Jack Dempsey, the original Mike Tyson. Join Rainy Day Boxing for an in depth career tribute to the man who inspired Iron Mike, the Manassa Mauler, Jack Dempsey.
Manassa Mauler! Was sick whilst making this one, took a while to finish. Leave a like if you'd like me to make more videos on the old school greats like this one.
I read that his 1918 1 rd ko fight vs fred fulton victory wh/ set up his fight for willard was actually filmed. Do you know what ever happened to that footage???.... also did you notice in the latest rocky film this year, in the restaurant scene, that stallone put dempsey photos on the wall. It was a nice touch and tip of the hat to the legend who made boxing the mass gated event it became.
sha broussard lmao oh my god, what was it just failed a test, mom giving you shit, just got rejected again? I’m just trying to figure out what kind of scenarios draw people to want to instigate and slander people in comment sections for literally not one fucking reason.
@@decanusseverus8773 bro the guy asked "how do you know" like how tf else? Did he suck his dick???? Not saying he should of done that but come on bro ur all fuckin dumasses
@@charliealder3522 If you look at the Jack Dempsey vs. Gene Tunney fight it was rigged for Tunney to win.When Jack knocks him down the referee doesnt start the count until at least 5 seconds after Tunney was down! That was a rip off if i ever saw!
I dont think it's the not eating portion of it, it was more so the not knowing WHEN you'll eat next, and that uncertainty, is what he is really stressing ...
“When I was a young fellow I was knocked down plenty. I wanted to stay down, but I couldn’t. I had to collect the two dollars for winning or go hungry. I had to get up. I was one of those hungry fighters. You could have hit me on the chin with a sledgehammer for five dollars. When you haven’t eaten for two days you’ll understand.” - Jack Dempsey,
Having been poor, at least working poor, even briefly homeless at times in my life, he's dead right. You have to pick yourself up and fight. No one else is going to do it.
@@SOLIDSNAKE.You would be in deep shit mate. I remember living off of sardines everyday at 4:30 pm that was when I break fast while doing physical labor. You gotta survive, it's hard, but you gotta survive.
@@meatwad1 black guys don't give credit were it due because of things like this tell the truth about Jack Dempsey he refuse to fight outside his race that why rocky m Tommy m get more respect y'all see color more then we do if you can fight you can fight that why i say Jack was a good champ mike thinks he was a great champ but he did not prove his greatest by fighting anybody
Didn't know that one....Proud to say my 70+ year old grandfather ( RIP ) had a similar story, knocked 1 punk out and the other ran...he told the story laughing
When you haven't eaten for 2 days you'll understand.... DAMN. That hit hard. Most people have never really felt hunger, a empty stomach is not the same.
Actually, when you haven't eaten for 2 days, you have no energy. I've been in this situation numerous times. One time I didn't eat for like 3 and a half days. No energy to get up nor even move.
@@magicsugarbump4972 I challenge you to starve yourself for 2-3 days and see for yourself that you have no energy. In fact, having a sudden boost in adrenaline will only make you more tired. Like I said, I speak from personal experience.
@@magicsugarbump4972 If you watch the end of the movie "Jungle" (2017) where they find and rescue the lost guy, they nailed it pretty well when it comes to starvation. So many people think that you'll suddenly have a boost in energy like you're a dragon ball z character. in the real world, it just doesn't work that way.
"There's no one that can match me. My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah." -mike Tyson
After reading his autobiography entitled - Dempsey By The Man Himself - he became my idol. (not just my sports idol). His book was, to this day, the best book that I have ever read (Sadly it has long been out of publication). This man is Americana, a Horatio Alger story on steroids. He worked as a miner, a cowboy. He traveled the country by riding the rails underneath moving trains. He ate and lived in hobo jungles along the way (he knew where they all were located). His hustle in the midst of all of this was that when he arrived in a new town in the Old West he would walk into a saloon and ask the bartender or owner who the local bully was that frequented the bar and if he'd be there that night. The gaff was to allow Dempsey to fight the guy for the entertainment of the patrons and to be allowed to then "pass the hat" after the fight with the winner getting all of the proceeds. There were some very tough hombres in those Western saloons back in those days and when they looked at the skinny, squeaky voiced Dempsey they licked their chops at the prospect of making a good days pay by simply beating the hell out of him. Ha Ha ! The joke was on them as Dempsey routinely destroyed them. He thrived on beating big, slow guys like the ones in those bars and later Jess Willard for the heavyweight championship. In 1970 I was in NYC and I wandered into his restaurant on Broadway and as I was having lunch with my date in walked the great Jack Dempsey chomping on a cigar and walking with his cane. He noticed me gawking at him in awe and he approached my table and stuck out his hand and said "Hi Sonny". Fifty two years later nothing in my life has been a bigger thrill. Don't ask me what he said because the moment was too big for me. I chocked I, regrettably, couldn't get any words out of my mouth but I did get to meet my idol.
