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[Course 2 Lesson 2 Part 2]
We continue working with Japanese location words.
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@japanesefromzero
@japanesefromzero 2 года назад
Power up your Japanese on FromZero.com (lessons, quizzes, games, ask-a-teacher)
@RonaldSL-
@RonaldSL- 8 лет назад
Book 2, course 2, lesson 2, part 2, two to 2 too
@Ohakoo
@Ohakoo 3 года назад
A checkpoint for you travellers. Glad you have arrived tthis far, have a warm tea.
@Fennetic
@Fennetic 3 года назад
おはこだん、ありがとうございます
@doz491
@doz491 7 лет назад
Pun alert!!! Q: What are we learning in the next lesson? A: I どの (I dunno) Get it...
@リチャ-i3f
@リチャ-i3f 5 лет назад
Heh... puns...
@solitary_mind
@solitary_mind 5 лет назад
Watches the video, thinks about the joke, then comes back to the previous video to set it up in the comments.
@korumu
@korumu 4 года назад
Tsumetai
@mysterioussoup3393
@mysterioussoup3393 6 месяцев назад
Sugoi...
@MegaFloid
@MegaFloid 6 лет назад
Hey george! Your Channel is incredible. I'm Brazilian and learning japanese on my own! Very lifechanging!
@coloquen
@coloquen 3 года назад
Como que foi sua jornada? ;)
@Mayaotsu
@Mayaotsu 3 года назад
Eu tbm estou aprendendo sozinho
@rafaelmesquita7044
@rafaelmesquita7044 3 года назад
良かったですね!私も一人で日本語を勉強しているブラジル人ですよ!日本語をまだ勉強していますか。多分スカイプやズームで一緒に練習できるかな〜 Pô, que maneiro! Também sou um brasileiro que está estudando sozinho. Ainda está estudando? Talvez pudéssemos fazer um grupo no Skype, Zoom, etc. para praticar.
@gcnubian
@gcnubian 7 лет назад
My measurement of progress is how long I have to have the video paused before I can procure an answer. In this video, I didn't pause the video once (except to type this because RU-vid deletes your comment if you have autoplay on, which I do). BIG accomplishment for me. Thank you Jo-ji-sensei! ^_^
@laplaceduh
@laplaceduh 3 года назад
Your positivity and excitement about teaching Japanese is so uplifting and motivating. You are doing such a great thing here. Thank you very much for your effort.
@AndrewHarmsArtwork
@AndrewHarmsArtwork 5 лет назад
Thanks for your interjection at 10:53... honestly feeling down today because of unrelated issues, and am studying to get my mind off things. You made me feel nice about myself. Thanks so much for all your content, as it has been a tremendous help.
@NoobixCube
@NoobixCube 6 лет назад
That distinction between は and が just made something in Mandarin clearer to me. I've been having trouble with "ba" sentences, which are a grammatical form which kind of mimics は behaviour in Japanese. I've always had a general feel for は and が , but I never really realised that は contains a definite determiner (a "the" or similar). This makes 把 (ba) make more sense in Mandarin.
@wompwomp9946
@wompwomp9946 7 лет назад
I came back after a month and a half and I'm happy to say this lesson makes so much more sense. :D I can "feel" the difference more than I could the first time around.
@akishingoal
@akishingoal 6 лет назад
I'm not sure why, but this video is not listed on the online course in the "Lesson Videos" section. I nearly missed it =)
@MiharuTheFox
@MiharuTheFox 8 лет назад
For "What is on top of the desk?", is there a way to say it using です? Like ”つくえのうえに(は)なんですか”? Just wondering 'cuz it sounds weird when I say it but I didn't know if it was incorrect.
