Thank you "Jewish Voice for Peace" for speaking out the truth. We hope that the next generation of Palestinians and Jewish have a chance to live a life better than their ancestors.
I believe we should call for a referendum. The most rightful thing is a referendum made by true original land owners (Palestineans, including native Palestinean jews) and they decide the state they want. Simple. Very simple. It's not a thousands of years matter. Otherwise, the immigrants who stole the land should go back to where they came from.
Israel is going to stay strong. Europe will use its security to save itself. They will continue to "love" Jews, hate Israel but in secret depend on their know how. So Stop with the bullshit. Whatever Israel ahs odne the other middle eastern countries are better? Syria? Saudi Arabia? Even Turkey is a dictatorship nowadays. Whatever you say, the world never cared about morals, countries care about their owjn interest. and capable intelligent israelis who have impact on security technology and IT who are willing to coorperate will not be deminished.. especially in a time where people make terror all over the world. All your stuff about this country being destroyed is nothing more but a mere dream sorry man. I am not even Zionist but a realist. By the way Einstein was a Jewish Zionist, who donated all his works to the library in Jerusalem - Sidenote about your stupidity.
One side wants the other side gone and the Palestinians will not compromise at all costs and the Jews have no were else to go. It's very easy to explain but dam hard to solve.
@@elijahsabo3846 Let me have the majority of your home, but if you’re nice I might leave you a small portion, though it’s still technically mine brother. I mean I was mistreated at my old home and I’m pretty sure I might have an ancestor who lived in this house hundreds of years ago.
@@farhaanahmed8924 There is 22 Arab states in the world and one Jewish state which is small then New Jersey. That small portion of land belonged to israel century's before the Palestinians showed up. No Palestinians have been kicked out of Israel and Israel has put forth five peace treaties and the Palestinians rejected them all. WHAT THE HELL IS ISRAEL SUPPOSED TO DO!
I believe we should call for a referendum. The most rightful thing is a referendum made by true original land owners (Palestineans, including native Palestinean jews) and they decide the state they want. Simple. Very simple. It's not a thousands of years matter. Otherwise, the immigrants who stole the land should go back to where they came from.
The Jews have just a sliver of land in the Middle East while their Arab brothers occupy all the rest, and the ones that are radical islamists not only want to annihilate Israel (the only true democracy there), but all democratic Nations that value human rights, life & liberty, because they want sharia law implemented thru' global jihad.
Free them from hamas and radical islam, the enemy of democratic Nations that value human rights & liberty, like Israel - the only true democracy in the Middle East and just a sliver of land, compared to their Arab brothers who occupy all the rest of the land there.
Is a united secular state too much to ask for? Nobody wants to force the jews to leave, nobody wants a muslim supremacy (Hamas gains support because it contrasts itself with the corrupt PLO, and since military resistance is popular, their support soars during times of conflict). Is it too much to ask for a democratic state that won't see a difference between a jew and an arab? As a socialist, I wish to unite both people and shift the struggle from an ethnic/religious conflict to a class conflict, not jews vs arabs, but workers vs the bourgeoisie. It would be a joyous day when the working classes of both nations throw out their shackles to cooperate and found a just socialist society.
This video is very helpful for an easy introduction, but how could you not mention the Nakba? You say how they destroyed hundreds of Palestinian towns but not the thousands of people they massacred in the process? It wasn't just "fighting" as you say, it was an act of ethnic cleansing. And it is still ongoing. I highly recommend 1948: Creation and Catastrophe in which the settlers themselves describe what they did, alongside Palestinians and scholars on the subject. Other than that, I love JVP's work :)
This video is incredibly biased and in many parts untrue. Israeli Arabs have more rights in Israel than they do in the Gaza strip and Palestinian Authority; they can vote, pray, and have their own media any way they want (and they do) and still remain citizens. Israel voted for peace with 3 prime ministers, Barak, Peres and Rabin, and gave up the Gaza strip and 1/3rd of the West Bank and only got violence in return for their "peace agreement"; when the Palestinians stop attacking and inciting violence against Israel they will get a state.....with Israels help....just like Israel gave the PA Gaza and a huge greenhouse and food processing businesses there (which Hamas destroyed) so they would get in the West Bank, if they kept their promises in the Oslo and Wye agreements.
So why, Donald, do Palestinian Israelis have different vehicle number plates, different roads, different laws relating to age of child arrest, house demolitions, less water allocation, permits which control their movement...............???
Israeli Arabs and Israeli Jews do have the same liscense plates and water allocations etc. The Palestinian Authority has control over 70% of the Palestinians in the WestBank and Hamas is in control of the whole Gaza strip....they both get funding from Europe and middle east countries, (the PA even gets funding from the US and Canada) you should ask them what they are doing with that money.
Are you aware of the fact that only in the case of the Palestinians the refugee status is inheritable? Only in Palestine, there were originally 650.000 refugees and now more than 6 millions... All other peoples who became refugees in the history of the world took their destiny into their own hands and built new lives in their new place, including the Jewish people.
Despite being presented as fact, there are many inaccuracies in this version of the foundation of the state of Israel. Inaccuracies which, of course, pose a pro-Palestine position. Please, I challenge you to post a more accurate, and historically correct version, and let's see how well this works for your campaign. I am in support neither side, but prefer that if you are going to attempt to gain support for a cause, that it is done using historically valid fact.