Good story and memories that never die ..I once met Muhammad Ali by chance and accident in Edinburgh , Scotland at his autobiograhy book signing after he was brought over by train journey from Glasgow after he had done likewise signing his books for all his many fans ..Ali arrived in Edinburgh by train then very short taxi cab and with police motor cycles either side Ali along with his two minder guys walks into Waterstones store in Princes street branch . stepped out pats Ali on his left shoulder as he walks with minders to lift as Ali with minder guys get into lift doors i then see close over ..I looked up stairway with all people lined up i just shouts up loudly ( Excuse me folks , please let the Gentleman past please and as all took a step aside i then quickly ran up all stairs to top and then straight into main room , i cross over floor to other side and stood just touch up from main lift and then secs later door of lift opens and out come Ali with both minder guys and Ali hands shaking i then took 2 pics of Ali and quickly i stepped out patted both back of his hands as he slowly walks to main table to sing all autographs of people buy his book .. Ali with ( Parkinsons badly at time was taking its toll sadly ) though Ali never said anything , had a wee smile on his face being led to table ..I recall taking old ladys pic beside Ali and this after told make it quick as not time with so many people to see ..Were large que all way down Princes street i recall just before i stood at main doorway awaiting his arrival ..Anyhow Great names in the boxing World all them guys and just is sad at times some greats go a few fights too many at a time should have retired Ali was one of them also as well as Dempsey and Jack Johnson Rocky Marciano , Joe Louis and later in time Ali , Frazier , Foreman , Holmes Them were all greats of the ring but for me them earlier fighters were as tough as nails .
TRUMP SUPPORTER I meet a former Australasian Heavy Weight Champ and they wanted him to fight as an amateur, his reply “ I’m not getting punched in the face without getting paid “
@James No country or leader delt with the pandemic properly. No matter what countries have done (shut down, not shut down etc;) it turned out wrong. The country that screwed up was the one who's diet consists of bat wings and monkey brains and other disgusting foods. This is not the first nor will it be the last time that the Chinese have poisoned the human population by eating exotic filth. The world needs to have a sit down with countries that persist in consuming dangerously lethal foods that endanger mankind. Trump eats burgers not bats.
There is a ufc girl that made a similar comment a couple of years ago it went something alone these lines “ we can fight for many reason but when you fight to get the last piece of the bone is different”
The Wedge I think they did get paid just nowhere near as much as the victor, I feel like for the old school men it would’ve been more about walking away with some form of pride, walking out the ring a loser wasn’t that big an issue it was if you had to walk out knowing you were completely smoked/outclassed
That might bite your ear if you get close enough. You can't take the fight out of a fighter, you can learn control and humility. Tyson is still in there. Just a more polished version. I respect his newer version of " man" because it's tough to do. I was terrified for any man who entered the ring back then. God damnit, he punched with so much power and HATE. I was just a little kid but knew he was the hardest hitter alive.
He was. And it hurts my heart. I'm just so glad that Mike was eventually able to start to deal with his deep hurt in a healthy manner eventually. I wish Sonny had eventually gotten the acceptance he wanted, and been able to leave his rough past behind him totally.
Mike Tyson is one of the greats and when he had the look the hunger In his eyes he was unstoppable. And Jack Dempsey what else can I say he is a legend.
Larry Holmes an he was way passed his prime..Holmes was Tyson’s best name on his record,this kid beat up bums an he knocked them out like he was supposed to ..when it was time to show up the kid couldn’t do it ...
anonymous anonymous So that makes him not a great fighter? We’re talking about boxing here and you’re going off on a tangent about things that are completely unrelated.
anonymous Are you sure we’re talking about the same Mike Tyson here? The one I know of was the youngest heavyweight champion of all time and definitely isn’t dead😂
"A traveling hobo that made his money brawling men in saloons for money." bruh this level of testosterone is uncanny. That's the most masculine thing I've ever heard.
LOL........Absolutely BS. Just because Tyson made a throw-away comment about Dempsey means absolutely nothing. That title should read ' Dempsey the man who fled at the sight of a black opponent'
Jack would chew on pine tar and wood chips to strengthen his jaw and rub brine on his face to make it less prone to cuts. My grandpa was a big Jack Dempsey fan.
Not eaten for 4 days and still went on to fight...what more can you say about that... He is one of the most,greatest boxer to ever walked on this earth.. May he rest in peace...
I had the great pleasure of meeting Jack Dempsey at Yankee Stadium in Sept. 1976. It was the venue for the Muhammed Ali, Ken Norton fight. I was a New York City police officer assigned to the stadium for the day to handle the large crowds due to the fight and a demonstration that was taking place simultaneously. My partner and I spotted Jack after the fight was over, he was walking through a parking lot with two body guards, One on either side of him. We simply walked up to him, had a short conversation and shook hands which felt like rocks. My recollection of him was that even though he was 81 years old he looked large and sturdy. He was very kind and seemed happy we approached him. After so many years, I remember that encounter with The Manassa Mauler vividly as if it just happened yesterday.