@RonaldSL-
@RonaldSL- 8 лет назад
I'd go with imasu/arimasu ka
@diogocosta4256
@diogocosta4256 8 лет назад
It does sound odd xD But if you say 「つくえのうえにはなんですか」 it sounds a little bit better ahah I've no idea if it is legit though
@RonaldSL-
@RonaldSL- 8 лет назад
Diogo Costa I would understand, but I don't know if it's 100% accurate. But it looks fine. :)
@diogocosta4256
@diogocosta4256 8 лет назад
+RonaldASL ロナルド Well yea, I think it could be more accurate if one said: つくえのうえにあるものは なんですか (= As for the thing on top of the desk, what is it?) But I think it is still legit if we omit (aru mono)
@MegaFloid
@MegaFloid 6 лет назад
あなたは同じことを言った
@oisif950
@oisif950 3 года назад
i really LOVE how you give multiple versions of sentences, cuz i like to make up my own sentences and having you clarify it is just *chef kiss*
@thepolymathuniverse9694
@thepolymathuniverse9694 5 лет назад
Yes, of course we're having fun! How can we not when your lessons are so engaging? =)
@angiestaats7273
@angiestaats7273 5 лет назад
I have been studying Japanese for 3 years now. I have struggled with some of the most basic concepts. Thank you George 😄 You truly are a genius on how you explain these concepts. 先生、どうもありがとうございました。
@baxterpaulini4660
@baxterpaulini4660 3 года назад
How’s your progress?
@angiestaats7273
@angiestaats7273 3 года назад
@@baxterpaulini4660 I am still studying, but at a slow pace. If I don't studying I feel the language slipping...sigh. I watch George's videos for a refresher. His teaching method is so great! 🙂👍
@Katatonya
@Katatonya 2 года назад
@@angiestaats7273 There's a great alternative to studying for not forgetting it, use it! There's plenty of Japanese shows online to watch.
@anonisnoone6125
@anonisnoone6125 Год назад
@@angiestaats7273 2 years later and I'm interested to know ur progress as well.
@PinkyPop2
@PinkyPop2 7 лет назад
"You'll learn later on that Shitai also means I want to do" ... Haha somehow I already knew that
@Rizztana
@Rizztana 4 года назад
ははははは
@psychobear10
@psychobear10 3 года назад
@@Rizztana 草
@Fennetic
@Fennetic 3 года назад
@@psychobear10 草の電車🚃
@DaddelZeit
@DaddelZeit Год назад
Thank you so much, George. I wondered in the lesson, if I have to use location before or after the subject. Now i know the actual difference between using wa and ga with location. Better watched this before the workbook-part 😅Each lesson seems so small by itself, but if I look back, there's already a bunch of topics to talk about while it all started with nothing more than saying "oo desu"
@seshlauren
@seshlauren 3 года назад
Love these lessons. Can’t believe I got all the answers correct before you said them
@watchmakerful
@watchmakerful 7 лет назад
Is it possible to distinguish "on the desk" (directly on top of it) and "above the desk"?
@yoimati
@yoimati 6 лет назад
うえ means both ''on the desk'' and ''above the desk''. We don't have any ''above-conception-word'' to express in a location wise. When we want to say ''above'' in Japanese, we must add some explaining words. e.g. I tried to put an apple floting a little bit apart from the top of the desk, but I failed. (like this)
@wompwomp9946
@wompwomp9946 5 лет назад
y'know...I first watched this three years ago...unfortunately I didn't keep up with my studies diligently enough, now I'm trying again. I could NOT wrap my head around this lesson the first time around, but it feels natural and I completely understand what he's talking about now. yay
@gastonmartinez6316
@gastonmartinez6316 Год назад
You inspired me to start learning Japanese!! This will be very useful for my job so ありがとうございます!! PS: Does どこに mean both where at and where to?
@milkyidonothavealastname6168
@milkyidonothavealastname6168 Месяц назад
Yes
@deebop3539
@deebop3539 3 года назад
It helps so much to watch these videos as companions to self studying with the Japanese from Zero books. Thanks.
@eepy_bibi
@eepy_bibi 6 лет назад
" 机の上に " is one hell of a tongue twister for me.
