ISKCON After Prabhupada’s Disappearance (1977) | George Harrison  

5 Part Rtvik series with all explanation and references: ru-vid.com/group/PLQGHF3mp1o789PKRgjtfAK9mW7irlqbVe

Why would you share this video? I am assuming that it is the voice of George Harrison who is saying that Iskcon has changed and not as good as it was at the time of Srila Prabhupaad.. he is raising doubts on Iskcon!!

@@annandbhagat To make more people aware about the deviation of ISKCON. They are not following the Final order of Prabhupada

Did you mean indradyumna Swami and BB govind Swami had not a good character? And what is proof?

@@adityathakur7831 watch the video, pictures and videos speak more than 1000 words ...

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They did in the past, that merit they had done we don’t deny, but what about present? Are they still doing good, following Prabhupada’s instructions? No!

@@ISKM108 yes they are !but I can't and I don't want to argue with Ritviks

@@auspicious422 Where is the order then? Show me where Prabhupada ordered them to start initiating as Diksha gurus. There is no such order. Last order is the july 9th letter, where the continuation of Rtvik system is presented by Prabhupada. ISKCON is not following this order, if you say they are then you are lying. Otherwise why there is Vyasapuja for the Iskcon people? There is no need to argue, either you accept the sky clear facts and Prabhupadas orders, or you disobey. Its not about our personal opinions, its about what Prabhupada Instructed. Just by closing your eyes and running away from the truth doesn't change it. And thruth will spread, false will be burned up by the truth. /////// I'm allso not a Rtvik, i'm not even initiated yet. Still i can accept the Rtvik system. It doesn't make me Rtvik represtentitive yet. I cannot give initiations on behalf of Prabhupada.

@@ISKM108 It's not rocket science it's just basic guru shishya parampara.... Srila Prabhupada had guru after him SP became Diksha guru and after SP it's his disciples who became guru that's it...why you are making it complicated

@@auspicious422 You are making the simple matter complicated by not understanding what Diksha Guru is, and you are so lazy that you don't want to study the subject. Yes certainly Srila Prabhupada intended for all to raise themselves to the uttama-adhikari platform and become diksa gurus. But in 1977 he saw that none of his disciples were ready for that. This conversation from April 22, 1977 is very instructive. In this conversation, Srila Prabhupada agrees that all of his disciples are still conditioned souls and cannot become diksa gurus yet. Later in the same conversation, he says these important words "Even if I die suddenly, you’ll be able to manage. That’s all. That I want. Manage nicely and let the movement go forward. Now arrange. Don’t go backward. Be careful." So this is yet another piece of evidence that Srila Prabhupada had already decided that the ritvik system of initiations would be instituted for after his physical departure. --- April 22, 1977 Room Conversation: --- Prabhupāda: No, you become guru, but you must be qualified first of all. Then you become. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, that kind of complaint was there. Prabhupāda: Did you know that? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, I heard that, yeah. Prabhupāda: What is the use of producing some rascal guru? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, I have studied myself and all of your disciples, and it’s clear fact that we are all conditioned souls, so we cannot be guru. Maybe one day it may be possible… Prabhupāda: Hmm. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: …but not now. Prabhupāda: Yes. I shall choose some guru. I shall say, “Now you become ācārya. You become authorized.” I am waiting for that. You become all ācārya. I retire completely. But the training must be complete. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The process of purification must be there. Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, must be there. Caitanya Mahāprabhu wants that. Āmāra ājñāya guru hañā [Cc. Madhya 7.128]. “You become guru.” [laughs] But be qualified. Little thing, strictly follower… Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Not rubber stamp. [...] Prabhupāda: Stick to our principle, and see our GBC is very alert. Then everything will go on, even I am not present. Do that. That is my request. Whatever little I have taught you, follow that, and nobody will be aggrieved. No māyā will touch you. Now Kṛṣṇa has given us, and there will be no scarcity of money. You print book and sell. So everything is there. We have got good shelter all over the world. We have got income. You stick to our principles, follow the… Even if I die suddenly, you’ll be able to manage. That’s all. That I want. Manage nicely and let the movement go forward. Now arrange. Don’t go backward. Be careful. Āpani ācari prabhu jīveri śikṣāya.

bro acharya ki padavi pana itta asan nahi hota voh great the but acharya naji the

@@cursedtyrany8199 ofcourse Srila Prabhupad ji was great ACHARYA...

​@@verma8183 not sila hagupad

His every word is perfect, every single word is perfect! So far i found Srila Prabhupada's every single word was unique. Everything is fresh! Everything is new and alive.

Hagupad

Not really you once visit iskcon ,i don't know about foreigners but till now iskcon is having serious,sincere devotees

​@@user-uv1bh3ij6sAll of them aren't sincere and serious I would agree on around 20% for sure for foreign ones, Indians maybe 60%.

Hare Kṛṣṇa, please accept my humble obeisances All glories to Srila Prabhupada 🙏 These videos give answers to you: Difference between ISKM and ISKCON: ru-vid.comF-rfr7vrpMc?feature=share ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jUz5VB-HNng.html Are some of ISKCON Gurus worth following?: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1bPN6ftod50.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WO3vt2OaDG8.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-E6L6_ytEHyE.html

@@ISKM108 don't spread misconceptions to promote your organisation. If you want to progress then do something creative of your own

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BdAsvtApb8w.html 12mins go 14.30min, George speaks about Iskcon Gurus

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Hare Krishna Prabhu please accept my humble obeisances all glories to Srila Prabhupad and vaishnavas. Prabhu you can get in touch with devotees in ISKM and you can serve Srila Prabhupada in the right way

The bodily features doesn't matter,, and anyone can become a swami by Lord's mercy.. And all I have seen ISKM mostly doing blasphemy,, don't ever criticise Vaishanva's whether he fell down or not..

@@nitaipadakamala2459 there is afiffetence between blasphemy and pointing out the wrongs so that it does not continue ISKM has never done any personal insults only using sastra they say the right thing and calling a spade a spade is not vaishnav aparadh

But This is also Sure that in Ritvik ISKCON Mandirs also has Politics and Corruption where ever there is money there is greed and as in this Short George Harrison tell " there is good and bad too every where " this goes same in Spirituality also there is Charges on Nityanand das who Propagated Ritvik philosophy so . I want to become Rational and Centrist to know what is ISKM point and ISKCON point of view . But yes I see that Swami's of ISKCON have very Luxury life style instead of becoming simple living so I can see both side has bad things too . That can't be denied Hare Krishna ❤️ Jay Srila Prabhupada 🙏🕉️

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BdAsvtApb8w.html 12:00-14:30 Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa!!!

@@ISKM108 Thank you for clearing that up. Hare Krishna!

There is only audio, video is added. In comments the link is shared if you scroll

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Hare Krishna, I have many misconceptions about this short,how can I ask you??

Are you there to see them or see Krishna?