Jeffrey Sachs on the Path to Peace in Ukraine 

Jeff and John Mearsheimer are liars alike. They have been serving Putin's oligarchs a lot. Yuriy Gorodnichenko, professor of economics | March 20, 2023 Dear Dr. Sachs, We are a group of economists, including many Ukrainians, who were appalled by your statements on the Russian war against Ukraine and were compelled to write this open letter to address some of the historical misrepresentations and logical fallacies in your line of argument. Following your repeated appearances on the talk shows of one of the chief Russian propagandists, Vladimir Solovyov (apart from calling to wipe Ukrainian cities off the face of the earth, he called for nuclear strikes against NATO countries), we have reviewed the op-eds on your personal website and noticed several recurring patterns. In what follows, we wish to point out these misrepresentations to you, alongside our brief response.

He's compromised, what Russians and Chinese would call & charge with in their country is the Foreign Agent Law.

It's not the majority of Americans that believe this. It is Biden and his administration, and the owners of the news media in the US that merely propagates the dishonesty and falsehoods that support the US oil and gas industries, and the military defense industries. Simply put money talks and controls both the US political system and the news media. So, almost no one learns the truth and when they do learn the truth, they are powerless.

Jeffrey Sachs is Putin's bitch. He isn't on mainstream media because he spouts Putin talking points. Anyone with 2 brain cells has figured out NATO expansion is Putin's excuse, and has nothing to do with reality. If NATO were a problem, Russia would have to invade Finland now that Finland is in NATO. Absurd. In addition, when nations join together for protection against the bully, the bully has no say in who joins. This defies logic.

From the 7 total replies to this post, we can only read 3. I wonder what the other 4 persons replied…

@@civildesobidience Let's get one thing straight--Jeffrey Sachs has been talking about finding peaceful settlement of this conflict--something any sane person should want. Clearly what you have presented has nothing to consider as far as peace is concerned, since by the 2nd paragraph, they are already talking about Yanukovich's SIN from an AMERICAN perspective, that being he was looking for neutrality. Oh I didn't know Ukraine has a border with the United States! WOW!! This narrative is weak and set up by the NEOCONS and WAR MONGERS in the collective west who have been playing their games with regime change. So I am afraid you better run along and keep your damn article, try pedaling it to someone else, son.

Yuriy Gorodnichenko, professor of economics | March 20, 2023 Dear Dr. Sachs, We are a group of economists, including many Ukrainians, who were appalled by your statements on the Russian war against Ukraine and were compelled to write this open letter to address some of the historical misrepresentations and logical fallacies in your line of argument. Following your repeated appearances on the talk shows of one of the chief Russian propagandists, Vladimir Solovyov (apart from calling to wipe Ukrainian cities off the face of the earth, he called for nuclear strikes against NATO countries), we have reviewed the op-eds on your personal website and noticed several recurring patterns. In what follows, we wish to point out these misrepresentations to you, alongside our brief response.

@@civildesobidience stop spamming

@@inzhener2007 The Truth hurts eh ? you will not silence the truth in the west, so stop your rubbish already please, nobody speaks more truth than Jeffry Sachs.

@@inzhener2007 you should go post your BS on mainstream media to get more likes.

I live in Germany and I despair at the levels of serfdom and russophobia displayed by media such as DW. I hope voices like Oskar Lafointaine's gain more and more traction with the public.

@@BluesManPeich Ich schlage einfach vor, im September wählen zu gehen! AFD liegt hinter CDU auf Rang 2, die Grünen sind eh abgewählt, die machen noch 2 Jahre dann würden die nie über die 5 Prozent kommen, Spd kann dann froh sein wenn sie die 5 Prozent knackt und FPD auch, aber wer würde noch die Grünen wählen nach Skandale über Skandale niemand. Die Wähler würden nie für dumm verkauft werden, weil sie nicht dumm sind. Bis dahin wird analena noch ein Kind bekommen und zurücktreten das wars genauso wie Fäser und Lambrecht vorher......solche peinliche leute sind verdammt wie Edathy und Oppermann die Pädophilen fraktion damals

