Hey guys, thanks so much for the kind words. Jaime is one of my favorite characters, I'm happy to see this video resonated with so many people. Whether you like Jaime or not, I think we can all agree that Game of Thrones is an amazing show, that we shouldn't take for granted!
You should've added the moment that Jaime arrives in Kings Landing and sees that Cersei blowed the sept of Baelor with the same wildfire he prevented the Mad King from blowing up. Great video btw, gonna share it! :)
@shenron Bronn wasn't even close to him he just showed up from nowhere. George RR Martin would have killed someone under that battle. season 8 was such a disappointment and that was one of the worst scenes
He loathed Ned for the fact that one of the most honorable men in Westeros refused to see past his preconceptions of what Jaime he had done and why, judging him as a guilty man for committing what was probably one of the most deserved acts of the entire war. Killing Mad King Aerys would have been seen as a great act if *anyone* other than his Kingsguard had done it, but because he "said some words" (his vows) he was expected to stand idly by while a mad man tore the realm apart and murdered innocents. Jaime Lannister is a victim of human hypocrisy - he did what most everyone in Westeros wanted, but they look down their noses and sneer at him so as to feel better about themselves.
Jamie says that Mad King thought that they all will be reborn from the fire. So from Ned Stark's point of view, who is almost going to win and Lannister army who is at the door. So basically, this war had already been won by the usurpers. All he had to do was, keep the mad king safe. He was fleeing and from what Jamie describes him saying and what he meant by burn them all, it was clear he was unstable and not much threat. From Ned's POV there was no need to kill him, a crazy old man. He was as helpless as you can imagine a losing king to be, who lost his all, family, power, throne, his heir, and his sanity. For Ned he was pitiful character and deserved better death than that.
Jamie says that Mad King thought that they all will be reborn from the fire. So from Ned Stark's point of view, Robert is almost going to win and Lannister army literally is at the gate of KL. So basically, this war had already been won by the usurpers. All he had to do was, keep the mad king safe as kingsguard. The mad king was fleeing and from what Jamie describes him saying as what he meant by burn them all, it was clear MK was unstable and not much of a threat. From Ned's POV there was no need to kill him, a crazy old man. He was as helpless as you can imagine a losing king to be, who lost his all, family, power, throne, his heir, and his sanity. For Ned he was pitiful character and deserved better treatment than that. Jamie somewhere knows that too and that's why always seeks Ned's approval. Sort of has hate and respect relation with him.
@@tessaricha Also the thing is,Ned saw Jamie sitting in his golden armor on iron throne with smug face,and he betrayed Aerys when it was needed to protect king,not when he killed Ned father and brother. “You served him well,while serving was safe”
@@tessaricha As Robert Baratheon said to Ned something like "For Godsake Ned of it wasn't jaime Lannister it could've been me or you" I think this was when they were deciding to do what to do with jaime.
Stupid? He saw his entire army being burnt and was given one chance to end a war in one thrust of his lance. He gambled, if he had managed it, it would have been worth anything.
It wouldn't have ended anything though.. the Dothraki would still be there and without a leader they'll probably just ravage and rape everybody in westeros right before the white walkers fuck everyone right up the arse.
I never really noticed the parallels between Jamie and Jon, who both broke their oaths and got despised by so many for doing the most honourable things anyone could‘ve done.
@@rikk319 Agreed, so many people look down on his character even after the show ended because he killed Aerys, I don't get why, dude saved a city by shwacking the mad bastard
Nicolai was brilliant casting. Does an incredible job a bringing Jamie to life. His trials as a character really exemplify the complexities of life's many circumstances & how one weights one own values agaisnt societal ones.
Because in a world like that, killing the one who you were sworn to protect is the worst thing to do no matter what, due to honor, kingslayer may sound cool, but it sure as hell isn't.