@myupsanddowns8720
@myupsanddowns8720 4 года назад
Thank you very much, Geoge. This is, by far. the best lesson on prepositions. I had been struggling to really understand the difference between those kinds of sentences.
@racool911
@racool911 2 месяца назад
Is this commenting now allowed lol?
@logan8374
@logan8374 6 лет назад
just when I'm feeling down you gave your speech about how far we've come and how far we will go (all while having fun). Thanks george. the real GOAT
@AnnaHans88
@AnnaHans88 Год назад
You explain particles so well. The best I've seen.
@kalel2910
@kalel2910 7 лет назад
lmao, "what if its dead!"
@lottieplaysnintendo
@lottieplaysnintendo 7 лет назад
kalel2910 omg I was about to comment that 🤣
@kaibsix
@kaibsix 9 месяцев назад
Is it alive or not alive or animate and inanimate? What about trees, plants ect.? They are alive. Honest question
@japanesefromzero
@japanesefromzero 9 месяцев назад
Great question. It’s ある for plants.
@amrmoneer5881
@amrmoneer5881 6 лет назад
i had fun watching this lesson. thank you George-san!
@StarLad9
@StarLad9 5 лет назад
I read somewhere that it was decided that AI/living robots and the like will be called "imasu"
@MrsShirotora
@MrsShirotora 5 лет назад
This was exactly what I was wondering after watching this video.
@hamzahajji5814
@hamzahajji5814 2 года назад
Great job as always, I'm following these videos along with the books and I feel I'm making progress . I have a question though and please don't judge me, why is it that in the sentence "ねこはどこですか。" we don't need the に, but if we use the verbs ある/いる we need the に? Thanks
@scottbeveridge4626
@scottbeveridge4626 9 месяцев назад
Georgeさん こんにちは Quick question on this, I know you’re a busy man and may not get round to seeing it but wanted to ask. つくえのうえにねこがいます  ねこはつくえのうえにいます How the bottom one is referred to if you know the cat and the top one more for if it’s just a cat. Say it’s your cat named (Benji) Could the bottom one be said as (Cats name) はつくえのうえにいます。 if speaking to someone who knows the cat also ect or would that change the sentence completely? Hope you’re well. P.s hope that’s not a stupid question 😂😂😂 ありがとうございます
@MrSceneNine
@MrSceneNine 5 лет назад
At 7.56 I just tell myself that the 'what' is what we are interested in finding out the existence of, so it should be appended with 「います」or「あります」'What exists...' And as 「います」 has to be at the end, the ordering becomes pretty simply to work out. 「机の上に何がいますか。」
@YameDreKudasai
@YameDreKudasai 2 года назад
When asking what's on top of the desk, shouldn't you ask with ですか as the ending since in the real world, we won't actually know what's on the desk (by using ありますか/いますか) like we do in this lesson? That way when someone responds with います/あります, at that point we know, and can continue with whichever ending that is established?
@laggyninja202
@laggyninja202 6 лет назад
I am having fun, this is a great series and you’re a great teacher
@LaRay314
@LaRay314 2 года назад
I have a question. When I don't know what is on the desk. And I don't know if it is an Objekt or a living thing. Than I have to use です not あります or います right? And I don't use に in front of です right?
@lucastan6790
@lucastan6790 Год назад
Hi! I've a question, for slide at 8:40. Can we ask instead, "机の上に何ですか"? Instead of using いますか.
@ColorwayMusic
@ColorwayMusic 6 лет назад
Thanks so much for this lesson. Been taking a course at Smith College and your explanations really bring the concepts I’m learning to life. Much appreciated.
@obamascock2169
@obamascock2169 3 года назад
I'm wondering about the emphasis part. So if I were to flip neko and doko around, for example: doko ni neko ga imasuka, would that work? Instead of using wa with cat in the beginning? If I were to do it that way, I guess you would answer: tsukue no ue ni neko ga imasu. I don't even know if I am ordering it correct. I am a bit confused on question words with ni, some clarification would be helpful.
