Alright, I’m 21 too. I’m not even remotely attracted to teenagers. Once you pass that age, you realize how vulnerable, gullible, and inexperienced they are. They are still immature. This goes for both sexes. Why would anyone be attracted to them?? It’s disgusting.
I was thinking of Tati too, I wouldn't be surprised if she timed her comeback to now. Then again her accusations was only a part of what the arguments were about I think, didn't really pay any attention to it.
Tbf I would have respected Tati a bit more now, if she hadn’t made that other video where she’s basically apologising to James and pushing all the blame on Jeffree Star and Shane Dawson.
I’ll never like Tati. She still befriended someone underage (JC) and pursued him. Tatis influence could have caused great harm to JC, by her own admission yet still followed through. She was an adult who lacked moral consciousness
It’s the fact that he can easily meet someone his age outside of social media but chooses to seek out someone on there, knowing he has young fans. It seems extremely calculated.
@@sukhdeepbhangal6061 Absolutely, Ethan made an excellent point where men may need their own Me Too movement. This is not being taken as seriously as it should.
Maybe people are right when they say James personality is just that bad, he has to use his young fan base as his personal dating pool. Or he likes the power dynamic that dating younger and less experienced people brings. Which is awful and needs to stop.
I mean it seems like they go to him. He doesn't even have to try. Not saying it's right or it's their fault. I'm saying he doesn't have to try they just come to him he doesn't even need to look.
What I don’t understand is why do you even have to ask if he’s 18. That boy LOOKS like a child. Why is James physically attracted to guys that look prepubescent??? As a 25 y/o grown woman I can’t even imagine being attracted to a boy who looks like that. I see him instantly as a child. Poor boy :(
Seeing as how he likes to go after fans he must get off on the idea of taking advantage of someone young and less powerful than him. It's gross and a crime.
@@henryviiiofengland966 literally this! Boys that were his type were probably not interested in him so now that they are he is trying to relive what he hasn't had a chance to when he was of that age.
I love seeing Ethan get hype, then Trisha start get hype over things she was right about, but never had the real support from a friend. Their friendship is certainly interesting and cool to see how they started together.
@Cony Budding lol. You've probably only seen the clip of Joji's reaction and not the enitre podcast. Watch it... what he said was taken out of context, but isn't false either way.
@Cony Budding women in a nature setting were meant to be the weaker link.. nature is sexist, but that doesn't mean we have to be because we're not in a nature setting and we haven't been in one for thousands of years. Men in a nature settings were meant to go hunt and kill and bring food to their wives. That doesn't mean that modern men are supposed to do the same, given a difference in time.
It's a wonderful thing to just see people getting along, learning about each other and compromise, I really love this duo. I hate Trisha's trolling and the way she stuck by Shane for waaaaay too long after he showed his true colors but at least she saw sense on that one.
@@patrickbateman4095 people who are involved with the davey vanity situation are saying his actually made things harder. Plus is onision is still free what did he actually do besides get money off the show?
James gets into these situations because he likes young boyish looks, which is problematic in itself. He's deliberately fishing out boys as young as 14 years old *based on his preference.* A 21-year-old man would have to go out of his way to interact with minors and this is exactly what's happening. His tiktok friendships and his collaborations expanded his reach to a younger audience. This man is not clueless, he knows his fans better than anybody else and is exploiting them sexually. Edit: I'm not saying that James goes after minors because they're minors, but he goes after young boyish looks and that gets him involved with minors. His preference blurs that line for him, and now he's breaking the law. When I was 21, I never had an issue with men and their age. I didn't need to question how old they were. If James has to ask, he has a problem that needs to be addressed. We're talking about a repeat offense, not one isolated incident. He's way too comfortable doing what he's doing. His sexual life is his business, but he knows the age demographic of his audience and has a responsibility to set appropriate boundaries. Instead, he's having intimate interactions with them knowing there's always a high probability he's dealing with an underage boy. He can't just say he didn't know their age, he knew enough not to be in this position at all.
he's 21 and he's friends with teens bro, I'm 21 and the thought of being FRIENDS with someone who's still in highschool is appalling to me i have no idea wtf James is doing
yeah, people like him always seek out 'jobs' that surround them with kids, teens. in churches, schools, boy scouts etc, always where they have authority over someone young. sick
James is a celebrity and he should be careful with who he talks to, this isn’t even the first time this has happened. Not to mention sending nudes to fans is just plain weird.
