Is Tudor Still The Best At Dive Watches Under $5000 in 2022?: Black Bay 58, Pelagos & Submariner

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Following my recent review of the most important releases of 2021, a comment on the video raised a really great question: Is Tudor still the best Swiss made automatic diver under $5000 in 2022? The Fortis Marinemaster, with essentially the same movement as the Tudor, costs more. So why do I consider it a good value? What are the differences between Tudor and Fortis? What affects value when it comes to watches of this pedigree? How has the market changed with the ever-rising prices of its bigger brother brand Rolex, and stiffer competition from Omega and their Seamasters, as well as competition from brands like Fortis, though smaller, but with just as much heritage? Does this threaten Tudor's reign and dominance in this price range? Join me as I borrow a contemporary Tudor Pelagos and a Black Bay 58 in blue, and compare them with my own vintage Tudor Submariner (79090) to find out the answer to all these questions and more, in this Tudor-rific special episode.
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@dannyg6592 2 года назад

Your clever switching of the BB58 for Bond's four digit Sub in the Goldfinger opening says it all. The Tudor feels very much like a proper Bond watch - a robust, extremely high quality, aesthetically pleasing and stylish tool watch. Every time I strap on my BB58, I can see and feel the DNA and provenance it has acquired from its ancestors in the Rolex and Tudor family. It is a brilliant watch.

@oscarosullivan4513 2 года назад

They are a grail for me

@quetz666 Год назад

Tudor watches aren't robust and definitely not extremely hight quality. They are very nice looking watches these days with great marketing and fair prices. Nothing more.

@superbowlsaints74 2 года назад

I just bought a 41mm Tudor black bay last month. I'm having a hard time not wearing it every day. I just don't care for the style of Fortis watches but can still appreciate he history and value. Speaking of value. I bought my son a Squale 1545... He opted for a watch vs senior ring which absolutely filled me with joy. $540 from Longisland watches. What a great watch for the price. I've owned a few Steinharts and a lorier and I have to say... Love Squlae. I see one in my future.

@trickiwoo3573 2 года назад

Hard not to like the Squale 1545. Bought the Maxi and broke down and bought the Militaire 3 months later. You will not regret.

@blacktalon7030 2 года назад

Wish Tudor would bring back the Submariner at the price that it is really worth: under 4k

@gavinBsussex 2 года назад

Me too, but they probably couldn't cope with the demand. Tudor can't make enough BB chronos as it is, so can you imagine the demand for a 4k or 5k 40mm Tudor Submariner? It would be crazy and would probably bite hard into the increasing prices of the gray Market that Rolex are going for with their own Sub. Would be great though if they did a Tudor Sub..... I would sign up for one for sure.

@lonewolfemcquade8133 2 года назад

I agree 👍 but they won't because it would disrupt the Black bay line and I doubt Tudor would do that but a Tudor Submariner with no faux rivets or faux lume would be greatly appreciated

@jonathanmiles897 2 года назад

It won't happen. Tudor trying to distance itself from Rolex.

@aleksandersiemaszko6027 2 года назад

They did bring it back in a new flavour. It’s called Black Bay 58.

@simongander3902 2 года назад

Thanks for the video my good chap. It’s refreshing not to be told what’s good or not, what to buy or not to buy, but rather, to be educated so as to make an informed decision. And even more, to be inspired to continue the learning and keep diving down that rabbit hole. Good stuff sir.

@JustinCorc 2 года назад

I appreciate your videos. It's a nice break from the realities of the world and news. Keep them coming :)

@Chris_yt007 2 года назад

After watching that intro, I believe Tudor would be a great new bond watch. The black bay has the Bond vibe to it, especially with a nato strap.

@Not-a-bot222 2 года назад

Huge bond fan and I had to do a double take. Clever move TGV, great bud as always!

@justplainlawr 2 года назад

Perpetually Rolex Jr., I highly doubt Barbara Broccoli would ever allow the Bond franchise to awarded to Turdor

@oscarosullivan4513 2 года назад

I think in these times of economic hardship a citizen NY-0040 would make a great bond watch

@ANM149 2 года назад

I think the new bond needs to dress a little more modern and like some of the craig outfits more function over style I would think in more business casual and in that scenario Hamilton, longiness and tissot could be a good bond watch, are from the same group of omega and can sell a lot of watches to the middle class.

