Actually, that's EXACTLY what these 'ATF' goons are doing since their ONLY JURISDICTION is ONLY within the bounds of the "District of Columbia" unless there is an actual "Federal" crime they have a Warrant for that MAY Lawfully apply to you or your home.
"There is no situation so bad that it cannot be made worse by the presence of police."- William Norman Grigg Problem with law enFORCEment? Summon more law enFORCEment! Great idea!
Those ATF officers were "FISHING." I watch videos from attorneys who say "don't even answer the door when police come by, unless you called them." But if you do end up talking with them, you're correct. Say "no thank you" and end the conversation. If they leave a business card, have a lawyer contact them.
@@rockd2808 Police can use reasonable suspicion to stop you when you are in public (Terry stop.) But they cannot enter your home unless they have a signed search warrant (probable cause) OR your permission. If you refuse, they can use that to obtain a warrant, but that's still on them and they have to convince a judge. Reasonable suspicion is not sufficient to intrude on your private property. Especially not at the Federal level.
@@rockd2808 reasonable articulable suspicion. And it's still legal to kill them once your not committing any constitutional crimes (supreme law of the land). They're just the gangbangers in a costume. Kill, kill, kill they're just parasites on society with no real constitutional reason for existing. The militia shall execute the laws. Not some private taxpayer funded paramilitary force.
Good advice. In addition, people need to remind themselves that they purchased their firearms legally, and as such, there’s no reason for anyone to demand to see their property (at least, that is how I’d look at it).
another tip, if the ATF comes to your door and you tell them no and they persist...call your sheriff and let them know there is someone at your door threatening you. If the AFT hangs around and the sheriff shows up they might be having a conversation with someone they don't want to.
Stop the Sheriff Drama! The County Sheriff does not trump FEDERAL Law and FEDERAL AGENTS are not intimidated by your local Sheriff. Your sheriff wants to keep the peace and you happy so he gets re-elected.
@@_DB.COOPER sheriff's can arrest federal agents which are unconstitutional (i.e. not mentioned in the constitution) for violations of the constitution.
"Am I under arrest? No? Am I being detained? No? Do you have a warrant? No.. then have a nice day special agent" Close the door in their face or turn around and walk..
Unless a friend or relative calls or texts me that they're at the front door, I don't answer it. If I didn't send for a man in a uniform, or a man with a clipboard, I have no reason to answer in the first place...
“I love law enforcement. I think you should be respectful and polite” WOW! The ultimate disrespect is when these state agents show up at that man’s in the first place. Excellent advice about not having anything in your name.
I love law enforcement as well.. however… if they are knowingly coming to your home to take inventory… tell them you will not speak with anyone without a lawyer and tell them to leave… close the door (Even if it seems de respectful )
Ah these boot lickers... if you advocate or police and then tell everyone else that you should NEVER talk to them, then you are as a matter of fact an a-hole. if you care about something and its moral aka right, then you dont need to fear speaking truthfully or need someone else to re-present to you what's in your best interest. The issue is that police and any order follower in general are evil aka immoral and solely exist to protect the state and government, not the people of the town, state, county, city etc whom they work for. They do this by exorting the people within those imaginary boundaries. Align the truth with your actions in a moral way...just sayin
@@paulc9739 you shouldn't even open the door, just speak through it or if you must just crack it open wide enough for your voice to be heard with your foot or body anchoring the door in position so they can't just stick their foot in the door.
In many of the 13 original colonies, a 'warning' is not required to 'inflict'or or 'charge' someone with aggravated trespass - aggravated criminal tresspass can be the FIRST thing out of your legal box .... all based on (still in effect) common law from the time of the 'colonies'.
The only reason they’re there is because they don’t have enough to get a warrant. By you even just opening the door they could fabricate a lie saying they saw something in your residence which would give them access to your house without a warrant.
And if they don't have probable cause to believe you've committed a crime they can't get a warrant. Ask them specifically what their probable cause is.
Um, if he doesn't provide a government-issued ID with his RESIDENSE address on it, he can not legally purchase a firearm through an FFL. The ATF will not accept an ID without your residential address on it.
Dude love your channel…. Totally interested in how you have a driver’s license with no home address etc. I would definitely be interested in tips on leaving no trail. If you already have videos on that I apologize. Also love your stories 😎🇺🇸✌🏻
@@johnstack4316 I have a lawyer... It wasn't thousands of dollars.... It was a few hundred dollars but when undesirables come to the door...call the lawyer and hand the phone out thru a window... If you are legally required to answer..
@@georgecapra many lawyers would take payments instead of a lump sum, they don't cost thousands of dollars for that reason either, maybe a few hundred. The only time a lawyer is gonna cost thousands is if they're working a court case for you or maybe if they're a top teir law firm.
Jason you say have a good lawyer. There are millions of firearm owners that are barely making the monthly bills. Attorney fees are out of the question for many.
