contrast to brass that can be loaded that isn't defective looking.. This is encouraging to see this video, and now am wondering if I should actually go through and start loading some of those myself, so I know what to personally expect.. maybe bring along to the range to knock any stuck units out, isolate those from the rest.... Interesting.. I am glad you ran this video.. as I am always wondering if I should stop holding onto that bucket and run'em in for scrap?.. but now, I think I would load'em up and have them as worse case scenario back up junk ammo rounds...
I would hang onto it. Some of them might not be pretty, but they could still work in a worst case scenario. I ended up tossing those cases from the video, but most could have been reused or even chopped down to 300blk brass. I'm glad you found this somewhat useful. Thanks for watching brother 🇺🇸👍👍
Small dents I wouldn't hesitate. However, that worst one "I" would have thrown in the trash bucket. I used to get a lot of shoulder dents (wrong lube 🤪) and those would usually fire-form back out, but I would also save them and anneal before loading. Good luck with your experiment 👍
Yeah, I'll probably pass on the worst few of the bunch when I get to the range. I would usually just chop these into 300blk or trash them all together. I haven't had too many issues with the lube dents, unless I go really heavy on the One Shot. Imperial sizing wax is perfect every time as long as I keep it off the neck to begin with. Thanks, Jerry!👊👍🇺🇸
I might be tempted if it was very rare, extremely hard to get brass for some unusual caliber but for things like 9mm & .223 which is as free as dirt where I live , then I pass on all damage no matter how little. All the damaged brass gets added to my "Defective brass collection". Mike
These were totally free as dirt! I most likely won't end up shooting the worst few of the bunch. I usually would chop all of these to 300blk, if they have the proper head stamp, otherwise, they go into the defective brass pile as well.
Very useful comments. In an "ideal" world we would always use pristine brass and not give a passing thought to discarding "ugly" cases. We do not, however, live is such an utopian world and reloading less than perfect cases might be a matter of necessity. You are correct in suggesting that at least in some instances dented .223/5.56 cases could be converted to 300 Blackout (which I don't load). Alternately, many of these dinged cases could also be used for forming 7.62x25 mm Tokarev cases (which I do load). Particularly in the midst of our current nationwide ammo "drought," it strikes me as entirely reasonable to conserve the reloading components available to us.
Simply as an additional "two cents worth" on repurposing damaged brass, I have also converted 30/06 cases to 8mm Mauser and used .308 Winchester (7.62 NATO) brass to make shot shells for a Colt Model 1911. Many of your viewers are likely aware that 9mm Luger cases can be formed into brass for 9mm Makarov. All of this is to say that sometimes the cases we glibly pitch as too damaged to use for their original function might well be worth retaining for an alternate application.
That's another great point. I have a buddy that converts his 308/762 into 243 and trims down 9mm luger into 9x18 as well. I was actually just thinking about how many cases can be converted or chopped down into another cartridge. Thanks for the extra 2c!
the 308 brass that has the long ridges comes from a H&K G3, PTR91, or CETME. they have fluted barrels for better reliability in full auto. commercial guns get the same same barrels and chambers. some of those guns also come in 556/223, and that would explain the weird bulged lines.
I only picked up 223 brass that was in piles of 30 or more and looked freshly fired.Same with 38 or 45acp brass. It's not worth the risks or wasting powder.
That one you didn’t know what it came out of is a G3, or HK91. Or a variant of them at least. It has a fluted chamber because the gas system is different. Edit: Actually I’m wrong, I thought that first round was .308. Being 5.56 it’s probably a cetme L or G36c maybe? I know the cetme has a civilian variant not sure on the HK
@@DummyRound same to you man! I’m in the process of building a G3 Right now, bought both the Cetme Kit and my dad gave me G3 parts kit. But I always wanted to do the .308 one. Just getting into reloading and picked up a bunch of bent brass. Good info in the video man
That's a great idea, I might have to do something like that. I'll have to come up with a way to keep it consistent for each reloading. Should I do some of bubbas pissin hot hand loads to get there fast, or something milder to see how long they last?
@@DummyRound you could do both I guess, a short term test with BPHL's at 556 pressure and then a long term test with mild loads for the winner to see just how long it lasts. That could be a long term joke like, "hey it's 5 years later and the lake city brass is still going stronk" lol. Maybe even anneal the necks every now and then. The possibilities are endless my friend.
Yup, my PTR91 leaves the same marks, all delayed blowback roll lock systems have fluted chambers. Surprise he’s able to reload that. Mine chews the necks unmercifully.
They sized pretty easily, and the lines from the fluting smooth out almost completely. It would be interesting to see how many times one of those could get reloaded, if the neck and case head didn't get demolished first. Thanks for watching brother 👍🇺🇸👊
@@DummyRound Yeah from what I've read some ppl say no way, other have said they've gotten 3 to 4 reloads out of em. Good stuff! Awesome that you got a reload out of them.
They all survived. I have a results video from the range I can't find the link to right now with crappy service. It should pop up in the last 20 seconds of this video. Thanks 👊
@@DummyRound yes. Every time I pick em up. I look, feel , wonder, then run em through the process or chuck some in scrap can! Every one, & that’s after they come out of my 3 different cleaning tumblers. Not bragging, I have 7 reloading units & work stations. My hobby went a little western wild!!!
