Jason Lanier and Irene Rudnyk Shooting High Speed Sync Flash and Natural Light! Shootout Part 3! 

First 60 secs of the video... Now THIS is how you compare Natural Light to Flash! Great job you two!

With all the back and forth about artificial vs ambient, I think we can all agree on one thing...your model is truly amazing!

A professional mindset vs. an amateur mindset. Thanks Jason!

I watched both videos and read comments from both channels. It's obvious both Jason and Irene have dedicated fans. Both photographers have their preferences in location, gear, lighting and post processing. They both have opinions based on their own unique experience, and I think both shared those opinions and why they do what they do. Whatever a photographer or artist does in post is personal taste. They still have to know how to capture images that allow them to create the final product. I don't think either Jason or Irene came into this shoot with the intention to sway the other, or their viewers, to their point of view. They shot together to get a better understanding of each other and find what things they have in common. I learned a lot from both Jason and Irene by watching and listening. Thank you both for sharing your ideas with the viewers and each other.

Two highly talented, likable and well-followed photographers came together to have fun and make it fun for their followers and I think we all benefit from it: 1) from a learning perspective and 2) from an entertainment perspective. We waited a long time and they delivered a 3 or 4 part collaboration video. I thank them both so much for that. Seeing the two styles side by side is educational and interesting. Bashing one or the other achieves nothing but shows ingratitude and closed-mindedness and all but eliminates the possibility of future collaborations like this which is sad for all of us. I choose to learn what I can from both, am appreciative of the effort they both put in and that's all the comment I feel is warranted or polite to make from behind a keyboard or to their faces. Thank you Jason and Irene.

It's not about technology, it's about personal style! Love both photographers work!!

Great work Jason and Irene, what a great model as well.

What an amazing series of videos. Thank you Jason, Irene, Asha and all the assistants for putting this together for us. It is inspirational on so many levels. Although some people obviously feel the need to pick a "winner", personally, I appreciate both of your unique styles, techniques, and personalities. I think the winners are us, the viewers, who got a chance to see two gifted photographers work their magic.

just fantastic ... love Irene & love Jason..!!

Fans of both u guys. Great shoot!!

Absolutely stunning!!! Both Natural and HSS.

Very cool. Loved it! Irene, you're fantastic!

My vote goes for the photos filled in with flash. Much more life to them.

I may not agree with Irene most of the time, but Jason handled it well. Giving her the due respect for her style that she carved out for herself. Jason, I love your pics. I shoot HSS most of the time, as I have a contrasty style, HSS accentuates the natural colors, without having to photoshop much. Personally, I feel the AD600 has more contrast as compared to the Rotolight EOS, I prefer the AD600 in bright sunlight an AD200 indoors. Maybe they are different beasts, but the AD600 suits my style. As you say " find out what works for you and you get only one chance to get it right". 😊😊

NATURAL LIGHT team here ❤️

Great collaboration. Really enjoyed this series.

Such an amazing photographer mate, well done Jason.

I am sorry, but the Jason's pictures with the GM85mm are simply marvelous!

Really really good, i thank you all so much for doing these videos. Looking forward to more. Enjoy a great and wonderful day.

Love it..just awesome collab guys

My fav two photographers !

What I got out of this shoot out; is Do not limit your creativity just BC. Awesome work by both in their own right!!! I speak 4 languages and Irene did awesome. English is my third language...

Fab work you two , keep the great stuff coming .

I was really impressed that Jason was able to grab a Canon and set up the high speed sync flash with no issues whatsoever in the middle of a shoot. True skills as a photographer. 3:15

Loved watching these videos of you two. It was really fun to watch and it looks like you two had fun as well. :)

Hi Jason, Thanks a lot for your inspiring, informative and, I’d say, really eye-opening videos! I much appreciate your giving loads of valuable info for free. I’m studying posing and lighting as you suggest and now realize how crucial it is. You are a great photographer and person 🙏 Wish you all the very best 👍

Great video and collab. don't tell Irene but I could see what you meant with the HSS there is definitely a pop to it

Watched both of your videos, and I think it was a fine example of both skills. It seems a lot of people are being agitated by one style or another, but in the end I think it just boils down to who can do what and clients will just seek what style they are seeking in any projects to hire a particular photographer. Amazing work either way and naturally so, when they both have such magnetic and loyal following who admire their work!

#Jason Lainer. Awseome part 3, I love the shots with the AEO. I pre ordered the Neo 2 a few days ago, can't wait.

great Job Guys I love the comradery and the professionalism with you guys. I learnt a lot here. thanks much for such a wonderful vlog.

Jason. Your work is awesome

what a fun video, love both of you :)

Telescoping painter's pole with a Kacey pole adapter...one of my favorite pieces of lighting kit. Thank for another great video, Jason.