A scapegoat is someone you can safely and with no social backlash displace every single feeling of guilt or remorse or discomfort on to make yourself feel better about yourself and the shitty things you've done. At any point if someone who was in the rebellion looked back and thought 'Shit, I killed some of the Tarlys and now my house is friends with them, kinda feel bad about that... ah, it was all that fucker Jamie Lannister, that cocksure kingslaying bastard! He's the real guilty one, I was just following orders' they were utilizing a scapegoat to the fullest. Curious and humorous, mind you, how people who 'take sides' in this show with dany or the lannisters or the starks or whatever (thus completely missing the points being made) do the exact same thing with the characters opposite of their 'side'. It's an observation and reflection about the blunt reality of human nature, driven home almost hamfistedly in the first season when the show went to excruciating lengths to say 'See this Ned Stark guy? He's really honorable and all the things we tell ourselves we are and are supposed to be. See him? Got it? Okay, we're killing him and humiliating him right off the bat. Do you get what this means? Please take a minute and process what we're trying to tell you by this.' Alas, people almost immediately forgot and go back to 'Muh Dany/Jon/Stannis/Cersei is the good guy, they're gonna make everything better'
The look on Jaime's face when Ned starts lambasting him for killing the mad king is some amazing acting from Nikolaj. You can really tell that Ned's reaction took Jaime by surprise. You can see the confusion and disappointment because the one person who he felt might've approved of his decision to kill Aerys was thrown it right back into his face.
I know this comment is like 5 years too late or whatever but you do realise your not supposed to take that line seriously. Jaime is putting on an act for Tyrion
+Aaron Mitchell HanSoloxcs He save almost a million people when he killed the Mad King and sacrificed his honor forever. Him killing people in battle is not him being bad. By that logic, Ned Stark was evil as well. He got his hand cut trying to save Brienne from being raped. Also, 1 million people> Bran Stark. Just because he is an important character doesn't mean he is the most evil man. He is a flawed character. Not a hero. He is us.
Everyone here is shitting on everyone. The real point of this scene was to show that each side is not doing the right or wrong thing. In an interview about this episode, D and D were talking about how it was two main characters on differnt sides against each other for the first time. Sure, Dany is getting arrogant, and Drogon totally destroyed basically everybody, but she's planned on using them to take the Thrones since the end of season 1. To say that she is an awful person, is sort of hypocritical. She's freed slaves, she's gained loyal followers, etc. It's said plenty of times on the show; a good king/queen must be kind, yet feared. Jaime was an awful person up to season 3, constantly defending how he would "kill anyone" to protect his secret with Cersei. And Cersei is closer to being the Mad Queen than Dany is. Jaime hates that she blew up thr Sept, the only thing was that he wasn't there to prevent it. He could only come back to Cersei on the throne for what she did. Yet, he still has sex with her the episode before this. Basically, both Jaime and Dany are not entirety good people. They'll both kill for their own reasons. Some might be justified and right, while other reasons might be personal and self centered. I love both of these characters, none over the other, but I still would rather see Dany win the Throne, rather Cersei keep it. Even though we all know neither of them will be on it. And while on the subject, many people believe that GoT is getting very feminist, which is not true. They are setting up Dany's downfall, they are setting up Cersei's too. Sansa honestly just deserves where she is, based on what's happened to her. And Arya just started out episode one season one as a bad ass, like the books, and I don't see that trait going anywhere.
Anon the Space Cowboy Dany is a monster. Ordered nobles executed by crucifixion, which is a terrifyingly horrible slow and painful way to die. She's a villain who isn't aware of it.
Enigmax200581 The slave masters she crucified Were people who crucified slaves, sexually abused slaves, even the children, mutilated genitals of slaves and turned them into eunuchs, tortored them and forced them to fight gladiators in arenas where they knew they would be slaughtered. Sometimes slaves were forced to fight their own friends and family to death for the entertainment of those nobles. The unsullied she freed were molested, psychologically abused and tortured, they were stolen from their families and forced to forget their names. You think she is a monster for crucifying the slave masters, if anything she gave nothing but a fraction of the justice they deserve for their monstrous behaviour. you are one seriously fucked up person if you support the slave masters because the slave masters are arguably the most evil people in game of thrones, what Ramsay did to theon was normal for slave masters to do to innocent slaves in essos, they are worse than euron, joffrey and Ramsay put together.