I expected more from him. The first time it happened I was skeptical, because all the drama behind it. But common! If he is genuinely this stupid I can’t continue supporting him. It’s gross, doing this with a fan. Glad there is an investigation, we will see how it unfolds.
He's a celebrity and has access to so many people in his line of work. There are a lot of gay men in the beauty industry. But he always cruises for literal boys on social media. He has so many more dating and fwb opportunities than an average woman or man does, and still.
@@MadeOfConfusion she’s got BPD, so I think she’s just getting help and is in a better position as a whole. Not saying BPD excuses her actions, but it certainly explains why she flip flops between being somewhat chill and completely bonkers.
@@danmac00 yeah honestly. And to add on. She’s always been smart. I think it may been her bouncy energy that over shadows her smartness but watching her previous videos I could always tell she was so smart.
Hate to admit it but I think he’s gonna get away with it because of his status unfortunately. He still gaining followers, seems unbothered, and his stans basically don’t care if he commits crimes like this
@@MrFake101 He isn't going to prison. At the absolute WORST, he will get a misdemeanor for "Child Annoyance" and may have to register as a sex offender. Thats the WORST that could happen and it may not even get that far. Its unfortunate but that's how the justice system works.
I know so heartbreaking, seems also like she’s had a lifelong battle with people not believing her. I’m so happy things she’s said in the past is coming to light and new evidence is coming out. Like with David D, and James & Jeffree. She deserves so much better and hearing stories of her childhood makes so much sense to how it negatively affected her 💔
Right, I want her to expose more of her traumas because she really needs to feel like that isn't ok and she doesn't need to be afraid to speak about it.
Ya know what I’m 19 and that kid looks YOUNG, I myself would never even look twice at that kid because he LOOKS like he’s 15, James needs to quit with the excuses the kid looks like a kid it’s not hard to see
So wtf happened? Were Shane and Jeffree right?! Or were they actually just trying to get rid of him. This story has gone back and forth so many times I’m so confused 😅
@@melody5893 All of them. Jeffree and Shane have racist tendencies, Shane has predatory tendencies, Tati sold out and uses drama for views, James is just a fucking creep.
I mean they were probably right but in the grand scheme of things they're both WORSE than James, individually and combined lol. So long story short, they're all trash who deserve to face the consequences of their actions.
@@freesuckerMCR I mean James literally sent nudes to a minor while Shane made gross and highly inappropriate jokes. I don’t think that’s on the same level but don’t get me wrong it was still messed up. I just think James needs to be held accountable maybe even more because this keeps happening. It’s like he can’t help himself in going after fans as well as younger looking men.
I'm so sick of the "I didnt know their age" crap. In the internet age there is NO excuse. Literally scroll through their Instagram for 10 minutes. See a high-school graduation photo? No? Then maybe dip.
The vitamins made her speak out about something that's probably true. Still, even in that case, she was at least tolerating it before which sais a lot about her morals to me. All of these people are questionable. Just some more than others.
@@jeannebraun367 Yeah..... She condoned this because it benefited her pockets lmao. She and James saw James Charles as an impressionable piggy bank. She just didn't bank on him being a POS predator lmaooo
I'm kinda happy for Trisha. I don't know what's going on in her life, but she looks a whole lot better in these videos. I'm glad she's getting support and working on her mental and emotional health. The way she spoke about getting help if you're sick and saying it's okay but GET HELP stuck with me.
Ethan and Trisha bring out the best in each other. Trisha definitely needs people like Ethan and hila in her life. Calm, forgiving and understanding. Ethan understands how Trisha can get and doesn’t take offence. He won’t give her anything to work with and he then goes on to bring the best out in her. I think she feels secure and safe around him. It’s nice how they support each other, this has been her best career and possibly personal choice for a very long time.
This podcast simulates the feeling of when you introduce your 2 pretty best friends to each other and they like each other way more than they like you 💁♀️
James could really go to prison for this the law doesn’t care that the boy told him that he was 18 the law states that it is up to the person to know how old the other person is before proceeding with any sort of relationship or sexual acts so the person is at fault for not asking for any proof of age and will go to jail or have some sort of legal repercussions. Hopefully James gets what he deserves and understands that he isn’t untouchable
I completely agree that he should be properly punished for his actions now and it's ridiculous he hasn't been so far but I fully believe in karma. So he's acting all unbothered now but what goes around comes around. Just look at Shane.