@oscarosullivan4513 2 года назад

@@ANM149 I agree more raid gear and long arms I.E assault rifles. Though Craig had changed bonds dress. Think what was worn in the first part of Casino Royale

@m.e.p.r 2 года назад

Bringing a little joy to our Sunday nights. Great vid as always!!

@theurbangentry 2 года назад

Thank you so much, have a great week ahead! Best regards, TGV

@botezsorinconstantin 2 года назад

Thank you TGV for this nice video, like always! 🙏🥂

@stevepapa 2 года назад

Great video T! Learning more about this hobby daily thanks to content like this!

@marklittle5615 4 месяца назад

Always great to come back to older videos. Keep up the high quality content TVG! What is the intro song!

@LuckyJack99 2 года назад

As always - another brilliant vid mate ! Plus - enjoyed the “tangent” commentary - cheers !

@bsp 2 года назад

Always a great day when TGV uploads. That Tudor sub of yours really is beautiful. You make a very compelling argument for the value of Fortis. The aesthetics just don't do it for me personally, or maybe I'm biased (he says while wearing a bb58). Thanks for the awesome content.

@jorgequinteros2144 2 года назад

Great video. Thank you

@thewatchidiot 2 года назад

There's definitely value in having something different that makes you smile bc in the end watches are worn in real life and not on paper! I have my beloved Pelagos, a BB58 Blue and a BB58 925 and while the BB58 blue might be the best watch for me on paper (clean aesthetic / incredible proportions), its the one thats going to be sold most likely! So i guess it depends on the individual whether or not the history and great/unique design of the fortis is worth the price vs a tudor. Of course, the Pelagos and 925 are amazing beyond the stats on paper, but having an accurate in house movement with a 70 hour power reserve adds even more to their respective value propositions. Of course I might be a bit biased lol

@mantyisbad 2 года назад

Another great video!! Thanks

@cuckooforwatches382 2 года назад

Another stellar video that's well presented and researched. I love Tudor and would love to add one to my personal collection someday.

@hansobermann4871 2 года назад

Thank you TGV for your great show! Stay healthy everybody. Greetings from Munich. Compliments for Intro and sound effects.

@theurbangentry 2 года назад

Thank you my friend, I hope you are well and safe too. Best regards, TGV

@resjon7981 2 года назад

Pound for pound the sports diver style Tudors are very hard to beat. My preference are the BB58s and the Pelagos.

@stephenscharf6293 2 года назад

Nope, sorry. Hey, I love both the BBs and the Pelagos, and own an ETA Tudor.BB Blue. But, they are not as good a watch as a Sinn EZM3. This is based on 7 years experience owning and servicing both.

@resjon7981 2 года назад

@@stephenscharf6293 Leave it to the vote, 30 thumbs up says a lot, and remember I said hard to beat. There is more to a watch than just build quality. Monta make some very high quality pieces as well but still there is something missing as an example. I just had a quick look at a Sinn EZM3 and yes it looks appealing but not for me I will stick with my Tudors. I have two BB58s the black and the blue and recently sold my BB36 due to not wearing it enough, but the BB58s are keepers for sure unless Putin invades!

@oscarosullivan4513 2 года назад

Both Sinn and Tudor are lovely

@fifa3 2 года назад

I'd pick the BB58 and the FXD

@PaperOverPusy 2 года назад

Tudor is my first love, I’m a dive watch fan and Tudor has perfected the dive watch in my opinion. Great product for the money by far and is respected by watch lovers and enthusiasts. I own the black bay heritage red bezel smiley dial and black bay heritage bronze with no regrets.

@danielfuller1202 2 года назад

Another great video TGV, honest and to the point. I love the way you strip it all back to the nuts and bolts. It’s not just about the name on that watch face. You have opened my eyes to the Fortis of this world as well as Yema, I could go on. A dive watch is always high on any collectors list and we take note and respect your reviews on the time pieces in your video’s. Great to have the comparisons. Toodle-pip

@m.l.679 2 года назад

Thank you for this effort of synthesis and precision of thought. I have evolved and learned so much since I starting following your channel (and Mark from Long Island). Now I want to discover Fortis. In the end, I think this is what RU-vid should be. Not a collection of 3min ''unboxing'' video. Thank you again. Untill the next episode! Milles mercis de Montréal! Chapeau!