Anon the Space Cowboy Let's be honest, Anything with a woman in it that isn't naked, having sex or being raped is promoting "feminism" or forced diversity. You have to be careful what you say or you might be called a social justice warrior because this is the new mentality of the internet. Petty as it is. You have men who are so absorbed in narcissism they think they are the only audience and expect everything to pander to them because they are the larger than life majority and the rest of the men and women join the bandwagon to seek acceptance and minimalize rejection. Game of thrones has avoided the sjw category because it showed enough tits and vagina to marginally escape. Anyone who calls game of thrones "social justice" is a lunatic because it's not a happy or comfortable plot for anyone, its a really tough analysis on how shit humanity is and why even the heroes are flawed, why war and power cause nothing but suffering and complications and everyone suffers one way or another. There is no justice in game of thrones, only temporary revenge and sometimes even confusion as to who the real good guys are, everyone suffers and there is a lot of room for empathy. Except for joffrey, he's a cunt. The slavers are also ironically worse than everyone else in westeros. the plot is actually very cynical towards the idea of men or women ever really having fairness at all, as emphasised by the constant suffering, the constant emotional reminder that we should feel Pity for the characters instead of pride. Even characters like arya stark are based on stoicism and having to endure her rough experiences, as brave as she is, even she is not immune to the cruelty of the world in which she is raised and is on a constant, unsatisfied internal journey for revenge. Winter is coming is not only a physical reminder of the main event in the plot, but also an early metaphor, forshadowing the brutality and harshness that all the characters will eventually experience. Its not a hopeful plot, and its very believable that the ending will be bitter sweet.
I laugh at all these "GoT became feminist." GRRM stated it many times that he likes strong female leads, and here we are, just like GRRM would have liked it
Holy shit it's only now that I realise just how much The Loot Train Attack (which is a shitty name btw) battle meant for Jaime. I completely forgot just how much he's been traumatised by fire and a Targaeryen. That attack for him must've given him some severe PTSD. That probably explains why he charged at a fucking dragon with a god damned lance. I completely forgot just how much this episode must've affected Jaime. He basically relived his worst nightmare. And I still don't understand why Jaime's constantly gotten shit for stabbing the Mad King in the back when that action fucking saved the kingdom. Why was he called a traitor and treated like shit *when he saved the entire seven kingdoms*???
Incredible video. I'm no GOT's expert, but Jaime's life is an illogical consequence of the direct laws and customs that plague those that attempt to follow an honorable path. He was part of the king's guard. He made the pact that he would protect the king no matter what. However, in the end, The Mad King's action were too much for Jaime to justify his allegiance towards him. Thus, in the end, he killed The Mad King. Even thou he was right in doing so, because of his oath as king's guard, he broke it, society then looked at him as a traitor who killed the greatest position of the kingdom: the king himself. That's why he's ridiculed. It's been his burden alone. He realizes this, and every thing he ever pledge to, everyone he's ever loved for love's sake has turned on him (except for Tyrion, his brother). Overall, Jamie is finally coming to the realization that the only moral compass he should follow isn't necessarily societies but his own. Mind you, Jamie isn't always "good", mostly due to his royal upbringing but as time as progresses, being a soldier, he realized the deep truth of how the game is played. Overall, that's the catalyst that has caused to change for his own betterment. He's sacrificed so much. If I'm wrong about this conclusion, by all means, someone correct me. Like I said, I'm not a GOT expert so any corrections or information would be appreciated.
ErwinSchrodinger64 A single "thumbs-up" for your comment feels completely inadequate, but until RU-vid creates a "standing applause" button, a thumbs-up will have to suffice. Your comment literally gave me goosebumps.
They probably just don't believe him but it's doesn't make much sense. They all hated Aerys anyway but somehow it's huge problem that he didn't face him in proper fight. Maybe even then they would say he's a traitor because he was in King's guard. It's just pure hypocrisy.
@@May04bwu It's also because he slayed Mad King well after victory is almost certain for Mad King's enemy. He's seen as an opportunist traitor. That only do it for his own glory.