You can't handle the truth. Even Israeli historians not only agree with this narrative of the founding of Israel, but they paint a picture of the Zionists which is even more shameful.
it also fails to mention that the settlements are illegal. i also think saying it harms both palestinians AND israel’s is a bit of a stretch… Israeli’s are benefiting and palestinians suffer in all aspects of life!
inaccuracy ? this would only be relevant if the indigenous people had accepted those borders in the first place… but as stated in the video, they rejected the UN Partition Plan (0:50)… « we will recognize your full rights only if you accept that we dispossess you of most of your land » is not quite a fair deal, is it ? no self-respecting people would have agreed to such a biased and manipulative proposal…
How can this video be called 'accurate'? It is far from it! One example: trying to accuse Israel of conquering Judea and Samaria in 1967? Really? This is simply not right. Actually a coordinated attack against Israel's existence was mounted by surrounding Arab nations at this time. Why does this video fail to give this vital detail? Maybe because it is NOT accurate, and is in fact biased! Before this point there were no settlements in what you call the West Bank, although there were indigenous Jewish communities that had always been here for the last 3000 years. Israel pleaded with Jordan not to join the hostile alliance that was forming to attack, but Jordan decided it wanted to join the attack as well, confident that the united Arab forces would be victorious. Peace in that area could have been maintained if Jordan had simply not been willing to join in the hostility. What was Israel meant to do? Roll over and die? Let themselves be slaughtered by the Arabs? Israel would never have needed to take control of that strategically vital area of Judea and Samaria if Jordan (who was in control of it before, at a time when a state of Palestine could have easily been achieved but wasn't) had stayed out of the conflict. Jordan and the other nations lost a fight they started and in the process, Israel took control of land that it has held onto till this day to PREVENT a repeat of the same scenario. Israel would be foolish to hand it back over until a guaranteed peace can be achieved.
@@layanhassan8273 JEWISH PEOPLE ARE THE NATIVE INHABITANS OF THE LAND ISRAEL IS THE 3RD JEWISH STATED IN THE AREA, THEIR NEVER WAS A PALESTINIANS STATE IN THE AREA,THE PALESTINANS HISTORIC HOMELAND IS JORDAN HISTORICLY;WHICH EXPLAINS WHY THE PALESTINANS DON'T WANT A STATE OF THEIR OWN! ISRAEL SETTLEMENTS IN THE JUDEA AND SUMARIA ARE THEIR TO PROTECT ISRAEL FROM THE PALESTINIANS WHO HAVE BEEN ATTACKING THE STATE OF ISRAEL FOR OVER 5 DECADES WITH THE GOAL TO DESTROY THE STATE OF ISRAEL,OH AND BY THE WAY DESTROYING A STATE IS VERY ILLEGAL!
@@generalnapoleonbonaparte3186 📌 The first to live in Palestine before 14000 BC to 8000 BC.. Tribes named Natufians..we know nothing about them..they have traces they left and these traces we know them from.. 📌 In 8000 BC, traces were found indicating that there was the beginning of a city in Jericho, and therefore Jericho is the oldest city in the world..because it has the oldest monuments in the world..These monuments were the beginnings of a city.. 📌 8000 BC to 4500 BC.. A life of stability began in Palestine and buildings began to appear, but it was not known who these monuments belong to.. 📌 The first known and established traces in Palestine of people who settled and built in Palestine were for the Canaanites, Jebusites, and the Ameris, who entered it from the Arabian Peninsula. 📌 The beginning of stability in Palestine is for Arab tribes.. 📌 Those lands were called the land of Canaan.. and this is mentioned in the Torah and the Bible.. 📌 They started building cities at Al-Aqsa Mosque.. 📌 Our master Ibrahim was an immigrant to Palestine.. and his sons Isaac and Ismail were born in Palestine, but they left it.. Ismail left it and went to Mecca.. And Isaac stayed there for a short period, he and his offspring, the offspring of Jacob, peace be upon him, and all of them left the land of Palestine, according to the famous story of our master Joseph.. ((And bring me all your family)) All of them left it and went with Jacob to Egypt.. 📌 So the children of Israel resided in Palestine for only one generation.. the generation of Jacob.. They were born and lived there and left these areas and went to Egypt.. and this is mentioned in all Arab and Western history and the holy books.. 📌 In the same year that Jacob established the temple in Palestine and before his emigration to Egypt, the Egyptians, the Pharaohs, began to expand their lands, so they occupied Palestine, and Palestine became affiliated with Egypt.. 📌 So the first to live in Palestine, the Arabs, the Canaanites, the Jebusites, and the children of Israel migrated to it for a while, then left it and went to Egypt..
@@TheTarnishedOne En Facebook ya no está, pero alguien ya había subido la misma versión: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FlkG5JCMMN4.html
Some facts in this video are wrong, and probably based on some kind of an attempt to look neutral. For example, not many people lived in Israel. Jews who did live in Arab cities lived while hiding their identity as Jews, until more Jews returned to Israel (From mid East or Russia, not Europe) and they decided to regroup and re-settle away from those cities that were dense and poor. The map showing in the beginning is very inaccurate, that it's purpose it to show how some nation randomly decided to steal land. To pull this kind of a genius trick, you have to be a mastermind surrounded by other masterminds. Before the world wars, Jews lived well in Europe as the loyal citizens of the countries they have been, they would fight for their countries. Long story short: They had no reason to leave Europe. But they still did, and moved into the land of Zion (Zion = Jerusalem) joining their brothers who were lucky enough not to be exiled. This move started way before World War 2 or World War 1, and the prays for returned were prayed for over 2000 years ago, when the Jews lost their second temple.
To say there weren’t many people living in Israel already is ridiculous. There were literally 750000 refugees created in one year alone after the state of Israel was created, and millions more since then.