Why German minister don't speak up? What happens if German don't buy Russian oil? What if Germany becomes too dependent on China market? Comment please

What’s so good about your democracy then? Why don’t you exercise your “rights” & do something to change things? Feeling helpless? Then stop supporting a system that doesn’t work & condemning others for not adopting this pathetic system

@@BluesManPeich I also think that russophobia does not help at all, and I wonder why the Gorbienthusiasm of the late 80s and early 90s has gone. The German reunification was only possible because the Soviets decided to let that happen and to remove 500.000 troops from East Germany in the following years.

Lol bless your heart

Mr Sachs is a very good man . My question is vote for who ? Not much difference between them.

But through sanctions it's definitely losing its dominance. Through the eye of a blind man.

what about the Russian.

Several of them have spoken up but everyone knows what happens to them. There is no freedom of speech in Russia - not of the sort there is in the US, of course - but to choose to remain silent when you can and should speak.... @@marygracedindin2957

@@marygracedindin2957 He's Canadian. Professor at U of Ottawa.

Trudeau needs to be removed from office for lies and deception. Either the Liberal Party can clip his wings or the Canadian people will!

Thanks for the insight

But now I see Canada is one of the most Russophobic nation and doing what US orders

Canada only exists because the USA allows it.

Да плевать профессору Саксу на всех вас, ибо своей никчемной болтовнёй он заоабатывает деньги. По что не смотрите на него как на мессию, а больше надейтесь на самих себя, да на благоразумие своего правительства.

Scott Ritter and col. Douglass McGregor are top notch too. Unfortunately Scott has been silenced on RU-vid. You can still find interviews with him on other channels. Enjoy and I agree with you, peace!

@@tolyamochin4066 because Jesus is the messiah. The one and only. Sachs is just a intelligent reasonable, just person. Thanks for your thoughts though! Peace

Agree. I would also recommend Nicolai Petro and Richard Sakwa.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE , How Jeffry here just cherry pick john Mearsheimer's theory without mentioning the name. what a champ. 😂😂😂

Professor Sachs lied here several time. He knows that by the way, just like Prof. Mearsheimer does. Russia demanded NATO not to expand at all, not just to Ukraine, justifying it by ... whatever. With Finland joining NATO, we see that Putin has been lying about the danger of NATO to Russia. He knew best that NATO was the least of any danger to Russia. That's why Putin moved all his battle-capable troops from the 1250km-long Finnish border and 12k soldiers from Kaliningrad (the Russian enclave in Central Europe surrounded by NATO countries for more than a decade) to Ukraine in 2022, where they all KIA, wounded or became POWs already. What is Finland now? It's 64x F-35s, fifth-gen air fighter bombers, which would need 45 min to get to Russia's St. Petersburg or 45 min to Murmansk, a Naval base with nuclear submarines. Is Russia going to invade Finland? Ukraine was not going to be admitted to NATO with France, Germany, Hungary, the Netherlands and Turkey completely opposing it. It was another lie and excuse for Putin to invade Ukraine. No one on Earth makes any danger to the thermonuclear superpower Russia... Except for China, the only country to attack Russia since 1941, in 1969. Not to be mentioned that it is not a NATO expansion; it is sovereign nations applying to join NATO. Counties can decide what to join)

@@kuyre2239 where's an example? Or did you think that just sounded good

This is Sachs opening his mouth and Putin's words coming out.

More like the Order of Lenin

With the latest round of peace proposals being pressed by multiple analysts, it’s worth remembering that all these supposed solutions for “lasting peace” are actually formulas for three things: • Dividing Ukraine • Preventing Ukraine from entering NATO • Giving Russia a chance to rebuild their military

@@christianevanherck6023 Ukraine is divided since it declared independence. Look at any elections in Ukraine before 2014. The war began when one part of Ukraine usurped power illegally with western help and money. When Ukraine declared independence in 1991, there was a promise about it's neutral status, equal rights for Russians and a status for Russian language. NATO is not an option. And Russia has enough military including nuclear weapons. It's too late to dream to weaken Russia militarily.

