J. R. R. Tolkien vs George R. R. Martin. Epic Rap Battles of History

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J. R. R. Tolkien vs George R. R. Martin. Epic Rap Battles of History
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Комментарии : 112 тыс.

@whatisupmyfellowamericans8808 3 года назад

0/10 not realistic IRL Tolkien would have created a new language specifically designed for rap and mastered it all within two minutes

@KZG.Silent_Scribe 3 года назад

Dude I felt that so much 🤣

@QuintarFarenor 3 года назад

I try to imagine how a language especially made for rapping would sound like. Would every word end the same way so it all would rhyme? I wonder.

@tiffanyl4829 3 года назад

I don't normally say this as it is over-used but...Yaaaaaassss, queen!

@HarmonySword 3 года назад

It would have been overkill. That's why Tolkien humored Martin by beating him in his own language.

@Alisibeth_Talia212 3 года назад

FELT THAT. He starts dissing him in Black Speech and Elvish.

@alexguo5351 8 лет назад

that's what I'm Tolkien about

@stanmagnum1535 8 лет назад

+Sam Wilson you dont know what you're Tolkein about

@legojackgaming 8 лет назад

I'll be Tolkien about this battle for ages

@timmytohns5479 8 лет назад

+Sam Wilson Oh crap,Tolkien puns.

@MrUndersolo 8 лет назад

Damn, I wish I thought of that!

@MrUndersolo 8 лет назад

+timmy tohns Yeah, it can be Hobbit-forming.

@robertjustice3814 Год назад

Tolkien: “Brag all you like about your show, George But take this to heart. As a writer you got nothin’ ‘Cause I FINISH WHAT I START!!”

@oscarsalazar5876 Год назад

Yes but unfortunately also, no. He die and his son finished many of his other books. So this wouldn't be accurate to Tolkien.

@bitterfox518 Год назад

@@oscarsalazar5876, but he still managed to end the main story.

@spongeyspikes09 Год назад

@@oscarsalazar5876 and considering the fact Martin refuses to let another writer end the books if he ever passes away It's plausible that he will NEVER finish his books

@Novictus Год назад

@@spongeyspikes09 The man just really doesn't appreciate his fanbase.

@spongeyspikes09 Год назад

@@Novictus at this point I would rather read fanfiction of his work knowing fanfic writers write faster and better than he will ever be And just to spite him

@EliteWarrior1026 Год назад

When Tolkien says "You're a pirate! You even stole my R R!" he's actually making the Sign Language symbol for the letter R!

@rejvaik00 Год назад

Yeah American sign language the British sign language for the letter R is different

@Abtron Год назад

In my place it's slang for c*nt.

@NevTheDeranged Год назад

but it's also kinda like a pirate hook, so... double meaning!

@Citadel_local Год назад

@@NevTheDeranged That's what I thought it was.

@Laiser Год назад

@@NevTheDeranged Man, even the visuals are deep. ERB is too good.

@robinalonso-desouza7245 4 года назад

"My show's the hottest thing on HBO" Well. That didn't age well.

@jdbarr769 4 года назад

When Arya nothing personal kid and subverted expectations; Wow, what a stinker!

@humanskinnergames4520 4 года назад

I swear I saw Scott gimple in the background behind the dragon like if u get the joke

@vampahh1171 4 года назад

It's three years since this video came out...

@ouchiegiverjr 4 года назад

Dr Heaven MD yeah...sigh

@purity_2428 4 года назад

i mean it still is i am on season 2 its crazy

@Shadowkirby14 4 года назад

Unlike George R.R. Martiin, Tolkien knows how this rap battle ends.

@therealwild1 3 года назад

Where is the lie?

@ethanh6370 3 года назад

BURN

@maryw9320 3 года назад

At least Tolkien FINISHED his story!

@vinzcastro9304 3 года назад

@@maryw9320 Tolkien wrote until death... Martin is still alive

@maryw9320 3 года назад

@@vinzcastro9304 True, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed he does finish the Ice and Fire series, but he's not exactly a spring chicken and there are still two books to go.

@josephcoulter6954 11 месяцев назад

I love that it starts with Martin claiming the title of 'Lord', but Tolkien finishes with reminding Martin that even if he's a lord, Tolkien is still the king.

@dennisvondoom 10 месяцев назад

Lord and king are the same

@saadwani9175 10 месяцев назад

@@dennisvondoomstudy a bit more

@Surno69 10 месяцев назад

@@dennisvondoomnope, no they’re not

@RoninDave 9 месяцев назад

@@dennisvondoom maybe in your bizzaro world but not the real world

@drrockkso8882 9 месяцев назад

@dennisvondoom LOL no they absolutely are not. "Lord" is a title used by noblemen who have hereditary lands and/or titles but are not part the immediate royal family. Kings and princes use titles like "Your Highness", "Your Majesty", "Your Grace", etc

@eruditonaranja27 Год назад

Tolkien taking off the Ring of Power and appearing in the intro is so genius

@user-ww1tp7ls1v 11 месяцев назад

and therefore saying he didn't need the ring of power to finish this battle.

@mr.elveaner9723 11 месяцев назад

@@user-ww1tp7ls1v He cannot use it, none of us can

@theenderdestruction2362 10 месяцев назад

@@mr.elveaner9723he can use it but I feel like that's mostly to do with his own power as the author dealing with the ring that or sauron actually respects him or fears him or both

@jdtesch86 10 месяцев назад

holy crap i've watched this video actual dozens of times and only after reading this comment realized what was happening

@theenderdestruction2362 10 месяцев назад

@@jdtesch86 did you also how sauron was watching over the entire battle the entire time as well?

@laurahersey4360 4 года назад

Tolkien did all his work on a typewriter and still managed to complete his stories.

@generalawesome7279 4 года назад

But Martin is still alive which means he is still writing his books and can still complete them. These comments are gonna be invalid unless Martin dies without finishing.

@ioanaberbece1994 4 года назад

Oooooo, BURN!!! 😂😂😂👍

@LdyVder 4 года назад

@@generalawesome7279 Either Martin is a slow writer, has massive writer's block, or his editors have a lot of work, but it shouldn't take five years on average to release a book, especially one in a series of them. It can take that long to get the first book published, but it shouldn't take that long for the rest in the series. The Sookie Stackhouse books by Charlaine Harris was released on a yearly basis with 13 books total. Which were the basis for True Blood. Robert Jordan released 11 of the 14 Wheel of Time books in a 15 year span. Then dying and had enough notes for someone else to finish the series which included Jordan's epilogue in the last book of the series. I doubt Martin has that and I truly doubt the last two books in the series get published any time soon.

@godfreyofbouillon966 4 года назад

Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth is a collection of stories and essays by J. R. R. Tolkien that were never completed during his lifetime, but were edited by his son Christopher Tolkien and published in 1980. What I am trying to say that stupid fanboys who have no idea what they are talking about is extremely cringy.

@fermintenava5911 4 года назад

Comparing them on that level is fruitless anyway, because Tolkien needed six years for the Lord of the Rings alone and a lifetime to edit the Silmarillon. The Hobbit and other smaller writings were only finished because he wrote them for special occasions and with lowered standards.

@RexTiredAF 4 года назад

"You even stole my RR" Yep, Tolkien won this round.

@W123FOoL 4 года назад

That did make me LOL!

@JigenLune 4 года назад

He was even gesturing the letter R in American Sign Language as he was saying that

@semv.e3885 4 года назад

And he even said in the line before ‘you’re a pirate’ the proceeds to make the R’s sound like ‘argh argh’. The thought that goes into these lines still amazes me today

@pellejohansen 4 года назад

What does RR mean?

@pyanbredersen1235 4 года назад

This RRound

@00_BRUHH Год назад

Considering Martin's actually a huge fan of Tolkien, i feel like he'd be honored to be insulted, fat shamed, and roasted by his idol

@shanedog007 7 месяцев назад

This is good stuff :)

@crows_are_superior4464 5 месяцев назад

Who wouldn’t be?