@TheRunningManZ 2 года назад

Mum get the camera! I made it into a TGV vid!!!!! ;)

@theurbangentry 2 года назад

🙌🙌🙌🙌 Thank you again my friend for the contribution. Best regards, TGV

@TheRunningManZ 2 года назад

@@theurbangentry posted before I watched the video. Enjoyed the extra look into the category. Just wanna raise one point (ish). You’re absolutely right, an end user may not have the experience to truly talk about how much a watch costs to make and how much it should cost. But the reality it’s not really for us to concern ourselves with entirely. Perception of value as always is individual. Most of us are end users of these watches, most of us are collectors of the finished articles. We can know a little about movements etc. But our value will be opinion based on all sorts of factors as you said in the video. But also from comparing a watch and it’s specs against the market and similar products. I feel like it’s stretching just a touch to justify the cost difference here. Yes Tudor are the little brother of a bigger company. I can see that to some extent. As a watch buyer, it’s very hard to overlook that Tudor will guarantee your watch for 5 years and Fortis only guarantee it for 2. It’s the same movement, they need to offer more than “we make less and so you pay more and get less warranty too.” In order to compete IMO. I think the 5 warranty is a must if you’re going to charge more for the same movement personally. Of course they are nice watches and people should buy what appeals to them. But comparing like for like it’s hard to justify personally even after the video. If you were recommending someone buy one of these as their only watch, I think you’d steer them to the Tudor and the longer warranty and nicely made, solid bracelets etc. Of course you did conclude the same thing effectively regarding Tudor under $5k. Tbf though, I’m not really in the market for either right now. Thanks for the vid!!!

@garethpearce5266 2 года назад

I own the Navy 58. I lapped up the hype, obsessed over it for months, patiently waited for my turn on the AD list, then eventually got one. Was it worth the wait, and the hype? Absolutely. Beautiful watch, still my favourite. Would I like a Pelagos as well? Yep. For me, as a Welshman, it’s having a Welsh name on my watch. I know that’s ridiculous. But old Hans did name the brand after the Tudor dynasty, and old Harry VII was a Welshman 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 So there, that’s my ludicrous reason for loving Tudor. 😃👍🏻 I’d love to see the new OO7 sport a Tudor.

@flatearthbear4077 2 года назад

So many watches ...so little time. Thank you for shedding light on lesser known but historically and presently relevant brands. While i own several timepieces it is only quite recently that i have taken an interest in the history quality craftsmanship and dare i say artistry of the wrist and pocket watch. Your efforts and presentations are most appreciated and in part responsible for my awakening and for that i thank you !

@skipcampbell239 2 года назад

what a fantastic video ,thanks !

@summerlinpublic5673 2 года назад

Great vid TGV!

@gluon8760 2 года назад

What a great piece of content. 11/10

@daviddicicco195 2 года назад

So glad you covered this topic, and really enjoyed your perspective as always. It’s evident to me that you’re going to be adding the marine master sooner than later. I will be happy if you do, because for once I would have acquired a watch TGV covered before seeing a TGV video on it. Too many times it has been the other way around for me 😂 (Flighty, Sarbs, Sinn 104, the list goes on)

@johnemerson2221 2 года назад

Thank you for another informative and very enjoyable episode! Its my way of getting a little education on horological matters.

@dedrickcollins2819 2 года назад

Hi I enjoy all your videos, I was wondering If you could help me out on where you get those books on the history on watches I would love to read through something like that

@micnolmadtube 2 года назад

Simply one of the coolest channels and that intro is just SO GOOD!

@theurbangentry 2 года назад

Thank you so much Michael, I deeply appreciate it. You made my day 🙏😎 Best regards, TGV

@RossWristWatchLove 2 года назад

Great video!

@alexm2113 2 года назад

This is one of your best videos, TGV. I love how you took this topic of value head on. I think that value is definitely a perception, and as you said in the video, something someone else experiences with a Tudor (or other brand for that matter) might result in flipping the value around completely. Also for the record, I definitely think James Bond should have worn a Tudor. The British link is much more apparent with Tudor, in my opinion.

@enriqueparedespinel1694 2 года назад

Great video.