SO many people saying Jaime is still a monster for what he did in Episode 1, so many others saying Daenerys is a mad-queen who just hasn't been crowned yet. Why can't anybody understand the realistic nature of the show and the books and get that these people are all complicated, with multiple facets, fears, and dreams. Jaime, a man judged and tormented by his own actions and their consequences was faced with a choice when Brann appeared in that window. His world could come crashing down and he could die for treason, or this child could die instead. His decision was wrong, UTTERLY, but it was a human one, an understandable one. And now, with Dany, that side of him that always wanted to serve truth and justice can see an outlet, and wants to protect the realms and his family, his people, from this new threat. And she, she just wants to overthrow the unjust who exiled her and tried to murder her, to rule the realm in peace like she tried to do in Meereen. That's the point in GRR Martin's work. To show humans, not fantasy tropes. Complex and complicated, faced with difficult decisions and with real reactions.
"What about Aerys Targaryen. What did the Mad King say when you stabbed him in the back, I never asked." "He said the same thing he'd been saying for hours. Burn them all."
That scene with Brienne, that's when I think most people started seeing him with different eyes. I've always thought of him as a good guy, shame he gets manipulated by his sister so easily. Every single mistake he's done in his life was for her. Most notably: 1) He entered the kingsguard for her, forsaking his claim on the lordship of Casterly Rock 2) He tried to kill Bran But there is good in him, and he'll come around before it's too late. Thank you Nikolaj for delivering the single most complex character in the show so beautifully.
The one thing that defines Jaime over everything else is love for his family. He went to great lengths to be of use to his sister, and he went to great lengths to protect his brother, in both cases jeopardizing his position. All because he loved them dearly. He is handsome, he is skilled, and he is filthy rich. He learned to fight with the best warriors who ever lived. He could have had half of the ladies in the kingdoms, but he is probably the only monogamic major character in the show. He could have watched thousands burn, but he chose to taint his own honor forever by killing his king. He could have betrayed Cat, could have abandoned Brienne, could have done nothing to free Tyrion, both when he got taken by Cat and when he was arrested by Tywin. He serves, and he is tragic in his service. Just like Jon says, Jaime has all the makings of a King. If Westeros had a Batman, it would be Ser Jaime.
"I've always thought of him as a good guy" same, when I saw him push a ten year old child to what he thought was his death in that first episode all that I could think of was how much I admired him and his morals.
all characters are ambiguous, the same way real life people are. no one is all good, safe for Podrick. but I'd like to remind you that he was conflicted, and he was only convinced to push him off when his sister repeated "he saw us"
I think the mad king is the most misunderstood character in game of thrones. It seems to me all that happened is the mad king was getting increasingly appalled by the rampant consumerism in his kingdom. BURN THE MALL!! BURN THE MALL!!
The thing is that people in Westeros don't know a lot about Dany, just her father. So you gotta think that Jamie thought he was gonna save the whole world from death if he stabbed her
He kinda was saving the world. Westeros doesn't need dragons that she can't control, they don't need a queen who doesn't know how to rule their lands. She plans to end the game by taking away all other houses abilities to stand against her, that is what breaking the wheel means, that her house will have all the power..
@@kapitan19969838 Me too. I think that's how it's going to her end. With her on the throne, a mad queen, waiting for another "Kingslayer" to finish her reign. I think the past will repeat itself.
I wonder if this qualifies Jaime as a possibility for Azor Ahai. He drowns, he dies. He gets CPR on the Field of Fire, he would be reborn amidst salt and smoke.
wow, this really made me rethink the whole scene. I was more caught up in the satisfaction of seeing the lannisters stopped in their tracks. Jaimes gotta be my favorite character in the show.
Nathan Patorkricoborwun Jaime is one of the few characters that is interesting to me at this point. Daenarys does not show much of flaws, everything is I AM SUPPOSED TO BE RULER! Jaime is fleshed out.
Well.... we were suppose to think that this whole scene was more of a brutal massacre then to actually find it satisfying to see men burn alive (as if all of those soldiers deserved it). It's the simple case of the "shadowy figures in the enemy lines"... it's the same reason why people weep for dead British soldiers and laugh at dead German soldiers in WW1 and 2 .