@rambleonwithrosie 4 месяца назад

I don't think there's a nerd living who wouldn't be honored to receive a verbal beat down from Tolkien 😂

@AskarTheIt 2 месяца назад

Is he really a fan?

@00_BRUHH 2 месяца назад

@@AskarTheIt yes, he is. Martin based Game of thrones off of LOTR, and he even despises "Tolkien Imitators" who, in his words, sell "Degraded Goods" of Tolkien's work

@michalsoukup1021 9 месяцев назад

One thing I am sad they did not include is that Tolkien, having every excuse not to go to war again, being past draft age, and in reserve occupation, volunteered for frontline duty in WWII.

@KNJpd 3 месяца назад

What a legend. Putting him up against Martin seems as insulting as putting Roosevelt against Trump/Clinton

@BogaSlawa 17 дней назад

@@KNJpd Roosevelt was worse than either....he simply dressed and spoke better

@lanceclement4087 10 дней назад

@@BogaSlawayou’re an idiot

@elisabethhughes6005 3 дня назад

Heartwarming and somehow so sad at the same time. What a dignified man.

@joshwist556 18 часов назад

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@@BogaSlawa How? The fucking Chad was fighting corporate monopolies left and right, enacted the national forests to preserve our landscape, AND GAVE YOU THE FDA! He is the sole reason Corporate rats can’t sell you feces as chocolate and human meat as beef. Trump and Biden don’t have the brain nor spine to do a single shit Theodore did. Say what you want about his imperialistic thoughts but he was at least fucking honest about it, which is already better than all the rats we call presidents today hiding and lying through their teeth every second.

@lilacthornbutt1503 4 года назад

"My show's the hottest thing on HBO" This. didn't age well.

@wincentivan2684 4 года назад

D&D did Tolkien a favor.

@chabri2000 3 года назад

they set HBO on fire (and kingslanding civilians) , so stills counts as being hot

@xx_thelordandsaviour69_xx81 3 года назад

Copied comment

@pwnmeisterage 3 года назад

Tolkien's work has been a literary classic for almost a century and will remain so for centuries to come. Martin's work was a couple good books followed by a bunch of pulp books followed by a popular fast-food show. An already half-forgotten entertainment with no lasting legacy.

@chabri2000 3 года назад

@@pwnmeisterage if you only watch till season 5, it is very good, the problem started when they started to diverge from the books and make everyone teleport

@VampireFan-rf5kb Год назад

George R.R. Martin: Your hobbit hole heroes can't handle my throne! J.R.R. Tolkien: *Challenge accepted.*

@thatjeff7550 Год назад

Danny DeVito as JRRT: So that's when I started blastin'!

@Adashofhawtsauc3 Год назад

“But news flash, THE GENRES CALLED FANTASY ITS MEANT TO BE UNREALISTIC YOU MYOPIC MANATEE” he’s got a point ngl Edit:this comment is a year old, I forgot about it until someone replied today, I’m genuinely surprised that it’s still going

@bananasmatter1321 Год назад

Tolkien didn't believe this though. For him fantasy was as real as any other story. Read "On Fairy Stories" and you'll see.

@FirefulXD Год назад

no that's actually not how fantasy works. you're thinking about fairy tales

@bananasmatter1321 Год назад

@@FirefulXD fairy tales which are part of a people's mythology which is what fantasy was in the first place: a mythos for the English...

@FirefulXD Год назад

@@bananasmatter1321 fantasy has very obviously evolved from fairy tales since then. sorry i was replying to the original comment/line, not your comment, which i agree with

@bananasmatter1321 Год назад

@@FirefulXD just read "On Fairy Stories"

@leostav750 3 года назад

"Even the names of your characters suck" Bold words from someone who named a dragon "Drogon".

@Riri-oj1zs 3 года назад

Against someone naming his dragons: Glaurung Smaug and.... Ancalagon

@aceofspadesguy4913 3 года назад

@@Riri-oj1zs Scatha

@SoulGizmo 3 года назад

Lmao

@litzzon1 3 года назад

Bold for someone, who called one of the main characters Sam...it feels somehow familiar

@vwgames49 3 года назад

Tolkien named a tree "Treebeard"

@dudleybalrog7348 8 лет назад

This took until season 5 because Martin needed that long to write his verses.

@demetriusstone7791 8 лет назад

Ha!

@exxocraft2216 8 лет назад

+Matt Crowell Roasted!

@AndrewCantley 8 лет назад

+Matt Crowell Haha this is brilliant

@kinglink9541 8 лет назад

+patience 2277 So you are spam trolling an ERB video with anti-semitic nonsense? Really? Are you that pathetic?

@user-zk1ic1gb5i 8 лет назад

+patience 2281 could you get any more random? So what if Jews hold a lot of power? would you be as alarmed as you are now if a follower of the Aesir , held a lot of power?

@ethansexton2590 11 месяцев назад

7 years later and this is still an absolute beat down by Tolkien

@kemp9842 9 месяцев назад

It's an even worse beatdown given just how poorly Martin's "hottest show on HBO" line aged.

@MphoLukoto-lx9jk 8 месяцев назад

@@kemp9842house of the dragon enters the chat

@kemp9842 8 месяцев назад

@@MphoLukoto-lx9jk Still doesn't erase just how badly Game of Thrones fumbled in the end goal.

@MphoLukoto-lx9jk 8 месяцев назад

@@kemp9842 "hottest show on HBO" line still stands though

@vylbird8014 6 месяцев назад

And we're still waiting on Georgie-Boy to finish up his story.

@achintyarajimwale618 Год назад

The funny part is that after the first verse, Martin's lines all talked about Tolkien's works. Even in a rap battle, Martin could only talk about Tolkien's works and not his. That is the level Tolkien plays at.

@gregpeloquin6345 9 месяцев назад

He talked about his own too... about how he makes characters and then kills them... Granted, I agree Tolkien crushed here...but still that's not entirely accurate.

@dom1941 8 месяцев назад

“I’ll cut you like my teeth on Beauty and the Beast” “My show’s the hottest thing on HBO” So what about these two lines?

@FilmyDost007 7 месяцев назад

A Song of Ice and Fire>>>Lotr

@kevinerives8975 7 месяцев назад

@@FilmyDost007 I know its sacrilege but I also like ASOIAF more that LOTR.

@HivefleetMagoladon 7 месяцев назад

@@kevinerives8975 I think the biggest problem with LotR for a modern audience is that it's TOO influential. It's pretty much defined and shaped the genre of Fantasy since it was published, meaning that to a modern reader it seems cliché and stereotypical.

@AtariDad 8 лет назад

I'm not so sure about who won, but I do know who lost: Sean Bean.

@birdmn9930 8 лет назад

Omfg xD

@pandazatthedisco 8 лет назад

+Atari Dad HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, bless you man.

@TorqueBacklash 8 лет назад

And now I'm sad

@SunniLeBoeuf 8 лет назад

I cri

@ssjluxray7435 8 лет назад

+Atari Dad just don't Robb hear that and you should be good, nope never mind. Uh make that the King in the North

@blessedstuff4309 3 года назад

When you realize both authors killed off sean bean in the first

@vyktorehon5995 3 года назад

HAHA

@RachelG1979 3 года назад

Yeah yeah yeah killing Sean Bean is tight.

@leadnitrate2194 3 года назад

@@RachelG1979 it's super easy, barely an inconvenience

@waywardgoddess7219 3 года назад

When you're type cast as......the dead guy 😂😂😂😂

@RachelG1979 3 года назад

@@waywardgoddess7219 wow wow wow wow

@LoreleiSlayer Год назад

Martin: All your bad guys die and your good guys survive. Meanwhile Silmarillion: *+/- 150 named characters dead in just one book, mostly elves and humans of good side* Also Silmarillion: *Battle of unnumbered tears* Again Silmarillion: *Betrayals, fall of whole kingdoms of good side, Turin's life in torment and misery* Yeah... like hell they survive, Fatman.

