Jazz Musician Sucks at Metal (w/ Rob Scallon) 

I was about to say lmao.

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damn dude so true

Hahahahahahhaha

This comment deserves a Nobel prise.

Dude you have me in tears

Adam: "I DID A METAL!"

In before 12 year olds come with their “12 hOuRs aGo??”

You look great without the tim pool beanie dude. Just saying.

Muhamed Suicmez vibes

And that power stance tho

it was said at the beginning of recording ... And Justice For All

@@jedinxf7 the interviews about that album are hilarious. Lars had such a stick up his ass!

The only thing that was different about this case is that it was said by the bassist themself

🤣🤣 every time

Depressed bass player: "why they give the drums three days? they hate it, but still prefer doing drums over bass, oooooh I'M A MESS"

Both valid

School of Hardcore

They should make a movie out of a similar idea, it would be an istant classic

Rob invented a genre

CRT...Critical...Rage...Therapy

This is literally a jack black movie

HAHA

"Musicians should go to a yard sale and buy an old fucking drum set and get in their garage and just suck. And get their friends to come in and they'll suck, too. And then they'll fucking start playing and they'll have the best time they've ever had in their lives and then all of a sudden they'll become Nirvana. Because that's exactly what happened with Nirvana. Just a bunch of guys that had some shit old instruments and they got together and started playing some noisy-ass shit, and they became the biggest band in the world. That can happen again!" --Dave Grohl

@@joshhardin666 nah that’s more of ween.

It's proof that everyone does start bad, even the greats

It's us being taught Jazz

new? even Metallica themselves did this lol

Can someone please tell me which song Rob was perhaps referring to?

​@@cheskaarana6097 I think it should be sad but true

@@cheskaarana6097 maybe harvester of sorrow?

@@cheskaarana6097 Sad but true

bury your dead sounded like a bunch of high schoolers that learned to play their instruments the day they recorded their first record lmao, you're spot on sometimes that sound scratches an itch other stuff doesn't

i love you

Well, at least shuts up when bass/guitar are tuning lmao

@Qefna Ija That’s crazy bro, but I have no recollection of asking you.

and 50% of actual metal drummers

Of course he would be..THEIR FIRST TIMERS...1ST!

Rob Scallon Tap Dance Extravaganza

gangnam style

@@tito9107 coming to a venue near you this November!

Now I wanna see him do tap dance metal with tap shoes instead of kick

He's like a jolly leprechaun running away with that pot of gold, I love it.

chugga chugga is love, chugga chugga is life

Live, Laugh, Chugs McNuggets

@@aidanmahoney9865omg I need a live laugh chug sign in my house.

Hehe. Yup

and a blue 1960 fiat 500!

@Paul Mina Storm Hey, I'm not making fun of Adam here, the man COMMITTED. I'm making fun of progressive metal!

​@@ardnys35 lmao

Why is that PhD thing so true though

“unrelated PhD in natural sciences” made me laugh

Rob said find the groove and Adam totally went for the pocket 😂😂

I need him to seriously compose a doom metal song, mainly because I have no idea where to look for good doom metal and have total faith in his abilities

actually a Prog style would be like candyland for him

@@jamiel6005 Have you listened to candlemass?

Prog or jazz fusion (e.g. with a Holdsworth-like solo).

@@kirehj_sm In terms of composition, absolutely. But playing... uh...

gangnam style

Demented flamenco dancer

Lmaaaooo

A bit like the dancing in Debussy's scandalous sacre du printemps....

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MOMMY! YOU'RE THE! BEST FOR! MEEEEEEEEEEE!

Would be more funny if he sang " I love YOUR mom!" XD

Was honestly surprised at how good he sounded. Wasn’t too bad.

He sounded a bit like Oliver Tree and it threw me off lmao

Honestly sounded weirdly like JonTron to me

i need to see mom neely :(

100% positive reinforcement

Double awesome commentary

Guest vocals from Ms Neely too!

Rob reminds me of Jack Black here lmao.

Hence the song

Metallica

Dread Machine ripped.

@@benhemsworth8555 you sweet sweetie pie

Video title should be: Jazz Musician Sucks at Metal (Still better than your bullshit)

Was he one of your nameless ghouls? 👀

@@RockiesSweden Bass ghoul identity confirmed? 👀

@@aaaaaa2206 maybe not fully but in my Experience yes

@@aaaaaa2206 no, probably just that it's assumed they're the most versatile/prepared and therefore other musicians can feel intimidated by that.

