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Jay-Z Vs Cam’Ron: The Battle of Roc-A-Fella 

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Competing against one another and showing people who’s the best has always been apart of hip-hop history since it’s early stages. Back then it was all about who could rock the party the best and who had the best DJ. Then it transitioned to the emcee, master of ceremony, and who could rock the mic the best which caused people to battle each other and see who would come out on top. From legendary battles such as Busy Bee and Kool Moe Dee to KRS ONE and MC Shan on wax to Biggie and Pac to Nas and Jay Z. Rap seems like it’s one of if not the only genre of music where wanting to be the best is engrained in the culture itself. There has been many beefs and battles in hip-hop history but one such battle I wanted to focus on was Jay-Z versus Cam’ron.
Link to Cam'Ron video: • Video
Link to articles:
www.mtv.com/news/2494284/jay-z...
ambrosiaforheads.com/2019/11/...
djbooth.net/features/2016-06-...
www.revolt.tv/2017/2/8/208183...
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• Diplomats - Your Way [...
• The Diplomats - If Onl...
• Juelz Santana - The 2n...
• The Untouchables - Rel...
• The Diplomats - If Onl...
• JR Writer - A Differen...
• THE HEATMAKERZ - This ...
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• The Diplomats - Rap ci...
• Cam'ron Club Hot Spot ...
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• Cam'ron Speaks on Jay ...
• Camron and Jay-Z Awkwa...
• 1999 - Jay-Z stabs a guy
• Jim Jones - This Is Ji...
• Bronx River Throw Down...
• Video Explosion: DMX ...
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@zacksayjack1345
@zacksayjack1345 3 года назад
Camron is so underrated. He was the multi talent before Drake. Had the swag , underrated lyrics, acting, Cam was a trend setter. One of the most underrated rappers period.
@ItzzNinoOfficial
@ItzzNinoOfficial 2 года назад
Foreal?
@8mile12345
@8mile12345 2 года назад
@@ItzzNinoOfficial Absolutely…it’s not a like a braggadocios thing cuss I’m from Harlem..but if you know Harlem’s street history than you know it’s about Style & Fashion besides the money element women, drugs & street politics…Mase actually really got the jumpstart with the fashion movement & then Cam & Jimmy would follow up a few years later with The Diplomats & their aesthetic
@visionboard1783
@visionboard1783 2 года назад
If drake was from harlem
@ItzzNinoOfficial
@ItzzNinoOfficial 2 года назад
@@visionboard1783 hahah frfr
@hybrid1339
@hybrid1339 2 года назад
Drake ain't nothing like Cam...Cam kills majority of rappers off swag alone...and Drake don't got no swag like Cam..Cam was a trendsetter..I have yet to see Drake trendset anything...I get what you saying but Drake ain't nothing like those throwback rappers
@reddricmorales2300
@reddricmorales2300 3 года назад
Cam deleted Jay-Z verse because Jay-Z deleted Cam’s verse on Peedi Crakk’s song “One For Peedi Crakk”. The song originally had Cam and Juelz on it, it’s now on one of those early Dipset mixtapes because Cam kept a copy. He said it himself on Drink Champs that he simply did it because Jay did it to him.
@snipergang1224
@snipergang1224 3 года назад
Big facts. I hate when people put bad info out there. I’m hitting that unsubscribe button.
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 3 года назад
Yeah this dude is just clout chasing he don't really know what he talking about.
@wrightbrown1592
@wrightbrown1592 3 года назад
Y’all gotta lighten up he clearly said he WASNT BORN YET at least he’s a youngin that’s paying homage to great classic music y’all want clout for tryna play his shit
@llc8508
@llc8508 3 года назад
@@wrightbrown1592 facts
@fel305
@fel305 2 года назад
tbf this video came out before Cam's Drink Champs interview
@lavenderlunchbox
@lavenderlunchbox 3 года назад
Camron was hilarious back in the day.
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
Still is hahah his Instagram is hilarious
@ronaldjones4570
@ronaldjones4570 3 года назад
Cam still hilarious
@BurberryBrian
@BurberryBrian 3 года назад
Dude was funny af in paid in full
@jamesgibson3716
@jamesgibson3716 2 года назад
His diss against 50 cent "Curtis" was funny....