@starrynight6268 Год назад

Not mentioning those who died in The Hobbit and the LoTr Trilogy itself: Thorin Kill Fili Balín Ori Boromir Theoden Isildur Elendil Aragon and Arwen (After they ruled Gondor)

@jessicacaron5084 Год назад

The funny thing is there is a character in ASOIAF named Beren Tallhart - but of course that's a character from the one story that ends well! (also you forgot the time where they kill seven named characters in one sentence and almost half of them are only mentioned in that one sentence)

@pietervanderveld3096 8 месяцев назад

As Tolkien said, both Jon Snow and Martin know nothing

@tubetorpedo 4 месяца назад

Also survived is a relative term, not all losses are physical. E.g. Frodo who was practically main character of LotR never full recovered his journey and only Sam and maybe Gandalf even knew the totality of what he had sacrificed by being the Ring bearer. Because his deeds were not on battlefields he never even got any recognition back home, while he was the key character (among Sam) in good guys victory. Ending of LotR was quite sad (or bittersweet, depends) for that reason alone, all who did not die did not survive either. While Tolkiens mythological/fantastical history was quite "clean" (no sex, gore or muck), they still had quite a few levels behind them. Even Hobbit had it's bits of losses while it was done as kids book.

@orchardhouse9241 15 дней назад

Oh, those Feanorians! You didn't even mention the three Kinslayings.

@guy3557 Год назад

Tolkien's ending verse references the three books in order: "You can't reach this fellow" (The Fellowship of the Ring) "Shit, I'm too Towering" (The Two Towers) "Every time I battle, it's return of the King." (The Return of the King)

@Suo_kongque Год назад

Actually, I’m pretty fellow, shit is close to fellow ship. So even closer

@rowdyreidgirl Год назад

Woo!!

@martavdz4972 Год назад

And the second verse could be understood as "I´m Two-Towering", so it´s even more brilliant 🙂

@bonnecherie 9 месяцев назад

All of his works got a mention, and I love how they incorporated them in.

@ftd888 2 года назад

“But you’ve got a hairy foot fetish, dog.” Bold words for someone who’s story starts and ends due to incest.

@lunaangeleclipse9745 2 года назад

lmao

@yunehversomi1458 2 года назад

I think partly that’s inspired by history where nobles and royalty often kept it in the family and married each other. Because Martin does borrow a lot from history.

@theunholygamer6474 2 года назад

I mean that's how it was back then lol u can't change history

@Deaglan753 2 года назад

@@yunehversomi1458 not just that but there were also brothers and sisters from different Kingdoms and empire would marry heirs from another empire or kingdom, in which sometimes was one of there family members, a good example would be the Hapsburgs

@thossi09 2 года назад

@@yunehversomi1458 For the most part , people (even royalty and nobles) avoided marrying their siblings.

@CitizenKahne1992 3 года назад

Martin: Fired shots. Tolkien: Launched tactical nuke.

@legomaster9190 3 года назад

Yeap, basically that's what happened here! And I love it!!

@josephstalin364 3 года назад

Moral of the story: Don’t mess with someone who cut their teeth in the trenches of the Somme

@code.6421 3 года назад

30-0 on him🤣

@theftparrot5750 3 года назад

Martin: Brings a Light Machine Gun Tolkein: *AC130 ABOVE*

@nightfalls5462 3 года назад

he just vaporized him...

@rhyssdavidv.marasigan7469 Год назад

The fact im watching this 7 years later show how timeless ERB is

@DeaconShadow Год назад

I've probably watched it three dozen times at this point.

@allemagneproducer 11 месяцев назад

but who are u anyway :D jk

@rhyssdavidv.marasigan7469 10 месяцев назад

@@allemagneproducer im a random 11 yr old

@artbargra 8 месяцев назад

Unlike that HBO line *wink*

@everlasting9292 Год назад

Also, as someone who still sheds a tear over the ending over The Hobbit no matter how many times I read the book or watch any iteration of the movies, not all Tolkien’s good guys survive. 😭

@jgamer2228 Год назад

Thorin deserved to be King under the Mountain if any dwarf did

@TheMacC117 Год назад

Boromir over here sighing cause no one remembers him..

@tljsucks1166 Год назад

@@TheMacC117 If only Robert had gone hunting sober, wait no…

@PieBoy4242 Год назад

Don't forget Frodo. He may be alive, but he'll never be the same and he'll never be with his brothers again. It's one of the more poignant parts of the Lord of the Rings. Like veterans of WWI, some of the survivors never really came home.

@OshaVids Год назад

well with Thorin's death bed speech, how could you not?

@timjefferson8076 2 года назад

Why did they not mention the fact that Tolkien accomplished something that Martin probably never will: FINISHED THE STORY.

@snurdburglar6854 2 года назад

this was years ago bruh

@edwardhardwick2180 2 года назад

Not quite. Tolkien never finished the Silmarillion, as it was published after his death by his son Christopher Tolkien, who edited together the various tales his father had written into a cohesive whole. However, Tolkien does have an excuse for this as unlike Martin, Tolkien wasn't a full time author as he had a full time job as a professor of lingustics at Oxford University. He didn't write these books because it was his job or to make money, he wrote them because it damn well pleased him to do so.

@Kyuuketsuki47 2 года назад

@@edwardhardwick2180 What does the Silmarillion have to do with anything? JRR Tolkien wrote two stories and finished them. The Hobbit and LotR. So what if he failed to finish his third? GRRM has 1 story, which has been going since 1991. It took Tolkien 12 years to write LotR, and like you said, he had a full time profession ON TOP of that. Heck, its been a decade since the last ASOIF novel.

@samhowes4738 2 года назад

@@edwardhardwick2180 the thing is Tolkien couldn’t finish the Silmarillion because he died. Martin just isn’t writing his books

@theteutonking3306 2 года назад

@@edwardhardwick2180 also the fact that well, _Tolkien fucking died_

@user-oi6gr8xw9h 4 года назад

Tolkien could have rapped in multiple different languages- that he created

@Reven157 4 года назад

English, Dutch, french, german, icelandic (for some reason) sindarin and probably more

@dekaw9138 4 года назад

Raviv Amorij he means elvish and blackspeak

@zanewolfe9754 4 года назад

@@dekaw9138 To be fair, Tolkien was also a linguistics specialist, being able to read, write, and speak multiple languages. However he ALSO created far more than just Elvish and Blackspeak. He has five or six languages to his name, each of which he created by using his knowledge of real languages.

@SuperPuzzler 4 года назад

And still would've rapped rings around Martin, but this was the Rap to Rule Them All.

@user-vq6ik4kk1r 4 года назад

Я Смерть I read your comment so wrong 🤦🏽‍♀️

@Craxin01 Год назад

I only recently learned George R.R. Martin was a writer and producer for the Ron Pearlman and Linda Hamilton show Beauty and the Beast, so I totally missed that lyric he said about cutting his teeth on Beauty and the Beast the first time watching.

@christianboehlefeld5168 Год назад

Totally unrelated; R.L. Stine of Goosebumps fame was the head writer for a Nickelodeon children's show called Eureka's Castle, it was a puppet show and it was awesome.

@kitsunedude 11 месяцев назад

The "I cut my teeth in the Somme while you LARPED your Santa Clause ass through through Vietnam" is colder than anything else dropped

@llywyllngryffyn8053 5 лет назад

Tolkien won but now, looking back he wins for a second reason: He actually finished his books.

@AaronGanaron 5 лет назад

Yeah, I was surprised that wasn't a line in there somewhere. Maybe Tolkien didn't want to sink that low Edit: I forgot that, yes, he hadn't finished. I'd been thinking of the main series, forgetting the Silmarrilion was part of it

@Laksujaakso 5 лет назад

Well... actually quite many of his stories were finished and published after his death by his son Christopher.

@melkorlapich802 5 лет назад

Janne Laakso most of my favorites are the ones published posthumously but more or less he finished them, he just considered that despite being what most would be fine with publishing wasn’t up to snuff for him, had a high standard for himself

@SwaggerNauts365 5 лет назад

Janne Laakso Cuz he died.