@@maeghalanka9020 and 850,000 Jewish refugees who were expelled from Arab lands in whch they had lived for millenia! "Millions more" because they were forced to remain as such, they an their descendants and ar the only refugees to remain refugees in the world!...even having a special arm of the UN set uo to "support" them! Israel's refugees were integrated nto the land immediately (and yes, there were problems- a whole other issue)
This is a deliberately misleading video. For one, it does not even mention Jews that were expelled from Arab countries. Another food for thought - in Hannah Arendt's "Eichmann in Jerusalem" which was published in 1964 she uses the term "Palestinian" to refer to Zionists. This means only one thing - what we know today as the Palestinian nation was invented after 1964.
- While the name of this organization is "Jewish Voices for Peace," it is not interested in confronting the human rights violations, violence, or war in the rest of the Middle East. The disingenuous name represents the organization well. - 4/5th of "Historic Palestine" belongs to the Arabs, the nation of Jordan. - Millions of Jewish refugees who fled to Israel were expelled from Arab and Moslem nations, places in which they had lived before the Moslem conquest. - Peace has been offered to the Arabs/Palestinians many times over 80 years by the British, the UN and Israel and the Arabs/Palestinians always refused.
Find it funny how they just calmly skipped over the 1948 War when Arab countries invaded Israel. I believe that Israel should give back the land it took like it gave it back to Egypt. So I am not being biased, I am just against whitewash.
The animated introduction omits one very important fact: Between passage of the UN Partition Plan on Nov. 29/47 and the declaration of the state of Israel on 15 May 1948, Jewish forces had already dispossessed and expelled over 400,000 Palestinians, e.g., 60,000 from Haifa in late April '48; 75,000 from Jaffa in late April and early May and 60,000 from West Jerusalem in March and early May '48. Although reluctant to do so, accelerating expulsion of Palestinians forced outnumbered/outgunned Arab state armies to intervene in Palestine on April 15.
That's right. Tiny Israel, just attacks it's 5 neighbors. Outpopulated, outgunned, less tanks, a few planes knew that if it attacked, it would conquer all the Levant. That is how crazy you sound. You can't cancel history until all who lived it are dead.
Glad I stumbled across this. In my country (Ireland) this perspective has been commonplace for decades but it can be frustrating trying to explain it to Americans who have only been exposed to the Israeli perspective over the years in their incredibly censored media. This simple little video may help.
I believe we should call for a referendum. The most rightful thing is a referendum made by true original land owners (Palestineans, including native Palestinean jews) and they decide the state they want. Simple. Very simple. It's not a thousands of years matter. Otherwise, the immigrants who stole the land should go back to where they came from.
What's frustrating is that ignorant westerners don't realize the conflict in the Middle East is between two brothers, the Arabs/Muslims and Jews. While Jews have a sliver of land, Arabs occupy all the rest of the Middle East. And the radical islamic ones are hellbent on Israel's annihilation, because as the only true democracy in the Middle East that values human rights and liberty, they stand in the way of radical Islam/sharia law ruling, which is why they call for global jihad to subjugate the whole world to their religion.
Darrin Kornelsen '' Its a 7 minute video of a 100 years conflict , not an exhaustive study '' For your information its NOT 100 years conflict but 1435 years to be precise. This conflict goes back to the times of so called profit Mo-ham-mad . Even if Jews leave Israel and move to some other part of the world, Muslims will still hate Jews . That is the teaching of Mo-ham-mad and Allah . Please read Quran and Hadiths. Now see www.faithfreedom.org
1- You wrote: "No explanation on WHY all of these settlements were built." The settlements were built to satisfy Israel's territorial ambitions. All interested Arab parties offered peace and recognition for the establishment of a Palestinian within 1967 borders. Syria was the last to acquiesce in 1971, when illegal settlers numbered in the 1000s. Israel categorically refused attempts by third parties to broker an implementation of 242 in the years following the 67 war. Israel said "no" to the Jarring mission, a joint Soviet American proposal and finally the Rogers plan in 1970. Mark Tessler : A History of the Israel Palestine Conflict Noam Chomkey: This Fateful Triangle - The reason why the settlements were built supports the thesis of the clip and hardly reflects well on Israel:-) . . 2- You wrote - "It talks about failed peace plans....how about the CAUSES of why these failed?" The Oslo accords failed because the rate of settlement in the West Bank accelerated during Oslo. The PA, which, according to US SOS Warren Christopher, was giving 100% co-operation during the early years of Oslo was made to look like a dupe for co-opting a faithless partner. Norman Finkelstein: Image and Reality Sharon destroyed the best hope for reviving Oslo when he was elected in 2001 by publicly renouncing the hard won consensus seen at the Taba talks. Ron Pundak: "From Oslo to Taba: What went wrong" - The reason why the peace process failed supports the thesis of the clip and hardly reflects well on Israel:-) I do read books. I also translate academic articles. Don't take on a patronizing tone with me Skippy:-)
Did I miss something or did you not mention that Jordan was occupying the Westbank and East Jerusalem for 20 years (1948-1967) and didn't allow any jew to visit the Wailing Wall? You didn't mention that Palestinians are Arabs and you are morally condemning that Israel won't accept refugees while not mentioning that the countries they belong to, ie Jordan, won't accept their own people. Their is no historical Palestine, neither. It was made up in 20th century, Jews lived in Israel for 3.000 years.
get your infos right ..... palestine was there for ages even in maps while yall were in Europe.... arabs lived there until these colonizers took OUR land.
wikipedia. On the night of 7/8 June 1940 a single French Navy Farman F.223 aircraft bombed Berlin, the first Allied attack on the capital. Despite the British attacks on German cities, the Luftwaffe did not begin to attack military and economic targets in the UK until six weeks after the campaign in France was concluded.... In World War II approximately 410,000 German civilians were killed by Allied air raids. From July 1944 to January 1945, an average of 13,536 people were killed every month. In Hamburg alone about 49,000 civilians were killed by Allied bombing, and in Berlin about 35,000 Some 30,000 tonnes of bombs were dropped overall
@@Mahrahussain You express the real conflict, you don't want to make peace with Israel, you want to get rid of it. I respect that, but let's be honest about it.