@JP-dn5lk 2 года назад

Excellent content as usual TGV. I can see you have the Squale 1521 back, love it! All best, Juan

@theurbangentry 2 года назад

Haha, indeed, I will be making a video on it before the ned of this money, it's a very special reunion. Thank you JP. Best regards, TGV

@anibaluriarte3676 2 года назад

Excellent video T

@davidperkins605 2 года назад

Hi TGV, that was a great review, I purchased a BB58 39mm heritage back in November, and its quite simply amazing, thanks for advice before pulling the trigger, kind regards Dave.

@acefire6422 2 года назад

Great vid TGV, hi from the UK👍 What is the piece of music you use for your current intro please? I really like it.

@Tyler-sl6vg 2 года назад

I was waiting for 4k from TGV. Intro looks f'in rad.

@ericohlsson6506 Год назад

Condolences on the passing of the Queen, TGV. Now with Tudor, the Pelagos 39- a new favorite. All the best regards-

@thisisnix 2 года назад

I always appreciate how informative your watch videos are TGV, I enjoy hearing about brand history and impact on culture. Thank you.

@theurbangentry 2 года назад

Thank you so much, it motives me endlessly to hear that. Onwards and upwards! Best regards, TGV

@anthonydaley278 2 года назад

Seiko prospect LX limited spring dive is much more accurate it’s around the same money and Seiko have been going from around the 1890s

@kelorednaxela Год назад

10:00 @TGV, what is the watch with the black bezel and dark blue dial on the second winder from top on your right? It looks awesome!

@carguy3645 2 года назад

I am a very proud owner of a Fortis Chronograph Marinemaster and absolutely love the watch. Amazing history.

@brettnicholas3190 2 года назад

Well done!!!

@petershallis2294 2 года назад

I like pretty much everything but I’ve always had a soft spot for Oris.

@Zotrax1946 2 года назад

I have a blue Pelagos and I’m very much satisfied with it! You know, whenever I get to mention I have a watch collection (not very often..) most people immediately respond with “(do) you have a Rolex?”, and I reflexively answer “NO. And I won’t wear one”. And That recurring question is part of what drives me way away from Rolex. Right after me answering like that, the conversation just dies off… sometimes there are polite people who will ask one or two follow up questions.. and once in a Gazilion years it will actually interests someone and I’ll be like a child who found a friend that really likes the same favorite toy🤗.

@tynannida9642 2 года назад

I’ve had a couple black bays and a pelagos, but I keep coming back to Seiko

@chrishemming9976 2 года назад

I have one but my omega seamaster 300 gives me so much more fizz than the Tudor. I can’t get over the fact there’s no date and the engraved waves on the dial of the omega is so god damn beautiful!

@theurbangentry 2 года назад

I don't blame you, Omega is the greater brand, I will always have a special place in my hear for the Bond era 300, it was my first luxury watch and still gives me the thrills every time I see one. Wear it in good health my friend. Thank you Chris. Best regards, TGV

@ltrev1979 2 года назад

I actually am not a fan of the waves, and I kinda like the lack of date. the size makes the bb58 my fav. I have a planet ocean and the bb58, i havent worn the omega since i go the tudor

@chrishemming9976 2 года назад

@@ltrev1979 fair enough! The slimness of the bb58 is appealing and think it would work nice under a shirt as well as casually

@gervers 2 года назад

Great subject and well thought out. The only true rival I could come up with would be the Oris Aquis 400 Caliber? Doesn’t have the history of Tudor but it’s a fine Swiss built timepiece that has its own style? Have a great week TGV and everyone

@timelesssneakersandwatches 2 года назад

What a great video brotha! That intro was epic 😂👏👏. No doubt that both brands resonate with watch enthusiast in different ways. I agree, it comes down to a connection you find. The power of Rolex no doubt has a HUGE! impact and influence when it comes to Tudor.

@RedwoodAggie 2 года назад

Tudor's doing a smashing job the last half decade or so, and they have not one, but 4 candidates for my big milestone birthday watch purchase this year. I thought the Pelagos would be too thick, but then I put it on the wrist (7-1/4"/18.4cm) and it wore beautifully. I don't know if it's the Helium escape valve, combined with the light weight of the Titanium, but it doesn't seem as thick as the specs. The BB GMT also wears a bit better than the regular BB41, due to a slight upturn on the bottom of the sides of the case vs. the regular BB. I worry the BB58 would be too small feeling (I have watches that size, but no divers that small). However, I've only gotten to try them on strap, not the bracelet. I've not seen the new Chrono in person, but the black dial looks great in photos. I think Tudor has more models that appeal to me than Rolex. I think I am just more of a tool watch/less blingy type of guy, though I would take an Explorer II in a heartbeat. I think the new Fortis MarineMaster 40mm is quite nice, and I hope that sells well for them.