@SpokaneSurvivor 5 лет назад

For real tho

@VPSantiago 3 года назад

Tolkien absolutely obliterated Martin. "got my children making millions off my Silmarillions" - Perfection

@TheMeta141 2 года назад

what's even funnier is The Silmarrilion isn't actually a book, it's a bunch of random things Tolkien wrote that his son cobbled together into a somewhat coherent book

@JM-ch4mo 2 года назад

It should have been Martin vs Rawling, with Tolkien coming in at the end to school both of them.

@crucif0x 2 года назад

@@TheMeta141 "somewhat coherent" is a very kind way of putting it. Every time I pick it up I get a headache

@esh529 2 года назад

That line actually aged well… as long as the Amazon series kills it lol

@Q1nt0 2 года назад

@@JM-ch4mo maybe after the LOTR series we can see something like that

@nightangelx1513 Год назад

Love how Martin seems so agitated and he’s trying so hard. Yet Tolkien is just super calm like he’s speaking to a child.

@coop_dawg207gaming2 Год назад

Because he is

@laayiv9449 Год назад

From memory, Tolkein genuinely did act like that.

@neonfroot 11 месяцев назад

tolkien is screaming here

@andytheawesome7592 11 месяцев назад

⁠@@laayiv9449In 1938, he was negotiating with a German publisher to get The Hobbit published there. It was about to happen, but when they asked him for proof of his Aryan ancestry, he backed out of the deal with the greatest of all possible roasts: “Thank you for your letter. I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by arisch. I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people. My great-great-grandfather came to England in the eighteenth century from Germany: the main part of my descent is therefore purely English, and I am an English subject - which should be sufficient. I have been accustomed, nonetheless, to regard my German name with pride, and continued to do so throughout the period of the late regrettable war, in which I served in the English army. I cannot, however, forbear to comment that if impertinent and irrelevant inquiries of this sort are to become the rule in matters of literature, then the time is not far distant when a German name will no longer be a source of pride.”

@Tryo707 11 месяцев назад

@@andytheawesome7592Holy crap what a smackdown. What a damn boss.

@vylenkenree2776 Год назад

i love this, but weirdly the one thing I'm really impressed about is how Peter managed to sell this old and fragile man with subtle body language. its really impressive

@drrockkso8882 9 месяцев назад

Peter is amazing at nailing the body language and mannerisms of every character he plays.

@mithrasabyss2765 2 месяца назад

Tbh Tolkien was actually pretty fit even late in life.. IMO Martin is a lot less fit than Tolkien was at a similar age

@Holy98989898 3 года назад

FunFact. Sir Christopher Lee was the only one in the lord of the rings cast who met Tolkien IRL.

@elaineb7065 3 года назад

And that must have been one epic meeting as they compared their world wars (Tolkien in the first, Lee in the second). Or maybe several...

@dmt_useless2254 3 года назад

I know tolkien wanted him to play grndalf but he ended up playing saruman

@Solnoric 3 года назад

@@elaineb7065 more like it was maybe 90 seconds as tolkien said hello to a friend at the same table while Chris was locked up starstruck. According to christopher lee, at any rate.

@karol9205 3 года назад

@@elaineb7065 tolkien and count dooku must look epic

@OMARG431 3 года назад

I-N R-E-A-L L-I-F-E. You're welcome

@mikeycityify 3 года назад

“You’re a pirate! You even stole my R R”. That’s respectively deep.

@Kaydee815 3 года назад

Esp with the ASL sign for R.

@raymondsison9186 3 года назад

Had me chucklin' 😂

@AndreBarnett 3 года назад

@@Kaydee815 Damn thanks for that

@sehbaanabbasi 3 года назад

and the ending " everytime I battle it's return of the king " Martin just got owned

@tankythemagnorite9855 3 года назад

And he stole the name Drogo from Tolkien. It's Frodo's father.

@theunknown7540 Год назад

"You're a pirate you even stole my R.R." That line is underrated.

@Trucmuch Год назад

Of all the lines, that's the one most praised in the comments. So, of course, it's "underrated" 🤦

@panda4247 2 месяца назад

undeRRated?

@deelaw. Год назад

“Every time I battle it’s the return of the king” that’s a dope line

@martavdz4972 Год назад

You can´t reach this FELLOW, I´m too TOWERING (or Two Towering...?) and every time I battle it´s the RETURN OF THE KING" they managed to slip in all the books in the right order

@steinistbaum2236 4 года назад

I was not expecting Martin to finish a rap battle, I thought he'd quit halfway through.

@bretsheeley4034 4 года назад

My guess is that Martin started rapping for ERB Season 1 and promised 7 verses.

@kylexinye1990 4 года назад

For what it's worth, Martin clearly finishes some things. Like his meals.

@roseholegha4883 4 года назад

@@kylexinye1990 DAYUM

@LolLol-cg8en 4 года назад

I mean Tolkien wasn’t much better

@sr71silver 4 года назад

@@LolLol-cg8en at least Tolkien had the dignity to keep writing till he died.

@Tuima11 4 года назад

As Pratchett said of fantasy writers: "We are all standing on Mount Tolkien."

@BloodyBay 4 года назад

Even a magnificent and monumental writer like Terry Pratchett must pay homage to the One True King (though Pratchett being a humble, down-to-earth man despite all his fame helped). We all must. And not just authors and readers; we tabletop gamers must pay homage to Tolkien, too. WIthout Dungeons & Dragons, there would never have been any World of Darkness, any Shadowrun, any Harnworld, any Palladium, any Hackmaster, any Bunnies & Burrows or any other tabletop roleplaying games. And without Tolkien's works, there would never have been any Dungeons & Dragons.

@Slawterer098 4 года назад

Incorrect qoute as follows: "J.R.R. Tolkien has become a sort of mountain, appearing in all subsequent fantasy in the way that Mt. Fuji appears so often in Japanese prints. Sometimes it’s big and up close. Sometimes it’s a shape on the horizon. Sometimes it’s not there at all, which means that the artist either has made a deliberate decision against the mountain, which is interesting in itself, or is in fact standing on Mt. Fuji."

@poshboy4749 4 года назад

@Warlok Seriously you're suggesting the Conan the Barbarian is better than Tolkien? I mean it's Conan the Barbarian that argument defeats itself.

@ikpts 4 года назад

@Warlok Its also hard to ignore the similarities between Tolkein's Lord of the Rings and Wagner's 'Ring Cycle' opera series. People who act like Tolkein invented something have never dug any deeper.

@stepanvenclik6374 4 года назад

@@ikpts Right. It is also hard to avoid noticing similarities between Wagner (or Tolkien in that matter) and Scandinavian mythology. Both Tolkien and Wagner based their stories in it, and none of them tried to hide that. You could dismiss almost all modern writing as based on something older. But that is not the point, is it. Adoption of themes is not neccesirly wrong. It matters HOW it is done. Tolkien has IMHO succeeded in making Fantasy mainstream. His creativity was expressed in inventing complex world with thorough history and FREAKING custom languages.

@alexanderohnemus1545 Год назад

Ironically, if the two actually met, based off interviews, I think they would get along.

@vylbird8014 Год назад

And probably write a cookbook.

@martavdz4972 Год назад

They would, but I think Tolkien would have some reservations about Martin´s books. Their values differ a lot.

@charlespayne2002 Год назад

I think Tolkien would be gracious. But I don't think they would "be friends". Just look at Tolkien's contemporaries. Lewis,Barfield,Williams, and Coghill among others. Not to mention the Oxford faculty. Martin just can't contend with that level of intellect. There are few who can.

@gensfleisch332 Год назад

Of course. GRRM loved Tolkiens books.

@davidsekhleyan693 Год назад

@@charlespayne2002 Martin is intelligent as well, he's just lazy.