Great collaboration!! :-)

I watched this video 2 years ago and it was the video that got me started into learning how to use off-camera flash. I used to be an all natural light photographer and I was content with that. But after seeing this video and hearing Irene saying that she can do the same thing in post. I thought yeah that’s not hard to do just do it in post to make it look like you flash. But it does take a lot of work in the editing process. And it took a lot of time and after seeing other videos saying off-camera flash makes everything so much easier and then I saw your video here I decided it’s time to teach myself off-camera flash and high-speed sync. And after learning I have never look back on to natural light Photography unless I’m doing weddings. Everything else I have a couple Godox ad600’s and ad200’s that can handle any job. My editing process has tripled in speed of finishing it and my business has quadrupled since I learned how to use off-camera flash. And I live in a small town and I am the only one that uses off-camera flash for their outdoor portraits. Everybody else only uses them in their studios. They don’t feel like dragging light stands and strobes out. That’s fine with me. Don’t get me wrong I don’t think there’s nothing wrong with natural light but for me lighting up the photos making them so vibrant is what my clients love about my work. It don’t look like everyone else’s. Great video

I liked both Jason’s and Irene’s shots. But I liked Jason’s attitude a bit better because he was willing to try a bunch of things, even if he wasn’t that confident on natural light he still did it and showed us comparisons. In the other hand I wish Irene had been willing to try a bit more of flash in every location.

No matter if you use natural light, or flash, the same basic element is needed light...Let there be light. I understand both sides.

the Aeos seems to be able to produce a very natural looking light source. it always surprises me when i see it lit that way

Superb series with two amazing photographers .. while I love all the shots .. I think I enjoyed more just listening to you both talk through your thought processing as you setup for and captured your shots .. it really helped me to see how I should be thinking of visualizing the image the before trying to create it .. that way I know what to tell the camera to do (assuming I know enough about my camera to start with)

very good love the banter between the two of you [ queen of soft ] new name for Irene great show thanks to you both a very fine model shots were so lovely

Saw all the videos on both of your sites. Irene, you're a class act; I understood exactly what you meant. Jason, you're a decent guy too; really enjoyed the interview you did of Irene. I've seen a couple of your vids about the business end of photography, and couldn't agree more. The banter you both shared was interesting and enjoyable. I spent more than 25 years in pro photography (more than 2K weddings). Along the way, met (and trained) a lot of photographers . The type of friendly banter on display between the two of you was very typical of what I experienced among my colleagues. This type of banter was always fun, friendly, and challenged everyone's reasons why they use their method. Working professionals don't drop their style developed over years at the drop of a hat... just because another colleague has a different approach -- for a different audience. Such banter typically confirms pros are comfortable in their own styles with what they do. That said, there are always things we learn by watching and challenging each other; these little tidbits we learn refine what we do, which is a different concept entirely than a wholesale abandonment of one approach vs. another. Those making disparaging comments against either of you (on either channel) are providing we viewers (and readers) with an expose of abject ignorance. So, thank you both for comparing and contrasting your approach, and presenting us with such great and informative entertainment. Much appreciated, and I do hope you're both able to do more collabs with other photographers. It was fun to watch.

Irene is great with natural light, she have the eye for it.

4:49 i think (Synthetic) is the word irene is looking for... its true that for some its easier to amplify natural light in post than to get the perfect flash temperature/distance - Later on.. jason finally nailed it when he decided to tilt the flash upwards so its hitting only the eye area and finally using his 85mm 1.4 @ 9:49 - ambient light amplified through post on the subject looks best because the colors and shadows always matches what our brains are expecting to see However . ramping up the shadows in post risks more noise and also more time spent editing on each shot - if only one can truly master to emulate ambient light through artificial lighting(Flashes/strobe etc.) such that the eyes cant tell its even artificially lit. it would change photography/cinematography forever. - so far theres only few photographers that are close in doing that... and lanier is one of them - thats why its exciting to watch great talents like lanier.. these legends push the boundaries of artificial lighting and inspire flash manufacturers to further develop the current lighting technology.

Great video Jason and irene very informative and for reason beyond my understanding the video is very Controversial these kind of discussion doesn't exist in my community .... but overall very good video keep up the good work and good luck

I think people who posted hate comments against Jason Lanier on Irene's video really had no idea it is really weird to have the model underexposed. HSS in this scenario is necessary (unless a ND was used) Natural light simply isn't flexible enough.

I think Irene had some VERY good photos and I can see why she has a following and think she does a very nice job. To me however, even when Jason was shooting Natural Light only his photos had more depth and "pop" to them. That's a style I prefer. Irene goes for more of a dreamy fairy tale style of photo which others may prefer.

