Woah, that's so weird that others are encountering feeding issues with the Talon mag - maybe I got lucky with my model cuz it has fired practically flawlessly during my testing. Incredible review Luke!
@@LordDraconical Doing cool stuff!? That's great! So are many others, myself included! Yay! Oh yes, you are right, there are others and in some cases, much more thorough. Fix that upside down scar on your SBL yet? Have a great, cool day bro👍
FoamBlast found a solution for the talon mag issues, you need to cut out a piece of the pusher track that is the same length as the talon feed lips. The talon mag is squeezing the pusher, causing more friction than it can handle. It happens with Talons because of their tight feed lips.
I love the review but I've noticed everyone is constantly comparing it to custom blasters (which are always powered by 3s lipos) Can we not just take a step back and appreciate the fact that this is made by an actual manufacturer, an injection molded, off the counter, ready to go fly wheel blaster pulling shots at 150fps give or take on AA batteries.
And then there's the fact you can put a Lipo in this with no mods required. Super nice for even people who want better performance without permanently messing with the blaster
I absolutely LOVE how thorough this review is. I would love a one stop mod shop and a one channel view blaster review. Keep up the great work and thank you for everything you have done for us and the hobby/profession.
The rubberized buttstock pad and grip are a great touch! I just rubberized the grips and buttstock of my Nexus and it's seriously my favorite blaster now. Also, Dart Zone is EVERYTHING Nerf isn't. They've actually paid attention to the customers and reviews of their products and built upon them. Lovely.
At this point, the only mod I'd find myself doing is the cuts to the pusher gray cage to make it take Talons, and a flywheel swap. Beyond that, the blaster's FPS and even rate of fire is fine for me, since 3DPS is good for a "cruise control" use compared to flat out being a dart hose like my Auto Stryfe and Rapidstrike are
This has some nice bells and whistles on it... Including under the pre-installed AA battery tray hiding the nice surprise of... it comes pre-wired for LiPo. All you need to do is remove one screw and unhook the lead going to the battery tray from the yellow plug under the tray and plug your LiPo in. I'm thinking of picking one up, and my last pickup was my Strongarm, ages ago, which my nephew now has and uses.
Great video. I think modders are gonna mod no matter how good a blaster is out of the box and at the end of the day that thing is still wicked sweet. Keep up the great work.
I just realized at about 6:04 he said that the mk3 had o rings lol I know he meant mk1 or mk1.1 but I just thought it was funny. I was like wait what? This IS the mk3 😂 great video though and keep up the good work!
the long darts auto thing is not a bug, is a feature! hyper burst on nerf! actually, this is not a joke? imagine if by the way it fails, they modified it a little so always in auto it shots 2 times, that would increase the rpm, and come out, blaster hyper burst, that would be crazy and very cool
adding barbs on the back of a magazine will allow the round go forward but not backwards as easily, this can be added to the molding on any new magazine and people can do it.
Hopefully all it will take to fix both feed issues is a redesign of the pusher. I don’t care about long darts for this blaster either, but all my short dart mags are talons, so that’s a problem. It’s gonna be a wait and see situation till this gets fixed. Thank you for the detailed review. Edit: and already we have a non-destructive solution. I love this community.
Just as I thought, you are better off with a heavily modded rapidstrike. Short darts and adaptors for flywheels often cause feed/compatibility issues from my experience so I think they did well to get this to work to some degree in my opinion.
This blaster definitely seems geared more towards people like myself that are new to the hobby, and want a blaster that at least seems pretty easy (compared to other blasters I’ve seen) to customise or mod out of the box and starts with a reasonably higher velocity compared to regular nerf blaster
Hej here comes a theory on how to fix the issue (talon); I believe the chamfer on the pusher is the problem. It allows the dart to travel too far up when the pusher is retracting. So far in fact that it (the dart) clears the back wall of the mag while the pusher still has contact with it. The friction of the pusher then manages to pull the dart way back. You could try to reduce the chamfer by attaching a 3d printed wedge.
That is a red dot sight, and like all other red dots, it's a reflex sight. Holographic sights differ from reflex, and by association red dots, in that they use holographic grating to project the reticle in a different location than the sight itself. The main benefit of holographic sights is that the reticle and sight picture are in focus at the same time because the reticle can be projected downrange so your eyes focusing on the sight picture don't have a large distance between the reticle and the sight picture.
@@Jpeg.g I know I was one of the few people that knew Dart Zone was going to sneak in lipo compatibility onto us everyone else was complaining about the double a batteries but I knew they would keep the modders in mind
Great review! definitely seems like a promising blaster for people newer to the hobby. unfortunately at the price point and with the talon issues i can't see myself buying one. That buffer tube type stock is definitely not my favorite either really don't like the fact that you still have a big chunk sticking out even if you remove the stock. Definitely a solid option overall though.
The problems with Talon mags is not the shape of the too of the mag, not the blaster, it's the spring tension which is higher than in any other mag in the market!