@michaelkruk Год назад

Petition for C S Lewis vs J K Rowling rap battle. They both have 7 books and are known for their fantastic books of fantasy

@everythingmustgo4478 Год назад

jk would instantly lose 💀

@michaelkruk Год назад

@@everythingmustgo4478 that’s the point

@princessarwen9194 Год назад

Jk Rowling is a writer not an author whereas CS Lewis is an amazing author. Rowling isn’t original so that’s an automatic loss. 😂

@phoenixmastrogiovanni157 Год назад

jk is a garbage author

@VanessaMagick Год назад

Considering they didn't even touch Rowling going off the complete deep end in the Potter/Skywalker battle, I don't think they would want that

@Splooie128 5 лет назад

Tolkien died like 45 years ago but he's still puttin out material. Where you at, George?

@sunbro6998 5 лет назад

ouch.

@thepunkerlive9949 5 лет назад

2 years Beren and luthien & Fall of gondolin. 2017 and 2018... Soon his grandson will probably take over to keep delivering new materials.

@bigred5125 5 лет назад

He's put out 3 GoT books since a Dance with Dragons. He's putting out works, just not the ones many people want.

@wizardpig02_81 5 лет назад

Randy Bowlin Ouch

@hewhoplugwalks 5 лет назад

@@ruairiodonohoe2533 Indeed he did. The Battle of the Somme during the First World War.

@ikemeitz5287 8 лет назад

Tolkien slaughtered him.

@UncleMikeNJ 8 лет назад

+Ikemeitz Ironically.

@speedymexicans706 8 лет назад

It was a tie for me

@MW3theF1NEST 8 лет назад

Totally

@TacticalMetalJoegaming 8 лет назад

+Ikemeitz Yup xD roasted the shit outta him....

@ahhhh108 8 лет назад

+Ikemeitz return of the king indeed shredded George.

@idkijustexist8558 Год назад

what i love about this battle is that even if tolkein won by a mile, its not because the other side was weak, it was because tolkein is that kind of figure thats just untouchable in the literary world. yet regardless of that, martin’s disses and their delivery was brilliant and he would probably win if he was scaled up against any modern author. it kinda makes me glad when erb puts so much effort even into the losing side, you can really see this rap battle has their heart and soul put into it just from the amount of references, flow, acting and editing.

@deanooooooo6496 3 месяца назад

The guys who made this video had too much respect for Tolkien, which is earned, he was from a different time where literary pursuits where more earned and part of everyday. There was no internet or easy research for Tolkien his amusement and entertainment would have been his writing and telling stories to others.

@crabbieappleton Месяц назад

Against any modern author? Yeah, no.

@mr.goliathssmallshow6772 Год назад

The raps are genuinely amazing in this one, but I only just noticed the incorporation of Immigrant Song's beat at the mention of Led Zeppelin (2:07). Genuinely amazes me how even after years there are tiny details I'm still noticing in these things, especially such creative stuff like that. Truly goes to show how much these guys have cared since day 1.

@loganmott2015 10 месяцев назад

Listen to The Battle of Evermore. They literally say “and Gollum’s and the Evil One swept up and slipped away with her” meaning the ring (I think). They were hardcore Tolkien fans. One was into the occult too but let’s speak of those two in the same comment.

@drrockkso8882 9 месяцев назад

@@loganmott2015The lyric you're referring to is actually from "Ramble On", but "The Battle of Evermore" also directly references stuff from LotR including ringwraiths. Zep were massive Tolkein fans.

@christianconrad242 2 года назад

I really love the fact that Tolkien wrote one of the greatest literary franchises of all time because he created a new language and wanted an excuse to use it.

@Talinrogue 2 года назад

not just one new language.but many languages for elves, the ents, dark speech, dwarvish and many more.

@hailtothevic 2 года назад

Languages. Plural. Nobody in history has or ever will be as extra as Tolkien

@hunter30432 2 года назад

It’s actually kind of par for the course for new languages to be created. You can pay people to do that nowadays.

@christianconrad242 2 года назад

@@hunter30432 It is now. But, I don't think that was the case in the 1950s.

@hailtothevic 2 года назад

@@hunter30432 JRR walked so other fantasy writers could run!

@EJUNCO1 7 лет назад

"every time I battle is the return of the king!" Tolkien is a fucking legend

@NoobMicesters 7 лет назад

"shit im two towering"

@MayoZrooski 7 лет назад

Battle this (F)ellow

@apollo8008 7 лет назад

Battle this fellow shit, get it. Alright.

@mf1520 7 лет назад

#Rekt

@apollo8008 7 лет назад

J.R.R Toilet really ? Dude you're not even old enough to watch GoT.

@laxbros62 Год назад

Tolkien's last verse is top 10 bars all time

@Alue14 6 месяцев назад

Gotta say, the bar 'I cut my teeth in the trenches of the Somme, you LARP'ed your Santa Claus Ass through Vietnam!' is still the most epic bar in this entire series, according to me...

@MK-pt3iy 4 года назад

"One does not simply battle Tolkien."

@isdrakon9802 4 года назад

You are simply flattened like being run over by a stream roller

@potatoeater9499 4 года назад

Yes

@Maya-qt3bw 4 года назад

He shall be shattered by the comments of the fans

@sovereign4535 4 года назад

He shall be ripped apart by elves,dwarves,hobbits and many more creatures before being trampled by armies and having his remains burnt until not even ashes remain

@wojciechkowalski8061 4 года назад

Ah, yes. A famous words of Lord Eddard Stark.

@Scoot694 5 лет назад

If this was made during GoT season 8... Tolkien: “I’m about to end this man’s whole career.”

@thedrno4901 5 лет назад

And the Machine like lord of the rings ended any better, with its fifteen endings like he said we don’t need a back story on every fucking tree branch

@IC79 5 лет назад

The Dr No nah RotK ended in a more satisfying way. Fuck GoT for that ending. Seriously.

@spikeneo6580 5 лет назад

lotr was a masterpiece, from the very beggining till the last scene.

@thedrno4901 5 лет назад

LordGigaIce fuck LotR for its 20 endings see we can all do that , should have just had the eagles show up and put crowns on heads oh they only came out when the write put himself in a corner and oh know the boss dies guess we a independent thinking beings should all just fall down even though we have them outnumbered 20 to one, more walking in that movie than the 5 years of forest gump running I laugh on

@jamespatterson6138 5 лет назад

@@thedrno4901 it's fantasy bud

@Dutchofclass 11 месяцев назад

'all your bad guys die and you good guys survive' Boromir would like to have a word with you George

@djokealtena2538 9 месяцев назад

And if you've read The Silmarillion and the Hobbit quite a few heroes more

@connorbosley4431 9 месяцев назад

@@djokealtena2538basically everyone in the silmarillion except the valar, elrond, and cirdan.

@djokealtena2538 9 месяцев назад

@@connorbosley4431 ssshhh don't spoil it for em.

@tubetorpedo 3 месяца назад

Even LotR has several good guys who do not survive, add Hobbit and Silmarillion on top of that then plenty of good heroes who gets killed. So that line was not especially accurate. While interactions in general might not be as Machiavellian as Martin's works, Tolkien did not spare his characters either especially earlier times before Sauron's return to power has goodies taking plenty of beatings at various points. Writing style is quite different but being on a good side on Tolkien's stories does not mean you survive.

@utubefuku7132 Год назад

"You're a pirate Martin, you even stole my R.R." Truer words have never been said.

@thomasbarbosa625 3 года назад

“All your bad guys die and your good guys survive” Boromir, Theoden, Thorin, Fíli and Kíli: crying in the corner

@tulipalll 3 года назад

The silmarillion kills off EVERYone

@basariyaaciz 3 года назад

Fingolfin...

@Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer 3 года назад

Nevermind all of numenor and half of middle earth

@loskar9085 3 года назад

@@Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer Pretty much AHAHAHAHA.

@juanjosefreijedo774 3 года назад

Dont even mention the characters that died in other books where they are not MCs. Balin in Moria.

@kenyam1843 7 лет назад

TOLKIEN DESTROYED IT!

@michaeliliev6282 7 лет назад

yass

@star2playsstarcraft219 7 лет назад

Hinata yaaaaaaas!