@uhno4799
@uhno4799 3 года назад
George is it right to say at 7:59 つくえのうえのはなにがですか。 Among what did u say?
@EzyoMusic
@EzyoMusic 4 года назад
4:39 私のAIワイフは家の中にいます。 My bet's on いる.
@Abc-qq9be
@Abc-qq9be 6 лет назад
your videos are a blessing! i have learned way too much that im scared haha joking, just happy! thank you : )
@notorioushsg1
@notorioushsg1 2 месяца назад
Hi George... you are looking great today.. .how about a free book????
@brocklesnarufcchamp1
@brocklesnarufcchamp1 7 лет назад
Is a zombie considered living or dead in that case would I use iimasu or arimasu
@glengogo
@glengogo 3 года назад
What do we use for plants?
@milkyidonothavealastname6168
@milkyidonothavealastname6168 Месяц назад
In one of the previous lessons Mr. Goerge said its arimasu.
@williammckee6165
@williammckee6165 3 года назад
if somebody asks me where the computer is I just point my finger and say over there
@kuronvega4085
@kuronvega4085 2 месяца назад
My dog ate my Japanese hw, please let me redo the assignment 🤣
@ShubhamGupta-ir2gn
@ShubhamGupta-ir2gn 4 года назад
I wanna leave a like but the Like-Dislike ratio is a beautiful 777/7 rn
@yami5536
@yami5536 8 лет назад
Is it right to say: "tsukue no ue ni wa, nan desu ka?" ?
@japanesefromzero
@japanesefromzero 8 лет назад
You don't need the NI. Tsukue no ue wa nan desu ka? Means "What is (that thing) on the top of the desk?"
@gannaayasrah403
@gannaayasrah403 5 лет назад
@@japanesefromzero can i use "ga" instead of "wa" ?
@noodletribunal9793
@noodletribunal9793 5 лет назад
@@gannaayasrah403 i think は sounds a lot better here because this a "new topic" kind of sentence. when you ask what something is, it's usually a new topic, so you can stick to は. (unless it's a question like dare ga imasu ka or something because ga doesn't go after question words of course)
@asuza5135
@asuza5135 6 лет назад
すみません。コンピュータですか? パソコンですか?
@bubblingangel2341
@bubblingangel2341 7 лет назад
go jyuu more videos to go! XD
@shinsekai7905
@shinsekai7905 4 года назад
8:50 why can't you saay neko wa doko desu ka
@kumoric
@kumoric 11 месяцев назад
can someone explain to me how the には particles work together? if there is a Japanese From Zero video on this, then please link it! ありがとうございます
@japanesefromzero
@japanesefromzero 11 месяцев назад
は after another particle is just giving it emphasis or it's being used in comparison of something else.
@adityarajsinghranawat3434
@adityarajsinghranawat3434 2 месяца назад
Thank you so much George san ❤
@williammckee6165
@williammckee6165 3 года назад
shitai shitai wo mite imasu
@thelifeyoulive410
@thelifeyoulive410 7 лет назад
Hello George san I have a question if we don't know what's on top of the desk if it's a living thing or not which one should we use? (imasu ka) or (arimasu ka)
@thelifeyoulive410
@thelifeyoulive410 7 лет назад
nvm XD lol
@arturjose2249
@arturjose2249 6 лет назад
I don't know much but in that case, though that kind of situation would be hard to find, I would just choose desu instead, since we can use it for everything. Maybe there are some scientist discussing whether or not a virus should be considered as an alive being and they use desu all the time. :v
@EricAndre615
@EricAndre615 6 лет назад
Quick question. Towards the end when asking what is on the desk there are two examples. using なにがいますか? for the cat and なにがありますか? for computer. Well, we're asking what's on the desk, which assumes we don't know. So we don't know if it should be いる or ある at that point. Otherwise, why would we be asking. My question is if you are asking a question like this, but don't know what the thing is (living or non-living) which do you use? Is either okay until you know? Is one preferred over the other? Is there a different better one? Should you just use です in that case? つくえのうえになんですか?