@Jac735
@Jac735 2 года назад
@@jamesgibson3716 real talk that was when 25-cent got roasted alot back in the day
@jonathanaragon5819
@jonathanaragon5819 3 года назад
I remember going nuts when the "I'm not a writer I'm a biter" shit came out. How they flipped Jay's voice lmao
@horatioh2020
@horatioh2020 2 года назад
Jay-Z might Pay Homage, but i can not honestly say i seen him biting anybody's style
@jonathanaragon5819
@jonathanaragon5819 2 года назад
@@horatioh2020 he bit biggie, pac, and snoop a lot in the 90s. Hard to pay homage when a bar is only a couple years old. I love Jay but he did. Not to mention my comment isn't about Jay z biting. It's about the Cam'ron diss track where they sample Jay's voice to say that
@abzda1700
@abzda1700 2 года назад
@@jonathanaragon5819 he wrote one of the biggest west coast anthems of all time go ask snoop about jay z pen
@jonathanaragon5819
@jonathanaragon5819 2 года назад
@@abzda1700 you aren't going to school me on jay z when the 1st album I bought at 11 was reasonable doubt. I love hov.. read. He did bite ppl. I'm not talking shit. It was fact. But once again my remark is on how the sample was flipped to make jay sound like he said that phrase when he didn't. Jay is the goat.
@abzda1700
@abzda1700 2 года назад
@@jonathanaragon5819 I just wish biggie was alive man even he would vouch for jay not being a biter your saying he bit snoop why don’t you go ask snoop wether jay bit his flow or not hating on someone then saying he’s the goat doesn’t mean anything to me and you saying jay bit pac just shows you don’t know shit about hov what song did he bit pac in
@Jinxx2U
@Jinxx2U 3 года назад
Nice Video bro. I always appreciate your work and how you research and put it together. I swear I remember this when I was in high school.. Rocafella was never the same after this alot of beefs came from this.. thanks again bro 👍😎
@MaMaNova369
@MaMaNova369 3 года назад
I like the time and effort you put in your videos. Dope views on hip hop. Keep up the great work King.
@darryldennis3487
@darryldennis3487 3 года назад
Keep doing your thing bro, you got vids on some of the best of that era..my era..very well put together 👌🏾
@OWXMUSIC
@OWXMUSIC 3 года назад
Jay clarified that UN stabbing on the 4:44 album, "You stabbed Un over some records, your excuse was 'He was talkin too reckless'"
@CJ-vh2hf
@CJ-vh2hf 2 года назад
You’re a real one! You’re on point with your videos on your evaluations !!👊🏽
@yendeezy
@yendeezy 3 года назад
Cam didn't even listen to the verse b4 deleting Jay-Z's lol
@tamirsharif314
@tamirsharif314 2 года назад
YenDeezy True indeed bro. That is why Cam said he deleted Jay's verse from the Oh Boy remix.
@phipbrown6700
@phipbrown6700 3 года назад
Love your movement brother!! U get in depth
@timbumper7629
@timbumper7629 2 года назад
I’m a hip hop lover too!.. but was born in 1982.. so I remember this era vividly. People slept on this beef at the time because everyone was throwing shots at Jay during the period between Blueprint 1 and 2. So it really came off as Cam just trying to get some attention
@pmbison73
@pmbison73 3 года назад
Really ENJOYED this commentary 👌👍💯💪
@RICO_SUAVE_86_
@RICO_SUAVE_86_ 3 года назад
Love this channel bro! All these topics you cover are 🔥
@callous01
@callous01 3 года назад
Your videos are really informative dude, great work!
@SectionATE617
@SectionATE617 3 года назад
Another great video young bro!
@TDBerry1
@TDBerry1 3 года назад
You missed a big chunk of this battle. Jay Z first responded to Cam on the remix to Rick Ross “Hustlin”. Cam then dropped a freestyle to Yung Joc “Going Down” going right at Jay.... This was all before Dig a Hole
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
They went at each other on ALOT of tracks so to name them all is kind of repetitive in my opinion and after the first couple of tracks, you get the point they don't like each other. I didn't even reference the nas as Jay interview where they're both going at Cam saying he's a snitch.
