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Jeep JL Steering Box Factory Upgrade 

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The JL got the factory steering box upgrade today and I wanted to do a video with my impressions of it. If you are having excessive steering play in your steering wheel, go see your dealer and reference TSB 08-074-20.
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@caseyfamily2000
@caseyfamily2000 3 года назад
Update. Had a new steering box installed on 2019 JL sahara. New steering box was worse but it turned out to be a bad replacement box. Just got it back today and all the play is gone . Feels tight and responsive. Cant believe I drove an entire year with all the play. Jeep needs to be do a recall. .
@MMID303
@MMID303 4 года назад
I was the first at my dealer. I printed out the TSB and highlighted the key issues. I drive the JT. Took 2 days to get the parts in. They were a little reluctant about it at first, but after taking it for a test drive they agreed it needed the new parts. The didn't even mention my lift and tires. The steering is very much improved. Very pleased. Took about 3.5 hours to install.
@dennisr7452
@dennisr7452 3 года назад
I had the TSB done this week. It drives like a whole new Jeep, what a difference. Thanks for posting this video, it made me aware of the fix.
@adamguerrero7033
@adamguerrero7033 3 года назад
Was it covered under warranty?
@bobrynda3823
@bobrynda3823 8 месяцев назад
Glad I found this video. I have had the wobble problem since I bought my 2019 JL in May of 2019. When I took it in for the steering stabilizer recall they didn't seem to believe me I had the wobble problem. Starting in December 2021 it would wobble severely, every day. They replaced the stabilizer again. It didn't fix it, just wobbled different. They then replaced the track bar. The wobble didn't completely go away. They convinced me I was the problem, so I have been putting up with it for another two years. It is now getting worse and I need to do something about it. I just learned about the gearbox problem. Can't believe the dealer hid this from me.
@mikelazar7597
@mikelazar7597 3 года назад
I just had my 2020 JLU Rubicon fixed. I initially I thought that the wander was because of my M/S tires, my 2016 JKU did not wander. After watching this I found TSB 08-074-20 and the newer TSB 08-003-21. I took it to my local dealer and described the “wandering” and I did notice that it was worse when it was hot outside. They did not want me to provide the TSB numbers but they were aware that I knew about them. The fix was 100% covered by warranty. One day wait for parts, 1/2 day in the shop, new gear box, updated software, alignment. It drives much better now! Much tighter at low speed, no more steering wheel slop, I can keep it straight in the lane now.
@MACzerofourtwo
@MACzerofourtwo 3 года назад
Just saw this as I was waiting at my dealership for this gearbox to be replaced. Your review is spot on! I have a 2019 JLU Rubicon lifted on 38” Milestar Patagonia tires and I have always had a lot of play in the steering. I have also upgraded the trackbar, steering stabilizer and drag link, all helped a little, but the play always remained. Now the steering is tight and I would recommend getting this done. Definitely a big difference.
@pamsmith8964
@pamsmith8964 3 года назад
I was in for an oil chance this morning and mentioned the wandering. It’s crazy windy today and I felt like I was in the other lane before I could catch the steering this morning. I’ve written it off for a long time but I have no lift and it was just as bad with stock tires. They found the TSB and scheduled me for this week. I’ve loved everything else about my JL so hopefully this makes it even better.
@ob182
@ob182 3 года назад
Thanks so much. Just got mine back from the dealer with the new steering box gears installed. WOW whole new vehicle. So much easier to drive. Thank you so much for showing me this solution. It has been driving me nuts since I got my Jeep. Everyone needs to do this.
@Michael_ryan91
@Michael_ryan91 3 года назад
How long does the repair take?
@ob182
@ob182 3 года назад
About a half day and it took a week for them to get the parts in from FCA
@Michael_ryan91
@Michael_ryan91 3 года назад
@@ob182 that sounds great. Im taking mine in sat morning hope thats what they tell me lol. Iv been dealing with this for 2 years now. Tried everything no luck.
@larrytressler4893
@larrytressler4893 2 года назад
I bought a 2020 Wrangler JL about a month ago and noticed the loose steering. After viewing a lot of RU-vid videos, I expected the worst. I took it into my local dealer on Nov 1 2021, just to see what they would say. They told me about the Tech Bulletin for the steering box. They had a new one in stock, and they replaced it that day. I was also happy to see that it was under warranty.