@languages170
@languages170 3 года назад
Another great vídeo, George! 😁
@-_-6556
@-_-6556 2 месяца назад
This is a random comment.
@sokka50
@sokka50 2 года назад
If I ask "What is on the table?" how do I know if I should use aru or iru if I don't know what's on the table?
@anonisnoone6125
@anonisnoone6125 Год назад
U can just use "desu ka?" instead.
@darrenfleming7901
@darrenfleming7901 3 года назад
Not really expecting a response here but if you don't know what is on the desk for example and therefore don't know if it's a living thing or an object, would you use ありますか or いますか or would you revert to ですか to avoid any confusion?
@stevenjacobs8797
@stevenjacobs8797 5 лет назад
What about those self-driving cars, います or あります?
@recycledplastic4895
@recycledplastic4895 7 лет назад
So I have a question about the order and how is translated. For 机の上に猫がいます would it be translated as "On top of the desk there is a cat." Or "There's a cat on top of the desk." I'm confused when you say
@larshoffmann1386
@larshoffmann1386 6 лет назад
10:20 In an example like this where you ask "what is on something something?" It is probably best to just use ですか。, right? If you don't explicitly know whether what you ask for is living or not, I mean.
@curseedits454
@curseedits454 2 месяца назад
I ain't gonna win though
@gafer8808
@gafer8808 Год назад
Thank you very much
@noodletribunal9793
@noodletribunal9793 5 лет назад
i keep doing this thing where you'll ask how to ask a question but ill just answer the question instead of thinking about how to ask it like a DU MAS
@treeriders
@treeriders 6 лет назад
If you don't know whether the thing on top of the desk is alive or not, would you use あります or います as standard?
@armandouriberamirez3459
@armandouriberamirez3459 7 лет назад
what if I change the particle? くえの上に猫は居ます then the cat goes back to be the most relevant even if the location comes first in the sentence?
@vikasrawat7019
@vikasrawat7019 5 лет назад
Can we say like " neko wa doko ga imasuka " or we need to ni as a particle there. I prefer ni as in for existence, but still asking it as curiosity. 😬
@kuronvega4085
@kuronvega4085 2 месяца назад
Hiiii
@wenliu4153
@wenliu4153 4 года назад
Are trees and plants used with aru or iru because some people consider plants as inanimate objects but plants do grow and change
@quentinl6256
@quentinl6256 4 года назад
could you also use つくえのうえになんですか
@osonhodeleon
@osonhodeleon 4 года назад
Great class.
@Mrmiksworld
@Mrmiksworld 4 года назад
What if you want to say something like: The book is in the bag under the desk.
@Sammy_82
@Sammy_82 4 года назад
How does one say Where is A computer?
@AS-ne5wu
@AS-ne5wu 4 года назад
If you mean someone's computer, then "konpyu-ta" expands to "Aのkonpyu-ta".
@Qrisys
@Qrisys 4 года назад
12:34 someone needs to make a compilation of all these examples lmao
@danhague9442
@danhague9442 8 лет назад
@7.20 Using imasu/arimasu in the question implies you already know the answer, or at least the fact that the object is living or not. But when asking 'what's on top of the desk?' it could be anything. This example is like asking 'what living thing is on top of the desk?'. George should also explain how to phrase the sentence when it's unclear if the object on top of the desk is living or not.
@さいとう-c6b
@さいとう-c6b 7 лет назад
lol watch video again he was explained it already.
@jadoaesra3011
@jadoaesra3011 4 года назад
Could you also say, "tskue no ue ni no nan desu ka"
@japanesefromzero
@japanesefromzero 4 года назад
Only if you make "the one on top of the desk" the topic by adding WA and removing the NI. The NI is only used with verbs in this case. This sentence is CORRECT but has a different meaning than "What is on the desk?" Tsukue no ue no wa nan desu ka. What is the one on the desk? The "NO" here is translated to the "one pronoun" in English here.