@wisamal-hakim5531 2 года назад

Thanks for this. I’ve only been in this game for a year but I’ve watched your channel from the start and you consistently champion the lesser known brands which often have wonderful time pieces that are worth considering. I’m currently looking for a luxury tool watch and deciding between a black bay 58, speedmaster, IWC mark XVIII and because of you seriously considering a fortis F43 flieger. Please keep up the moral compass and work ethic

@pintopaulo10 2 года назад

Great video! Saludos Tristano!

@theurbangentry 2 года назад

Thank you Paulo! Best regards, TGV

@dgftw 2 года назад

Hey TGV, Great video! I’ve been looking for that Fifty Watches that changed the World book with no luck. Any suggestions? Thanks

@Alex-px2mb 2 года назад

Both brands are so far out of my current price range that some would think I have no interest in them but once again your method of exposition and beautiful arrangement enticed me to watch the whole video. I prefer the Tudors. I would be thrilled to find something from either brand sitting on my desk, though! The point is that there are real differences to consider, and now if the subject comes up I have something hopefully to contribute.

@oOoScarecrow31oOo 2 года назад

Hum, I like the Black Bay on Sean Connery’s wrist. 😎 Nice evolution !... and video editing. 😉

@papatriot9882 2 года назад

A lot of good options from Tudor and I’ve had a number come and go. The Pelagos is a great dive watch, the Black Bay GMT is great for a true GMT watch at the price, the under recognized P01 I think may be a sleeper value once discontinued and even the 1926 line is great from a value perspective.

@mattys1467 2 года назад

For me the aesthetic of the Fortis range simply appeals more. I also greatly appreciate their strong history and independence. Another great documentary review 👏

@malikknows3510 2 года назад

This is a great video, and long overdue, imho. Value is a huge issue for most of us and I appreciate your hitting it head on. “Knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing,” is indeed an impoverished way to view life, yet balanced considerations of price and value are important. Thank you.

@TheOwlGuy777 2 года назад

I bought the Breitling Superocean Heritage II because it sports the Tudor 5612 movement at only 2/3 the price. Yes, the Breitling can be had for around $3500.

@diavalus 2 года назад

These Breitling watches are really good and Breitling made a good decision to equip them with the Tudor movement. Pure joy for a decent price.

@anthonydaley278 2 года назад

I have the green dial breitling superocean heritage II , great watch?

@jazzman5598 Год назад

When I research a watch in which I have some interest I stop by UG Channel 1st and have purchased several watches based on your recommendation TGV. Thanks for what and how you impact our community!

@ddsindpls 2 года назад

Very interesting that you mention Moyer Jewelers. I live in Indianapolis and they are up on the north side in Carmel, IN.

@ExpeditedProductions 2 года назад

Very slick editing of Goldfinger!

@danijelkomljeno3317 2 года назад

Great reviwe Last year i picked up a Tudor GMT and Last week i got the Special Harrods Edition witch is my Favorit watch !! nice greethings from Vienna

@coryames1170 2 года назад

For me, Casio still makes the best dive watch. What with the Duro and everything lol. Have a good one Tristano.

@flaS2k 2 года назад

Another great video. I do have a question about my Tudor Heritage’s value. Do you think it will ever gain? Perhaps something to hold on to give to my son later? Or just enjoy it now and wear it without hesitation? Thank you in advance.

@cowboyswami2017 2 года назад

Great video! I believe though the Sinn u2(tegemented submarine steel)is way more rugged than the Tudor for the price. But I love both watches & both are in my top 3 favorites.

@davefliege3706 2 года назад

Last year I got my oris aquis Green Dial 43.5 mm and I Love it!!!

@chumpey 2 года назад

Cracking, spiffing, joyous and ALL of the positive adjectives!!

@theurbangentry 2 года назад

Grazie fratello!!!! 😎🥂 T.