Hardly anyone pays attention..or at least didn't back when he was in his prime, Mr. Tyson was very articulate despite his scholastic education...he was VERY respectful to the champions of yesteryear and overall a good man...in spite of all he had to face based solely on his reputation the media engineered against him
Tyson was naturally very intelligent from birth. The education system of the ghetto hell he was born into failed him just as it has failed so many other people.
MrNorthernSol A conviction doesn’t mean you did it. A jury isn’t even filled with people who know the law. It’s based on feelings. A bunch of random people who two lawyers try to emotionally jerk.
@Happ Felagi for him to say that is different, than for outside influences to say it, two completely different perspectives, not to throw away your point, that yes he DID say it..
@@Lonelysportofboxing Ali said that rocky hits the hardest hes ever felt and that out of everyone rocky would give Ali the most trouble and said that he'd take foreman and Frazier in the same night.
What I love about Tyson is that he's a student of the history. I was the same as a kid, I remember going to the library, signing out books and studying all the greats. My favorites back then were Marciano and Dempsey.
Thanks for putting this up. When my dad was 20-22, he was an exhibition fighter for Mr. Dempsey on the southwest circuit. Okla. Tx. NM. Dempsey gave my dad and opportunity to get out of Tulsa and it changed his life. He was always a champ to me.
David Serrano “The best ever” quotes were always a big issue with my opinions on Mayweather. He was fucking good, but best ever is to arrogant and disrespectful of boxing history and other great fighters.
LoL I knew there'd be somebody bringing up that shit. That somebody is you sadly. Woman had a strange history of doing this shit before Mike came along.@AmishRiot
It’s ironic that Dempsey lost the title as a result of the infamous long count of Tunney. Just like Tyson lost his title after a long count of Douglas.
In the 1980`s I knew an old timer from Chicago and he told me that a lot of the guys who fought Dempsey had problems eating when they got older. Jack damaged them permanently.
Hmmm, if only Mike and Jack had remembered the rules... Tunney dominated Dempsey in both fights. Jack won maybe a round. Tyson got schooled as well, although Buster wasn’t even half the fighter Gene was.
@@kennethbruner3943 you sound like a little bitch. Tyson is a two time world champion.. nobody has to whine about what actually happened. Douglas was knocked out
@@Skywalker52Blocks Do you even know how many champions dodged to fight black fighters in the 20's because they were sure that they are going to lose? Do you know sugar ray? We all know that a black man was the best in every era of boxing
@@aliraid9248 tob be real idgaf, you sound like a damn fool. Lesnar owned mma and roman wrestling just like another white man angle. and chuck lidell and forrest griffin or connor McGregor as much as I dislike the little guy hes another white guy that bodys most people in his weight. you sound like a stan and you like metallica, your just a fn mark. and the only reason I say anything in the 1st place is because yall bash white people allday an want respect in return foh don't start the race bs wont be nothing and gfy
The similarities are alot they had similar styles The fought giants and prevailed The had high pitched voices They were champs at a young age The beast thing they were ferocious and entertainment in the ring.
@@RainyDayBoxing I've actually watched it likely many times - I play background music / documentaries while gaming (for example). Praising it all the same and for the reasons mentioned; fantastic. Cheers.
Dempsey used to write my grandfather and my uncle still has the letters. They were around the same age and after an amateur career followed by football, my granddad was a big-time referee. Dempsey referred to my grandfather as 'Doc' because he was an optometrist, as well.
Jack Dempsey was literally a hungry bum who was starved for days and had five minutes left in him before he colased due to hunger, so in a match he went full out, In a world where boxing was so much about safety, rules weren't even needed, because apponents rarely threw a punch... He was the first legendary drop character.
In 2013, when I turned 60, I boxed in a smoker in the Memorial Hall in Dayton , Ohio on the same stage that Dempsey had an exhibition match in the 20'S. One of the highlights of my life.
It's crazy looking at Jack Dempsey at 00:35 it's like looking at someone from 2017-2018 in black and white, those old school hairstyles definitely came back in
A man had to be out stone cold before the ref waived a fight off in those days, and no neutral corner on the knockdown. Those were hard bastards. Rainy Days in my no1 fav boxing channel keep up the good work!
Dempsey from 1919 to 23 would destroy today's top guys. All he needed was one shot. And it would happen because his body work would open that door for him.