Both good photographers but what I like about Jason is he doesn’t limit his abilities just because.. he can get a great shot under any situation and he likes the challenge of that oppose to telling someone that shot can’t be done it’s bad light.. he will get it done or at least try to with his knowledge to manipulate light..

thanks for the nice video, I think that Irene's photos are better than Jason's photos I love Irene's work. However, Jason is also a master photographer

I like Irene and her natural light portraits, she always has great interaction with models, nice to watch!... However in this particular session I would buy photos with HSS shot by Jason... Flash really brings out something more, again for this session. All light photographer like Jason must have mastered natural light to be able to work with flash to do more magics. Flash light isn't easy (somehow I also prefer Jason's natural light shots in this session). Good natural light is not always available and favorable for background choices

These videos were great - Natural light vs artificial or American vs. Canadian!! ha ha :)

4:25 It's easier for people who don't know how to do it in post. OMG

They are both great photographers, just with different approaches. Personally, I agree with Jason's opinion about all the benefits of using artificial light. While Irene's created photos many (including me) can only dream of, manipulating the lighting in post can be time consuming yet not always perfect, let alone the amount of noise it may introduce (which is critical if you shoot a lot of paid jobs) However Irene's style of editing just seems more pleasant to my eyes, as Jason's is more dramatic and contrasty, but that's just personal taste. Overall, great series! We cheap-ass RU-vid learner need more of this!!!

I dunno, Jason...She's pretty thick-headed. You are fantastic. Who did the model prefer? Lighting is essential!!!

This was a very fun and informative collaboration, and I find the notion of choosing a "winner" or better photographer distasteful and misguided. And Asha looks stunning in every shot, so really the viewers are the winners here. Thanks for doing this.

I very much enjoy and learn from BOTH of these accomplished photographers/artists. What I DO believe should happen, so that it does not give the air of "competition" that some may perceive it as being, (because as harmless as it may be intended, the wording, "shoot out", can bring about an image of the old west where 2 foes are ready to see who draws first) would be, as a suggestion only, to just simply rename these invites. Perhaps call them, Day Shoots. "Jason and ?? Day Shoot" session. This way no one gets an image in their head of the two photographers "competing" with each other; but, rather, introducing themselves, their STYLES and work they have done, like to do and what they use and don't use to get those shots (gear, location, light direction, etc.). Just my opinion. But, regardless, I thank, you, thank you, thank you, for offering this to us, Jason. It is truly awesome having this format to see how seasoned photographers work and what works for them. Take care, Huie

What were camera and flash settings in HSS?

OK Jason I get it. Lighting is very important hahaha

Personally I find the HSS flash photographs are fantastic

Great video, thanks. Also a lot of fun I really enjoyed watching you guys. If the model was a customer what would she prefer? I really liked them with HSS flash.

If Jason brought the Neo she could adjust the temp so the light will look more natural and match the natural light.

Anyone noticed whenever Irene presses the shutter, the camera dips down quite a bit.

Hey Jason, I'm sure that you're aware that the Sony a7riii is out for pre-order. Would you be able to do a comparison shoot with it and your current a9? Thank you

I shoot hss flash. But i love irene natural light style. Stylish and her style is the in thing now.

I loved the dress. As always I enjoy Irene's interpretation as she always manages to get that feminine dreamy look. Jason's work is equally good it is just a different interpretation. I still would like to know where to buy that dress.

Okay, I will admit it Jason. You didn't get killed like I thought. I love the images Irene creates (prefer her style) but her arguments about post - processing don't make much sense. Both of you did a great job, but I did prefer Jason's photos SOOC

Irene seemed to be surprised at the results of high speed sync flash like she's never done it before. I don't know her background and I'm sure she does amazing work (you don't need to know everything about lighting to be an amazing photographer) but it does rise some questions about her all around ability. Sorry for the backhanded comment but she seemed pretty cocky about not shooting for clients which made me asume she just knows it all and has a preference. I don't always watch the full videos so I'm sure I missed a few things and I'm now a d*** for calling it out. By no means do I think I'm better, it was just an observation.

"Jason's videos are very misleading and pretty much put me intentionally in a bad light, from calling Natural light ONLY photographer to taking things out of context. He clearly had an agenda in his mind," Having watched all the video's now i fail to see where he put you in a bad light, all came across as a genuine fun shoot. I love shooting in natural light when available so appreciated both sets with the HSS pictures just having that extra pop i preferred those but the natural light pictures were awesome as well.

little pop in front better than spending time in post. Nice images from both

I feel like Irene saying im going to do this in post is just not wanting to cop out to the ABSOLUTE FACT that having a hss monolight will help your natural light photography in an awesome way.....fuck waiting til post to do some shit you can do in camera.