Not working with Talon Mags is pretty bad, somewhat of a nerf... I will wait before buying this to make sure it works reliably with the talons since I have so many
No worries, as simply making cuts on the lips of the pusher cage will remove the plastic that squeezes Talons and thus results in the unreliability. It'll then be able to use all half lengths without a hitch!
For those wondering about the feed issue, the lovely ladies at Foamblast already solved it with some simple internal shell cutting. Still an unfortunate oversight.
Do you know if a NYX cage will fit with the howler wheels? Also what motors could you use that don't make that high pitch screech when spinning at full speed?
The best nimh AA cells are eneloop pros or ikea ladda 2450mah(rebranded eneloops but tons cheaper!) nimh or lipo for the win. I prefer NIMH cells because i can reuse them on other things and they are more environment friendly(alkaline are just the worst batteries to use on anything)
Nerf: no! Our blasters are perfect! You are not allowed to modify them, they are perfect as is! Dart Zone: yeah so we took your advice and integrated all these features, and if it's not quite your style we also added features to make it very easy to make our blaster more your speed!
Thinking of going the 3 IMR-5 dummy route to power mine mainly because I don't really want to mess around with lipo's in my apartment. What IMR specs should I be shopping for with this config, because I noticed the numbers differ from each battery?
I'm still getting one of these, a double fire in full auto is fine, the talon issue was fixed by foam blast. GRANTED I don't really own any talons, but plan on buying those or the Tachi for my load out. Idk Hey if you make a bigger battery door, are you going to make it two pieces so it has the similar red and black pattern? Love the review, super detailed! And excited to get one of these
We'll go over Talon compatibility improvements in more detail bin our next video! As for the extended battery door, the black panel actually clips out. If we can manage it, there might be a way to swap that panel into the extended battery door… More to come later!
@@outofdarts okie dokie, I'm excited!!!! Btw my stryfe I modded with help from you guys over emails came out great!!!! All the parts you sold me are top notch!!!!
So which lipos will work? I’m thinking about making the jump to lipos for this one. I just wanna make sure I can get one that will definitely work in the MK3, maybe the spectrum, and some other stuff. Thanks
The 3 that fit without an extended battery door are linked in the description, though you could fit most 3S batteries with the extended battery door (also available with the link in the description).
Magazine Compatibility from what I can tell, Ironically the MK3 is not compatible with Workers "for flywheel" style magazine adapters -the ones with the high rear section; blocks the dart pusher. Granted I only have 1 of those to base this on; but your shop does carry many others, can you check and comment on this?
@@outofdarts The Specific one I have, is the Angled Talon 'For Flywheel' Adapter. The tall backside of the adapter seems to block the pusher from moving forward enough.
@@adriansue8955 Oh! I actually don't think we tried the angled flywheeler adapter. The standard springer variant of the angled talon adapter would probably work better. The forward-sitting flywheeler adapter is meant for builds where there isn't full pusher travel -- which was 100% of the builds until the Mk-3 came along!
@@outofdarts I guess in general, the MK3 is better to use with "for Springer" variants? its distinct long pusher is more similar to a springer bolt than to pre-existing flywheelers, when it comes to compatibility?
I know the hobby standard is to use 3S LiPos but is there a reason you couldn’t put a 4S LiPo in this? Just wondering if there is a way to increase the half length FPS.
You could technically put a 4s LiPo in this, but with the PTC in, it wouldn't give you better performance. And if you remove the PTC, you're pretty much asking to burn out the motors (which are probably only rated for 3s levels of voltages).
Does adding one of the mag extenders you sell help to lengthen the spring and thereby reduce the spring pressure and alleviate the problematic talon symptoms?
@@raymondthewoz8879 in my league, you are chronoed and are not allowed for any shots to hit 130 or above. So mid 120s + standard deviation may be a lil too much.
Off topic: Anyone have suggestions for deyellowing old nerf blasters? I hear it's caused by a flame retartant chemical in the plastic, and that bleach and hydrogen peroxide can help.
What sort of fire rate does this thing’s full auto pull on 2s? Personally, I rly like the rof on 3s but I want to use this in hvz, so a 2s will be necessary to tune down the power a bit
We didn't test ROF on 2S at the time, but I imagine it would be 1-2 darts per second without any modifications to the gears or motors (assuming ⅔ of 3S ROF performance).
We tested with the High-drain Nitecore IMRs we sell on the shop! We also have a fix that doesn't require cutting into the blaster. More to come in a mod highlights video.
the shell just looks like it could fit 2 stages of flywheels the bulge on the side just feels big enough if there is enough space for 2 cages and there is definitely a large enough battery tray to fit multiple batteries if its just a little wider
@@outofdarts What is purpose of the glue stick you sell? but anyways, I regret looking at the reviews. I was just looking for a way to improve my friend's flywheel blaster :(
I was a little let down the automatic fire wasn't as fast as my Rapidstrike even on LiPos, but I'm sure that could be improved, and realistically, I don't exactly need this blaster since I have access to modded blasters already. However my Rapidstrike can't fire two dart types and I haven't found any mods for it, so I'm immediately jealous so far.