@@Abulb99 I live in Crimea. Again, use google and check any Ukrainian elections in 2012 or before. There was no ethnic conflict because radical nationalists and banderites were a minority before they seized power with violence and western support in 2014. Political parties from south-east Ukraine were in fact destroyed with violence. Of course, people protested. There was no any Russian invasion in 2014 There was a violent coup in Kiev. Crimea and Donbass refused to recognize the illegal government

@@indycoon You're wasting your time if you think you can mislead readers this way, by now everyone is familiar with all those typical Russian propaganda narratives, or you're just doing your job working at the trollfactory. Russia tried to get Yanukovich elected in 2004, and that fraud triggered the Orange Revolution. After 2004, Russia began a campaign to create separatist movements in Donbas and cranked up the propaganda targeted at those areas. After Russia got Yanukovich elected in 2010, Russia controlled Ukraine.

@@indycoon By definition, a coup is when members of a country’s political elite, most often military officers, seize power by force. That is not what happened in Kyiv in 2014. Yanukovych was not removed as the result of machinations of his country’s political or military elite. He provoked protests through his own actions (refusing to sign an EU association agreement he had promised for years and then violently cracking down on protesters), and then planned to flee the capital, apparently hoping he could rebuild his power base outside Kyiv until planned December 2014 elections. Instead, his allies abandoned him, and so he abandoned Ukraine.

Canada is the people living there...period...not Trudeau...citizens is canada. I recieve massive hate for speaking my opinions....Russian media os fully blocked to Canadians... my social media comments are ghosted deleted or I get banned. Canada is better than what?

I totally agree. Chrystia Freeland will never let the Canadian position on Ukraine budge.

Canada is just a vassal state. Both to US and Uk

Ukraine is a multiethnic democratic nation whose elites and governments mostly spoke and spoke the Russian language at work and at home. Far-right have never influenced Ukraine's policies, unlike in Russia, where Nazi-bolshevik (Nazbols) took over and ruled the country for at least two decades, waging at least five wars. Moreover, there were never any organised separatist movements in Ukraine (even in Crimea) other than those that were organised, supplied, commanded and controlled by Moscow. Ever. Russia carefully planned the hybrid war on Ukraine since 2005. Russia invaded Ukraine in Crimea around 5 a.m. on 20 Feb 2014, when the Russian Special operation forces (CCO) entered Simferopol, Sebastopol and the cities near major Ukrainian military bases, ceased the govt offices and arrested officials and officers loyal to Ukraine. That all had begun before President Yanukovych signed the agreement with the parliamentarian opposition at 4 p.m. on 21 Feb 2021. Why? Putin wanted to take over 10 eastern and southern oblasts of Ukraine, cutting Ukraine from the sea. But he failed to do so in 2014, so he began the war in the parts of the Donbas. April - August 2014 Russia mostly used proxies, mercenaries, and spetsnaz in the Donbas. But, when Putin realised that the Ukrainians were taking their cities back, he moved regular Rus armies in and shot the MH-17 down. Thus Russia forced Ukraine to stop and sign the Minks agreements. Then, using both Minks, Putin wanted to insert those two small regions (even now, 1/2 of the entire Donbas by territory) back into Ukraine. Why? Those two big cities and towns around them were too small for Putin to annex (although both officially requested him for that in May 2014). So instead, he wanted to legalise them in Ukrainian politics, but with all Russian mercenaries and two army corps stationed in Luhansk and Donetsk, but commanded and controlled by Moscow. Of course, he wanted to keep control over the Ukr / Rus border to himself. He thought that would allow him totally control Ukraine. When in 2019, he realised that his plan to control Ukraine via those two proxies was failing, he began planning the full-scale invasion, which he started on 24 Feb 2022 and wanted to complete by the end of March 2022 by replacing all the central and regional Ukrainian governments (regime change in Ukraine), by imprisoning and killing all Ukrainian patriots, subjugating Kyiv to Moscow. Why? After Ukraine, he would go and take over Moldova in one-two day. Then he would re-establish USSR2.0 of some sort or a resurrected Russian empire, which would include Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Russia. Perhaps, some northern parts of Kazakhstan. Why? Professor Sachs lied here several times. He knows that, by the way, just like Prof. Mearsheimer does. Russia demanded NATO not to expand at all, not just to Ukraine, justifying it by ... whatever. With Finland joining NATO, we see that Putin has been lying about the danger of NATO to Russia. He knew best that NATO was the least of any threat to Russia. That's why Putin moved all his battle-capable troops from the 1250km-long Finnish border and 12k soldiers from Kaliningrad (the Russian enclave in Central Europe surrounded by NATO countries for more than a decade) to Ukraine in 2022, where they all KIA, wounded or became POWs already. What is Finland now? It's 64x F-35s, fifth-gen air fighter bombers, which would need 45 minutes to get to Russia's St. Petersburg or 45 minutes to Murmansk, a Naval base with nuclear submarines. Is Russia going to invade Finland? Ukraine would not be admitted to NATO, with France, Germany, Hungary, the Netherlands and Turkey completely opposing it. So it was another lie and excuse for Putin to invade Ukraine. No one on Earth makes any danger to the thermonuclear superpower Russia... Except for China, the only country to attack Russia since 1941, in 1969. Not to be mentioned that it is not a NATO expansion; it is sovereign nations applying to join NATO. Counties can decide what to join)

