In this episode of #JaysChat, my guest host, Sutan AKA Raja, and I spill all the tea on ANTM Cycle 9. What were some of your favorite moments? New LIVE episodes of Jay’s Chat every Friday at 12p ET/9a PT, come join the fun!
Remembering what I can from this season: *Saleisha’s bob weave was NOT cute. I hated that style was chosen for her. *Heather WAS bullied. Yes she was, and the other girls ages have/had nothing to do with it. They saw a quiet, easy target and they tried it. But that girl had some of the best pictures and I was rooting for her to win.
I agree But I think the worst bully was Kimberley in my view even after she was eliminated in her interview when asked about heather she was like she is nice girl but I dont think she will ever make it as a model as in. The house we had to remind heather to wake have a shower and take her meds to be sounds a bit like bull crap I doubt heather needed reminding to take her shower or her own medication Kimberley came across as an ablest Bianca was a cow but at least she never made out heather wouldn't be a model
As someone with a learning disability, I was really bothered by Bianca's bullying toward Heather and it was bullying. Sure it's a competition and you don't have to be best friends with everyone there, but Bianca was going after an easy target in my opinion and it reminded me a lot of what I dealt with in school.
I agree with every word of what you said and more. Heather couldn't win with those bitches. When she finally did stand up for herself they just continued to make fun of her.
Truth be told, you should've had Nigel on here by now, he was at the judge's table the whole time. He could've really spilled some tea, the questions ppl really want answered.
I actually really enjoy these little chats. I don’t even care that they don’t focus on the season for every word that comes from their mouths. I could listen to these two talk for hours. It’s fun and low key.
As an Aspie mom, Heather was amazing to me. My son has Aspergers and ADHD, and he has made great strides. However, for Heather, this competition was moving way too fast. The remembering from script is too difficult without proper training.
I'm a social worker at a school and work with a wide variety of kids on the spectrum, have downs or a mental illness . So with the kids who are on the spectrum they're a wide variety like are pretty deep on the spectrum and have little to no social skills, some don't speak, some only only say a handful of words, some sign but others can communicate and talk like a typical kid. Some of the kids who don't speak will have full on melt downs when they didn't understand something or something didn't go according to plan or whatever. But for the most part the kids with aspergers are pretty normal they have there little quarks majority of the ones I've worked with are in normal classes and not the special ed classes but I see them like once a week and counsel them but in a lot of cases of unless you're in this job, or if they tell you they have aspergers otherwize people just think they're a little weird or have some little quarks.
Every episode, instead of actually discussing the cycle at hand Jay just goes on and on about how next week's episode will be filled with so much tea... then the next week comes along and he doesn't talk about the cycle at all and then promotes the next one with so much hype once again... I'm over it.
Take a shot every time Jay says "Oh look Jenah is in the chat!" or mentions "we have soooo many questions about this"... THEN ANSWER THEM! We'd all be blackout drunk.
The same here is why i got bored and stop watching they are waisting their times if they know they cant bring the real tea cause no one dnt care about tht other stuff.. i mean spill the tea then talk shit last
I agree. Come ON jay !! Stop trying please everyone especially your former boss bitch who mistreated all these girls as well as mistreated you! Spill the REAL HOT TEA
I feel like Jay and Sutan were so dismissive of Bianca's attitude, and negativity towards Heather. I believe in part because she was in th chat and Heather wasn't. Sure some girls aren't nice "in the real world " and Bianca was young, but as Latrice says "you did what you did", and Bianca was "that girl". She didn't have to be one of the girls that tried to tear other people down, she chose to be "that girl".
They even said that Tyra said if she knew about the bullying Heather had she would of kicked Bianca out. That right there sums it up, and I don't really like Tyra Banks and I'm agreeing with her.
Sorry. It's me again. Last comment, I promise. _ When he apologized for calling the show "stupid" (timestamp 54:53), I can totally tell that he is still under Tyra's wing, spell, legal contract, or whatever. Or he is aware his lives are being monitored by someone with power over him (yeah, I sound kinda crazy, but why would he apologize? And to whom? _ Jay is still biased, he just wants to plug his book (which is OK), but he misled us into thinking that he would REALLY dish actual tea in his lives. _ Good luck, Mr. Jay! And to those who keep on watching, have a nice day :)
I almost feel like Sutan's defense of Bianca is a defense of himself as Raja. He was Bianca on Drag Race Season 3 while Shangela and Stacy were both (ironically) Heather. Heather was bullied.
Tyra's toxicity is being exposed more and more these days. I admit, back then I fell for Tyra's whole "I'm a role model for girls everywhere" song and dance but as I got older, I started realizing how fake it all was.
The point is hes trolling Tyra. Basically indirectly taking jabs at her by showing that she cared more about promoting her own career versus developing a top model.
Mr. Jay seems like such a positive and happy person. The more I watch these, the more I fall in love with his personality. It sucks we didn't get to see more of him during the show. HE needs a talk show!