@delp4082
@delp4082 3 года назад
@@cloutcancun that was a nice lil rap beef but dig a hole..was the end when J said "nigga throw in rock sing on the side of ya coupe"
@MisterWessells
@MisterWessells Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OLlKFHuwoLg.html&ab_channel=UzAdirTyBitChJay - Z - Swagger jacker Pt2 ( Da response) Made By O.G. D..#ReachRichards #MisterWessells #Dot6Entertainment #MisterFantastic The real one is not among them
@SantinoCorleon1
@SantinoCorleon1 3 месяца назад
I’m from this era and knowing that you weren’t you do a good ass job at covering these stories you’re spot on
@dagreenboy5823
@dagreenboy5823 3 года назад
Nice content! Keep goin' my G! 💯💪🏾
@510island
@510island 3 года назад
Keep grinding with the videos and uploading consistently. You're starting to show up in the suggested feeds. I just found out about you that way a couple weeks ago
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
Thank you and I will! I got some dope stuff coming for you guys
@MisterWessells
@MisterWessells Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OLlKFHuwoLg.html&ab_channel=UzAdirTyBitChJay - Z - Swagger jacker Pt2 ( Da response) Made By O.G. D..#ReachRichards #MisterWessells #Dot6Entertainment #MisterFantastic The real one is not among them
@atlantageorgia3975
@atlantageorgia3975 Год назад
We made millions together- that is a golden nugget thank you cam
@AKGaming3
@AKGaming3 3 года назад
Love your videos. Keep at it bro 🙌🔥
@OM3N666
@OM3N666 Год назад
Talking bout that beef not mention Tru Life Max B and many diss record's freestyles is crazy
@ImperialCeaser
@ImperialCeaser 3 года назад
Thanks for the content
@cedricwade926
@cedricwade926 3 года назад
Jay never responded back to Cam calling him a camel in jon clettahs 💀
@floydjones1219
@floydjones1219 3 года назад
Jay z dig a hole
@UniVS427
@UniVS427 3 года назад
Go listen to jay z verse on Hustlin (Remix) by Rick Ross. He got at cam on there too
@290TheEmpireRecords
@290TheEmpireRecords 3 года назад
jay said the only time u went platinum u was wearin my chain🤣🤣🤣
@brickflipper5273
@brickflipper5273 3 года назад
Cause he knew Cam'ron is his biggest fan as well as Mase. Hov is loved in Harlem. Fax
@Ace_etereo
@Ace_etereo 3 года назад
He responded on already home with kid cudi.
@antwanrolllo
@antwanrolllo 3 года назад
Great video cuh! 👏🏾👏🏾
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
I appreciate the love!
@antwanrolllo
@antwanrolllo 3 года назад
@@cloutcancun 💯
@slimj3823
@slimj3823 2 года назад
Underrated for SURE!
@polyverse1
@polyverse1 6 месяцев назад
Good vid. Thanks!
@HighLifeWorkout
@HighLifeWorkout 3 года назад
Dope video!
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
Appreciate it brother!
@perseusmorales2315
@perseusmorales2315 3 года назад
Yo but didn't Jay killed dipset
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
@@perseusmorales2315 I would say 50 cent more so "killed" Dipset
@jameshamilton5947
@jameshamilton5947 3 года назад
The legendary Brandon Carter
@marvless8155
@marvless8155 3 года назад
Good video 🔥🔥
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
Thank you!
@charlesjohnson536
@charlesjohnson536 3 года назад
KILLA CALLED JAYZ A SWAGGER JACKER .. HE WASN'T LYIN ..
@wesyes7888
@wesyes7888 3 года назад
Who he swagger jacked
@pmcneil15
@pmcneil15 3 года назад
@@wesyes7888 He swagger jacked Harlem dudes. It's a well known New York rumor. Jay Z is from BK, those are the grimey cats that were in the streets and wore baggy clothes and timbs, but looked rugged(i.e. early Notorious BIG, MOP, ODB, etc). While HArlem, where Dame Dash and Biggs Burke(the silent 3rd owner of Roc A Fella Records) were from was where the fly dressing cats were from. Camron was also from Harlem, and their swagger is in the style, hence his pink clothing, fur coats, customized clothing and vehicles. You can see the style of dress that Jay Z had once he started Roc A Fella records, and if you look at early, younger Jay Z songs, he looks NOTHING like that smooth player that you see on Reasonable DOubt. Camron is making a reference to something most New Yorkers had been saying for years
@ArtisanWindchimes
@ArtisanWindchimes 3 года назад
@@pmcneil15 Biggie dressed fly too. Versace everything.