@williamboystak3499 2 года назад

What’s your background song behind your closing comments?

@ericl755 2 года назад

IMHO Pelagos is the best diver of the market of modern luxury watches: the balance of quality with its mvt, case, bracelet, lums, bezel.

@Javi_C 2 года назад

Best way to end a Sunday!

@felixbrochet4424 2 года назад

Love the content, thank you for providing your thoughts on the brand. Could you share your thoughts on the Royal with us?

@Johnny641 2 года назад

Although I don't own one, I would argue the Pelagos is actually one of the best dive watches on the market period (specs wise). The problem is it has very limited appeal due to the styling. Although it is a true tool design, it is at price point where it won't be used as such and I think that's why it doesn't sell that well. This coupled with Tudor as brand is still not a well known name to the lay person IMHO which is actually who luxury watches are marketed towards.

@theurbangentry 2 года назад

I can't fault you there, specs alone, design, heritage, actually performance, it has it all. Great comment, thank you, Best regards, TGV

@suncity22001 2 года назад

@@theurbangentry did you read that, it’s a rubbish comment, full of bs and contradiction

@theurbangentry 2 года назад

Yes I did, thanks 👍

@Johnny641 2 года назад

@@suncity22001 Hi buddy , what is BS and contracdiction ? I actually like the Pelagos which I thought made clear in my comment.

@suncity22001 2 года назад

@@Johnny641 sorry I was just bein an asshole.

@jayblake7005 2 года назад

Nice vid , Have to say i like every watch featured ,Personally the mk1 ETA Pelagos is a very good proposition

@twotubefamily9323 2 года назад

Mon Amie , impeccable felicitations , the choice of the gentleman through the generations

@heikowallauer 2 года назад

Good evening TGV, great topic, Divers are always more than welcome. And we have a great selection out there from reputable brands. Breitling Superocean Heritage, Longines Hydroconquqest, Sinn U1 or U50, the Seikos. But the Tudor Divers are very much unbeaten when it comes to style and heritage. The Glashütte Original SeaQ is over $5.000, but that Diver I is just perfect. Have a great weekend! Best regards!

@nicholasobertelli2501 2 года назад

How do u feel about the 58 Harrod's green bezel thanks

@longbow0728 2 года назад

Omega Seamaster is pretty compelling buy under 5k as well. I did see one on the wrist of a British Army Sniper who turned out to be a watch geek like myself when I was deployed. We geeked out over each others watchs (his a Pelagos mine a MkII Paradive.

@dspserpico 2 года назад

He wore the Seamaster while deployed?

@longbow0728 2 года назад

@@dspserpico No, the Tudor.

@danno8451 2 года назад

Is the Facebook group dead? Been pending there for two weeks now. Love your channel 😁

@MrRoyck10 2 года назад

Tudor is an excellent brand and extremely good value, in some cases the price of a Tudor makes it my preferred option over Rolex. As an owner of both brand Tudor pips Rolex mainly in the entry level Swiss luxury watches due to the premium and unwarranted waiting period. Nice productionTGB.

@r0ky_M 2 года назад

Blackbays with common as dirt ETA calibres are not great value, in fact they are Grossly overpriced compared to the plethora of other ETA powered watches.

@kbarnbrook4993 Год назад

@@r0ky_M BB aren't fitted with ETA'S.

@r0ky_M Год назад

@@kbarnbrook4993 Then you have something to learn about BB.

@davemassa3560 2 года назад

Happy to see this. Just finished watching a 2020 Guy Richie movie called the Gentleman. If you have not seen it yet TGV I highly recommend it 👍 Happy Sunday wishing you a prosperous week ahead

@wescobts 2 года назад

Although never have seen a Fortis in the metal, i have seen the Tudors in the metal, there are amazing. These two watch brands are really well made, engineered, and have history which should satisfy any watch enthusiasts. I feel purchasing watches at this level, i believe you will get your money's worth. I think either brand you could have on your wrist for decades and either watch will prove it's worth. So i say go and purchase at the authorized dealer, grin and bear it when they hand you the bill, and begin your journey with your "forever watch" .

@Brajin1 2 года назад

Great video, i love my Blue Pelagos and my Black bay. The Pelagos has the modern tool’sh vibe. The black bay that classic style. Have you ever checked out Bremont watches? This would be a good one to have on the channel.

