There where acrually 4 Bb1 's. One was Hans Zimmer, one was alvin from Take six one was from the choir from the aolians of havard university and about the last one im unsure. But I think it was the condacter from the metropol orkest
At 11:17 he's slowly increasing the reference tone pitch from 427hz to 450hz ( you can hear it if you skip 11:50 and then go back to 11:17, that 'bass tone' you mentioned ). Some say is too mathematical ( it is ) but to me it adds another dimension to the song, and it's just fun. The cool thing about Jacob, is he uses so many genres of music as you mentioned. It only gets more interesting the more you dig in. For a true mixture of funk, r&b and african gnawa, I'd recommend 'Everlasting Motion'.
Wow, thanks for that little nugget about the tone pitch change...crazy. So far he hasn't lost me as too mathematical or "out there." Everything ,as I said in the reaction, is just enough push without losing the essence of the song! Cheers!
@@captainmorgan1978 He's put Djesse Vol. 3 on hold until he can tour the release again. He told us in his monthly Patreon chat a few weeks ago. I was supposed to see him in Toronto this Sunday but not now. btw, the concert footage in All Night Long was his Toronto concert from last June and I was in the second balcony singing my ass off. Seeing him live is an entirely different and NEXT LEVEL deal. You have to go when he gets to tour again.
I'm so glad you appreciate this amazing masterpiece. He is actually infinitely beyond Take 6 in harmony. Jacob has to capacity to make them sound bad lol. Check out Take 6 with Jacob on the Tavis Smiley Show, they just cannot handle his work. Also, you must watch the June Lee transcription of Jacob Moon River, it will blow your mind. And mostly, mostly, a thing that will change your life and blow your mind- Jacob's Logic Breakdown for Moon River- it's a masterpiece in and of itself. You must, lol. for realz
@Sondhead1 yeah, Take 6 got too high in pitch with the "wa wa" melody going downwards. That threw off the whole performance :( also the voices couldn't blend well in that arrangement. I don't know why, but it makes me... 🤗
Thanks for the comment. Definitely don't agree that he is too good for Take 6. I already spoke about that video in my other Jacob vid. So, go watch that one! lol I would say, in that particular video JACOB didn't sound good either,lol As I have said a few times, he is NOT a good singer, in my opinion...he isn't bad, but he definitely isn't used to singing with OTHER people, he mostly sings harmony with his recorded self. In that video, specifically, they didn't practice much at all together before the performance and the harmonies are definitely different and more challenging. Also, Take 6 is pretty old and ALL singers who have been doing their careers for 30+ years are going to degrade over time in the things they can pull off...early Take 6 has no match. As you can see in other videos I have linked to them. Now, Jacob's arranging is definitely pushing the boundaries past what Take 6 did/does. I mentioned that in my reactions to him as well. Cheers! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BLXpcehiQUc.html
I've listened to Dream theatre before, they do not even scratch the surface of what Jacob Collier does in his music. They are fantastic, don't get me wrong. But Jacob Collier is in the same stratosphere with Beethoven, Bach, and Mozart. He will be talked about in Music classes hundreds of years from now. We are lucky to be living in the same generation as him.
Kinda comparing apples and oranges but wouldn't disagree with the fact Jacob is unique/genius...I guarantee, instrument wise, he couldn't do the things DT does...and to reverse it when it comes to composition, not really applicable as you have 2 melodic note instruments, plus 1 voice in the composition in a traditional band so composition is completely limited. At best you could compose a triad in weird structures, which Avant guard jazz does at time...they don't have the multi tracking voices/vids with a harmonizer doing most of the work...Jacobs genius is in his composition which could be more compared to a Take 6 or something with an orchestra...not to DT and the like! Cheers!
I have loved groups like Free Design, Modern Folk Quartet, The Swingle Singers, Manhattan Transfer, Take 6, and Pentatonics. I have loved groups like Yes, Dream Theater, Radio Head and the Beatles. But Jacob Collier is on a whole other astral plane. How can one person be to the piano what Petrucci is to the guitar and at the same time put together arrangements like All Night Long and Moon River? Much less pull off Moon River technically, singing all the parts? He is the Mozart of this century. If he flames out and never does another thing from here on out it won't matter to me. My mind is blown already.
Really nice, thoughtful, well spoken reaction. You really did a respectful deep dive on this and it was great watch nice job. For a more light hearted, super fun Jacob consider "the Flintstones". Yah, that "Flintstones". This is one of his earlier videos (I think he was 20) and he put it out and damned if he didn't win a Grammy for it. Just a really, really fun video! And again great job on this one.
Great review man. I can see that you teaching for so many years, along with teaching dance, and any other speaking activities you’ve done, has developed you into a great communicator. You communicate your thoughts very well. Nice work man!
It would be really cool if you checked out Jacob's Flintstones cover, his rendition of here comes the sun (ft Dodie), his fascinating rhythm rendition, or his original song "Hideaway". Sorry if you've seen any of those already. Edit: also "Time Alone With You ft. Daniel Caeser" is killer!