Scottx125Productions - Spiffingly Serious British Gaming! It seems like a lot brutal idiots in this comment section believes the Lannisters deserved worse. I fuckinng hate those who hate the lannisters
baton 9996 nah, Tyrion becomes King, I guarantee it. And no, I haven’t seen the spoilers, so if you disagree with me or know I’m right or whatever, I’d rather not you tell me
YOU ARE AN IDIOT BIG IDIOT WITHOUT BRAIN YOU ARE PATHETIC I SHUT YOU UP HE IS BAD CHARACTER YOU ARE NOT RESPONDING BECAUSE YOU ARE AFFRAID OF ME I AM NOT BECAUSE I DO NOT FEAR AN IDIOT LIKE YOU YOU WILL ALWAYS BE AFFRAID OF ME AND I WILL NEVER BE YOU COWARD.
"By what right does the wolf judge the lion?' - Jaime Lannister Goes to show it's not all black and white. Even the honourable Ned Stark made the mistake of not hearing Jaime's side of the story; that's what led to the animosity between the two. Wow, really puts things into perspective.
To Ned Stark, Jaime had just broken his most sacred oath and got a free out-of-jail card. Now, Ned would not seek out Jaime, but Jaime constantly sought him out for a verbal fight or a real one even so how could Ned Stark hear his story? when did Jaime offer such a tale to him? Not when he was talking about how Ned's father and brother screamed as they were burned alive. I'm surprised Ned Stark didn't hate him more.
I love the contrast in honour between the two: Jaime being the oathbreaker and ned the most honourable one but its not that simple: They were both in a fight were the opponent was stabbed in the back and ned killed arthur dayne later while jaime didnt kill ned
He pushed ned's son because had he not it would have meant him, his sister, and his children being tortured and killed then leading to an unstoppable war. He killed Ned's men because based in the information he had at the time he saw Ned as just another person bullying his little brother, and Jaime was the only one who ever stood up for him.
Alec, you misunderstand Jaime. Jaime is said to be one of the most morally grey characters of the show, and a lot of people can relate to him if you minus incest and replace it with a loved one, If Bran said something, that means Jaime, Cersei and their kids face execution- and somebody like Robert who is known to have an ill-temper would certainly do it. Jaime did it because of that. Jaime identified with his sword hand, explaining that his sword hand is pretty much what made him a person. When he lost that hand, he ended up becoming more open minded.
That was not his rationale when pushing Bran, he was not at all remorseful - "the things I do for love". And that does not at all atone for killings Ned's men.
It was his reasoning, his POV chapters have him thinking about it in ASOIF. Jaime knows how politics work, sure covering his incest was a plus, but the reason he has always needed to cover it is because such knowledge would consume the continent in war. And yes that is why he attacked ned, ned even openly stated "he was taken under my command". Jaime
The episode with Ed Sheeran as the singing lannister soldier, really showed in my opinion that the lannister soldiers are just people too. Who rather want to be home with their families than dying fighting in a war. I didn't like seeing those lannister soldiers burn and suffer.
If it makes you feel better, Ed's group were newer recruits sent out on patrol. The soldiers with Jaime were likely veteran soldiers that served under Tywin, the best of the best- who also had a reputation of burning and looting, showing no mercy.
Yeah, Ed was great. Too bad we have all those other scenes over the last six seasons of the Lannister troops being amoral monsters protected by their noble employers.
Dany and Drogon obliterating the Lannister troops seemed so awesome and righteous, as Jamie says, it felt like justice (at the time). By placing these scenes together you completely changed the context of that battle scene for me. You accomplished what the show runners tried and failed to do.
Agreed. I would say him and Theon are the two characters that have changed the most over the course of the series. Arya changed as well but hers feels more like she just changed into what she going to be all along.
agreed, the hound. he's done some really bad, bad shit, but he's full of regrets and sadness as expressed in the Broken Man and is capable of kindness. but, it's hard to understand him.
thats what i loved about the character. he wasnt a hero or a bad guy, he was breaking stereotypes and he was complexed. just like real humans. but now they made him the average hero stereotype and all is left for him is to wear a cape and have the S symbol on his chest.
The next serie I watch where a kid is pushed off a window on complete porpuse aiming to even kill him just to defend his nasty incest I will not judge him thank you
The scene where Jaime watches in horror as his men burn in flames really drives the idea that war is supposed to be gritty and hard to watch, rather than the conventional views of war being heroic and valiant as you ride into battle. Brilliant from the writers and directors.
snorcutter Yeah, Dany convinces herself that she is doing the right thing, she doesn't even properly listen to counsel. She's too reckless in my opinion.