@billb7033
@billb7033 4 года назад
Calling my local dealership this morning for my JT! Thanks!
@caseyfamily2000
@caseyfamily2000 4 года назад
Went to the dealer today. Video is correct. They are going to order and it will take a few weeks. Thanks for the info
@jaydulka649
@jaydulka649 3 года назад
Thank you very much for this video, very informative and motivating to schedule the service. My appointment is next week, hoping I notice the improvement. Service department seemed very aware of the problem and only asked if I had a lift performed, which I didn't, only added a Falcon 2.2 stabilizer as a band aid.
@charlesporcaro6095
@charlesporcaro6095 3 года назад
Thanks for all the information I just left the dealership and they are going to order the parts for my Jeep
@charlesporcaro6095
@charlesporcaro6095 3 года назад
I just got my Jeep back from the dealership and it drives great the steering wheel is very tight no play at all wheel thanks again for that information
@edwardbrogan7341
@edwardbrogan7341 3 года назад
Our JT had 5he same problem,very scary,our JK never had a problem. We brought our JT accessories to be added a week after buying her and the dealer did it on their own! A total world of difference!
@edwardbrogan7341
@edwardbrogan7341 3 года назад
JL not JT,my bad !
@richardmiller3808
@richardmiller3808 2 года назад
I’ve been experiencing some intermittent “death wobble” on my 21 Willys JLU when I’ve hit some minor bumps in the road. Definitely going to look into getting upgraded
@shiftintohigh5564
@shiftintohigh5564 3 года назад
Thank you for posting. I test drove 2 Wranglers and 2 Gladiators. I even went back and reset the tire pressures. Ended up getting a Grand Cherokee 4x4 with All Weather Trails pkg. Too much rack and pinion has crept into my life?? But I still want a Wrangler. Rented a Sahara in Denver 2.0L T. Liked it. Oh yeah, the Service Managers know about this. They will swap the box out. Glad to know yours worked! I may order a new Wrangler in Feb. I subbed!👍👍😎🇺🇸
@1stanich
@1stanich 3 года назад
I went back to the Jeep dealer yesterday after getting a diagnosis for the steering issue TSB two weeks ago for my Gladiator. I got the new steering gearbox! It does drive much better. It’s like driving a new truck! Ha ha ha
@lanefam5
@lanefam5 3 года назад
Just got my new steering box installed on my 2018 JL wrangler feels so much better!! 👍🏼
@adamguerrero7033
@adamguerrero7033 3 года назад
Was it covered under warranty?
@RandomRobReviews
@RandomRobReviews 4 года назад
Will try to get this done. I have added sector brace, and fox stabilizer. Guessing the steel box is even better.
@JeepGladiatorestAprilJTR
@JeepGladiatorestAprilJTR 3 года назад
Did you get it done? I have the Synergy sector brace as well. Didn’t know if they would do it with that installed or do I need to take it off before they change out the steering box. Please let me know. Thanks. I have a JT as well.
@cano1732
@cano1732 3 года назад
Good information. My 21 Gladiator came with the new part.
@DigitalColorado1
@DigitalColorado1 4 года назад
Thanks for the video. So far no problem, but will be keeping my eye on it.
@AKAGlenn
@AKAGlenn 3 года назад
My local dealer just ordered the new box. Looking forward to a safer ride on the highway. Anything over 50 is an adrenalin rush. I've also had the jeep veer randomly while coming to a stop on two occasions, saw the dealer after that. Otherwise its been a fun and useful vehicle!
@Rubi747HVY
@Rubi747HVY 3 года назад
Your right, I was told that due to the high demand for these, dealerships are limited to 1 per week. But hopefully I got mine coming tomorrow.
@alialazawi9436
@alialazawi9436 3 года назад
Thanks I will call my dealership to replace it, I hope 🤞🏻 will make different from the old ones
@chodson65
@chodson65 2 года назад
Just got the steering box changed (March 2022) on my 2020. No more wander and steering wheel feels tighter when turning. A definite plus for me.
@mkventures5259
@mkventures5259 Год назад
Replaced for free? I need to get this done too on my 2020
@chodson65
@chodson65 Год назад
@@mkventures5259 yes it was. I had to pay for an alignment.