@pmcneil15
@pmcneil15 3 года назад
@@ArtisanWindchimes Biggie didn't start dressing fly until his singles sold. And who was his best friend, another Harlem dude named Sean "Puffy" Combs... When Biggie got in the game he wore nothing but Timbs, hoodies and baggy pants. And he wanted hard beats with his lyrics, and who gave him the disco samples and shiney suits? Puffy. Harlem has its footprint all over
@ArtisanWindchimes
@ArtisanWindchimes 3 года назад
@@pmcneil15 ok
@taffygore6285
@taffygore6285 3 года назад
Dope video : especially considering you are a youngin bro. I’ve always wondered how Jay stole all these things from Dame . I’m sure by the second thing that Jay stole from him , he would’ve woke up haha anyway . Great video . Love your content
@sw6xldn
@sw6xldn 3 года назад
Missed a vital part, during the confessions of fire era, jay and cam was in the studio jay said cam was good. Cam asked if he wanted to do a song jay replied saying I’m not here to lobby for spot on ya album. That was the beginning..
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
I linked the articles I did my research from and I've never heard of this story. Doesn't mean it's not true but hey I'm human. Glad I know now
@sw6xldn
@sw6xldn 3 года назад
Clout Cancún its all good, it was before rocafella. But jay z a bit awkward with other mcs if they competition. There was vid of Cam talking about it Gona try n link it for u was long time ago
@Quisee
@Quisee Год назад
@@cloutcancun yeah it's for sure true. Cam told this story before....
@MisterWessells
@MisterWessells Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OLlKFHuwoLg.html&ab_channel=UzAdirTyBitChJay - Z - Swagger jacker Pt2 ( Da response) Made By O.G. D..#ReachRichards #MisterWessells #Dot6Entertainment #MisterFantastic The real one is not among them
@geebee6010
@geebee6010 Год назад
That’s sorta how the Nas beef started. But Nas was snubbing Jay.
@dylanchadderton1
@dylanchadderton1 8 месяцев назад
I love the homage to Jay-Z in the intro to these videos. You could be anywhere in the world right now but you're here with me I appreciate that, from Izzo
@blackice3395
@blackice3395 3 года назад
Great video
@HUSTLER-AT-HEART
@HUSTLER-AT-HEART 3 года назад
Dope content
@JanoreThaDon
@JanoreThaDon 3 года назад
Jay z dig a hole killed it
@EscoRich36
@EscoRich36 3 года назад
🔥🔥🔥 documentary
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
Thank you brother!
@YoungShoLive
@YoungShoLive 3 года назад
Lmao I know I got on you for that SDE title. But to be fair there were songs that were leaked and the streets were calling it “sex drugs entertainment”. Keep it up Fam. GREAT videos 💪🏾
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
Thank you and no I totally deserved it bro I should've caught it but thanks for the love! I got some great stuff planned
@terryjohnson7413
@terryjohnson7413 3 года назад
Hb
@kmorr212
@kmorr212 3 года назад
Bruh u are really doing your thing. Keep it up bro. I really like when the young ones take a look back at hip hop history and why things happened the way that they did. One example of a story that I would like to be researched is the rise and fall of Max B. He is one of my favorites and hopefully he will rise again.
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
I have that on my list! I plan to make a video closer to when he is getting out!
@kmorr212
@kmorr212 3 года назад
@@cloutcancun mannnn. Glad to hear it. Can’t wait!
@MisterWessells
@MisterWessells Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OLlKFHuwoLg.html&ab_channel=UzAdirTyBitChJay - Z - Swagger jacker Pt2 ( Da response) Made By O.G. D..#ReachRichards #MisterWessells #Dot6Entertainment #MisterFantastic The real one is not among them
@ryanr20091
@ryanr20091 3 года назад
cam was always the fly nigga jay felt threatened by like the cool kid that makes the nerd feel awkward and out of place . Jay was always insecure and he even felt pressure by dmx too because x was bigger at the time . anybody that was taking shine away from him , he secretly plotted against them by being very passive aggressive with his sneaky chess moves . He was very smart but he also was very afraid and insecure . I believe nas alluded to that in one of his lyrics about him being afraid to smile because he felt ugly
@festusaniemeka3350
@festusaniemeka3350 3 года назад
Stop making shit up
@pa.encema2821
@pa.encema2821 3 года назад
@@festusaniemeka3350 Jay-Z is that ya?
@Uhhhh30
@Uhhhh30 2 года назад
I heard about this often. That jay is very insecure, because he's a nerd
@ryanr20091
@ryanr20091 2 года назад
@@Uhhhh30 yeah he was the kid in school that never got enough attention . lt's part of the reason why he became a rapper in the first place. It all makes sense once you put the pieces together he always wanted to be that dude . He could rap but there were better rappers like big nas tupac that he knew he couldn't fuck with . Think about why he always stood next to big because he wanted that same type of love being from brooklyn .