The problem is if karma is real, why did it let Shane Dawson get away with the stuff he did for so long? He'd been doing the shit for over a decade, and it was only until last year that he actually faced consequences for his actions. I don't want James to keep getting away with this shit and maybe face consequences 10 years from now.
@@MrSupersayian4goku I completely agree! But at this point I'm just holding out hope he won't get away with forever. That eventually he will get what's coming for him. You are absolutely right though.
I’m almost 25 and I can’t imagine even dating a 22 year old. As you age and mature you realize that anyone under 23 is usually still figuring out life.
That's probably the whole point. That there isn't much. My guess is that's exactly why he's finding it so attractive. It shows him how young these people are.
@@phoenixashe7174 I doubt it I mean he has the same young audience like Logan Paul and he gained a million subscribers after showing a literal dead body and made light of it. These kids will defend their favorite creator no matter what they do. It’s honestly really messed up
@@taylors445 I do not think it’s fair to bring his old mistakes to this. It’s clear he has changed a lot, so has Trisha who has made mistakes in the past. And I’m pretty sure David, James, Jeffree, and Shane will be over very soon, David already is. It takes some time for people to catch up to this. I personally found out about all the things going on with these four only yesterday.
Yes thank you for pointing that out. No matter what, the fact that he uses his mostly underaged fan base as a personal dating pool is so scummy. He never has a boyfriend in real life and it honestly makes me wonder if he likes the fact that he can hold so much power in a relationship with a fan or someone younger. He knows how much influence he has and he definitely knows how young his democratic is. For him to basically exploit that fucking gross. That’s what makes me think he’s fully aware he’s talking to underage boys.
Yep. It's fucked up in many different ways. Even if the people he pursues were over 18 but looked younger, that's disturbing enough for me and has pedophile written all over it for me.
this is the first time i look at ethan and think he looks sexy for real. out of all the outfits i've seen him in the past few years, this denim look on him is doing it for me. *wth*
That's the problem. When people become famous and wealthy they realize they can have whoever they want. That includes illegal stuff which is just more than horrible or any other disgusting adjective out there :(.. But not all famous and wealthy people are like that thankfully.. Just the evil and horrid ones who deserve to go to jail for the rest of their lives.
I'm sorry but what James was doing is not flirting! You can intimate physical interest without photos and gross messages about pleasuring yourself. This is why I don't know how to flirt or want to flirt because this is what it has devolved into and its gross.
It infuriates me that nobody is believing him because he is a boy It really breaks my heart as a girl I’ve experienced things like this (not from a celebrity tho) and most people will believe me. even as a girl people are still skeptical it’s really sad I can’t imagine how he must feel he must feel awful please show compassion people to this boy! because his fans are saying he’s a clout chaser! This is disgusting my heart goes out to this boy :(
I think it depends on anybody but you are right it happens a lot with boys. But now it seems like a lot of people aren’t believing the victims because of so many lying about being raped and abused and scamming people for money and stuff like that. It hurts the real victims
The people defending James boggles my mind. Shane made really gross jokes, has never had a victim come forward saying he DMed or tried to do anything with a minor, ever. Gross trash jokes for attention and people were so much quicker to cancel him. James keeps doing this. James won't stop and has zero respect for someones sexuality. Tati never said she lied about the things she mentioned him saying, he said because hes famous he can get straight guys. In a collab with Ryland, when ryland suggests dating gay or bi guys instead of straight guys who treat him poorly, he said "whats the challenge in that" or whats the fun in that, and like....imagine a straight creator talking about lesbians this way. Last, he promoted pushing yourself and catfishing straight men. All those skits he did throwing himself at Grayson, that sends a message to his young gay fans that this is normal, that this is ok, and if his fans try this in many places in the world, they are putting themselves in danger. The world is not as safe as LA for LGBTQ+ My friend went out to celebrate graduating college. He got tipsy, told a random guy that he had beautiful eyes and that his eyes matched his shirt. Thats all he said and later that night the man brutally beat him. He is paralyzed. His engineering degree unusable, because he said the wrong thing to a homophobic man with rage problems.
lmao i love how just last year everyone keep calling James "teenager" "young boy" but now people called him "grown ass man" even though he's been an adult since years ago.