@Yonver, But she DID listen to council. If some of the braindead sheep morons watching this show such as yourself, paid actual attention to the show while watching, you would understand. Jon Snow suggested she shouldn't attack the cities/castles because it would be to horrible, and that is EXACTLY what she is trying to avoid doing. And she did so in this case and attacked the Army in open field, listening to Jon and not going to the Red Keep. Pay attention fool. Any other evil bitch would have burned the cities down by now to take the entire 7 kingdoms with those Dragons.
the thing that she considered burning kings landing to the crisp (like her mad father) just proves she is blood thirsty cunt. she has no right to rule over 7 kingdoms. those kingdoms deserve independance, not some murdering conqueror who burns and crucify people alive (no.. not just soldiers, she burner alive nobles..), she also threatened to kill varys, she is threatning to kill soldiers who surrendered (as in trailer for 5th episode) etd., she is pure evil
Peter Bergestein except she wasn't just doing those things on a random whim. As for the execution of the slave masters if you remember they literally did that same thing to over 100 children...not regular people, KIDS. Dany just returned the favor. Any other executions were to stop the slavers from funding those cowards who kept stabbing her soldiers from behind when they were on patrol without having the courage to fight an actual war.
Her conquest was not born of a desire to kill, but stuff happened. She wanted to free the people of Slavers bay from their oppression. When one of her dragons killed a child she locked them up. I guarantee you Cersei would not have done that. I will grant that the incident with the khals was unnecessary. However she is still the complete opposite of Cersei who cares nothing for her subjects, which she clearly stated, and demonstrated when she killed and injured hundreds of innocent civilians in and around the sept. She could have sent the soldiers to the priests hideout, because she had been there previously, and taken care of them without placing an entire section of the city in danger.
Among the tons of custom videos that can be found on the RU-vid, this is, in my opinion, the best one. The chosen scenes, the voices, the ending speech repeating the opening speech, the music... all things perfectly stick together! This video is perfect.
People say that Sandor is scared of fire because his face got burnt. Jamie saw fire every day and heard their screams. Fire is all around him and every time, he sees it all again.
MAN, your editing was perfect. and i mean perfect. Im not a fan of jaime but after this video, damn i feel completely different. What a video bro. You got a new subscriber
Wow. Props to whoever made this. I always rave about how much better the books are than the show but I forget that this show is what made me pick up those books in the first place. I had never read a full book on my own accord before and this series inspired me to make it all the way through, not one, but five entire novels. This is truly the greatest television series of all time.
I don't think I've ever seen a character development of this caliber in my whole life. Funny, I seriously fucking hated him in the first two seasons... and now here I am, hoping he is the Prince that was promised...
A kingslayer who is hated by his very own people, charged at a dragon on a horse with one hand to kill Daenerys who was burning the people alive - the same reason why he killed her father who wanted to burn the people alive. He fought for the people yet they call him a traitor and a kingslayer. That’s life! He became my favourite character since season 2. I really started liking him when he hit the soldier who stabbed Ned Stark from behind. It showed how honourable he is.
Wow. That's a haunting piece you've put together. Probably the best video I've seen that really digs into jaimes humanity and his development in the books (I'm still not over what they did to him in the show, he deserved a better end than that, same as Stannis). Something that Jaime doesn't really do in the show that he does in the books is confront the trauma he experienced when he realised that his skills and his honour meant nothing. He was a hostage at best and an insult made by Aerys to Tywin at worst. That realisation in the books is what really won me over to Jaime. He's the little lad we all were. We wanted to be heroes. What we get to be very rarely resembles anything like what we imagined. Maybe it's just childish idealism or maybe the world's just to ugly to allow that ideal to exist. Whatever it is its an awful shame.
It was only over the course of the series that I began to see Jaime was never a villain. Everything he does he is doing to protect people. When he pushed bran out of the window he did it to protect himself and the woman he loved as well as his children. When he attacked Ned he did it to protect his brother. Everything he does is a complicated moral dilemma where he has made the honorable choice more often than not. He is among my favorite characters in the show.