*Modern prog metal

@@colemantrebor6574 veil of maya is more metal core and they have some weird time signatures and rhythm

@@sadface6635 Mathcore+metal= methcore?

Jesse, we need to make a band that combines a metal sound and complex time signatures.

​@@iantaakalla8180 Animals as leaders does alot of that

yea but that’s not a china..

@@datutturugang666 You’re not a china

can confirm i am neither china intended as the country nor chinese. for being precise im not even a china cymbal as well

Metal (👆🏼) bassist also, with those same feelings watching Adam do jazz, and I experienced the same joy!

I've always been jealous of his music skills. I'm a metal drummer. I feel so vindicated!

@Qefna Ija this comment was so relevant to the current conversation

@@judahgoddard7734 It’s a bot

Same!!!

don’t forget the obligatory arguing with the sound engineer!

truth so much

And the even cheaper album cover.

I had all but forgotten how difficult it was to balance.

Definitely not Adam’s first time on a kit, or guitar. He’s sucking on purpose and acting ignorant for the video.

@@mzxochitlnot everything is a big conspiracy bozoid

I keep expecting him to throw a chair at Adam.

Looked like gangnam style 🤣

Same!

He's the conductor.

Adam Neely loves his mom

@@asherplatts6253 so was it Rob that brought out the emotion? Or Adam's mom?

@@PeterMetzger Have you ever seen Adam interview his mom on his channel?

I felt this comment in my soul

this wasn't intentional but this reminded me of a certain anime with the same plot lol

@@jaykeii K-on? Or is there a newer one

@@kaitlyn__L yeah lol

So true hahaha

sad.. but true

@@bradleyduer Nice.

@@bradleyduer You win the interwebs.

It's like carcinization but with Metallica.

@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 everything returns to metallica

I was wondering that too.

Maybe because I don’t see him as the bassist, I see him as a good jazz musician who knows his craft and good at communicating ideas and theories.

I mean, can you REALLY look at a Kiesel JB5 without thinking of Adam?

lmfaooo

Thankfully he's willing to show the rough grind it takes to actually learn to play and instrument. Too many people don't wanna show the fails and want to make it look like they've been pro all along. Everyone starts somewhere and this is a good representation of it.

@@danielshaw2406 Given his overall musical skill already, I don't think it would take that long to get proficient enough, except for the double bass. That's a different animal altogether.

Got thrown in the deep end with the double bass haha

Fancy seeing you here mr. night man

i’m in tears😂

misha mansoor type beat

@@tfwnoyandere oh hey

Any Cynic solos with Simon playing

Hmm listen to Chris Polands solos for Megadeth, there you have a Jazz Guitarist in a metal band. Also a jazz drummer in the early days :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xHBDOfwYOgU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EVARJKf3Teg.html

Well, jazz metal _is_ a thing.

I love how universally reassuring it is to see an idol do poorly on something. It's nice to occasionally be shown that they are, in fact, human.

@@slizer452 Yeah especially since being the "übermench" of something is so widely marketed that we are not used to seeing these. Sometimes it is impossible for most and most of the time, it is impossible for all. E.g. Polygots who claim to speak 10+ languages.

Hehehe ego is one hell of a drug

The new title of the jazz/metal album: 737 to 7:38 I just took the likes from 737 to 738 but that sounds so badass jazz lol.