@gooseymcfloozey944 7 лет назад

especially with the line about how he almost died in wwi and martin didnt do crap in vietnam

@cholten99 7 лет назад

It wasn't until I rewatched it (again) that I realised how much Tolkien crushed it!

@SovereignStatesman 7 лет назад

It wasn't until I WATCHED GAME OF THRONES that I realized how much Tolkien crushed it! Seriously, that's like an R-rated medieval soap-opera, and somehow we're supposed to care about LITERAL kings fighting for power on another planet, while LotR is just modern symbolism in a pre-Ancient genre. ATTENTION NOOBS: THANK YOU FOR NOT SPOUTING OFF

@matthicksxx 11 месяцев назад

So many great costumes/characters in this one. It’s so admirable that they put so much effort into the background characters who only appear for a few seconds. Tremendous job from the costume and makeup departments

@michaelamaya9032 11 месяцев назад

"We all know the world of fun of chance and anarchy. So yes it's true to life, bit news flash, IT'S CALLED FANTASY." A quote that Hollywood really needs to hear more of nowadays.

@jeper3460 3 года назад

I just realized that Tolkien takes off the ring in the beginning, which is why he suddenly appears.

@DioStandsStill 3 года назад

I never realized it my brain must be playing with me!!!

@MrPrajitura 3 года назад

Shit, dude, MIND BLOWN

@eazy8579 3 года назад

Of course. He's the only being capable of handling its dark power

@stephiregaming7927 3 года назад

Omg how did i not notice that?

@Lugo428 3 года назад

You have keen eyes, master Jeper.

@lawrencemichael5571 3 года назад

"I'm number 1 and 2, you're under fifty shades of Grey" * *MARTIN BEING DESTROYED* *

@floatingblaze8405 3 года назад

Extramely underrated bar, this was absolute fire!

@ThemeParkAvenue 3 года назад

That was my favorite line, especially since Martin was holding a giant copy of Fellowship of the Ring.

@sougotokiwa8439 3 года назад

And Daenerys gets destroyed every night... 🤣

@SCP_Wandsman13_13 3 года назад

I thought killing a radroach in Fallout 4 was easy. This is even easier and more entertaining.

@irrelevant_noob 3 года назад

Lawrence Michael -DESTORYED- Thanks for editing that. :-)

@ValeBridges Год назад

The "too Towering" and "return of the King" lines are brilliant, but the first time I listened I missed the one which was between two lines, "you can't reach this *fellow, shit* I'm too Towering" as in Fellowship

@randompeople9021 Год назад

Tolkien made his own universe in his writing, giving stories and life to everything he could. His writing is believable. The movies based on his books are great. Martin, in comparison, wrote a good book series, and had an ok series that was made off it, and granted, there is a new one now, but can it beat the movies or books of Tolkien? Now, both authors are great, but Martin cant really compete with Tolkien. Tolkien went out of his way, writing an entire language for one of the races in his books. Martin just wanted to keep people interested in his books by creating a congestion of suspension and tension.

@FirefulXD Год назад

well judging by rop vs hotd, clearly martin took that one

@IXtremchiller Год назад

one language for one race? spoiler warning: the languages were the point to Tolkien, all the stories, rich history and nations were just set dressing to be able to invent more languages

@rullvard8245 Год назад

The World of Ice and Fire is, in my opinion, more interesting. Still though, Tolkien's world is also great. Both great, but both write differently, with one trying bigger and more "realistic" world which is grey, compared to the "smaller" one which has more fantastical elements and is more black and white. And of course, they have the Lord of the Rings movies, which didn't really suck.

@NotAGoodUsername360 Год назад

They had completely different goals and aspirations when it came to fantasy. Tolkien took a more God-like perspective, more interested in building an idyllic world with pure, noble battles between good and evil, striving towards a noble purpose. George meanwhile takes more of a historian's perspective, where Machiavellianism reigns supreme and tragedy ensues- not because evil is wrong, necessarily, but because it is tactically stupid.

@bradenmerriman5206 Год назад

I would say the series had a great first half, and a second half that destroyed it.

@joshscorcher 8 лет назад

Man, Tolkien destroyed this one.

@RumoSiAnnoia 8 лет назад

definitely

@jonadahlberg8231 8 лет назад

Tolkien is the one to rule them all

@mariechavez8967 8 лет назад

Hailz yea

@xelic1996 8 лет назад

+joshscorcher To be honest I think they both lost this. Neither of them were clever at all. It's like they were trying TOO hard to find references for this one. Neither of them were better than the other to where I could say one won, unlike other ones like poe vs king, zulu vs ceasar ect.

@jeck988 8 лет назад

Totally

@comettamer 3 года назад

Love how Martin was amazing, but Tolkien STILL slaughtered him. This is without doubt, one of the best ERBs of all time.

@jkdubya85 3 года назад

Every couple of months this one seems to appear on my feed, and every time it does I watch it.

@thekodex1186 3 года назад

Agreed

@ThemeParkAvenue 3 года назад

I've never read any of their books or seen any of their media, but I still agree that this is one of the best.

@FantasticExplorers 3 года назад

...or one could say: One for the ages!

@Ered15. 3 года назад

It honestly was.

@eddysegafan6655 Год назад

Watching this again i missed how funny the "sends a raven to say hi to your toes" was lol

@utubefuku7132 Год назад

It's so absolutely untrue that all of Tolkien's good guys "always survive". In the movies themselves we have Boromir, Theoden and Denethor that died. In The Hobbit, half of the dwarves (main characters) die, including Thorin Oakenshield, basically THE MOST important character of the story along with Bilbo. And in the Silmarillion, not only do TONS of main characters die all the time - like Feanor, Fingolfin and countless others - but there's also fratricide wars and countless betrayals, wars between elves and dwarves and even elves with each other. The difference is just that the shitshow that is ASoIF kills characters for mere shock value, which is why this thing will die out while LotR will be eternal

@dabestestgoblin8495 Год назад

There is even incest in the Silmarillion lmao

@icecell Год назад

The Silm was brutal, man. And he even had deaths in the book meant for _children_ . People who keep saying Tolkien's just generic goody fantasy never read his work.

@utubefuku7132 Год назад

@@PotterMarauder If you dont think that Denethor was good it's probably because you havent read the book. He was in fact an awesome leader for Gondor, and yes he was flawed, which actually makes him a better character, not worse. His wife died during child labor when Faramir was born, which is why he is so cold with Faramir, but in the end he realized how much he loved his son. He also endured a battle of will with Sauron himself, by using constantly the Palantir to know about Sauron's plans, so he was actually a badass, and with that he held Mordor at bay for several decades. This however would end up costing him his mental endurance, after decades of battling will with Sauron over the Palantir, Denethor become more and more desperate, until finally during the battle for Minas Tirith he lost all hope and came to believe that the world of men was doomed. Denethor was actually a good man and a good ruler, a flawed man but still a good person nonetheless, and his story is a tragedy, much more than just simply a moustache swirling villain getting his well deserved fate like how it was portrayed in the movies. Heck, the story of his entire family is a sad tragedy - he loses his wife, and Boromir and Faramir lose their mother, and in the end, Faramir also loses his brother and his father. Good thing that at least Faramir found Eomer and some peace in his life at the end, a well deserving end for someone that endured so much suffering. Alas, poor Denethor. He was only human.

@acr7780 9 месяцев назад

How does Asoiaf kill for shock value? The deaths are foreshadowed. The characters make multiple poor decisions leading upto and causing their deaths and the deaths are built off of to further serve the plot in an interesting way. Think Ned, Robb and Jon Snow. Also calling asoiaf a shitshow? One of the most famous modern fantasies? I know myself and lots of others prefer asoiaf to LOTR. The characters are more interesting, compelling, flawed, human and relatable. The characters are really the heart of the story after all, and I can't think of any in lotr that come close to the likes of Jaime, Tyrion, Theon etc. Not to mention I also much prefer the story and pacing of asoiaf. It's complex and epic, involving so many fantastic characters across many different locations. Lotr is pretty clear cut and simple in comparison. It's also the simple good vs evil, with the characters being good or evil. I realise that was the intended purpose but its not hard to imagine others prefer asoiaf for that reason. That's what it comes down to in the end: personal preference. And to act like one is objectively better than the other is stupid. They are both very different stories intended to accomplish different things. Asoiaf is almost a twisted version of lotr. But honestly asoiaf was a page turner for me whilst lotr was dull and boring. I kept getting put off whilst reading them. To each their own

@wooter558 5 месяцев назад

@@acr7780bro keep preaching all these lord of the rings lovers here can’t take this lol

@stevenbyford5615 2 года назад

"In book sales, you've got nothing to say I'm number one and two You're under Fifty Shades of Grey" There are no words to describe how savage that was.