Heather was done wrong. Heather had some of the BEST pictures of the whole damn season. I mean, that cover girl photo was absolutely amazing. Even the pic in the Kimono was the best of that week and she was eliminated. Jenah too. I mean, Jenah was pretty damn good. Also, Lisa was amazing and Enony, had she stayed, would have damn won!
"It´s not a mess, it´s editorial" Love you, Sutan. I will so use that. That anti gay port was probably in the Bahamas, they are the worse in the Carribbean if you ask me.
@@ronniethornton7350 People can bully those they love. It happens all the time. Edit: Oh, I see it's you again. You can still love Bianca and admit she was harsh with Heather. You can also recognize Saleisha's hair was odd. Even Saleisha hated it.
The amount of hipocrisy is crazy lol you can tell they arent spilling the tea. Like you could tell they were kissing Bianca and Jenah's asses just cause they were watching this. So annoying. Obviously Tyra made Saleisha win and it was pretty obvious that they played the "no bubbly personality" card to Jenah as an excuse to send her home.
@@brycel4692 it aint a theory lol its the true. Its all based on the editing so they made the winner look like she was actually "good" when there were much better contestants. This happened a lot during this cycle cause Saleisha was Tyra´s friend and during cycle 10 cause they wanted their first plus size winner even though Whitney was one of the weakest contestants.
Some we might not get into today....mr.jay I appreciate you doing this but the point is so you in fact spill TEA, not say shit like we wont get into it today.
@@gregap8282 lemme tell you something, I never even try to decipher the usernames of those who asked the questions 😂 So his shutouts don't serve their purpose.
@Betty Tran Attention seekers then? But why do we have to suffer? "So g 2 g y h x a ac s _ h e a i 8 8, i can't with this names, is asking..." And this is with every single question 😔
I'm sorry but it's so obvious that Jay's trying to cover up that he indeed was not on the final panel because he didn't want Saleisha to win. Cycle 9 was rigged, plain and simple.
All of them were "rigged" sweetheart. It wasn't an actual competition show, it wasn't even a reality show...it was all staged for the commercial profit of the investors. Come on....don't fall for the oakie doak!
@@federicoluccichiarissi6289 I watched it live on Instagram and nothing seems to have been edited out except the live comments. Jenah, Bianca, and eventually Saleisha all commented during the live. Bianca said that she didn't bully Heather. Jenah commented confirming Bianca's statement and even said that Bianca and Heather were friends. Jenah defended Saleisha's win, saying that it wasn't rigged and that she deserved it. Other than that I don't remember much worth noting.
@@UselessAccountSquare Theie cd's were removed in China, The Production shut down , Victoria threatened the judges, China was a pain, Ebony has family issues. A lot was told
Just becasue Heather has a disability DOES NOT MEAN SHE SHOULD NOT BE IN THE COMPETITION. SHE IS NORMAL JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!!!! I liked having someone with a disability on the show because I have a disability and it made me feel like I could do this too and feel pretty and comfortable with myself!!!
Spilling the tea doesn't mean telling y'all what you want to hear lol. I know a lot of y'all on the "Scandaleisha" bandwagon want some of your feelings about her affirmed, but as Jay said, this was a very strong season in general (one of THE strongest imo), so I saw the competition as close and Saleisha as a deserving winner. She's also much more successful today than people want to acknowledge. In fact, she and her Days in Our Lives co-star just had the first black wedding in the history of the show. Chantal is also out here getting that work. I'm glad Jay acknowledged how unfairly Jenah was treated by the camera crew, because that was messed up. The "Bianca didn't bully Heather" thing is probably the one thing I didn't love about this chat, but aside from that, I see no lies.
I already saw this 4 days ago on another channel. It was recommended and I was halfway through before I realized it wasn't this channel, so I finished it, but thanks for the upload though.
I kinda wish this would be edited before it was uploaded to facebook. Meaning: when they talk about a girl or a specific shoot we could get an image somewhere on the side? Because I keep pausing and need to google the images/people because I obviously do not remember everything.
Jay was commenting some shady stuff about Miss J that suggests a bit of bitterness. I have a feeling Tyra has iced Jay out and asked Miss J to not engage with him and the recaps or else she will ice him out too.
Aqua Dino One example - On May 21st, Miss J made a post on Instagram basically saying that he wouldn’t be doing Jays Chat anymore because “JayWalking duties call”. A week ago, Mr. Jay made a post promoting this particular Jays Chat episode. Someone commented asking “What happened to Miss J?” Another user replied basically saying that Miss J had runway work to do and mentioned they saw his Instagram post regarding it. Mr. Jay replied “🤔 during quarantine in an industry that’s shut down. Well ok then 🤷🏼”. Someone replied saying it was a shady comment. Anyway that’s all I’ve noticed personally. Despite all this I hope they remain friends. They’re still following each other on Instagram.
@@dumbb6178 i only watched that season like once and a half. I remembered when trya had ebony's picture in her hands but she wanted to go home and tyra had this stank look on her face when she asked ambreal if she wanted to stay. When they did the Enrique Iglesias music video, you would have thought ambreal was a video hoe twerking in video they way tyra was upset with her.