Good to have you back

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In all seriousness, this song from these two lovelies does have that feel to me like the elements you'd generally find within HeinbachSpace. It's a bit esoteric of a moniker. In short -- in a field I work in, we have a concept of an information space called a latent space. It's like a storage unit in higher dimensions, the higher dimensions let more concepts "live next to" each other without crowding each other out. Which makes it simpler to organize. You can move a thing to higher and higher dimensions, and it gets closer to basically having each dimension being a slider for each attribute, or you can be more space-efficient and pack it into lower dimensions, but your "volume slider" path for different attributes is quite wiggly and curvy because everything is squashed in. Okay now we can get to the mathematical concept of HeinbachSpace™️. That would be the area within a stylistic latent space that corresponds most to what you make, which is pretty unique. Interestingly, a synthesizer is a very constrained, disentangled subset of the full set of attributes of the infinite-dimensional universal stylistic latent space, with each knob adjusting one dimension. Getting more equipment lets you "map out" more possibilities in this space by "unlocking" certain dimensions. Some overlap, and some are new. And that is very cool. Since any song maps to a single point in the latent space, you can measure the distance from this containing area in the space from any particular point. The higher dimensional the space, the more meaningful (and clear) a straight line between any song and HeinbachSpace ™️ would be. In fact, if you played a song interpolating between any two point out of HeinbachSpace ™️ into HeinbachSpace ™️ for a given song, you would end up with something very similar to what your own unique rendition would be. That's one reason neural networks can be so uncannily good at times, because they're able to learn a good approximation to that latent space for whatever reason. Latent spaces are a fun tool for anything, though, as they allow for a lot of cool stuff. For example, letting anything (basically, in theory) to interpolate towards anything else. Neural networks are quite cool, and the recent work with unsupervised data stuff has allowed for excellent latent space interpolation stuff to happen. I'm not sure if it's entirely on brand, and I don't have an immediate recommendation, but I think you might enjoy having access to some combination of mapping of your current work to establish some particular subspace, PCA-type analysis to establish the primary dimensions, then discovery to find new dimensions similar to the areas you already know and love. This might help propel or guide a search towards a new instrument well as it plants a bug for a "particular sound" and motivates the hunt for the physical instrument around it, as opposed to the vice versa. And that can be very fun. If you're interested in the specifics of what that could look like, please do let me know and I can try to develop it out further. This is what my career is and has been (generally) -- complex NN solutions for odd problems, so I'm certainly happy to help somewhat with the discovery process at that frontier edge of musicality. If you somehow made it this far, thanks for reading! You can see how I clearly get passionate about this kind of thing, for whoever is reading this, hope you enjoyed and took something new away! Latent spaces are the future of a lot of things, and I think will change a lot of fields as NNs get much more well-established. (For more info -- "embeddings" will probably guide your self-search a bit better, this is more the general overarching conceptual framework behind how/why embeddings work.)

HAINBACH TF U DOIN HERE

Sure, but I think you need a bit more than an hour and a half for something like that.

i love how you can physically Adam's different comfort/experience levels throughout the video. he clearly knows the standard way to wear/hold a guitar, and he can definitely play, but he's less familiar with some of the more niche technical stuff and has to be coached on those things (like the strap length, attack strength, and stance). then he moves to drums and his limbs are stiff and he has to focus more on getting the timing and amount of force right. but then you see him on bass and it's the most fluid and natural thing for him. i don't know if there's really anything of technical value to be gained from this, it's just endlessly fascinating to me to see the human brain's learning process manifest itself physically like this.

This is me as a metal head stepping out of my comfort zone trying to learn the blues. It's a totally different skill set.

@@muttenmagroo If you want a tip for playing blues less is more try to partially outline cords while once you get used to that then you can move on to improvisation.

@@Bartman61911 Not sure he's looking for a tip

@M. Magroo as a blues player who has tried to jam with metal musicians- it was like we were talking two different languages

I saw it as less embarrassed and more happy he had another opportunity to learn

exactly! I really admire Adam and how much he knows about music. I've been an amateur for around 20 years, have no training in jazz and always thought less of myself, but after watching this, I realized that I actually know a lot of stuff

100%

I have never performed for others, I play bass for fun, but I do want to improve my skills until I get to have enough confidence to play for people, that would be so cool!!! I'm actually looking forward to being able to play for an audience.

this

I dont know how Metal Fits into sungazer

​@@aaaaa111aaaaa Didn't he say some of their stuff takes influence from djent?

Lol

:DDDDD

lol !!!

lmfao

My western European metropolis probably has less bands than your eastern European town

@@bacicinvatteneaca Damn :/ that sucks to hear. Well... if you're free in the summer, come visit Bulgaria. We have great beaches, trashy local bands and crime.