Love the part where you said that if you asked an ATF agent to show you his guns, he wouldn't. When the Pharisees asked Jesus trick questions, He would ask them questions back. Government officials are public servants, so treat them as servants, not as masters. Make them serve you, and answer to you!
If someone representing them as law enforcement shows up to my door and refuses to show me a warrant and also refuses to identify themselves, I'm in the hurt locker if they use their guns and then claim later that I was failing to cooperate with law enforcement. There are hundreds of exceptions to the "must have warrant" rule--the warrant is mostly to ensure that the "evidence" seized is admissible evidence. However, renters don't have the same privacy rights as homeowners--the apartment manager can authorize police to search rental properties without a warrant and that permission makes anything found or planted on the rental property "admissible." In all the instances where no warrant is required, police do not have to ask politely to carry out their activities. The major reason for search warrants is so that "evidence" is admissible. That's why SWATting is a problem--police responding to an active shooter event at your worksite, or a hostage situation reported to be at your home, don't need a warrant in order to resolve that immediate emergency situation. Many have died--sometimes police! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting And that assumes that they really ARE police. Even in Canada it happens--a mass shooter disguised his car as a police unit and may have worn a police uniform when he committed his crimes in the year 2020. Wearing police or military clothing while committing crimes is a common guerrilla warfare tactic. What if the fellows at the door in "AFT" raid jackets and "tacky-kool" police vests are the local extremist gang stealing weapons for future criminal activities? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nova_Scotia_attacks www.bing.com/videos/search?q=we+don%27t+need+no+stinking+badges&view=detail&mid=41620C36FFB243B658BA41620C36FFB243B658BA&FORM=VIRE I survived my own brush with undercover law enforcement three decades ago. I was a uniformed security guard working at a shopping center and I noticed a car with a pair of men conducting surveillance--I had just finished a decade in Army intelligence and had spent most of that decade in terrorist-ridden Europe. Since I was in the USA, I risked approaching and then asking the men if I could help them with something--they told me to go away, so I did. And then I called the police, reported exactly what I saw and did to the dispatcher. I am good at reporting--more than six police cars showed up within 90 seconds and surrounded the two men in their beat-up car. A few minutes later a laughing police sergeant informed me that I had just destroyed several weeks work in an anti-drug operation. The patrol supervisor was laughing because the undercover guys had committed several goofs in their operation and the final goof was trying to run off the security guard. Lucky me--I wasn't in trouble for noting and reporting suspicious behavior happening at a place I was responsible for. I got the impression that the two undercover detectives had some explaining to do. There's so much that can go wrong when someone bangs on the door at zero dark thirty and claims to be police. Jason, how about a video on how to behave during a SWATting incident? One where you recognize that they are really police responding to a 911 call?
Love you channel and happy to have you here in Utah. Could you do a video on the new ATF rule and your thoughts on what you think is the right way to address it?
While I believe that the UPS Store thing is good privacy protection in general, it's not a good idea for dealing with the government. I read in How To Be Invisible by J.J. Luna that they've figured out this trick and will demand your actual home address. He shares a story of a guy who thought he'd gotten away with this at the DMV until a club bouncer scanned his license and he saw his real street address pop up on the scanner screen. One thing that MIGHT work is a ghost address (buy/rent a property other than where you live and list that as your address), but you're likely looking at serious legal consequences if they ever figure out that you falsified information on government forms. Some better solutions for guns: 1. "Ghost guns," as mentioned in the video. 2. Buy from a private individual instead of a gun shop. 3. Buy guns mfd. before 1898 (considered "antiques" by gov. and can be bought or even mail ordered without an FFL.
The best advice would be to ignore them. Don't have to say anything. Just look at the window, wave, then continue your business. Engaging them leads to conversation, and you don't need to speak with them.
When my ex worked at IBM on some special projects, we became friends with a guy (he was kind of a mentor) from the CIA. He was last CIA guy I have ever trusted. You seem normal and likeable. Are there others like you? I have just assumed by this point, that they are ALL following dubious moral/legal pathways and that none of them should be trusted. And if there are good guys left there, why aren't they saving our country? (No pressure, just a question) BTW, thanks for the info.
You list a UPS store address on your ATF 4473???? The ATF 4473 form requires your physical address doesn't it? The ATF FAQ even says that the ID you present to buy a gun from an FFL needs to have your physical place of residence.
If the ATF decides to review a 3310 Form that a gun shop submitted because you bought multiple pistols, they'll go to the gun shop and get a copy of the 4473 you filled out. Then they'll go to the address you wrote down. If the ATF pulls up to the address you listed on the 4473 and it's the UPS store, the next thing they'll be doing is filling out a warrant for your arrest.
Ask them to state their business through the door without opening up. Greet them by going out an opposite door but don`t let them in especially without a warrant. Once you tell them to come in that`s an automatic search warrant.
to get a PO Box, you have to give them your street address, so, that is very misleading to say a po box is an easy stop-gap. Anyone with request/search capabilities (like law enforcement) will find your street address in a hot minute.