@@lilac1922 yeah, im 20 and the thought of talking to a 16 year old that way makes me fucking nauseous. you dont really realize until youre older just how YOUNG teenagers are.
Ive been watching h3h3 since like 2015 and i dont agree with what hes doing. trisha is the real problem tbh. ever since frenemies started ethans become more and more of an asshole.
@@waira_atomic.coffin I mean do you have a problem with a guy using his platform to call out predatory behaviour? I’ll admit, Ethan’s fucked up a few times but sticking with Trisha has turned out to be great for both parties. Ethan has a new podcast format that he seems to enjoy, and Trisha seems like she’s improving a lot in terms of her mental state. She’s a lot more likeable now.
@@waira_atomic.coffin I kinda get what you’re saying man - still really enjoy the content though and I don’t think Trisha is the problem, I feel like Ethan’s been spiralling this way since just before Trisha joined h3h3.
I'm confused, isn't this what Tati and Jefree were saying a couple of years ago? And they got backlash for lying about it? So... Were they lying or not?
They were saying he was harassing straight guys I thought. But either way they didn’t have evidence. Maybe they just witnessed his behavior? This is becoming a pattern
Theres definitely been evidence of him going after straight men. He's identified as female on dating apps wearing a wig in order to connect with straight men. He's messaged his straight fans before, even married men. There was also a video with shane and ryland where he says he prefers straight men over gay men. Overall, it all lines up with him not being able to respect boundaries as tati explained in her video. As it seems he's continuing to do here with messaging his younger fans.
Love y’all but just to let you know that Chris Hansen outed victims of Onision without consent and his girlfriend harassed people speaking out against him
James has done this EXACT same thing to my friend who is 16, minus the nudes I believe ( if he did my friend didn’t tell me) and my friend won’t speak out bc he’s not out yet publicly and he has some TikTok clout. I PROMISE this shit is on purpose.
@@AA-ps2iw federally in the United States, its 18 years old everywhere. If he was to get in trouble, most likely it would be federally because it’s over the internet and no one state has jurisdiction if he talks to multiple people from all over. So either way he would be breaking the law.
I feel like the big factor about his fanbase giving him a pass is because he was almost cancelled once and he did the uno card, people now latch on to that fact and say "he's innocent! Remember what happened last time!" Unfortunately being a victim once doesn't mean you'll never turn into the abuser
At 6:50 Trisha begins to say "Well, let's not body-shame..." (but then realized why Ethan was saying ew) That shows her true character. She seems to be a genuine, intelligent, and compassionate person. Who would've thought I'd come to like Trisha Paytas over the years?? 😆
I can’t help but think that James is getting a pass because he’s gay?? Look at Chris D’elia!? Guy didn’t even talk to anyone underage and he got cancelled. I swear they are taking it easy on him because it’s harder to openly hate on such a flamboyant character even though it has nothing to do with his sexuality. Gross is gross... idc what type of body parts you like to play with!
Trish is so different now, confident, more well spoken and seems so comfortable. I absolutely love the family dynamic and how ethan and hila are genuinely here for trish. I stan❤️❤️❤️
I hope people give the same attention as they did to pyro, who was much younger and actually didn’t know the age and wasn’t even specifically looking for a young dude, yet he got so much shit for it. While here you have 21 years old James and you’d think that after all that happen he would learn his lesson and be more responsible and careful. Also 12:16 that is so true, he’s acting like it was surprising that this stranger was following him and so decided to know who he is, as if he’s a regular person that only has friends/family on his social media.
H3, can you start providing hotlines/resource information for sensitive topics like abuse and etc. in the description? Or in a pinned comment? I think it would be helpful for those who may feel triggered/are in need of those resources, education/awareness, and general just good practice. Thank you for covering this topic and honestly going so ham on it because I think this should be the straw to the camel's back when concerning CSA and James Charles
@@NaudVanDalen It's not fine. Besides, James is 24 so even of the fan was 18, it still would be creepy. James seeks out boys that look very young, that's a predator mentality and he seeks out straight men and has tried to use the fact that he's a celeb as a reason to prey on them. Not okay
He literally posted a video three days ago of him painting and everybody in the comments are like OMG you’re so good and they’re literally not talking about anything that happened.