@hybrid1339
@hybrid1339 2 года назад
@@ryanr20091 he actually stood next to big because he developed a real friendship with big...you can't take that when big only shouted out his mom, kids and Jay-Z...people thought those rappers were better but Jay-Z literally showed he could stand next to them off skill alone...I'm not gonna go into whether if he was insecure and all that because I don't know him personally to know that and I'm not gonna speculate any of that but I will say he was just one of many rappers gunning for the crown...all of those rappers wanted to be top dog, not just Jay-Z...so competition was at all time high...he played chess...most of those rappers were not his homies so he didn't owe them any real respect on a personal level but he respected their pens and that's all that matters in hip hop...so I say all of that to say Jay-Z did it his way just like his song say... whether anybody feels it was right or wrong is a whole another story...
@LiveVisionManagementGroup
@LiveVisionManagementGroup 2 года назад
I like how you done this video
@ErickJohnson-rz5lg
@ErickJohnson-rz5lg 3 года назад
14:07 15 years of killa season 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@kingreese7422
@kingreese7422 3 года назад
Your background 🎶 🔥
@RNBsingersarehiphopheadstoo
@RNBsingersarehiphopheadstoo 3 года назад
Jay z been a hater. Dip set had the wave n jay was jealous cause he’s really a goofy
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
I hate that in some of my videos I come off as a Jay-Z hater but I know that everything Cam and Dipset dropped didn't go platinum but they definitely had a huge wave. One thing I forgot to put in the video is that though Cam and Jay may have had differences Jay never stopped Cam from dropping music when he was signed to the ROC. Cam needed 6 signatures and Jay was one of them.
@RNBsingersarehiphopheadstoo
@RNBsingersarehiphopheadstoo 3 года назад
@@cloutcancun respect. Jay was not a emotional man. So even in his jealousy, he knew a play when he saw it. So he wouldn’t stop the money but he would stop growth n progress.
@rustyjames5000
@rustyjames5000 3 года назад
Jay and Cam are both haters. This beef stems from Cam poking way before Rocafella. Cam was cool with Mase, Un, and wrote for Carli Baltimore. They all had history with Jay. Cam wanted the streets.
@laurencewilliams6676
@laurencewilliams6676 3 года назад
Whats the song at 14 00
@ErickJohnson-rz5lg
@ErickJohnson-rz5lg 3 года назад
11:37 Cam'ron hit that cntr alt delete on jay's verse
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
Just Blaze in a tweet said it was never deleted but....of course he would say that lmao
@ARTOFFICIAL66
@ARTOFFICIAL66 3 года назад
Jay has always taken the business man it's just rap response when it comes to his lyrics but if you watch his moves all the people he called family got hit in the pocket he's not a rapper or your friend he's a business man
@CarlosLopez-nk1vi
@CarlosLopez-nk1vi 3 года назад
What you don’t know is that JAY deleted CAMRON’S verse 1st off a PEEDIE CRACK song and that’s why CAMRON took JAY Z off the oh boy song no cap
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
Yup I cleared that up in my Roc-A-Fella doc
@MisterWessells
@MisterWessells Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OLlKFHuwoLg.html&ab_channel=UzAdirTyBitChJay - Z - Swagger jacker Pt2 ( Da response) Made By O.G. D..#ReachRichards #MisterWessells #Dot6Entertainment #MisterFantastic The real one is not among them
@mickjae6387
@mickjae6387 3 года назад
Well done
@melmcallister6293
@melmcallister6293 8 месяцев назад
Bro I love ya channel and the work u put in🤞🏽 but I gotta correct u bro. It’s (DAY BUGH’D) not (DAY BÜT’D) again BIG fan 😅🤞🏽💯
@RJNumber45
@RJNumber45 3 года назад
GREAT work, Fam..100٪
@brickflipper5273
@brickflipper5273 3 года назад
Everybody competed against Hov. He prevailed
@elplebeuchiha1996
@elplebeuchiha1996 3 года назад
Cuz he made sure to keep everyone else down. He was the Co-CEO. [+]
@brickflipper5273
@brickflipper5273 3 года назад
@@elplebeuchiha1996 He made sure to drop a classic every year . Body of work you can't deny.
@DiceB
@DiceB 3 года назад
@@elplebeuchiha1996 how is that look at there own mistake first ... 50 cent said to about G-nuit
@giffymoney3832
@giffymoney3832 3 года назад
Jay one of my favorite rappers,, but U never truly prevail if you stole shit from different people, which he has done: Young Chris whisper flow, Omillio Sparks hooks, multiple Biggie lines, whole beats from Cam and others, etc
@brickflipper5273
@brickflipper5273 3 года назад
@@giffymoney3832 Exactly what Brooklyn does take without asking . Thank you.
