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Big John was waaay out of line announcing he threw away J 10 on the turn. That's how Luda was able to shove. Am i the only one who picks up on shit like this?
If she doesn’t want to play anymore I’m willing to start a collection to fund her. The only condition she continues to talk to the massage boy that way
"How does he find that rip?" He's a bad player and the only reason he isn't bankrupt is the river bailing him out like it's the government and he's Wallstreet, that's how.
Specially since that Ace was the worst turn card possible, linglin could easily have JTo there, and he shoves anyways. He could at least fold on the 9 or A turn... suspicious.
@@yagolandriel7042 Yeah I think someone chalked it up once to like he just takes a ton of chances and is notorious for it. I'm sorry but at some point it's too often, and he's "too lucky".
I think more he is just not willing to fold, so just wants to shove turn instead of having to make a river decision for a tiny bet. Still a pretty terrible play by Luda, since hes basically always getting called drawing extremely thin, and there are just so few bluffs in that spot.
No that was 100% the best and right play by Luda. Reason being is linlin would have raised with KQ so the only other thing she could have is K8 and K8 is not the nuts, and K8 would not play it like that. So in theory luda basically has the nuts with Two pair on the board and how the hand has been played.
??? do you play poker, its been bet and reraised with original raiser still to act after him , if he knew she was flatting the call I am sure he would, but what if she reraises and luda raises again .... then what , position is everything
@@jamesroberts1504"standard fold" what kind of flop are you expecting when you play J-10o? If K-Q on the flop isn't good enough then clearly you must not play J-10 at all, because it's money thrown at the trash can
@@JeanFoutre-yi5usstandard fold for the action. It was a limped pot, someone overbets the flop for 16bb, then got check raised to 60 bb. Would you call 60 bb here when you only have 1 bb invested into the pot? Not to mention you are not closing the action, the original bettor behind you may raise again, which was exactly what happened here.
@@yanmingzhang420 I agree it's a standard fold for the action but given the players involved I think a call would have been just as reasonable. Also Mike's bigger issue was his check on the flop. Keep in mind Linglin is I think second to last to act, and could just be attempting to steal since she has 6 people checking in front of her. Given the fact that it's Luda raising he could just as likely be doing it because he thinks Linglin is trying to steal. Unless you believe Linglin is going to reopen the action calling Luda's raise with an open ended to the nuts against a maniac who will be happy to barrel into you if you spike your hand. Now if Mike had bet his straight draw, Linglin probably folds, assuming Luda still raises, now Mike can call the raise and close the action, which would be a superior situation compared to what he ends up in. GTO wise you're absolutely correct, just offering an exploitative perspective given the players involved.
Big John is a nit. He also has to call a 3-bet with Linglin behind. Luda and Linglin cover him. It's not an ideal situation to go potentially go all-in on a draw, especially considering if your opponents have pairs, two pairs, or a set. Playing against Luda ends in two scenarios: You win big or you lose big. There's no in between. Standard fold IMO.
Big John is a nit. He also has to call a 3-bet with Linglin behind. Luda and Linglin cover him. It's not an ideal situation to go potentially go all-in on a draw, especially considering if your opponents have pairs, two pairs, or a set. Playing against Luda ends in two scenarios: You win big or you lose big. There's no in between. Standard fold IMO.
I mean, it was a family pot and nobody had anything worth raising. She SHOULDN'T have a set or better 2 pair so it makes sense that his 2 pair is good. Not that hard to figure out if you know your opponents.
I don't know why Big John didn't call the 3K raise on the flop. Unless he knew Linglin was going to re-raise. I guess he might have known Linglin and Luda could get crazy. But then why is he in this game? Luda had an 8. So, there's only one way for Linglin to have 88 preflop. She would have raised pre-flop in that case. What hand could she have that's ahead of Luda that she wouldn't have raised pre-flop? I say NONE! That's why he did what he did. I suppose A8 is possible for a holding that beats Luda - 6 combinations.
It seems like J10 was in a great position to take control of that board. Why check the flop when you have an open-ended straight draw with only 2 players behind you?
Big John is a nit. He also has to call a 3-bet with Linglin behind. Luda and Linglin cover him. It's not an ideal situation to go potentially go all-in on a draw, especially considering if your opponents have pairs, two pairs, or a set. Playing against Luda ends in two scenarios: You win big or you lose big. There's no in between. Standard fold IMO.
Big John is a nit. He also has to call a 3-bet with Linglin behind. Luda and Linglin cover him. It's not an ideal situation to go potentially go all-in on a draw, especially considering if your opponents have pairs, two pairs, or a set. Playing against Luda ends in two scenarios: You win big or you lose big. There's no in between. Standard fold IMO.
Big John is a nit. He also has to call a 3-bet with Linglin behind. Luda and Linglin cover him. It's not an ideal situation to go potentially go all-in on a draw, especially considering if your opponents have pairs, two pairs, or a set. Playing against Luda ends in two scenarios: You win big or you lose big. There's no in between. Standard fold IMO.
Congrats on being completely results oriented. Whats your comment going to be if the turn is a complete brick? Congrats on the good fold Big J? Or whats your logic here? (I dont think there is any btw)
Does JBoog know that A8o is not a good hand to put in 20x raise preflop? Or does he just dont care? I mean clearly he cares seeing him whine every pot he loses.
linglin dropping and tilting to jboggs lol the worst luck guy he dont care haha, i be on tilt too the guy that always in on the hand with like k 7 and hits his king
Big John is a nit. He also has to call a 3-bet with Linglin behind. Luda and Linglin cover him. It's not an ideal situation to go potentially go all-in on a draw, especially considering if your opponents have pairs, two pairs, or a set. Playing against Luda ends in two scenarios: You win big or you lose big. There's no in between. Standard fold IMO.
@@TDotRedemption well that depends, big John calls then LL most likely folds, there isn’t a world where she raises with the hand she has after BJ calls, that being said yes I can see the cards, but there’s no way on earth I fold that hand there, it all boils down to do you play your draws strong, passive or weak as hell… I do the former, not the latter… it’s how you win money. You don’t call pre and pick up the nut draw and fold to a little action.. he should have raised. And yes, big John is a nit. That we agree on. Do you think Luda or Mariano folds J10 in that spot?!? The answer is no, so it all boils down to how nitty the player is.
@@georgejung5429 I really wonder where you guys come from. Absolute horrendous analysis by you, and delivering it with such a conviction. Its a clear fold given the action. Obviously you call a single bet there, but a 60bb 3-bet with a player to act behind who could simply shove on you is not a winning play. It just confirms that you're a massively losing player. By your logic he should just 4bet rip his stack in with an open-ender? Lol you really have no clue what you're talking about, and Im pretty sure you dont even believe what youre saying.
What is she whining about? She played both hands terribly. Especially the second one. Just flats jacks when’s way ahead of ludas 3betting range. Then bets the river with a K out there when she has showdown value in a pretty big pot already. Check that shit down 100% of the time.
Honestly linglin keeps checking her cards. Everytime you look at them, you give him information. Memorize your cards, obviously if you check, you don’t have a set. Just for example