@forevercontrarian3517
@forevercontrarian3517 3 года назад
Got my 2020 MOJAVE done yesterday ! Heck yes, a must do. Less than 2 hours at the dealership. 👋👍⛄️🎯🍀🇺🇸💉
@rjatx9
@rjatx9 4 года назад
Thanks so much for the info. And that TBS # .. so important. Wife just got a '20 two days ago & the jl was all over the place. Taking in the jl armed with the TBS first thing am. Thanks again brother.
@Ben-sv9op
@Ben-sv9op 3 года назад
I’ve purchased a 2021 jeep Wrangler Rubicon about three months ago Jeep has about 5000 miles on it boy let me tell you it sucks on the highway cannot stay in the lane thank you for your information I will be calling my local dealer today
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 3 года назад
The 2021 came with the new steering box, so you should get it in and have it looked at.
@Ben-sv9op
@Ben-sv9op 3 года назад
@@TrailTraveler ok thank you !!! I’m coming for my 2017 F350 .. with this jeep it just always feels like im musclein the steering wheel thank you
@santa24
@santa24 3 года назад
I'm gonna have it upgraded in a month! (waiting the parts), hope it'll fix the drifting
@JeepGladiatorestAprilJTR
@JeepGladiatorestAprilJTR 3 года назад
Thanks for the video! Great info. My JT has a lot of play with freeway wandering and I’m running the same set up as you with the 37” Pats.
@IndianMC-jf3cp
@IndianMC-jf3cp 2 года назад
I have a 2021 JLU rubicon. Have this same issue but sb only covers 18-20 models. Mine was built in 08/20
@chodson65
@chodson65 2 года назад
New TSB # 08 003 021 I was comparing parts required from TSB 08 003 021 new TSB number I guess. TSB (Jan 9, 2021) states Gear, steering 685 075 569 AA my invoice from the dealer is 685 075 569 AB. So I guess there is another updated TSB? So back in the shop Monday. Track bar had to be ordered and software will be applied. Kind of concerned that I had to push the issue.
@disabledarmyveteran
@disabledarmyveteran 3 года назад
I called my dealership and they were supposed to order me the steel steering box because my 2020 gladiator rubicon steering is going from side to side while driving. My warranty should cover the new steering box.
@goyo3572
@goyo3572 3 года назад
Had mine done approximately the same timeframe as you here in Tampa. My Gladiator Rubicon steers quite a bit better now. My only complaint was that it took 3 days for the dealer to complete the repair since according to the tech, the bolts didn't come with the steering box. But hey, it was free and I can comfortably steer with one hand even in heavy wind.
@mikekwiatkowski9332
@mikekwiatkowski9332 3 года назад
I’m also in Tampa and on a waiting list to get this done after a FIGHT with the dealer. Interested in which dealer you used...
@ati573
@ati573 4 года назад
Mine is on order now.
@ghernandez6457
@ghernandez6457 4 месяца назад
Unfortunately mine is a 2018 and I cancelled the dealership's warranty long time ago to save $5k. It doesn't look like a complicated install.
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 4 месяца назад
Unfortunately for us, we are out of warranty and our 3.6L engine just destroyed itself. A $5000 warranty would have been well worth the price right now.
@ghernandez6457
@ghernandez6457 4 месяца назад
@@TrailTraveler that is absolutely devastating. What year and miles?
@melvin5818
@melvin5818 4 года назад
I feel like all JL have this loose steering some more than others. That 2" play at the start of the video is kind of what i have i feel that i could live with it since i am a truck driver and loose steering is the norm. But really for how much i paid i should get the best steering i could get. I will wait until the smoke clears and get in line.
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 4 года назад
It certainly isn't "all JLs" as I have seen some that were really good, but it is a pretty significant problem for sure.
@mrjohnson8567
@mrjohnson8567 Год назад
Would it matter if you bought it used from a non Jeep dealership to get the upgrade
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler Год назад
It needs to be under the original factory warranty for there to be no cost. So as long as you have less than 36,000 miles on it, you shouldn’t have an issue.
@jamesmerkel9442
@jamesmerkel9442 3 года назад
I GOD want the Ram heavy pump steering unit on every new Jeep, go big grand fix, not Jeep unit.