@baltazarbarros6740
@baltazarbarros6740 8 месяцев назад
What beat is that that starts at 13:38? I know it as a Max B/French Montana Coke Wave song but now im guessing its an older song since you used it for this video
@tajia4045
@tajia4045 3 года назад
Hip hop changed so much
@dmercy8477
@dmercy8477 Год назад
I don’t like Jay-Z or Cam’ron. Both are horrible men with petty egos but one thing I will not deny is that their beef is criminally underrated and overlooked for some reason. I am glad they squashed their beef. Cam even said he’s happy that it over. I slightly give Cam the win because he was not playing around especially in his beefs it’s usually funny and not that serious but Jay-Z and Nas, Man he was not playing around with both of them. It just shows the loyality Cam had for many of the former artists unlike Jay who has destroyed several careers. You Gotta Love It and Brooklyn High are one of the most overlooked diss tracks in my opinion people just trash them for some reason. Overall, I think it’s one of the best hip hop beefs of all time.
@uwasntthere8218
@uwasntthere8218 3 года назад
U wasn’t there but u know wtf u talking bout. Great research. Well done
@martinking4615
@martinking4615 2 года назад
Dame was delusional ....he thought he was Boss, Cam stayed strong, Jim working for Jay, juelz got no teeth. Jay literally won!
@kingjr1uzfe387
@kingjr1uzfe387 Год назад
Yea jay is successful af if that’s the case he defeated everyone. You missing the whole point
@rustyjames5000
@rustyjames5000 3 года назад
I think Jay was fronting like it wasn't a issue with signing Cam because it was a smart move for Dame as far as business. They both knew Jay wasn't feeling Cam. Cam got hotter then anything Roc did before, and Jay didn't have to be the one holding up the ship anymore. That was a threat, and too much power for Dame in Jay eyes. He was replacing him with someone that always secretly competed with him. They were tring to play him, he was making his private moves, and then pulled the plug. One thing I will say though. Dipset was so ready for that opportunity.
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
I don't think Dame was trying to play Jay. Dame has said that Jay had always been talking about retiring since his album reasonable doubt so he was always uncertain when Jay would retire which Jay did with the black album (we now know he came back). Dame brought Cam in because he needed to replace Jay if he did retire.
@rustyjames5000
@rustyjames5000 3 года назад
@@cloutcancun yeah but then you add Aaliyah, and the tension on that BET couch, to Dame allowing Cam and Jimmy to diss Jay. There's more to it.
@floydjones1219
@floydjones1219 3 года назад
Umm dipset as a whole was hotter then sigel but not cam alone sigel was still da hottest in rocafella
@rustyjames5000
@rustyjames5000 3 года назад
@@floydjones1219 so Cam didn't sell more than Sigel? The rest is opinion bro. Sigel and his team didn't Jumpstart Rocafella like Dipset did. At the time Jim didn't have any hits. Cam and Santana was on one.
@ryanr20091
@ryanr20091 3 года назад
jay felt mad insecure around cam
@XantoS771
@XantoS771 2 года назад
Instrumental around 7:00 ? Can't seem to find it in description
@demevfilms
@demevfilms 9 месяцев назад
Cam was supposed to signed by Notorious BIG and managed by Un Rivera is the deeper connection. Also, it would’ve been relevant to touch on R. Kelly’s “We Ride” which may have been the 1st track with Jay Z & Cam with a cpl other people including NORE. Jay smashed dat track. Overall, dope video my guy 💪🏽. Keep working! If this was an Uber, you’d get 5 ⭐️’s.
@alquanElGran
@alquanElGran 3 года назад
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Jay Z freestyle over Jim Jones Ballin but great video all together keep up the good work.
@FuzzyKnucklz
@FuzzyKnucklz 2 года назад
Does anyone know the name of the song that plays in he background at 16:04 ?
@nigelcotton8419
@nigelcotton8419 3 года назад
Iykyk. Can always been better then Cam. It go back to the UN AND BIGGIE DAYS. Cam was going be apart of junior mafia. Cam was the hip hop prodigy. He came up under all the greats of Harlem. Shit was written. He the goat.