I hope people realize that there are a ton of inaccuracies , grossly skewed stats and misleading, wrong, flat out lies (so sorry but I simply have no other way to say it).
not factually correct. Was good until 2 minutes in then started getting a bit cloudy then way over board. Israel didn't keep on stealing more land. Gaza just kept getting denser. Thanks for rewriting the history books...
Of course this video ignores all the various partition plans from the 1920s until 1947, which provided Arabs the majority of the land. It also ignores the Mandate for Palestine, which was only part of a large mandate system for the Middle East, after the fall of the Ottoman Empire after WWI, long before 1947, which defined Palestine as the Jewish homeland. The Mandate for Mesopotamia gave birth to Iraq's arbitrary borders, the French Mandate gave arbitary borders for the creation of Lebanon and Syria, etc. But of course, this video has no questions regarding those borders and the subsequent wars/invasions among Arab countries due to the Mandates. Nope, this video, based on its quest for "peace" (LOL) only questions the Israel borders and assumes history began in 1947-8.
If you would care to read the text of the Balfour declaration you allude to, you will see it does not support your statement that it "defined Palestine as the Jewish homeland". Balfour Declaration: "Dear Lord Rothschild,I have much pleasure in conveying to you. on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the CabinetHis Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."
@@dokkanblox9695 go research Operation Ajax where a CIA/MI6 backed coup overthrew a DEMOCRATIC elected leader. The US fired the first shot and Iranian threats are the response. We Americans took their freedom and you're happy about that?
Very biased and inaccurate view of real history. There is no such thing as “historic Palestine”. Palestine is not even an Arab word, it was a Greek word the Romans used to name the region after the Bar Kochva rebellion against the colonist Romans, in order to humiliate Jews. It was always Judea and will always remain Judea.
God this ticks me off, Israel is fucking awesome, they earned that land. Do you know how hard it is to be a Jew? Half the world is anti semantic. I'm atheist and I support isreal
if half the world is anti Semitic, then why couldn't the ones who liberated from nazis, instead brought them to their own homeland...USA and England....why push your so called new friends all the way from europe to just this specific land.....if they have earned that land, then so does every other human being that wants to live there....imagine your neighbour just knocks your door right now and tells you to move out because everyone hates him and he has earned it
da8wonder Ermm Okayyy... Hardly know where to start! Such nasty words! If you want to find about all 3 of these epithets you just used to describe Israel try and find out whats going on in Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia...need I say more? In fact, better still, go and visit one of these countries. When (or if) you return let me know how it was. Oh yes, before you go, take into account the long queues at the airports' security checks. Are they because of Israels constant hijacking and exploding of passenger planees? Do enlighten us.
telemachus53 The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967
Why do we Palestinians have to accept the existence of another state that forced us to leave our homes and committed many heinous massacres against us, so why do we tolerate their persecution, so why do we accept their attempts to demolish Al-Aqsa Mosque? ? ? It is one of the most important religious landmarks in Islam. The conflict is not only over land, it is a conflict of beliefs, and peace cannot be achieved, as I said, we indigenous people.
@@hbpz6407 JEWISH PEOPLE ARE THE NATIVE INHABITANS OF THE LAND ISRAEL IS THE 3RD JEWISH STATED IN THE AREA, THEIR NEVER WAS A PALESTINIANS STATE IN THE AREA,THE PALESTINANS HISTORIC HOMELAND IS JORDAN HISTORICLY;WHICH EXPLAINS WHY THE PALESTINANS DON'T WANT A STATE OF THEIR OWN! ISRAEL SETTLEMENTS IN THE JUDEA AND SUMARIA ARE THEIR TO PROTECT ISRAEL FROM THE PALESTINIANS WHO HAVE BEEN ATTACKING THE STATE OF ISRAEL FOR OVER 5 DECADES WITH THE GOAL TO DESTROY THE STATE OF ISRAEL,OH AND BY THE WAY DESTROYING A STATE IS VERY ILLEGAL!
There's no Palestinian State recognized by U.N. before European Jews moved to Israel. Jews and Palestinians live peacefully in Israel during the Ottoman Empire.
What the hell are you talking about as a native of Palestine occupied by Israel? 1. Ottoman citizens who occupied Palestine before British rule in Palestine? 2. Mamluk dynasty Egyptians who ruled Palestine before the Ottomans took over Palestine? 3. The Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem, a Christian sovereign state that made Palestine its mainland before the Mamluks took over it? 4. Or, the Muslim Abbasid dynasty, which occupied Palestine from the robbery of Rome in the 6th and 7th centuries until it was robbed by the Crusaders? 5. Or, the Roman Empire, which conquered the Kingdom of Judah and established a governor-general in Palestine, and then lost Palestine to the Islamic Empire in the 6th and 7th centuries? 6. Or, the Jews of the Kingdom of Judah who fought against the Roman Empire to the end at Masada Fortress? 7. Or, Macedonian Ptolemaic, Archimedes? 8. Or, the Persians who occupied Palestine before being captured by the Macedonians? 9. Or, the Babylonian Empire that had taken over Palestine before it was destroyed by the Persians? 10. Or, ancient Israel, the kingdom of Judah? 11. Or, the ancient Egyptian dynasty that occupied Palestine before the founding of the Kingdom of Judah? 12. Or the Canaanites of unknown origin? The only sovereign state limited to the Palestinian region is the kingdom of Judah and ancient Israel. Do you know that the existence of Palestinian natives, who have lived for thousands of years, is your delusion?