@thegriffinsden3383
@thegriffinsden3383 2 года назад
great video thank you
@67wildwolf
@67wildwolf 4 года назад
newer JL's and JTs don't have the problem because FCA redesigned the stirring box. After getting lots of complaints. So the 2021s shouldn't have the problem...I hope.
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 4 года назад
Only the 2021 models have the new steering box
@anthonynespoli117
@anthonynespoli117 4 года назад
I have a 2020 JT 1500 miles and I have the problem. Parts on order. Be patient it takes a while to get parts in. I think Chrysler doing its hardest to keep from recalling
@Alpinenutclimbing
@Alpinenutclimbing 3 года назад
Just got a 2021 JL delivered to me today. I found this thread because the Willys is wandering all over the road with a ton of steering play. Will be calling the dealer tomorrow. Thanks for the info!!
@corpsman247
@corpsman247 3 года назад
Koa Hamamura you have the new box already on 2021.
@rtabcum
@rtabcum 3 года назад
@@Alpinenutclimbing Wondering what the dealer said? The 2021 supposed to have the black steel steering gear box instead of the Aluminum Silver gear box. Not sure if you were able to see you steering box?
@Dino860
@Dino860 3 года назад
Great video. What year is your JL? When was it manufactured? Thank you.
@ralphsoto1716
@ralphsoto1716 2 года назад
How much did the Box cost and how much to install it. By the way thanks for the video very informed
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 2 года назад
$0 it was covered under warranty
@luisan027
@luisan027 4 года назад
Do you know what is the part number from the new gearbox? I know if the last 2 digits are AC is the cheap one, I think the upgrade ends with AD or AE
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 4 года назад
This is what is on my work order: (1) 68507569AA Gear-Power Steering (4) 6513396AA Bolt (1) 6506950AA Screw-Hex Flange Head (2) 68088485AB Power Steering Fluid
@junwang4314
@junwang4314 4 года назад
AE and everything below are still the aluminum version, this is a new part number with last 2 digits in AA.
@luisan027
@luisan027 3 года назад
I went to my dealer and they are going to change the steering box, I have installed the synergy sector shaft brace, I just need to remove it before they do the upgrade, not sure how long is going to take to get the new part and it can take up to 2/3 months
@JeepGladiatorestAprilJTR
@JeepGladiatorestAprilJTR 3 года назад
@@luisan027 do you have to uninstall the entire sector shaft brace before they do the work?
@luisan027
@luisan027 3 года назад
@@JeepGladiatorestAprilJTR I did it, not sure if is necessary
@dalepechtl581
@dalepechtl581 4 года назад
hello had mine replaced steering is tighter stil have slop steering pulls hard to right have to drive with steering wheel turned about one inch from center to keep straight
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 4 года назад
You need to get your toe adjusted
@JeepGladiatorestAprilJTR
@JeepGladiatorestAprilJTR 3 года назад
Try adjusting your drag link. You tube has some videos on how to do it. Pretty easy.
@AROMC72
@AROMC72 2 года назад
Is this a recall repair?
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 2 года назад
No, it is a Technical Service Bulletin.
@jayhernandez6812
@jayhernandez6812 3 года назад
When you bring your jeep at dealer service to get your new steering gear box, jeep dealer give you any problem since your jeep is lifted also did you instal synergy track bar brace bracket?
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 3 года назад
They didn't give me any hassle at all, no I didn't have the Synergy bracket
@mikekosar6135
@mikekosar6135 3 месяца назад
I’m pissed… I have a 2021 JT… I have been experiencing gear box issues… called the dealer they can’t get to it until I’m done with my trip… just pissed that jeep I mean stallantis didn’t just install The steel box to begin with…!!!
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 3 месяца назад
The 2021 JT should have the steel box. I’m pretty sure it was only 2018-2020
@mikekosar6135
@mikekosar6135 3 месяца назад
@@TrailTraveler I haven’t looked yet Got home.. jumped into cutting grass But either way… I may need an upgraded one
@KRUX006
@KRUX006 3 года назад
Man I knew I wasn’t crazy, i have wandering on my 2019 JLUR and also have play on my steering. It’s a used Jeep with 17k miles so my dealership should cover it and when they do if my vehicle has to stay with them should they give me a loaner for the time being ?
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 3 года назад
Not all dealers supply loaners. The job only takes a few hours, so you shouldn't be down for long.
@AutomaticLimit
@AutomaticLimit 3 года назад
I'm assuming that this steering box will be in all Wranglers going forward?