@@genevaguerin I just saw her and Hilary Clinton doing a gig in the states, I didn't bother to watch as I knew it would be full of "the Russian playbook" line,repeated, stirred and repeated some more

Become a an outspoken chomsk-ite! That is my advice. The man opened my eyes years ago...

So why he didn’t say anything about his friendship with two greatest men like Epstein and Woody Allen😂

@@epriedane Are you stoned? Or are you just believing ANYTHING that you have been spoon fed?

CCP animal

Noam Chomsky, doesn't know a lot about Russia or Ukraine, he just think's US is at fault everywhere. Too superficial from my point of view and I do respect him a lot.

Sach's voice is Putin's voice.

How much CCP buy you

⁠@@saviorsoul9714 you are a limited person! if you think so.

@@Angel-ui1dw you are unlimited evil CCP animal creature

And Canada is following its blind lead.

Unfortunately!

I hope Americans overwhelmingly do not listen to Kremlin agents. The main thing is that the US government does not listen to them.

Mr monk bloque the truckers money. .

Unfortunate is putting it mildly.

Canada has huge & indoctrinated Ukrainian diaspore, and the High Priestess of Ukrainian Nationalists, a granddaughter of a Ukrainian Nazi collaborator, Chrystia Freeland, is Canada's Deputy Prime Minister and the Minister of Finance. A truly diabolical, wicked witch she is.

Because we have Ms. Freeland and the USA!

Mr.monk bloque the truckers money.

CCP animal

He keeps lying. Y. Gorodnichenko, professor of economics | March 20, 2023 Dear Dr. Sachs, We are a group of economists, including many Ukrainians, who were appalled by your statements on the Russian war against Ukraine and were compelled to write this open letter to address some of the historical misrepresentations and logical fallacies in your line of argument. Following your repeated appearances on the talk shows of one of the chief Russian propagandists, Vladimir Solovyov (apart from calling to wipe Ukrainian cities off the face of the earth, he called for nuclear strikes against NATO countries), we have reviewed the op-eds on your personal website and noticed several recurring patterns. In what follows, we wish to point out these misrepresentations to you, alongside our brief response.

He is one of Putin's mouthpieces who cites other Kremlin mouthpieces, not in any way convincing anyone.