Bianca was mean to everyone, still loved her though. Love heather too. Also y'all are making assumptions about the "bullying", but Heather and Jenah have said that Bianca and Heather were close. The way they edited was to make it look like heather was bullied, even though they were just picking at her every once in a while.
This could've been done with random people. Jay and Sutan are meant to tell and dish on what US, THE VIEWERS didn't get a chance to see. This episode was more of a recap of some sort, rather than a tea-spilling session. Anyway, let's see if the next episode is better, because this one... Girl... They owe me 75 minutes of my life 😥
Saleisha won fair and square. I think she was just boring compared to Jenah and Chantal, who had a lot more complexity to them and were more physically striking as a model. But I don’t think she was a bad model and I think the hate she gets is totally unwarranted.
Ariet I agree! People do not want to give her any credit or merit to her win and base it solely off her knowing Tyra prior. But that’s ignoring her improvement, which is similar to Chantal’s progression in the competition. I think the top 3 were the strongest models of that cycle so any of them were well deserving of the W.
i'm really really disappointed in the way they handled the bullying. I follow Bianca on insta and I was really happy to see she had changed and was putting more positive energy into the world, but if she can't admit she was a bully then she hasn't changed. Heather was bullied, the things she went through made me incredibly uncomfortable because I had been through similar situations. You should never ask the bully if they were the bully. Always ask the victim.
That’s crazy algorithm. I literally am currently rewatching season 3 of Ru Paul’s Drag Race. I look at my phone, I’m like IS THIS RAJA?!? CUZ THAT SCIFI LOOK WAS OUT OF THIS WORLD 🚀🚨
This cycle is one of my favorite cycles, though I felt extremely strongly about the winner at the time. But now I'm just glad almost all the girls I liked from this cycle got great work.
These lives are starting to become boring. There is no tea being spilled like we all want. Plus they get off topic too much. Just answer the questions. Its also way too much talking over each other(Jay lol). This chat was very hard to watch/get in to.
ppl mad that sls won not bc she has a relationship with tyra, but bc out of all the strong girls (the strongest cycle in my opinion) tyra picked the weakest. dont give me that crap about her walks and confidence blah blah blah
i liked Saleisha but i didn't like that she was already a model and she was a close friend of Tyra and its sad to believed that the girls wasted there time to never win anyway because they were going to let Saleisha win anyway
I hear yall about Saliesha but at the same time I heard that in order to go on ANTM u had to have not been on tv before and Saliesha was in 2 commercials before..in addition to Tyras camp
I just watched Cycle 9, and the edit was almost entirely about Heather and Lisa, but especially Heather, being bullied, and the others either bullying her, or not defending her, and how it "got" worse the better Heather did. After she left, I found the edit hadn't left me anyone to root for which seemed like an odd mistake.
i hate whenever the girls' ages are brought up in discussions on their behavior as if they were middle schoolers. 18-19 isn't that young of an age where they aren't capable of controlling their behavior and actions towards others. heather was bullied and how young the girls were has nothing to do with that, they just had that mean girl mentality and were mean to heather because she was different. i never bullied anyone when i was that age because i knew it was wrong, it's not hard to not be mean to people.
Saleisha was my favorite, I was so happy she won. If you’re a REAL top model fan, you’d know it takes more than taking wonderful photos to win. Actually, if you notice, the girl w/ the best portfolio never wins
I'm excited about Cycle 18: British Invasion. Annaliese talked about the music video challenge and how the British girls were given WAAAY less time to the Americans... Question: Is it challenging to remain fair? Or is fairness something ANTM considers for the competition?
Don’t care what they Saleisha was the worst!!!! Every time the judges liked her pics I was so confused (and most times I agree when the judges like a pic)
Do the girls get to keep their portfolios after they're eliminated? Or do they have to purchase them? Do the girls get paid for being on the show? If so during or after? And if not, if their communication with the outside world was limited how did they get $$ to buy their personal food. Were they told ahead of filming an aprox amt of spending $$ they would need.
Hi! Hope this helps: 1. Portfolios are given to them after the show has aired. 2. They don't get paid to be on the show but they are given a sort of allowance for their needs. The girls have a runner that does the buying for them. These have been mentioned in previous Jays Chats BTW :)
Saleisha was such a nice gal, they really ruined her modeling career with the mushroom cut and that' why she had to become an actress but she proved the talent once again there
Hazard if you watch Cycle 7, you can see Sutan rooting for Anchal! I think Anchal was caught up in the dramas and he told her to suck it up or something along those.
His name is sutan his a drag artist that goes by the name Raja He was the make up artist form cycle 4-12 He thought cycle 7 girls how to do sexy with dita von teese and he also dressed as Tyra once in cycle 6
TEAM SALEISHA! Also sis is killing it on Days of Our Lives, and Chantal is doing her thing as well. Strong cycle, strong winner, everyone should let the past go and move on