I wouldn't agree with that. Of course there is going to be subjectiveness as to where that line is for each person, but playing 2000bpm's is a separate technical skill than the skill of writing a "pleasing" song. I would agree that the technical skill of playing an instrument is the only "non-subjective" part of music...either someone can play it or not, ohysically. But a song is much more than just physical ability. This is the beauty of art and music. It is comprised of both physical ability as well as emotional/connected ability. It is also why some of the smartest people in the world who know all the "facts of something" are terrible teachers lol Teaching is not about what you know only, but how to apply that "knowing." physical ability with applicable ability." :)
@@captainmorgan1978 I mean when u say Mike Mangini plays robotic or he has no 'feel' is just someone's opinion. None of us have seen a robot 'play' any musical instruments before so what does that term mean anyway. I have observed those who act the showman on stage usually are applauded as having 'feel' regardless of whether their accurately playing it or not whereas someone else who doesn't feel the need to act showy on stage but plays just as well is deemed a robot. PS. not judging anyone and Mike Mangini is just an example among countless other musicians and singers alike. I mentioned him cause you had in a previous video.
@@nikelodeon6852 right, I agreed in my original response that "feel" or groove is subjective and will vary but that doesn't mean that it is not a part of "technique" or doesn't exist. Something can be "too technical" in the context that it may be physically technical but has little or no feeling...where that line is of course, subjective. :)
@@nikelodeon6852 As far as Mangini, I never said or think he has "no feel" but he definitely is MORE physically technical than say, Portnoy, but Portnoy CERTAINLY has more feel. Even Petrucci said that the difference between playing with the 2 was playing with a metronome versus an energy...
Npr's tiny desk concert is one of the most special concerts Jacob has done. It's really nice to find new (jazz) bands/artists and show better known artists in another light in those concerts. Please leave it alone, we need that channel for the big audience to embrace other genres, other than pop and dance music. It's really important these channels exist for us musicians to have the bigger audience have a vision in other music, music out of their comfortzone. To show them a little of the other world that is unknown to them but known to musicians.
@@captainmorgan1978 I think the whole youtube system is retarded, not only NPR. I don't know much about copystrikes but I think there must be ways to not get striked and share your content in a "legal" way. Though I know a lot of youtubers take advantage of the system which is sad...
@@elinemay yea, like I said the system is fine as far as when something has a copyright because it is fair imo... I shouldn't receive benefit or compensation off of someone else's work. But when I am not receiving any of that what is the point of striking people and deleting their channels for not receiving anything or doing something that hurts an artist? Until they cna tell me how artists are hurt by reaction videos I will not retract my thoughts. 🤷♂️
You just have to watch his logic session breakdown to truly understand how musically complex this song really is. It’s crazy like insane. I’ve seen it like 5 times all the way through and I pick something new every time.
In the dive into Jacob Collier, I'd suggest listening to a live performance of just his voice and piano. Check out Fix you where I believe his "composition" isn't really a composition in that it is an improvisation which is another side to help one understand his genius. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xwPnSS702Ow.html
@@williamcarrmusic yea I know about his Harmonizer but you can't equate that him singing 6 parts lol not even close. It would be like saying a guitar player is playing 2 guitars when he turns on his harmonize pedal during a lead 🤔 either way this doesn't take away his genius... 😀
Alright. I’m gonna come out and say it. I’ve been hesitant to recommend it to you. But I’m going to do it. You may not love it. But it’s one of those albums that as a prog metal fan, you kind of HAVE to at least hear. I’ll recommend the first track. “Native Construct” is the band “Mute” is the song.
You should include into your repertoire the things that Pentatonix has contributed to a cappella! They are, in their way, adding another level to their genre!
I would suggest “Hallelujah” (500 MILLION views on RU-vid), “Daft Punk” (they won their first Grammy for this! They recorded the piece in a closet, did the video in the kitchen and it all was done for $400! And they won a Grammy!), Run To You” an original, “Cant Help Falling In Love” (this was done in a slow 4 instead of 6/8 which adds poignancy to the song. The original bass, Avi Kaplan, is a basso profundo, and on the last chord, the group sings an A9; on that chord Avi sings a 3rd ledger-line bass clef A! That chord sounds like an organ due to the overtones. Avi is the bass vocalist on these recommendations. Avi had to leave the group because of extreme stress. The new bass singer is Matt Sallee-very fine, but he has a more lyric quality; Avi’s voice is a dramatic, powerful bass. Also, there are a number of compilations. After you check these out, you will be ready to go down the PTX rabbit hole. Good luck! You’ll be amazed!
@@rmac1042 I have heard a few from them. Thanks for the suggestions. If you could copy and paste (with links if you have them) on the suggestions thread. Cheers
Check out "Jacob Collier: Moon River - Harmonic Analysis": ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UTDHylJZMXU.html Unfortunately, not being a musician myself I can't pretend I understand all of the analysis myself.