@chi-towncalifornia5916 2 года назад

Considering modern no-date Submariners are currently being scalped for 17,000 USD, I’d say 4 grand for a Black Bay 58 is quite a fair price to pay. Great video, TGV.

@TheRealMafoo 2 года назад

Sadly, AP, Patek, and Rolex sports watches are no longer luxury items. They are now commodities to be traded like stocks, and 95% of those that purchase them, could care less about horology.

@diavalus 2 года назад

@@TheRealMafoo indeed, they became speculative items.

@josemedina1983 2 года назад

Regardless of inflation and pricing, I still think for the regular consumer Glycine, Alpina, Longines and Tissot offer the best value for a swiss dive watch. Too bad few years back you could get an Oris dive watch second hand for under 1k.

@trickiwoo3573 2 года назад

Look at the GL0406.

@danielmarshall1753 2 года назад

I still cant decide, Blue or Black Pelagos? I've been pondering this for about 2 years now! Thanks for the Vid. You are a gentleman and a scholar.

@hutchman0823 2 года назад

Go black

@tendrams 2 года назад

Tudor represents quite a serious power move by Rolex to be honest. It's like Bentley to Rolls Royce with the former being perceived as more sporty and youthful and also offered (historically) at lower cost. Of course, plenty of people have entered a dealership fully intending to buy a RR but drive the Bentley home. I expect that even if Rolex were available at MSRP in ADs, plenty of people who could afford Rolex would prefer a Tudor or two. In this world where Rolexes are made of unobtainium, Tudor serves a rather important purpose for the Wilsdorf Foundation. Frankly, it even elevates Rolex to a degree and creates a weird circumstance in which a lot of people who one could imagine cross-shopping Rolex and Omega wind up cross-shopping Omega and Tudor! Kinda brilliant strategy from the crown.

@awoodfinz 2 года назад

Hey guys which one is nicer seiko tuna black vs monster black?

@jayammons3834 2 года назад

Your analysis is on point as always. The first thought I have when I see is a Tudor is “couldn’t take that wait for the real sub huh?” take care of yourself my friend, don’t work too hard.

@1466Ash 2 года назад

Hmm I have the real sub & my Bb 58 Blue arrives tomorrow can’t wait! 😜

@jayammons3834 2 года назад

@@1466Ash then I will admit I’m jealous!

@ianfrancisledesma4431 Год назад

Thanks for pointing it out..I'm liking the Fortis Marine Master in slate Grey or Blue!

@kingnhoj8551 2 года назад

Hi.. any predictions for Tudor Blackbay 58?

@markbyrum4743 2 года назад

Re: consistent styling clues - automakers are famous for this. A gradual evolution of style is usually followed versus shocking departures. The companies want customers (and non- customers) to know the brand. An example is the BMW double-kidney grill. The grill grows and shrinks - it gets fat and gets thin - but is always there! You know it's a Bimmer! Good vid. Keep at it!

@Grannn 2 года назад

Hey Tristano, I remember your old Tudor Prince Day-Date that you used to wear on the red strap. I'm not a huge fan on Gold toned watches, but for whatever reason, that combo got me hooked on the design. If I were to buy one, I'd probably go for a silver or two-toned dial. Stay safe! O&U!

@idjwatches 2 года назад

Tudor is now what rolex used to be 15 years ago with the 5 digit models like 16610 16710..

@xxxlutzify 2 года назад

With that sound for the outro you had me staring at my dw-5600 for sometime figuring out why it would suddenly beep.

@indianasunsets5738 2 года назад

Wow. Great vid. I admit I have no experience with either brand, but I do understand the economies of scale argument regarding Fortis' higher price. Its the same advantage Seiko has over many competitors. Regardless, I kind of feel the Fortis is more my style than the Tudor with the waffle dial. Very handsome machine!

@Iberian247 2 года назад

I think Swatch is upgrading Longines to fill the old Omega price point. I’ll be on the lookout for a new killer Longines diver.

@goldtoothjacko 2 года назад

T, As you know I am great fan of Tudor watches. They represent decent quality for reasonable money. Very informative video as always.... Best as always. Matthew

@aidengonzalez615 2 года назад

I love every watch in my collection. That being said, everything feels right in the world when I wear my Tudor on an MN strap. It feels as though it was simply meant to be.