@lukef1131
@lukef1131 5 лет назад
Hey George this might sound like a stupid question but to say what is on top of the table why could you not say 'くるまのうえはなんですか。' I have seen all the videos but maybe I forgot a rule 😂 thanks for your help anyway.
@カペラマヌエル
@カペラマヌエル 5 лет назад
I believe you just asked "what is the top of the car?". But I'm just a beginner.
@Quofacts532
@Quofacts532 6 лет назад
good lession now ga and wa became easy
@OLGMC
@OLGMC 7 лет назад
What if I want to ask "what is on the desk?" But I have no idea yet if it would be a living thing or not. Should I use arimasu or imasu in my question?
@さいとう-c6b
@さいとう-c6b 7 лет назад
use です。watch video again he was explained it already.
@Melbester9
@Melbester9 8 лет назад
When it comes to the location questions, I know you said that saying Nani ga makes it sound unnatural but some of the sentences I was used to question words first like Doko or Nani ga desu ka. I was going to say Nani ga Tsukue (no)Ue (ni) arimasu ka. You said Tsukue no Ue ni Nani ga arimasu ka? I still have the SVO order stuck because there's certain Japanese sentences that have a question which uses Doko Nani and other question words first. If someone can explain this, l would really appreciate it.
@josephmealtfeld5032
@josephmealtfeld5032 8 лет назад
I guess you can say Nani ga Tsukue no ue ni arimasu ka as well as Tsukue no ue ni nani ga arimasuka. Japanese has no other rules about the word location than a modifier is located before a modfied word and V(predicate) is located at the end of the sentence.
@jbnewell1064
@jbnewell1064 5 лет назад
I tried to say that there are Pokémon outside (Pokémon wa Soto ni arumasu.) google translate said “ I have Pokémon on my side.” What am I doing wrong?
@egg7689
@egg7689 5 лет назад
Google translate is sometimes wrong
@notadrian5711
@notadrian5711 5 лет назад
The translation is inaccurate, yeah. Have you tried using "ga" instead of "wa"? But I think what you've said could also mean "I have a Pokemon outside".
@thepolymathuniverse9694
@thepolymathuniverse9694 5 лет назад
*あります (arimasu)*
@thepolymathuniverse9694
@thepolymathuniverse9694 5 лет назад
But I think it should be います (imasu), since Pokémon are "living creatures" (in the world of Pokémon).
@alextoma103
@alextoma103 7 лет назад
I'm not sure if you've answered this before but I'm just curious, would you use いる or ある when talking about Siri?
@lottieplaysnintendo
@lottieplaysnintendo 7 лет назад
Alex Toma aru since it’s not really a living thing I guess
@euricoferreira2084
@euricoferreira2084 5 лет назад
Zombieがある? Zombieがいる?
@aquilazyy1125
@aquilazyy1125 4 года назад
zombieはあなたのうしろにいます。
@dseto8888
@dseto8888 5 лет назад
as a french student part of this video relates to definite (the) and indefinite articles (a) ?
@Konuvis
@Konuvis 5 лет назад
en gros ouais. 'le chat est sur le bureau' vs 'sur le bureau il y a un chat'
@SamLyn
@SamLyn 4 года назад
What would this be: つくえのうえはなんですか。
@ellemin2144
@ellemin2144 4 года назад
what's on top of the desk?
@AS-ne5wu
@AS-ne5wu 4 года назад
You use は particle here, not に, so it's not treated like location, but the topic of the sentence. I am most sure that it means "What is the top of the desk?"