CaptainMorgan Two. A long haired male and a double dapple female we rescued five years ago. They’re on my RU-vid channel along with some live Jacob I shot from his Toronto show.
You should listen to his cover of "In the Bleak Midwinter". It has some really thick jazzy chords like this one, and at some point in that one he goes into I think it's G half sharp, but it sounds so natural because he uses his chord magic that he does.
CaptainMorgan it’s at 4:25 on the video, it’s pretty crazy how he modulates the key center in just 4 chords to G half sharp, you can’t really even tell that he’s doing it unless you’re told beforehand, it just sounds like the chords are getting brighter and brighter, and then all of the sudden your piano can’t play with him anymore. He explains how he does his pitch modulations in his logic breakdown of moon river. It’s definitely worth a watch too
@@connormckay4755 Yes I have seen the breakdown of Moon River and All night...Thanks for the time stamp...his breakdowns get way above my knowledge base, but this will be fun to tune in for...thanks again!
OK, so the opening is all his friends singing the same note. Once the intro piece (which isn't on the album cut) is over it is only Jacob. A total of over 5,000 individual tracks he recorded and edited himself. No instruments and no other singers. It is a Grammy winning performance that I can't get enough of. Thanks for featuring it. Now go watch the video he posted of his Logic recording session of this one. It'll make you feel like you have no skills and never will, but that's ok. Jacob is a once in a generation talent and I'm cool with that. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9d4-URyWEJQ.html
CaptainMorgan I used to be a radio announcer back in the 90’s and did audio production on very early digital systems and what blows me away is how fast Jacob works. He has a few live Logic sessions and he’s tracking while teaches and he doesn’t miss a beat while doing both. I’m in education now and we would call him a true digital native. It’s fun to watch his journey. Now that Rush has ended I need a new artist to follow who surprises me at every turn.
haha respecfully think you are right and wrong at the same time...can't compare them is right..they are completely different..on another level? not even close...lol :) cheers!
@@teklados1603 really? Can he play the instruments like DT does? Lol umm nope...and making "harmony" for musical instruments is completely different than voice with a brass and wind section to boot...maybe compare Jacob to Yanni or something that has multiple parts. Comparing 20 tracks of composition to 5 is quite the stretch but nice try yo.
I think the comments about being too mathematical are SO BS. Music is not a set in stone definition. That's why several genres of music exist, and why different techniques have evolved throughout eras of music (Baroque, Classical, Romantic, etc.). He's adding dimensions people years ago wouldn't even THINK about, but also because technology didn't really allow it at the time. He's adding so many more dimensions to music, and it's so creative. I don't think he does this for the technicality or the math. He does this because of what he FEELS. If you watch his interviews and such, he loves to see what can he add before it becomes too much (for him), and he sings and progresses based on how he feels. For example, in Hideaway, Collier doesn't consider D 432 and D 440 as those specific hertz (although he does tag on the definitions). He sings D 432 because it sounds darker to him and he wants to open up to 440 to make it sound brighter. He's so creative, and he's adding several things to the music world. Us music majors are better having listened to this man. Not angry at all, just love this man and we have to protect him at all costs lol.
Who was saying the mathmatic part, I see most people saying the opposite? The same comments are made sometimes towards my favorite band, that they are just trying to be technical etc... I would disagree of course but there is such a thing as "losing the song" so I think finding that balance is important as well. So far for me, Jacob has definitely done that well pushing the boundaries but keep the nature in tact.
@@captainmorgan1978 No comments on here. And yes there is such thing as losing a song before it's something else, but he is a great combination of both I agree. He paid homage to the original and then brought his own creative spin on it with extended harmonies, microntonalities, etc.
@@captainmorgan1978 Oh hell yeah. I'm just glad to see that people see the artistry in this man even if they don't understand all of the theories or harmonies of this man. It's quite astounding to see the influence he's had on everyone. Much respect to reviewing his songs.
But additional listenings I think that would peak your interest on the jazz/fusion portion of music is Snarky Puppy. If you have already listened to them great. But check them out! They're an interesting group who explores fusing funk, swing, classical, etc. in to all of their music.
Very impressive, but a bit too show offy to my taste. But when it comes to this kind of production, have you heard Gavin Harrison's Drum song? It's worth to check out as you're a dr... playing drums, too.
Check out the All night long one I did a few weeks ago..really good I think!... Are you talking about Anesthetize drum video? Seen many of Gavin's vids..he is awesome!
@@captainmorgan1978 Nope, I'm talking about a song, which Gavin made entirely with drums and cymbals, in the way that this vocal song is made. Here's the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KX2CaX1jwHs.html Hint: This could make a good reaction video!
Glad you made it! :) Original material? What exactly do you mean? I have a few videos that are original material on here, but no one watches them...lol Ex 1: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-td80Q8If8cg.html Ex 2: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0VTuBx7LHdM.html