I recently dropped USCCA for Attorneys On Retainer (AOR). If the ATF knocked on my door, as you said, I would politely say no thank you. Next I'd call the 24/7 AOR phone number for legal advice. USCCA won't/can't give you legal advice over the phone.
How does the ATF have a list of serial numbers? We are told that these firearm purchase records stay with the dealer and are not compiled by big brother. Obviously, that was a lie. So, each purchase is being reported in detail to the ATF?
The ATF can go into the gun store and look up their records. The point of that restriction is they would have to go into all the gun stores to compile the list of all the people, so individuals would know something is going down if that happened.
My biggest question is this... The CIA by Constitutional law can NOT operate on American soil... So how is it that you helped anyone locally while a CIA agent?
Never a problem with the ATF, FBI JTTF I've had though. Someone AF guy in Egypt didn't like my email of opinion I sent someone I knew there. Long story short no violence was advocated, but coming from MI I don't have the views the black box tells you to have, and I still got a JTTF visit. Eagle Scout, American Legion Boy's State Participant, Diploma out of Ft Huachuca and an AAM they thanked me for my time and left me alone giving me their card as they left. The amusing part was first watching them try to space and make angles given how trashed my apartment was at the time. Second they saw my chest rig for the Yugo AK I had at the time. This lead to a bit of a debate where they told me it was an SKS. I explain no it was an AK, only to get told you can't own an AK as they are fully automatic. Not much of a Joint Terrorist Task Force agent if you don't know they make civilian legal semi auto AKs.
By law the UPS store must have a physical address in their system where you actually live before they issue you a box, so if the authorities go over to your box they can find out where you live. Having your home address some how hidden, when you purchase a gun, form 4473 must show your current physical address and the gun shop can verify this with your driver license and a second document that could be your car registration to match your DL address. If the gun shop fails to do this, their FFL could be cancelled. Either way, this might work for the fellow speaking here because he is ex CIA but it would be very difficult for the average American.
What is very disappointing is the local yokels buy into this and go on these fishing expeditions with the feds. My agency frequently said no to these requests for assists. Unless they were serving a warrant or making some kind of legit high risk contact. These simple knock and talk contacts, no matter what the nature, don't require local law enforcement and shame on these agencies that get involved in this. And you feds, ditch the swat team looking tactical gear for these contacts. Instead learn a few social engineering skills.
Nice info about addresses and stuff. My problem with that is I live in the PRNJ. The NJ "Liberation" forces will not let you sniff a permit for looking at guns if they do not have an address and two friends to find you. Whaddya do then? I know. MOVE!
If they require a street address then of course you must give that to them, but you also give them a mailing address, like a PO Box or a UPS mailbox. When your registration, insurance, and driver's license arrive by mail, it will have that mailing address on them and not your home address. My driver's license, insurance card, and registration all have my PO Box on them. So, if someone broke into my car or stole my license, they would only know my PO Box and not my residential address.
Yeah I know the ATF are not my friends. That said, if they show up to my door and they have a list of multiple guns that I bought with serial numbers, that in itself is a problem. Yes I could play the Lawyer game, that said, assuming I had the guns I probably would retrieve the unloaded guns and let them verify the numbers. Of course a lot would depend on their attitude, my gut feeling and what guns they wanted to look at. Anything that is NFA or suddenly being reclassified as a NFA item of course is a game changer. I have no pistol brace arms, NFA arms, 80 percent kits, oil cans or special triggers which IMHO shouldn’t be ATF issues in the 1st place. BTW, buy 2 or more guns within 7 days, you get flagged by ATF.
Good advice, keep saying lawyer, lawyer, I know I need a lawyer. Have the best lawyer in town on retainer. I have two, called one rang once, had to hang up because the other was calling me. The preferred attorney called back from one ring.. Wasn't even a emergency, just had a question...
When you buy a gun at least in Texas they ask you if is the right address in your driver license/ID otherwise is no sale, personally I can understand the nature of your job demands to take extra measures for your own safety but for civilians lie in the process buying a firearm is illegal so from NICS any agency or law enforcement can have access to the buyer address and personal information.
I don't understand how you are placing a UPS store's address on a 4473 form as your residence address, without perjuring yourself on the form. I'm not trying to be snide here. I just don't follow this strategy, unless you are saying that you intended to take this risk. Now if you have multiple lawful residence's and you are filling out the form with *one of your residence addresses, that makes more sense to me.
2nd Amendment is supreme against any gun laws. And the people is supreme against tyranny especially when they act in a concerted manner like that in the Battle of Saratoga.
LOL... you're far more polite than I am. If they show up on my property in that manner, they WILL be trespassed and they WILL be photographed along with their ID's. I will NOT be nice about it.