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 3 года назад
Correct
@seanmilligan3261
@seanmilligan3261 3 года назад
Can you post or discuss your actual completed work order? I would like to present to my dealership the name of the part(s) and the part #(s). Thank you so much for the video.
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 3 года назад
(1) 68507569AA Gear-Power Steering, (4) 6513396AA Bolt, (1) 6506950AA Screw-Hex Flange Head, (2) 68088485AB Fluid-Power Steering
@seanmilligan3261
@seanmilligan3261 3 года назад
@@TrailTraveler EXCELLENT THANK YOU!
@nutronik9
@nutronik9 2 года назад
Is this something that affects 2021 gladiators?
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 2 года назад
The 2021s have the new stearing box already
@nutronik9
@nutronik9 2 года назад
@@TrailTraveler Thank you. Happy to know I don't have to deal with that. Love your channel
@nunovalentine5991
@nunovalentine5991 2 года назад
Took mine to a dealer in Atlanta. They refused to change box. Say Jeep does not support swap of boxes in 2020 wrangler. Changed a gear in the box. Worthless still terrible sway at speeds. This has to be a major safety issue. My daughter drives the vehicle and I am worried about her safety.
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 2 года назад
The absolutely should replace them in 2020 models! They are supposed to do it without question. Go to another dealer.
@nunovalentine5991
@nunovalentine5991 2 года назад
@@TrailTraveler They upgraded the steering box after some discussion. Was the software supposed to be flashed as part of the process?
@KerryGarrison
@KerryGarrison 2 года назад
@@nunovalentine5991 yes, it has to be flashed
@nunovalentine5991
@nunovalentine5991 2 года назад
@@KerryGarrison You are the best. Thank you !!!
@HuseinDSilmiP
@HuseinDSilmiP 2 года назад
In my case I never managed to get the dealer to change the gearbox, now I am changing it with my own money (around $400)
@litoornelas6409
@litoornelas6409 3 года назад
How’s the play on the highway going over 65mph?
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 3 года назад
Same as sitting still. Much improved
@its_andres2253
@its_andres2253 3 года назад
What kind of lift do you have? I have a Teraflex lift with 37’ toyo tires and the dealership just won’t do it for me, because of “my lift” is apparently causing the problem.
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 3 года назад
Mopar lift with some Metalcloak and Rough Country parts. Call Jeep Cares, the dealer cannot deny you because of the lift.
@its_andres2253
@its_andres2253 3 года назад
@@TrailTraveler I did contact Jeep cares and they are agreeing with the dealer. I hit so many dead ends, it's insane.
@FilmmakerCentral
@FilmmakerCentral 3 года назад
@@its_andres2253 What lift do you have? I have never heard of anyone being denied yet.
@its_andres2253
@its_andres2253 3 года назад
@@FilmmakerCentral I have a 4.5' Teraflex lift with Falcon shocks. It came with A new adj trackbar and adj front lower control arms.
@FilmmakerCentral
@FilmmakerCentral 3 года назад
@@its_andres2253 Go to a different dealer. There is no cause to deny that.
@everydayjeeper6583
@everydayjeeper6583 4 года назад
Did you install your lift or did the dealership install it?
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 4 года назад
I had a friend help me at his shop
@joecollins69
@joecollins69 3 года назад
What dealer in Colorado did you use?
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 3 года назад
Autonation Arapaho in Greenwood Village
@joecollins69
@joecollins69 3 года назад
@@TrailTraveler thanks man!
@nickartist1
@nickartist1 3 года назад
How much does it cost?
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 3 года назад
Free if you are under warranty
@nickartist1
@nickartist1 3 года назад
@@TrailTraveler thank you sir
@jamesmerkel9442
@jamesmerkel9442 3 года назад
fix any Jeep able under 50k milage free & any Jeep able over 100k for 1/2 price GOD call.
@stevemanieri5409
@stevemanieri5409 Год назад
Why hasn't Jeep fixed this steering problem. Your paying out the ass for a Jeep,the problem should be fixed from the factory. This is one of the issues that keeps me buying a Wrangler.
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler Год назад
they did fix it. they replaced the steering box on older ones and then new ones had the upgraded steering box. Not sure what you mean by "why hasn't Jeep fixed it" as they actually did.
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