@Maninawig 2 года назад

Especially right after George said "you need more sex in your books"

@Duckledore 2 года назад

"That wound will never fully heal. He will carry it the rest of his life."

@iceman4208 2 года назад

Extremely

@Cl0ckcl0ck 2 года назад

'You myopic manatee' comes pretty close.

@grentahhh1781 2 года назад

Emotional Damage

@smiff9577 3 года назад

“You’re a pirate. You even stole my R.R.” So much in such a little line.

@JuanHernandez-qj7uq 3 года назад

"All your bad guys die and your good guys survive" Thorin, Fili, Kili, and Boromir would like to have a word with you.

@genie153 3 года назад

Juan Hernandez you just took someone comment ironic

@smiff9577 3 года назад

@@JuanHernandez-qj7uq You’re the pirate!

@filon738 3 года назад

Nice reference

@Lord_Numpty 3 года назад

@@JuanHernandez-qj7uq What of Theoden, as well as Hurin and his family?

@PalleRasmussen 10 месяцев назад

Back to say, there are university professors, lecturers, and all sorts of other people making a living studying Tolkien's work to this day and many years into the future. How many will do that with Martin?

@yeetusdeletus2681 10 месяцев назад

His work is still getting published today unlike old man Martin who doesn’t know how to publish a book in a reasonable time frame

@retsenretp5078 4 года назад

"Good guys survive" Boromir crying in the corner.

@caitlinconsolver7827 4 года назад

RETSENRET :P lets not forget Theoden, Kili, Fili and Thorin!

@mordraug 4 года назад

And those like 50 characters in Silmarillion :D

@viperswhip 4 года назад

@@mordraug 50, I am going to count the thousands, tens of thousands of Elves who just fought the good fight but died in the process.

@filmandfirearms 4 года назад

Boromir was pretty grey, really. He got his redemption at the end, though, but he did some bad shit

@viperswhip 4 года назад

@@filmandfirearms He was a champion before the Ring but desperate, so desperate to save his land that for just a few minutes he was overcome. Grey? I guess, that's fine Davos :)

@thedukeofchutney468 2 года назад

The fact that Tolkien was able to casually reference being a friend to CS Lewis and an inspiration to Led Zeppelin in one paragraph automatically gives him the win in my book.

@Losrandir 2 года назад

Yes, even CS Lewis owns this hack so he just hastily mentions it

@Fukei_Mono 2 года назад

Wait, CS Lewis isn't someone from the 17th century or smth?! My life was a lie.

@carolrondou6161 2 года назад

@@Fukei_Mono Turkish Delite is a lie.

@canwegetashoutouttoworking2002 2 года назад

@@Fukei_Mono If memory serves right, I remember him mentioning WW2 in the second chronicle.

@roaringthunder115 2 года назад

True

@banditkeef3864 Год назад

That is very good makeup and Costume, they made loyd look just like Martin.

@TheOrian34 6 месяцев назад

The end with Tolkien referencing each book in order was way too strong. I wonder what George would say if he saw that.

@rhysoverbeck5251 3 года назад

“All your bad guys die and you good guys survive” Everyone who read the silmarillion: *allow us to introduce ourselves*

@Riri-oj1zs 3 года назад

Yeah. Lol. Almost everyone in that book died. 🤣

@lucypanteli6895 3 года назад

@@Riri-oj1zs Turin and co., Beren and Dior with his twins, Basically almost the entire line of Finwe, a whole freaking continent:. AM I A JOKE TO YOU 😂

@Riri-oj1zs 3 года назад

@@lucypanteli6895 🤣 Tolkien was killing the most important characters in his book! How many did GRRM kill? Tolkien killed the entire race of Numenorians! Except for what, a family (Elendil, etc.)? Lol.

@gonzalovq2488 3 года назад

GRRM is an amateur. Im still criying the death of Fingolfin and Finrod

@Alisibeth_Talia212 3 года назад

YUP

@MDMetal 4 года назад

"All your good guys survive." Boromir: "Am I a joke to you?"

@goncalomonteiro8395 4 года назад

two words: Sean Bean

@BuckingBadger 4 года назад

Even George stole Sean Bean from J.R.R

@hitandruncommentor 4 года назад

umm, yes Boromir, the memes have made you immortal.

@ranger3576 4 года назад

Don’t forget Gandalf

@Sauric121 4 года назад

@Cyborg1337 The whole point of Boromir is that he's not just a good guy, he's the best guy. Well....second best guy. Because the point of Aragorn is that he's the best guy. The movies left a lot out, but in the books Aragorn and Legolas sing a song about how awesome Boromir was right after he died. :p

@codygillard Год назад

It's weird to see G.R.R. Martin battle J.R.R. Tolkien, especially because George looked up to Tolkien, and even considered him superior

@redford1412 11 месяцев назад

Every writers should have the spirit to challenge.

@Sesuaki19 10 месяцев назад

I mean he wrote the biggest and best selling book trilogy and built a whole world around it just to excuse using lagueges he created, of course any writer would look up to him

@thenamesianna 6 месяцев назад

Maybe they would've done it just for fun lol

@zavvax 4 месяца назад

You guys art still the Greatest. several years laters, I stilll go back to your vidfeos.

@kingkj35 8 лет назад

Tolkien wins because he's fucking Tolkien.

@zackosborn1731 8 лет назад

He got Led Zeppelin to back him up for the finish, no contest.

@chadthundercock4982 8 лет назад

I don't know what your Tolkien about.

@chadthundercock4982 7 лет назад

I meant to say "You're".

@kingkj35 7 лет назад

Dammit I love puns. You Voxle, are a funny human

@chadthundercock4982 7 лет назад

Libertarian Progressive Do I win an Internet Cookie?

@jackfroste 4 года назад

Tolkien's Lord of the Rings at one point, was the number 2 most read book in the English language, 2nd only to the Bible.

@RightTurnClyde 4 года назад

And McDonald's is the most popular restaurant on earth. That hardly means it's the best.

@jackfroste 4 года назад

@@RightTurnClyde That's a good point. So we all have begun to realize that McDonalds food is bad for you and their reputation will continue to sink until the corporation goes broke some day. In the same way, you seem to be implying that Tolkien is only relevant and popular now, but one day, the world will wise up and realize his writing was trash while Martin's work will gain popularity? I guess it is possible, though not likely in my opinion.

@angrywada8147 4 года назад

@@jackfroste no dude i think he was taking a hit on the bible

@jackfroste 4 года назад

@@angrywada8147 Ah, okay. I get it now. thanks.

@angrywada8147 4 года назад

@@jackfroste I'm trying to be unbiased but as a Christian it really did anger me but *deep breath* tHATS OK

@lydiajane9102 4 месяца назад

“CS, Lewis and I were just discussing, how you and Jon Snow, both know nothing” - A masterpiece line

@TitusCastiglione1503 5 месяцев назад

Watching George R.R. Martin get trounced by Tolkien will never cease to put a smile on my face.

@parkb5320 4 года назад

“I’m more rock and roll than you’ve ever been, don’t believe me, ask Led Zepplin.” To this day, George hasn’t recovered from that burn.

@filgal6898 4 года назад

Ask Led Zeppelin. And the Rock goes on and on and on and on and on

@adriancolanmontes105 4 года назад

Ask Ramin Djawadi

@stephensylvarwolf7940 4 года назад

Rush did a few LoTR songs as well lol

@parkb5320 4 года назад

Gaius Wyrden I thought it was because in the battle George claims that he is rock and roll and Tolkien is a nerd, and Tolkien destroyed George’s whole verse with the Led Zepplin line because you can’t get more rock and roll than Zepplin.