I take it you will be enlisting in the Ukrainian Army soon.? @@christianevanherck6023

Brainwashed

Professor Sachs lied here. He has been lying this way all the way since ... long time. And he knows he is lying, just like Prof. Mearsheimer does. Russia demanded NATO not to expand at all, not just to Ukraine, justifying it by ... whatever. With Finland joining NATO, we see that Putin has been lying about the danger of NATO to Russia. He knew best that NATO was the least of any danger to Russia. That's why Putin moved all his battle-capable troops from the 1250km-long Finnish border and 12k soldiers from Kaliningrad (the Russian enclave in Central Europe surrounded by NATO countries for more than a decade) to Ukraine in 2022, where they all KIA, wounded or became POWs already. What is Finland now? It's 64x F-35s, fifth-gen air fighter bombers, which would need 45 min to get to Russia's St. Petersburg or 45 min to Murmansk, a Naval base with nuclear submarines. Is Russia going to invade Finland? Ukraine was not going to be admitted to NATO with France, Germany, Hungary, the Netherlands and Turkey completely opposing it. It was another lie and excuse for Putin to invade Ukraine. No one on Earth makes any danger to the thermonuclear superpower Russia... Except for China, the only country to attack Russia since 1941, in 1969. Not to be mentioned that it is not a NATO expansion; it is sovereign nations applying to join NATO. Counties can decide what to join)

Prof. Sachs will not be heard in the U.S. Government or insofar as he is heard the people who hear know they had better not talk. Prof. Sachs pled with the Biden people before 24 February 2022 and he was told they were not interested. He tried. Sophocles in his admonitory play, "Antigone": "Pray no more; the sky is deaf."

Geofry sacks proff voice of Reason,brave and brilliant chap.wonderful presentation.

Agree with your first two sentences & yes it was quite frustrating ref the subtitles!

​@@juanleahy2202o

Professors Sacks and Mearsheimer are liars, and they know that well. This Ivan just lying all the lies covered by "I am a Ukrainian". The massacre in Kyiv was organized by not only Yanukovich, by Putin's FSB, approved by Putin. There were never any separatism in Ukraine apart from what Moscow instigated, organized, facilitated, commanded and controlled.

@@civildesobidience Sorry, read the letter in German and forgot to give my reply in English. Most of the points the authors make, no one seriously doubts. But: As western media, many points that are worth talking about, they do not even mention. The tale of "heroic Euro- Maidan" for example just does not even touch reality. And saying, the US- administration had nothing to do with the developments is just a bad joke. The authors as we in the west, just deny the existence of pro- russian Ukrainians, especially in the eastern Oblasts and how they were treated by Kiew´s authorities between 2014 and 2022. The authors don`t have to "read tis and learn", as they are self- declared pro Ukrainian. But maybe you should.

It is not rational to regurgitate Putin talking points. It is evil

HE CANT EVEN TALK. HE IS JUST A PAID RUSSAIN PROPAGANDIST

CCP animal

Если Владимир Путин опустит большой палец вниз, то никакой титан Сакс не спасёт планету!

And here's your chance to assist an expansionist, facist, dictatorial, colonising Russia to your resume.

Mariupol 2014. 8 years before Russia invasion ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Pmp0AaItuwU.html

Thank you for reposting the statement by Colonel Smedley....cannot be overstated.

There's no way he could afford it.

Obviously,he should be awarded Noble prize .

The question should be whether he would accept a meaningless prize.

Maria Damen, you are really very smart. Thanks 🙏.

Personally I can’t understand a word Jeffery says with Putins pole buried so deep down his throat.

schilling for authoritarian regimes has never been more satisfying

@@earthtoned hey, if thats how you get down.

@@barneyleseven2854 Yuriy Gorodnichenko, professor of economics | March 20, 2023 Dear Dr. Sachs, We are a group of economists, including many Ukrainians, who were appalled by your statements on the Russian war against Ukraine and were compelled to write this open letter to address some of the historical misrepresentations and logical fallacies in your line of argument. Following your repeated appearances on the talk shows of one of the chief Russian propagandists, Vladimir Solovyov (apart from calling to wipe Ukrainian cities off the face of the earth, he called for nuclear strikes against NATO countries), we have reviewed the op-eds on your personal website and noticed several recurring patterns. In what follows, we wish to point out these misrepresentations to you, alongside our brief response.