Very concise and sensible explanation!! I showed my son Alex this when he asked about all the unpleasant business on the news of late, and I was able to refer him to this. If only all matters were so easy to explain to your children, like procreation and the popularity of U2!! (DISCLAIMER: That was a joke. I, Tobias Henderson, mean no (NO) offense to the individual members of U2, who, as of December 5th, 2012, comprise: Paul "Bono" Hewson, David "Edge" Evans, Adam Clayton, and Larry Mullen, Jr.)
WHat this entire video fails to recognize is the fact that the U.S. for example, because it was attacked by both Germany and Japan, would have been well within it's right to claim whatever territories of those nation(s) which were fighting against it as it so desired, and even still, gave back sovereignty to both nations after the war was over, because they made sure they got the message and learned not to attack a sovereign nation -- unprovoked -- such as the U.S., and they made sure of this. Israel also conceded much of it's land to the Arabs in an effort to make a deal and a compromise for peace, and it was roundly rejected. Within a few days of the June 10, 1967 cease-fire, Israel’s Ambassador to the UN, Abba Eban, made his famous speech offering to negotiate the return of captured territories in exchange for three Arab concessions: diplomatic recognition of Israel; negotiations to decide on universally recognized borders and on other outstanding issues; and peace. World opinion was amazed that the victor was offering to negotiate with the vanquished and was willing to make substantial concessions (return of territories) in exchange for symbolic and diplomatic ones (recognition, negotiations, peace agreements). To formulate a response to this unexpected new reality, the Arab states called a summit meeting in Khartoum (capitol of Sudan) in August, 1967. The result was the now infamous three Khartoum NOs: no recognition, no negotiations, no peace. Also, I just _LOVE_ how this video makes such painfully pathetic attempts to make it so subtle their glossing over and even outright ignoring of the fact that the territory gained by Israel n 1967 was only gained PRECISELY *_BECAUSE_* OF THE FACT THAT *_ISRAEL_* WAS *_ATTACKED!_* FIRST! -- _BY_ THE ARAB NATIONS AND PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES WHICH LAUNCHED THEIR ATTACK TO DESTROY ISRAEL! *ISRAEL WOULD HAVE BEEN WELL WITHIN IT'S RIGHT TO HAVE TAKEN IMMEDIATE CONTROL AND LEGITIMATE SOVEREIGNTY OF LITERALLY **_ALL_** OF THE LAND OCCUPIED AT THE TIME BY THE NATIONS (AND NON NATIONS) THAT ATTACKED THEIR PEOPLE AND WAGED WAR ON THEM! But they didn't even do that!!!*
Okay what you fail to recognize is that you’re making a lot of assumptions and rules up on your own. Just because one nation attacks another, does not give the attacked nation the right to take over that other nation’s entire land. You seem to have just made that up as a rule, when this is not accepted in international law in any way. Second of all, you’re acting as if Palestine is to blame for not accepting the proposed partition of land divided between Israel and Palestine, when it was all Palestinian land to begin with. Imagine if some other nation attacked the US, took over half of it, and then asked us to accept peace and recognize that land as theirs. That makes literally no sense.
The problem is the PALESTINIANS' mentality. I dont hear them saying "we want peace, end this war." but i kept on hearing "Allah, help us win this battle. Give us victory." problem is the GAZA people not Israel. even if Israel stops the war people of Gaza will still fight for sure, firing rockets and everything that's killer.
@@TjatteHedlund JEWISH PEOPLE ARE THE NATIVE INHABITANS OF THE LAND ISRAEL IS THE 3RD JEWISH STATED IN THE AREA, THEIR NEVER WAS A PALESTINIANS STATE IN THE AREA,THE PALESTINANS HISTORIC HOMELAND IS JORDAN HISTORICLY;WHICH EXPLAINS WHY THE PALESTINANS DON'T WANT A STATE OF THEIR OWN! ISRAEL SETTLEMENTS IN THE JUDEA AND SUMARIA ARE THEIR TO PROTECT ISRAEL FROM THE PALESTINIANS WHO HAVE BEEN ATTACKING THE STATE OF ISRAEL FOR OVER 5 DECADES WITH THE GOAL TO DESTROY THE STATE OF ISRAEL,OH AND BY THE WAY DESTROYING A STATE IS VERY ILLEGAL!
I often find myself sighing after watching videos like these because no matter what you write you're accused of being anti- Semitic. What is happening in Palestine Is wrong. Ppl just want peace. The world can see this.
It is both their sword and shield. If you can simply dismiss someone as a racist, you don't have to contend with what they are saying. A Jewish scholar named Norman Finklestein wrote two books about this. One was about how it is used daily in Israeli/American politics to dismiss legitimate criticisms of Israel, and the other was about how Zionism used latent guilt of Western nations from the holocaust to help create a Jewish state. He himself is referred to as a "self-hating Jew" because of his lifelong fight against Zionism.