@mikaele 4 года назад

And so was Sandor Clegane

@corblimey8147 4 года назад

I feel dumb. I just realized that when he said "You're a pirate. You even stole my R.R." He holds up his fingers like a pirate hook but also the letter R in sign language. A really nice touch

@joefraney9827 3 года назад

you never know it could be a reference to what he studied at Oxford University(Linguistics)

@colechandwel9550 3 года назад

And don't forget pirates say "ARRR"... it works on many levels.

@Pipecleaner_enthusiasts_2004 3 года назад

Lol

@akaneh1989 3 года назад

@@colechandwel9550 I believe that could be why it became the letter's symbol in sign language

@tadaotakumi9852 3 года назад

Well, unless you've learnt about sign language, you wouldn't caught up to that. And even then, he did say "you're a pirate", so your mind would totally think of that sign as a hook right away.

@MasterAyBee Год назад

Martin complaining about too much backstory is pretty rich. The dude slipped from fantasy storytelling into fictional history lessons by book four.

@fart__joke 4 месяца назад

Epic rap battles of history always makes me happy when I'm feeling like shit. If this channel wasn't here I don't know what I would watch if I needed some joy

@niktho9632 5 лет назад

Arya: kills the Night King Gimli: That still only counts as one!

@jamesboardman6008 4 года назад

Easily the most underrated comment on RU-vid.

@generictimestamperstupendi9021 4 года назад

@RaeKtvdotcom 4 года назад

aSKKSKS DECEASED

@TheRumpelstinskin 4 года назад

ROFLMAO

@thejadondaviscommentaries1613 4 года назад

Arya's Death Count: 90,000< Legolas' Death Count: More than Gimli Gimli's Death Count: Less than Legolas

@LiamMHennessey 8 лет назад

Tolkien schooled the shit out of his ass

@nothingtoseehere705 8 лет назад

Appropriate given that he was a professor.

@soundwave7154 8 лет назад

Class dismissed

@turnerjensen2620 8 лет назад

OOOOOOOOOOOOH

@BNGClash 8 лет назад

In raps and in real life

@Bebber94 8 лет назад

Agreed.

@NerosCinema Год назад

"Every time I battle it's return of the king".... how do you possibly top that as a closer

@the_devils_jester 9 месяцев назад

"I'm number 1 and 2, you're under 50 shades of grey" has to be one of the best insults i've ever heard.

@zxylo786 8 месяцев назад

GoT isn't under 50 Shades of Gray

@the_devils_jester 8 месяцев назад

@@zxylo786 Have ypu ever heard about books, good sir? They are like shows but you only get the script and have to play it in your head. J. R. R. Tolkien and George R. R. Martin have published those and that's what the Sentence was about.

@zxylo786 8 месяцев назад

@the_devils_jester GoT sold more books that 50 shades. GOt has sold 90 million. Not even close

@the_devils_jester 8 месяцев назад

@@zxylo786 Last time i looked it up it was the other way round

@the_devils_jester 8 месяцев назад

@@zxylo786 i looked it up Asoiaf sold 90 million copies and 50 shades 100 million.

@Shiverwar 3 года назад

The best part of this battle is Martin wasn't even bad. He came in hot against Tolkien. It's just a shame for him that Tolkien is nigh untouchable. No question, Tolkien dominated him.

@davel7791 3 года назад

I'll give Tolkien the victory, but I think GRRM did great. His "even the names of your characters suck" followed by "tea baggins my nuts" cracks me up every time.

@Shiverwar 3 года назад

@@davel7791 Yeah, like, Martin came in real hot in the battle, and he had some wonderful lines, but Tolkien just outclassed him in every way regardless.

@reduande 3 года назад

Have to borrow a quote... Martin did great job, but there is no shame to lose against the best.

@jacksonsteele2807 3 года назад

He was just.... too towering

@megahobbit5972 3 года назад

I was pleasantly surprised when this first came out and appretiated more and more over time with how many more of the lines i realized i well researched Tolkiens lines are flat out Brutal compared to Martin Martin put up a fight but Tolkien ended an age with his raps Small add on: i love that tolkien was consistend and got even better while Martin started strong but got worse (kinda how the show and books went xD)

@YEOsCanal 4 года назад

Martin spit a song of Ice and Fire...but Tolkien went There and Back Again.

@BlackDiamond2718 4 года назад

He brought the light and darkness and bound him to death and darkness with the one ring.

@coltonmartin2690 4 года назад

I see what you did there...👏👏👏👏👏👏

@kahlesskronos2721 4 года назад

yes he did he went through 2 world wars he literally went there and back again

@abelnazreen5719 4 года назад

Yow this is golden....lol

@biggestwanderer8827 4 года назад

Sadly for me, I saw this more than 3 years ago

@RevAnakin 10 месяцев назад

Absolutely love it. The only thing that would have made it perfect is not have Tolkien curse. His works were pure from that and it would have just made it a tad more of a juxtaposition to Martin.

@emanuelebelle3943 3 месяца назад

I don’t think you ever did something quite as good again, this is by far my favourite

@carl2d2 2 года назад

“C.S. Lewis and I were just discussing how you and Jon Snow both know nothing” absolutely BRUTAL

@dakotastein9499 2 года назад

Wasn't CS the guy who made Narnia?

@martavdz4972 2 года назад

@@dakotastein9499 Yep. He was brilliant in discussions and basically owned everyone, that´s why the rap battle mentions discussions. If he got his own rap battle, he´d win it with arguments from logic and philosophy. He was less patient but more versatile than Tolkien. He wrote a sci-fi trilogy, fantasy books for adults, heaps of great essays and a book on Renaissance literature. It was one of the few scholarly books I had to read at university that were both brilliant and highly enjoyable :-) Lewis also "cut his teeth in the trenches of the Somme". They were friends with Tolkien for most of their lives. They created the genre of fantasy together, based on the work of George McDonald (and mythology, of course), but only Tolkien usually gets credit for it, and not Lewis or McDonald. Tolkien was by far the best, but not the only one. LOTR wouldn´t exist without McDonald and wouldn´t be the same without Lewis.

@user-kb5oo2yu8q 2 года назад

@@martavdz4972 not mentioning that all those are works of one of the greatest Christian apologists of modern era.

@oliverdelica2289 2 года назад

I also love the transition to that scene 😂

@rubix4195 2 года назад

"A man with an obsession is a man with very little sales resistance" - A quote from a YT comment to suggest C.S Lewis was nuts. Yeah, some people on YT comments and Jon Snow both know nothing!

@hilarywhite2953 4 года назад

"All your good guys survive" - guy who's never read the Silmarillion.

@AkiNoTsuki 4 года назад

my thoughts exactly

@grey2836 4 года назад

Or the hobbit for that matter

@benmohatun 4 года назад

Omg totally

@jamesmartin9401 4 года назад

Alas, poor Boromir....

@stefansiarasiarzewski3012 4 года назад

@@jamesmartin9401 Thats it...Poor Boromir.

@darkforces106ify Месяц назад

Honestly one of the best ERB

@zavvax 3 месяца назад

Both of you are great. Stay awesome

@JonathonWilder 8 лет назад

J. R. R. Tolkien, without a doubt.

@rhaenatargaryen8061 8 лет назад

Heavily biased, but i actually felt like George won the battle. Tolkien had sick burns but he failed to actually damage ASOIAF at all, while George was totally right about the predictability of LOTR and the name bit was just golden.

@JonathonWilder 8 лет назад

+Daniel Griff Right, too bad he didn't create his own languages and a detailed history/mythology for his series. No matter good you feel he is these two points will make him less impressive.

@benjaminkraft5309 8 лет назад

Also too bad Martin has no idea where the hell he was going with the story. Yeah, he literally derailed himself into his current stuck-in-the-mud state.