@ellemin2144
@ellemin2144 4 года назад
A. Shelyagin Damn, I forgot about that.
@christinefedrick4944
@christinefedrick4944 7 лет назад
We are learning this in class right now and I was having trouble grasping it because I can almost always follow what you're explaining, but I still don't understand for some reason - even with your breakdown. I can understand your statement of emphasis, and that you can say it multiple ways, but for some reason it's making it more confusing for me to know that. George, do you have any extra tips on learning location words and arimasu/imasu? I think what my issue might be is the sentences are getting longer and I'm having trouble with the inside order. I know it's generally a long version of A is B. Where A is the Subject and B is the verb, but... IDK. HELP! :(
@christinefedrick4944
@christinefedrick4944 7 лет назад
In my class we're using ga not ha (wa)
@christinefedrick4944
@christinefedrick4944 7 лет назад
Also, do you HAVE to answer back in the same order? I mean I know it's probably way easier, but say I've drilled something into my head more. Will it still be understood?
@RonaldSL-
@RonaldSL- 8 лет назад
What you said near the end was interesting. I started with "Konnichiwa, ronald desu" And now おはようございます、妹ちゃん。今日の天気予報は冷たいです。セーターを持って来ます下さいね!
@habeebweeb
@habeebweeb 8 лет назад
Amazing improvement but you've made some small mistakes. In relation to weather, you'd use 寒い not 冷たい 冷たい is used for objects that are cold to the touch. You almost got the request part but you forgot to change the 持ってくる to the て- form 持ってきて下さい. I wish you luck in your studies from a student to another :)
@RonaldSL-
@RonaldSL- 8 лет назад
Thank you!~
@NekoSamaIru
@NekoSamaIru 8 лет назад
How do I scream "I WAS RIGHT!!" or maybe "YES!! CORRECT!!" in Japanese? I wanna say that every time I get an answer right. (Is it weird?)
@learningkanji3930
@learningkanji3930 8 лет назад
"Atteru!(合ってる)" "Atteta!(合ってた)" "Yoshi, atteru!(よし、合ってる)" "Yoshi, atteta!" or just "Yoshi!"
@NekoSamaIru
@NekoSamaIru 8 лет назад
Thank you. I was worried it would be something hard to remember.
@Peachelliver
@Peachelliver 7 лет назад
So I can't tell: "neko wa doko desu ka?"
@lottieplaysnintendo
@lottieplaysnintendo 7 лет назад
KawaiiPettanko yes you can, it’s just an easier way to say it
@MarcusGPG
@MarcusGPG 8 лет назад
Is there a way to ask "whats on top of the desk?" if you have abolutely no idea about what it is? It could be a cat or a computer, you don't know. Should you just presume it's arimasu scince most often it will be dead objects or is there another way?
@さいとう-c6b
@さいとう-c6b 7 лет назад
lol watch video again he was explained it already.
@MarcusGPG
@MarcusGPG 7 лет назад
lol for comenting on a 3 month old comment.
@さいとう-c6b
@さいとう-c6b 7 лет назад
hhaha after 3 month it is still a question, just kidding nice reply じゃねー
@Anime101HxH
@Anime101HxH 7 лет назад
齊藤真明 Hi
@alexhenson
@alexhenson 7 лет назад
Is つくえのうえはなんですか correct?
@SatoshiBall
@SatoshiBall 7 лет назад
yup that's right.
@lottieplaysnintendo
@lottieplaysnintendo 7 лет назад
Wait.. aren’t you asking what the top of the desk is by asking this question? I wouldn’t use wa here personally
@yoimati
@yoimati 6 лет назад
「つくえのうえにねこはいます」 can be used if only someone wants to make some odd or poetic senses intentionally, most of the cases. e.g. book writers, poets
@japanesefromzero
@japanesefromzero 6 лет назад
yoimati - I am curious as to why you think this. This sentence works perfectly in a non poetic case. It also not odd. I can demonstrate if you need me to. But first I would like to know why you think it is odd or poetic only.