I understand 100% what Irene is saying about natural light

Which lens use

Irene should carry some Benadryl with her in her photo bag,, just in case. :-)

Jason! Your like a mafia photographer! No one is safe whenever you are armed with your camera. Ready to just shoot! Heck you even hold the camera one handed. Lol. anyway, great photos!

I have heard about natural light vs strobe so many times. I think people fail to understand one thing, a strobe user can be a natural light shooter as well, but not the other way round, because wheres the strobe/flash when u need it? How about a shoot at the beach where the backlight is so strong it kills the image all together? An image is not a calculated judgement, like mathematics. When one sees an image, they form a judgement at the back of their mind whether the pic is nice, or not. The use of light helps the human eye to focus on the subject better, our eyes tend to focus on bright things than dark, that is why sometimes vignette works so well on portraits. At the end of the day, hard work pays off, and it isn't easy to lug around a strobe with its modifiers and stands. Natural lighting simply limit one's composition, it requires light to hit the subject at certain angles and sometimes that makes for bad composition or a missed composition due to natural light direction.

Hey Jason Lanier, who's the assistant young lady holding the Neo twds the end?.

She produces some very nice images but she kinda say's her shots are more natural as long as she can PS them. What would she do without PS? I prefer Jason's shot's, I love catch light, love the way flash makes the image pop. I also prefer get as much done in the camera as you can.

Flash is awesome but sometimes, it looks too artificial for me. I would rather slightly photoshop details on to the photo to improve it, if needed. Still can't deny that flash is essential for all photographers to make sure you don't miss your chance to get it right.

Great video. But I would rather be out shooting more than spending all of that time doing post work when I can capture it when I shoot. I guys when you don't have clients you can spend that much time.

I slightly prefer natural light, but in post the HSS flash could be softened a bit more and be really great as well. With this model in this situation, HSS was just a tad too exposed for my taste. The natural light created a more seamless shot--better merged with the environment. I guess it depends how much you want the model to 'pop'.

Whether ambient or flash, the important thing is just to get the job done. Instead of just using only one style. Why not both for varying situations.

4:45 Someone call the burn unit.

Dreamy look... see Rebbeca Saray work

Why work on images in post such as adjusting exposure when you should be doing it in camera!?

Just think Jason's your problems with lighting wouldn't be a problem if you used rotolight 2

>it just to me looks more .. like produced >coming from someone who really photoshops their images

Someone give Jason a hand with that light... Theres a ton of people just standing there....

Hmm, the same shots he posted here looked great here but a bit odd on her video, like the bushes at the top in some shots looked odd but here are fine. Maybe some issues with compression or something.

Nice 1. Jason your crew member @ 12:26 and other clips she was holding the strobe needs to be in front of the camera :-)

The lady won't let you speak.

Hey Jason that assistant in the Jeans is Noice! She be nicer than your Sony gear, love her smile! Bring her along when you come do your shootout with me

Cameras have a hard time capturing the real natural world as our eyes see it. Our eyes have a dynamic range of approx 20 stops. Camera have a dynamic range of approx 10 to 14 depending on the camera. So there are times when adding a little fill will make it look more natural. Like your eyes are currently seeing it. I totally get the natural light look but what some natural light photographers wind up doing sometimes not all is adding the fill in PS which is very time consuming if you have hundreds of pictures to edit. If you get the shot as close as possible to perfect then the easier your editing will be.

The comments under Irene's video are hilarious!

"it's easier doing it in post"?

So I edit in post to make the shots look more natural, sounds like an oxymoron statement to me🤔. Good work all around btw.

The Canon kicks ass,the images speak for themselves . . .I wish she had used the Canon 70 -200 mm because the Sony's deeply flawed camera design can't do justice to any lens

No Rotolight ?

Flash looks better especially with the full body

A good contrast of opinions and methods in this video. Though Irene wants natural looking scenery and fairtale look from the model via heavy editing in PS. Jason shows how to use HSS and how easy it is apply. I like both the natural and HSS with a bias to HSS. My opinion is try to get as much right in camera so there is minimal work to do in post. To address Irene's concern of natural scenario and not make artificial. Perhaps a honeycomb on the softbox for light just to fall on the model ! Of course Irene is limiting her shooting time to a few hours of the day as she has no client time table or deadlines as she does not have clients ! Jason has clients so he has to get the best look from what weather card he is dealt on the day. The model was very good and has a very natural flow about her. Though the girl in the denim shorts is lovely ,... ha

me: sees 0:17 also me: (dials 9-1-1)

You can do almost anything in post...but why when you can get it in camera? High end cameras with their extreme dynamic range (many over 15 stops) can increase light in the photo, but it's not the same type of separation you get when applying flash directly on your subject. I find most photographers who resist flash do so because they don't know how to use it to their advantage. I get that feeling from Irene.