Yup

like when you find your college teacher on a hardcore show

Same here, I loved that we got to see a new side of him!

that's just for RU-vid, in real life he's a belter

I've noticed when people like videos on RU-vid the word "wholesome" crops up a lot. Seems a very popular word

@@smthnew861 true. The golden retriever of musician youtubers

Lol, I experience such things even nowadays - me (43) showing a riff from an old song to my mum (64) for the first time and she instantly recognising it :-)

Me: can we have Metallica? Mum: we have Metallica at home The Metallica we have at home:

Gold

@@LONGname46 which one is the metallica at Home though

😂

😂That coming from experience?

@@davisginn1298 who's to say? many such cases!

why would you call out The Devil Wears Prada like that

Hahah you'd never believe how many kids grow fond of different kinds of metal for the opposite reason. Metal has been going through a transition period, especially these past 15 years, closing in on the jazz and experimental/electronic ends of the spectra. Shredding isn't what it used to be. It's deliberate and musical. Metal in its most evolved form is without a doubt one of the most technically challenging genres. And most of the time it's for silly reasons such as teens wanting to look cool with a guitar.

Surprisingly specific scenario...

His little tap dance lmfao

Ikr. It was so awesome

Yup. It sounds like a voice he would just for a gag in a vid. Where he just screams a part of the script.

It was frightening in the best way possible

I know right? He must really love his mom ❤️🥹

They'll always tell you to cross that bridge when they get to it

LMFAO good one

Yeah, metal guitarists aren't gear obsessed at all /s

@@Kaleil Guitarist have to be gear obsessed. It’s the natural order of the world.

i used to tape my selector i didnt accidentally pop into my grandpa pickups 🤓

It really is. You don’t even have to be that good for it to give you the brain happy chemical.

There's something visceral about controlling such an aggressive and dangerous feeling sound. It's like shooting a gun. Or revving a really powerful engine.

@@aniquinstark4347 3 tube screamers in a row and a compressor is jediflipping without drugs

Yea bro, looked like "I'm in home" LOL

lol

Still pretty damn good for not being a drummer

Eh decent for literally his first or one of his first times imo lol

@Qefna Ija Kids, just say no to feminism

He's certainly a feckin good teacher hey

funny tho too that the breakdown callout sounded like early knocked loose LOL

Same

It's metal in the 21st century, its impossible to fail with the kick drum: just replace all the hits with samples and snap to the grid like everyone else does.

Well with Rob as a coach/producer everyone can make a killer album.

i believe so too, and i would fcking love to see that happen.

Looks like video was already uploaded lol

Yeah, I felt like Adam had to play ignorant for a lot of the video. He's talked about djent/periphery/animals as leaders, and I'm pretty sure we've seen him at least holding a guitar at some point. idk we

@@MNmetalhead That's just natural instinct to be, for lack of a better English word atm, polite. I am an artist and even do that whenever I talk to someone about a medium I know they know more about than me.

He's a pretty dam good producer also.

He is in many other videos too! He teaches a skateboarder how to play guitar and random people how to roller blade. He has a talent for that!

Music is supposed to be fun? That would explain alot

Should've started him with old Megadeth, it's practically jazz anyways

well its also the fact that he dosen't play guitar or drums

I mean, I'm sure he could learn metal convincingly on bass a lot quicker than he could learn anything up to pro standard on an intrument he doesnt play... but i see what ur getting at

@@jadedandbitter Lol, no, old Megadeth is as far from jazz as you can get. It's much more like blues on steroids.

@@Elintasokas Chris Poland's leads were very jazzy, to the point where if you played them without distortion by themselves, they'd sound like jazz solos

Some black metal tremolo stuff might take awhile to get if their technique isn’t quite right, I don’t think jazz often has such a focus on economy of motion and endurance

Fr once they get fast alt picking and eco picking down they are chilling lol

I identified as a "metalhead" from age 15 to approximately 45, when I realized how goofy it is for grown adults to think that way. Metal elitism is even more absurd and hilarious 😄

@@fclefjefff4041 exactly. Screw the rules.

hell yeah

in order to have fun, sure; but you will admit the less focus the music has, the more it really becomes just noise. Theres a lot between reharmonizing Necrophagist songs at double speed and throwing fish at pianos, but the closer you get to one of these poles, the less likely it is that anybody but yourself can relate to what you are trying to express

@@norbertonicenstein5333 but now you're putting all the importance on the outcome, yet you forget a very important part, that music is to be experienced and lived, and enjoyed in the moment. It's what we've always done, recorded music has been around so short in comparison to how long music itself has been around.