@vinceguzman8478
@vinceguzman8478 2 года назад
Good video, but when people think of Cam'ron beef, they think of of his beef with Mase. But just my opinion. I think it depends on how old of how long they beem fans of Hip-hop
@rondon86
@rondon86 3 года назад
Cam’Ron feat HELL RELL “Must not know” to the left to the left. replied with that after “dig a hole” dropped. Check it out
@ErickJohnson-rz5lg
@ErickJohnson-rz5lg 3 года назад
Oh boy that jam 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@perseusmorales2315
@perseusmorales2315 3 года назад
Yea it was but Jay killed dipset
@crystaljeffrey9145
@crystaljeffrey9145 Год назад
You should do a video on “Humpy Hump”
@dmvconartists1855
@dmvconartists1855 3 года назад
11:33 jay deleted cam off peedi crakk's "1 for peedi" track first. Also Dutch and Cam both say the stabbing was over chuck bmore
@Josue-th2ho
@Josue-th2ho 3 года назад
5:22 what’s the instrumental/ song that yu hear in the background?
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
You oughta know by Juelz Santana!
@Josue-th2ho
@Josue-th2ho 3 года назад
@@cloutcancun shit yo thx fr I fuxk wit you’re vids too keep it up!
@shawnjohnson9281
@shawnjohnson9281 2 года назад
Yo bro I fucks with your content I was living in New York at that time with that beef’s first started a lot of those accusations.Keep it up player
@sunnypoltergeist1683
@sunnypoltergeist1683 3 месяца назад
Im waiting to hear u mention the song with camron and destiny child...🦅 had hov "main thing singing bout slinging crack"💯💯
@sunnypoltergeist1683
@sunnypoltergeist1683 3 месяца назад
Ok there it goes😂💯💯💯💯💯
@1TakeDrake
@1TakeDrake 3 года назад
Cam and Ma$e beef is more notable than cam and 50
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
I get why some people would say that and that could be true but I just think of 50 because he pretty much broke up dipset
@CarlosLopez-nk1vi
@CarlosLopez-nk1vi 3 года назад
Remember me bro I’m the 1 that told you to change you greeting cause it sounds like JAY Z into from the izzo song lol 😂 Now it still sounds close but u did change it 👍
@Praisestothemosthigh369
@Praisestothemosthigh369 2 года назад
I was still living in New York in this era cam had the kids minds and some of the streets I never checked for jay z but I checked for cam and the mixtapes he was different he was like the Soulja boy of this time goofy ass clothes earrings slang words man it was def something different
@action802
@action802 3 года назад
LMMFAO I was watching 106 live and hov just took over the show lol,with little promo on cam album,he knew what he was doing lol. Even cam was saying I didn’t know he coming here. But you can definitely see the tension between them,hov was like nah nigga,I’m taking over this lol Good times man.
@Tre_Ason_Number7
@Tre_Ason_Number7 3 года назад
Subbed
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
I appreciate you bro! That's love
@deangelobox4342
@deangelobox4342 3 года назад
Yeah you right bro Cam'ron said something like that in a interview facts
@bigwuns142
@bigwuns142 3 года назад
Dipset VS G unit video would be dope
@jimmycharlotin5935
@jimmycharlotin5935 3 года назад
as a jay-z fan I thought that jay-z although he didn't want to admitted it but he looked at cam'ron as competition bro all you got to do is listen to the song welcome to new york city man I also thought that if jay-z would of swallowed his pride and work with them rocafella records would of definitely surpass any label bro factd
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
I just think Jay was tired of splitting money 3 ways between him, Dame, and Biggs. Jay wanted that money all to himself. The thing about him and Cam yea I think he saw Cam as competition. I wouldn't say record sales-wise but as a rapper, he definitely knew the talent Cam had.
@290TheEmpireRecords
@290TheEmpireRecords 3 года назад
@@cloutcancun computers putin'
@MisterWessells
@MisterWessells Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OLlKFHuwoLg.html&ab_channel=UzAdirTyBitChJay - Z - Swagger jacker Pt2 ( Da response) Made By O.G. D..#ReachRichards #MisterWessells #Dot6Entertainment #MisterFantastic The real one is not among them
@NYNEDollaSign
@NYNEDollaSign 3 года назад
How you the king of New York wearin sandles with jeans on B?
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
Hahahhahaa I died when Cam said that
@ErickJohnson-rz5lg
@ErickJohnson-rz5lg 3 года назад
Open toed sandals
@marvinsepulveda7041
@marvinsepulveda7041 3 года назад
Chancletas, Open toe 🩴 lol
@DjTheDon614
@DjTheDon614 Год назад
Camron is just way harder than Jay Z music wise.