@yoimati
@yoimati 6 лет назад
I said not always, but most of the time. I feel that つくえのうえにねこがいます is just explainig a cat on a (the) desk plainly, while つくえのうえにねこはいます has some kind of nuance or tone. I'm not a linguistic proffesionalist, although my mother tongue is japanese, and I'm very curious about your demonstration for sure! I'm learning japanese grammar from you since you are a perfect teacher who can teach japanese in details, not in a difficult way. Then I should say my english is not good enough to explain all of my thoughts sometimes.
@japanesefromzero
@japanesefromzero 6 лет назад
yoimati - Yes I saw your RU-vid profile and realize that you are Japanese. :-) Imagine we are talking about locations of things, after naming a few things and their location, now we end with 机の上には猫がいます。It would sound like this: There is a dog in the bathroom, a bird in the tree, and ON THE DESK there is a cat. We use the は in this case since we are doing a comparison of what things are where. As you can see it isn’t poetic but just normal conversation. Situation makes this type of phrase very normal. :-)
@yoimati
@yoimati 6 лет назад
I get it. Sorry for wrting in Japanese the following sentences, since japanese is much easier for me to write. :) ですます調の文章は、仕事などかしこまった場でよく使う言い方で、会話ではあまり使うことがないので、わたしの場合・・ですが、それで詩か小説によくある言い回しだと感じてしまった可能性があります。 Thank you for the demonstration!
@japanesefromzero
@japanesefromzero 6 лет назад
yoimati - 仰る通り「ですます系」は通常の会話で使わないです。友達同士で使うと距離感を感じます。しかし、この本のこの時点ではまだ「ですます系」しか教えていないため「いる」などは使えないです。このシリーズの基本ルールの一つは教えていない文法や単語を使わないことです。言語の本でこのルールを守らないと生徒たちはイライラして、自信をなくして辞めてしまうことがあります。日本人の視点から見ると変かもしれないですが、最初から口語を教えると失礼な言い方を誤って使うことになる可能性が高いです。
@rcu007
@rcu007 8 лет назад
I still get confused about いる and ある. If you can still say that the cat is on top of the desk, without having to use them, then what is the purpose of those words? Is there a rule to use them?
@diogocosta4256
@diogocosta4256 8 лет назад
George just explained that. If you use "desu" the listener does not know whether you're talking about an object or a living thing, so the sentence will be more ambiguous. However, if you use "iru" the lister will know that you are explicitely refering to a living thing and if you use "aru" you can only be refering to an inanimate object.
@habeebweeb
@habeebweeb 8 лет назад
How would you say "the cat is on top of the desk" without いる?
@diogocosta4256
@diogocosta4256 8 лет назад
George also answered that. Dind't you guys watch de video? xD You could simply say: ねこ は つくえのうえ です
@habeebweeb
@habeebweeb 8 лет назад
Diogo Costa ah, yes If that were the case then your restating of George's explanation answers the OP's question exactly.
@brisdevil
@brisdevil 8 лет назад
You have just said that 'the cat is the top of the desk'.
@deonesanchez7776
@deonesanchez7776 8 лет назад
So I downloaded an app for kana and kanji and when I was scrolling through the kana, I saw these: ゐ (wi) ゑ (we) Do people still consider these as kana?
@japanesefromzero
@japanesefromzero 8 лет назад
They are rarely used as they are NOT official anymore. There is a beer called ヱビス which uses Katakana of ゑ but there no words in Japanese that use this as far as I am aware of. I don't think children even learn them.
@josephmealtfeld5032
@josephmealtfeld5032 8 лет назад
ゐ (wi) and ゑ (we) are parts of 旧仮名遣い. They are abolished by comittee of national language held in 1946.but there are a few people who still beleive 旧仮名遣い is the true Japanese writeing system.
@thepolymathuniverse9694
@thepolymathuniverse9694 5 лет назад
@@josephmealtfeld5032 *writing*
@seksiama
@seksiama 3 года назад
A robot cat could be both Imasu and arimasu
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@seksiama 2 месяца назад
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