@@jewellui Hey man, a neutral corner is one of the corners of the boxing ring that a fighter gets sent to when he knocks an opponent down in modern day boxing; it's done to allow fighters more time to recover as in the old days, deaths and serious injuries occurred when you could just stand over a man and continue smashing him as he tried to get up like you see in this video. It's usually the corner farthest away from the downed opponent and "neutral" because your cornermen can't be in it to give you assistance! Also I think you could throw the towel in in those days but not sure how often it was used tbh.
His skill sets were tools for survival. What an admirable and inspirational person Jack is. Travelling the west. Making a living using his fists. That’s just unreal.
@@lewiscypher5713 even the most dangerous of the boxers of the boxing history thinks he is most intimidating ....Tyson and Foreman fears him and see the videos of how is destroyed Floyd Patterson
@@KOSOVOBEAST24 You can call them bums but that's just your worthless opinion. Wilder fights the best & he knocks them out. His whole entire career is a highlight film!
A true gentleman indeed. And a great fighter and a brawler. You'd want him by your side in a bar fight....well...it's either him or Mike Tyson for me, if it's a fucking bar fight and I need to start scrappin' with somebody.
nevergymless lee yes all from GOD ! It doesn't matter if you or anyone els don't believe that. Its still the truth and that's all that matters. Go look at every successful boxer and they will tell you they get it from GOD. Floyd, Manny, Julian the hawk Jackson and so forth. Go sit down you devil
@@k.tucker2011 The ole appeal to popularity fallacy. Sigh!! The fact lots of successful boxers attribute their skills to god, in no way proves god🤣🤣 And simply stating you dont care if i or anybody else believes is fine. But you dont then go on to state that it is a fact that a fictional genocidal warlord gave man these skills🤣😒😒. It would be nice if for once you god claimers could provide evidence outside of "arguments from ignorance" and faith and feelings, and simply "i just know" or the buybull tells me so...smh! So sad in 2019 to see grown adults still believing in fictional bronze age tales and whats more is defending this infanticidal monster and his book of war crimes against humanity. P.s the devil is fictional too🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 P.ps dont go sit down, go and grow up😉
I knew a guy 30 years ago who was 80 at the time. He told me that a lot of the guys who fought Dempsey had stomach trouble later in life. Dempsey hit people savagely.
I cannot believe Willard kept getting up and a fight like that not stopped back then. Dempsey would still be a handful for anyone in his weight class now.
Then Lennox Lewis gave the legend Mike Tyson a slow beating. After he made threats to eat his children. Dempsey was greater than Tyson and Lennox Lewis.
Karim Izemrane Dempsey the best of his times... Not of all times... Rocky Marciano would've destroyed him as well as Joe Lewis and Jack Johnson in their prime... And Prime Muhammad Ali, well now we won't even talk about that guy...
This man had 85 Fights in 13 yes THIRTEEN years!. Nowadays they have like 35-40 in 13 years. I know the sport and world has changed but, back then these guys fought 2-3 fights a month.
Yes that would be fantastic finally a break from all the comic book bullshit movies that come out nowadays something that actually has some teeth behind it
Dempsey was more technical than people use to say about him. Look at his bob and weave and defense. In his time only a genius as Tunney could move better than him
@@AJKungFuu my smile when he gave me my ice cream then my dad told me who he was there are no words I was amazed he wasn't loud or boastful and had all of his whitz about him too he counted cars on the way to the beach coming through greenwood Delaware every summer till he passed always made me wonder which number he was on when he passed his family was the most wonderful son and daughter but his wife was regal she had a shine all around her and a smile that matched
DarkSagan Tunney is often credited by boxing historians as the first, true modern day heavyweight champion, the crossover between the brawling, survival of the strongest fighter and the thinking, strategic, boxing as a science type of boxer.
Didn’t realize Dempsey’s fights drew such huge crowds even by today’s standards. Wow. I’ve often wondered who’d win if Jack Dempsey fought Rocky Marciano. What a fight that would be!🥊
dempsey was literally bigger then ruth in the roaring 20's. new school sports journalist in most cases have weak historical knowledge. They just assume by far ruth was the dominant sport figure hero and celebrity of the 20's & have pushed that narrative for some time to people. its pop history. yet the truth was it was dempsey. he made 10 times what ruth made & was the toast of hwood. he was good friends with & partied w/ chaplin & barrymore. he also lived in hwood in its first golden age in the 20's when it exploded as the biggest media city in the world. & ticket sales, ink space & fascination with the sports consumer then was most attracted to dempsey. he essentially created mega gate events, the type of planned & sold events that bands like the stones would make an industry. yet dempsey's fame did that for the first time 50 years earlier. a strong argument could be made he was the biggest sports star as far as moving the needle in his day then anyone in the 20th century. certainly the first half.
BRIAN TAN Yee maybe they brought some telescopes. Lol. Or they just wanted to be a part of the event even if they couldn’t really see the fight too good. Kind of like watching fights in Ancient Rome.