@marlowstanfield6815
@marlowstanfield6815 Год назад
In what world? Camron has an album as good as Reasonable Doubt? Computers is puuti, bobadi buttin lol. Harder than who? Gtfoh
@SectionATE617
@SectionATE617 3 года назад
Idk if you seen cam on drink champs but he explained why cam deleted Jay off the oh boy remix It's pretty funny tho!
@_KOANS
@_KOANS 3 года назад
Shoutout for you to knowing about true crimes nyc. Very cultured. Very young. Very knowledgeable. 😂🤝
@profitmix441
@profitmix441 3 года назад
Remember the line (she keeps calling me big but my name is Jay Z) On the song is that your chick? that was Jay Z talking about Charlie Baltimore
@sebastienc.2257
@sebastienc.2257 9 месяцев назад
Lol wrong that was a shot at Nas and talking about his BM
@stephenmiller7575
@stephenmiller7575 3 года назад
Tight vid cancun!! How often do you you drop??
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
I try to twice a week! Just depends on college. I might drop again today :)
@Trudon
@Trudon 3 года назад
@@cloutcancun no homo (cam voice)
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
@@Trudon What's the problem?
@Trudon
@Trudon 3 года назад
@@cloutcancun lol it's a camron joke
@bitcoingang9743
@bitcoingang9743 2 года назад
They all make the same beef video you a G for talking about camron instead of chiraq rappers
@Itsmykool
@Itsmykool 3 года назад
Its was over Charlie
@ricphilly4520
@ricphilly4520 3 года назад
16:06 Freeky Zeeky was trippin😂😂
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
That part always makes me die hahahah
@055blackman
@055blackman 3 года назад
Biggie vs Pac wasn't a battle of mc's. It was a beef that got personal from the beginning. Kool moe dee said best that battle's are about me and you/ Group vs Group. Once you mentioned other people besides me or the group to, that means you have nothing left in your lyrical arsenal. Moe vs LL Cool J, BDP vs Juice Crew, Jay Z vs Nas and more like that where battles of people who where masters on the on the mic's Battle and Beef is two different pairs of shoes my brother but still a great video 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@dipsetforever4611
@dipsetforever4611 3 года назад
How old are you my G?
@TommyTenderoni
@TommyTenderoni 2 года назад
Don't forget about Pokemon 🤣🤣🤣
@meciasrivera4769
@meciasrivera4769 3 года назад
If Cam had smash Beyoncé it really would be over for Shawn carter
@90sSOM
@90sSOM 3 года назад
Nice video the story of Murda Mase Up now!
@the_realducksauce
@the_realducksauce 3 года назад
🔥
@dieg
@dieg 2 года назад
What is song 17:00?
@dmvconartists1855
@dmvconartists1855 3 года назад
7:00 this when jay and Un had beef also dutch & spade & the major figgas had beef with jay because Jay offered them a bad deal. Dutch&spade were on Untertainment and on Cam's Sports drugs album. Beef was over Charlie Baltimore with jay and un.
@SoundBiteInc-
@SoundBiteInc- 3 года назад
Aye playboy you gotta social media?
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
I said it in the video but my Instagram is @theworldofdre
@dmercy8477
@dmercy8477 Год назад
You actually missed a lot information though. You forgot to mention Tru Life. He was the main person on Jay’s side got involved because he just signed to Rocafella and he heavily beefed with Cam over a altercation with Jones and Cam and even Nas got involved when he signed with def jam which was Jay was president at the time. Dipset dissed Nas before over his Hot 97 rant but when he squashed his beef with Jay-Z is when Dipset started to got after Nas again. And there was a famous video on RU-vid that was removed of both Jay and Nas dissing Cam and calling him a snitch. 50 Cent even mentioned the beef in his funeral music track before he broke up Dipset. This beef was already started before Dame signed Cam. They appeared on R. Kelly We Ride and Jay’s verse wasn’t originally from it and Jay wasn’t happy about it. Cam and Jay even had feelings for Charli Baltimore before Jay stabbed Un. Jay even some shots on his Blueprint 3 and 4:44 albums. I think you should of added these but of course the video would be too long but dope video though.
@lawrencebrooks3215
@lawrencebrooks3215 3 года назад
You missed alot of information bro
@kilahlipstick9687
@kilahlipstick9687 3 года назад
sandals didnt stop that man from getting a billion
@cloutcancun
@cloutcancun 3 года назад
I mean true but this was wayyyy before he became one
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