I think, that: people; of ALL Faith's and back-ground's, whether they be: Muslim, Jewish, ARABic, Christian; Atheist, Bhuddist and/or; Sikh and/or; black, White and/or; Asian and so 4th; should: "STAND Up, for: the right; to: Refuse; to: fight!!"!!
This is the first I've heard of the group "Jewish Voice for Peace" on Democracy Now... instantly, I dropped everything to go on RU-vid to search for the group and here I am. :) I am soooo proud you guys. Keep up with the outstanding work and let's strive for justice and peace for all.
Thank you for this video, thank you for this so simple and accurate explanation of the Palestinian problem, thank you for this call for struggle and for peace. I also really love your Chanukah message, although I'm not Jew and I have nothing to do with this celebration. Congratulations. And don't forget: "be courageous"!
Bias video.... He did not explain why Palestinians suffered ....? Palestinians suffered Because during the partition Palestinians doesn't like to have neighbor on that land .....Instead Palestinians making War with Israel.
Free Palestinians from hamas and radical islam, which is hellbent on destroying Nations of democracy that value human rights & liberty, like Israel, the only true democracy in the Middle East. 💪🇮🇱❤️
Why dont they ever mention that those people who now complain about the living conditions as refugees in occupied land that they had the SAME living conditions when that land was under control by egypt and jordan? They never complained, they never called for a jihad or an intifada against egypt or jordan, they never fired rockets against them, even though their living conditions were EXACTLY THE SAME OR WORSE than now
There are a bunch of historical facts left out. For one, Arabs rejected the partition plan for Palestine, and rejected any kind of partition. They didn't even wanted to negotiate any further. And as far as I have been able to read, most acts of violence in the area was started by Arabs. The Civil War from 1947 to 1948, the Arab-Israeli War, the Yom Kippur War, the First Palestinian Intafada, the Al-Aqsa Intafada, and the attacks from Hamas and Hezbollah. Hamas btw is calling for the complete annihilation of Israel. While Hamas indiscrimently fired rockets into Israel, the IDF did their best to only target infrastructure that was used by Hamas. The violence in that area of the world, almost always came from the Arabs not the Israeli's. Even in the Six-Day War Egyptian forces amassed in the Sinai peninsula, while Israel did preemptively strike Egypt, it probably wouldn't have been long until the Arab countries would have attack Israel again. And from what I understood and heard, Israel is willing to make concession after concession in order for there to be peace, while the Arab World, from the very beginning wasn't.
Your pinning the blame on the arabs even though the Isrealis also did violince. When the jews first moved into the region of Palestine/Isreal they bought lands and kicked off the palestinians and the palestinians rettaliated with violince. If you were Palestine and were being out populated by the day and then the UN comes and tries to make peace but they would take away most of your territoires even though the arabs were about 2 thirds of the population which was another reason why the arabs rejected the peace talks. The other arab states wanted the jews out as they saw isreal as a european creation and was apart of colonialism and imperialism. Most palestinians were subjecated by the Isrealis and some resorted to terrorising the Isrealis to force them out of Palestine. I could be wrong in many ways but the fact that the isrealis also have to atone for the violence they also had done to the palestinians. This is why its a heatly debated between both sides.
Wouldn't it be equal to make both states united as the state of Israel and Palestine (just like Bosnien och Hercegovina) where all have equal rights and can live wherever they want?
this may end up happening, de facto. however, this would be the end of the Jewish state, or the end of democracy, one or the other. because the combined state would be Palestinian-majority in a few decades, so it couldn't really be a Jewish state if it were democratic.
Sean Cassidy Does it have to be a jewish state specifically? Only the zionists have such selfish beliefs. Everyone knows that the holy land of Palestine is equal of importance to Christians and Muslims too. Israel must remove the borders, give everyone equal rights despite religious beliefs and declare a new state of Israel and Palestine. No more gaza ghetto and seperation between the people. This is the only way to end this conflict. People have to learn to live with one another.
mahham93 There is a country for french people named France, a country for german people named german. What is the problem with a country for Jewish people named Israel? Why zionists different from oh I don't know any other nationality in the world? I've got a better idea. America is huge. Why doesn't it give some land and then everyone from Gaza can move in and create "the holy land of Palestine"? Oh wait, because it's easier to tell Israel to give up on its country than to actually act towards solving the conflict.
***** Um actually you're wrong there. Judaism is both a religion and a nationality. A nationality is a group of people, connected either by ideology (USA) or by birth, history, and culture (Germany) that have aspirations of politically ruling and owning a country. Judaism fits all of this. Since it's beginning it has strived to get to Israel. Judaism is connected by birth (you're Jewish if your mom is Jewish), history(the old testament is basically that) and culture (I think this one is pretty obvious). Thus Judaism is a nationality.
Israel and Palestine should exist and live in peace with each other. Both the Jews and Arabs suffered a lot so that they both can have a nation to represent themselves. In addition, Israel should also recognize Palestine and Palestine should recognize Israel.
***** (While we're all asking rhetorical questions) ;) Is it hard to stop the Zio-fascists from destroying the future of a Jewish state by removing the last hope for a "Two-state solution"? I think it would be great tohave Jews in Judea, respecting everyone's rights like a modern industrialized country. No more 'one (marshal) law for Palestinians and another for Jews. No more destroying OliveGroves and stealing farm land. No more walls and 'settler-only' roads. www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.571863#
***** I know it's hard, Ryan, not to just tell people to Fuck Off.... especially when dealing with these little fascists who've been brainwashed to believe that, because the happen to have some vague link to people, some of whom who left a nice mediterranean land thousands of years ago that they have an inherent right to massacre and ethnically cleans those who stayed. But let's try to retain a sense of decorum. ***** By a 'reputable' book, I'm suspect that you mean the Torat Hamelech - The tome promoted by some Rabbis (paid by the state of Israel) which justifies killing Gentiles ..... and not, say,,,Historian Ilan Pappe' s - "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" Or Max Blumenthal's more recent "Goliath",.... or Robert Fiske's "The Great War for Civilization: The conquest of the Middle East"
“They tried to return to steal what belonged to them. So we shot them.” - Marco Rosio, one of the first Jewish settlers in Moshav Kerem Ben Zimra, whose members moved into the homes of Palestinians from Ras al-Ahmar
The Israel-Palestine conflict is essentially a tragic tale between two victims. The Jews who have been historically persecuted are now persecuting the Palestinians, or so that’s the politics of it, since not all Jews are pro-Zionist, and not all Palestinians desire coexistence with Jews.
Have you heard of the concept that the so called Jews in Israel are not the true israelites/Jews because discriptions of curses in the Torah doesn't fit them ?
The chapter of Deuteronomy mentions the curses the Real/True Israelites will go through. And the curses inside it, don't match the so called "White Jews" & or the historical Jews/Israelites they claim to be. Who of which, Are still cursed today. The Jewish people are very powerful, They own most of the banks, they have good money, they have Israel and a powerful army. Do they seemed cursed to you as a whole ? It wouldn't make sense at all
I take exception of the use of the word "indigenous" to refer to Palestinians. That is very racist. If I invade the USA and call them Indigenous Population I don't think they would like it either. Just PALESTINIANS. They are just PALESTINIANS.
They were offered plans to separate Israel with 1 zone considered international land and they refused, because they wanted it all. and that was in 1948. There is nothing more to say.
Yam Levi So someone whose great grandfather who used to be the ealier owner of the land on which your home is built enters and "offers" that you give away your bedroom and kitchen to them. When you deny, they takeover your home and "let" you live in your backyard. And when you protest, you are deemed violent and anti-peace as you couldve easily prevented the situation by giving up YOUR bedroom and kitchen.
TheDarkBurna wrong...the Arabs themselves invited the British during world war 1. the Arabs then can't say the British have no right to be part of the policies.
I highly recommend watching the award winning documentary: Roadmap to Apartheid. You can rent it for $3 on youtube. Any person that comes from the western world and values individual freedom and pluralism will see how awful the Israeli government has been acting for the last 50 years. If you consider all humans are equal and deserve the same rights there's no denying that what the Palestinians are going through is one of the biggest human catastrophes of our times. If on the contrary, you think that human rights are different depending on race/nationality/religion/sexual-orientation/economic-class; that is your right, freedom of thought. Keep in mind that just how we learn history now, we learn about the slave trade, we learn about the rise of Hitler, we learn about the Christian crusades, the witch trials... one day we we'll be the ones judged by History. And I'm afraid history won't be kind to us. We'll be Judged by the lack of empathy for human suffering, people will wonder why we turned a blind eye to a widely documented violation of human rights. Liberté, égalité, fraternité... such beautiful ideals and great life motto... millions of westerners have died defending those concepts that have helped shaped our current societies. Those are the values that we are so proud of, the values that our ancestors died defending so we could enjoy. Education can counteract the natural tendency to do the wrong thing, but the inexorable succession of generations requires that the basis of this knowledge be constantly refreshed (Hardin, 1968, The Tragedy of the Commons). As privileged citizens with individual freedom we can choose, to voice our voice in favor of of those principles or not. The choice is ours. Whatever we choose to stand for today as a society, will determine not only how the future sees us but also the future that we leave for our kids. I personally, have no doubt that I will choose to uphold those values across the world and defend the legacy of so many other before me that have made it possible for me to enjoy a life of freedom. Freedom to be the captain of my own life, freedom to love who I want, freedom to travel, freedom to have equal rights under the law, freedom to have my voice heard. The choice is yours and you can do as you please but keep in mind that every choice comes with consequences and what doesn't affect our daily life today might affect us tomorrow.
this clip is full of bias! i will write just one for example: in 1947 the partition plan offered the arabs and the jews 2 states. the jews accepted it but the arabs didnt, so they started a war in order to vanish the jewish population. 5 armies against 1. and the jews won. in 1948-1950, 650,000 jews were expelled from the arab countries -forced to move to israel, no one is talking about that. they are refugees as well. this movie is not a jewish voice. i am sorry
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) launched an aerial offensive in Gaza on July 8, followed by a ground offensive on July 17. A ceasefire agreement was reached on August 26. The UN has identified 538 children among the 1,563 Palestinian civilians it counted as killed. Palestinian armed groups launched more than 5,000 rockets and mortars into Israel, killing 5 civilians, including 370 rockets before the escalation of fighting on July 8, repeatedly forcing civilians in cities throughout Israel to seek protection in shelters. The rockets launched by armed groups in Gaza cannot be accurately aimed at military objectives and amount to indiscriminate or deliberate attacks on civilians when directed at Israeli population centers, in violation of the laws of war. Why can't we just admit both sides are at fault, and that neither side is completely to blame?
Hasan Karacayir And the other praises murders, and sends its people in to stab and kill innocents. Anyway, every time Israel took more land, it was after they got attacked by others. Both countries are acting monstrously, and both should receive no aid from the UN or its member countries
***** The only reason that the killings in Israel are small scale are because of all the drastic security and defense measures that they had to put in to keep it that way. Palestine fired about the same number of rockets as Israel, the only difference is that those rockets were destroyed by the so called "Iron dome". In addition, the leaders have filled their country with hoards of hate, so that a significant percentage of the nation would attempt such attacks, could they get in. I'm not saying that Israel is innocent, far from it, but stop claiming that Palestine is nothing but a victim here.
***** so let me get this straight, The Palestinian military is trying to murder people, but it doesn't count because they don't have the tech to do it effectively. Attempted murder isn't any better than murder itself in my book Also, I would say that "the idea of the operation" of the Iron Dome system is to prevent as many casualties as possible. After all, isn't the primary point of war to get your enemy to surrender, while keeping your own casualties to a minimum? Once again, I won't deny that Israel is a monster to any non-Jew living within it's boarders, and has not been reluctant to harm civilians in the war, but you aren't freed from all charges for murdering someone if that someone was also a murderer
***** I've explained how Gaza has become a nation of terrorists repeatedly. If you want to blind yourself to this, then there's nothing I can do to change that. I simply hope you never sit on a jury, with your refusal to admit that someone who claims to be wronged might be just as guilty
***** Violence is violence. Either way, that territory historically belongs to both sides, and neither deserves to have total control. The main issue is that Palestine is turning its citizens into cold blooded murderers, and deserves no pity.
Sending their military into the internationally recognized land of another to ethnically cleanse them in the "settlement policy" is not an attempt to make peace.
@@daniolivia5032 The Israelis in the recognized Palestinian territory. It is the stated goal of zionism to clear this region and create a Jewish majority. It is no different than any of the other crusades, only more protracted. As for the time, right now and every day since around the 1920s. The Israeli government has ultimately decided the cost of a few of its citizens blown off the face of the Earth every few years are worth the permanent aquisition of land. Interestingly, you used to be able to see the Israeli bulldozers illegally clearing away Palestinian villages to make their own on google images, but it has since been removed.
@@brcarter1111 "recognized Palestinian territory" that land was never Palestinian territory before 1948, but if you're referring to the 1967 war, Israel did not start it, and afterwards backed out of Gaza. And that is not Zionism's goal.
@@daniolivia5032 I also want to say thank you. Having civil discourse with someone who disagrees with me on this matter is exceedingly rare these days. There is nothing that would make me happier, after all the centuries of tragedy, to see the people of the Jewish faith have a land of their own where they can live in peace and practice self determination. It is my belief that not anti-semitism, Islamic extremism, nor Palestinian nationhood present the greatest threat to this dream, but instead it is the current practices of the Israeli government. I would offer the same advice to a Palestinian, who in his frustration, sought to fire a rocket in the direction of Israel. Using violence and hatred to achieve their goal is suicidal to their cause. If Isreal rightfully demands self determination and the right to exist, why shouldn't Palestine?
I believe we should call for a referendum. The most rightful thing is a referendum made by true original land owners (Palestineans, including native Palestinean jews) and they decide the state they want. Simple. Very simple. It's not a thousands of years matter. Otherwise, the immigrants who stole the land should go back to where they came from.
Hmm I'm curious if you still believe this video is a bunch of lies now that 3 years have passed. More information has come out confirming the mistreatment and atrocities committed against Palestinians. Western mass media and especially the US mass media hasn't changed their message much over the years. Fortunately, the internet allows us access to other media sources.
@@mysticmemer4887 Not sure if I agree. Going purely off his original comment. he literally stated that the video was "a bunch of lying crap" and that it was "economical with the truth," which is just saying more of the same. I'm not sure how I could interpret it any other way than he doesn't believe the video.
This video starts out at a certain point in time without acknowledging the history before it. Wars have gone back and forth over the centuries. If you look back to the maps of the Roman Empire you will clearly see the area called Judea where the Roman's recognized Harod the Great - King of Judea. If you place a wolf and rabbit together in the same area one will destroy the other much like the way wars have worked over the centuries. War is not fair - plain and simple. People with such strong religious beliefs will never come to a common ground. You could take small children from every country in the world and raise them together in a group to respect and care for each other and never separate their beliefs with different religions and they would end up far better than the world of adults we have today. That being said in this day and age some religions advocate far more violence than others. Historically it does sound like the British promised the area to too many varying groups and then pawned the problem off to the UN, which accomplishes very little as usual.
There are so many blatant lies in this video and lots of important information intentionally left out. You know the story of the younger sibling that constantly hits the older one? Eventually the older one has had enough and hits back. Then the younger one goes crying to his parents, lies and manipulates so that the older one will get into trouble. The younger one acts all innocent and all the blame is put on the older one. Palestinians are the younger sibling that provoke non stop and then manipulate the situation for world sympathy.
This is simply bunch of semi truth, that are worse that lies: 1. The west bank was a Jordanian land, not a Palestinian, Israel win this land in a war, signed a peace agreement with Jordan so they handed this area to Israel. 2. Gaza strip was an Egyptian territory, that been given to Israel at 1982, in the peace agreement, 3. The Palestinian start terrorizing Israel far before the so called occupation, the first terror attack happened in 1954, while the war with Jordan when the west bank conquered happened in 1967. The real problem with the Palestinians is that they are Muslims radicals that try to kill all the infidels this means also the creators of this movie. The Palestinians are Sunni's and the are close to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) that tool over all Syria and Iraq. So think who you whish to support, extreme Islamic nation that wants to kill all infidels or Israel the only true democracy in the middle east.