@@earthtoned schilling ?

Sachs is a monster Putin apologist.

Yes, he has much experience with Russia, as he is the economist most responsible for the modern status of Russia with its kleptocratic government and all the Oligarchs running the country. That was the inevitable outcome of his "Shock Therapy" on a country that had essentially no middle class and no ideas about market economics. I'm sure he benefited greatly from all the Oligarchs he helped create, but I don't think the Russian people or Ukrainian people have benefited from Sach's existence.

​@@dancahill9585 русские, украинцы и прочие народы бывшего СССР не выиграли ничего. После развала СССР оказалось, что капитализм не так уж и прекрасен, как его описывали США, а социализм не так уж и плох и имеет множество преимуществ над капитализмом.

For the Kremlin, negotiations are purely for show. Throughout the war, Russian officials have given inconsistent statements about Moscow’s aims, about Ukrainian proposals, and about the prospects for a cease-fire, a summit meeting between Putin and Zelensky, or an ultimate peace deal. Several times, different high-level Russian officials have contradicted each other.

Thank you!

No. He is liar. And he know that, but it's too late for him to turn back. Prof Sachs lied here several times. He knows that, by the way, just like Prof. Mearsheimer does. Russia demanded NATO not to expand at all, not just to Ukraine, justifying it by ... whatever. With Finland joining NATO, we see that Putin has been lying about the danger of NATO to Russia. He knew best that NATO was the least of any threat to Russia. That's why Putin moved all his battle-capable troops from the 1250km-long Finnish border and 12k soldiers from Kaliningrad (the Russian enclave in Central Europe surrounded by NATO countries for more than a decade) to Ukraine in 2022, where they all KIA, wounded or became POWs already. What is Finland now? It's 64x F-35s, fifth-gen air fighter bombers, which would need 45 minutes to get to Russia's St. Petersburg or 45 minutes to Murmansk, a Naval base with nuclear submarines. Is Russia going to invade Finland? Ukraine would not be admitted to NATO, with France, Germany, Hungary, the Netherlands and Turkey completely opposing it. So it was another lie and excuse for Putin to invade Ukraine. No one on Earth makes any danger to the thermonuclear superpower Russia... Except for China, the only country to attack Russia since 1941, in 1969. Not to be mentioned that it is not a NATO expansion; it is sovereign nations applying to join NATO. Counties can decide what to join)

Likewise, and the response from Europe has been equally insane. I still have trouble trying to figure out just why they are prepared to wreck their country for the benefit of the US. Unless that is, that they were promised big things from the US, like parts of Russia.

@@hawkbartril3016 you are just a retransmission of Kremlin and Prigozhin lies 100%> Idi nakh

Ukraine is a shining beacon of democracy for the world. It deserves to continue to exist. And if Ukraine is victorious, it will show the world that authoritarians will lose when confronted with a freedom-loving people and global allies who refuse to stand aside when crimes against humanity are committed.

@@hawkbartril3016 хрена им лысого, а не часть моей страны

Few are exposed to men like Mr Sachs . Please spread the word .

Sachs gives the Ukrainians no agency. He takes the side of Putin. Can you imagine what a horror it is for Ukrainians to have any part of their land subjected to Russky Mir? Anyplace the Russians touch is destroyed. What is Sachs proposing to negotiate away? Does he know about Stalin deporting 200 000 Crimean Tatars in 1944? Does he know that wars of aggression are war crimes? The reason Sachs isn't on mainstream media is because he is a Putin puppet. He is in the tankie group with Mearsheimer, Chomsky, and Tucker Carlson.

He's good for the Kremlin and that's about it.

​@@christianevanherck6023First: good for US and Europe! Are you crao? This war is just kills people and we waste money. The war is lost for USA,!

in team Kennedy!! RFKjr24 💗🍀 Kennedy agrees with Jeffrey Sachs on this issue

Trotskyst

I could think of another discription.

​@@ianbardon8581 bringer of death ?

nonsense . every single western country and all its citizens have been saying throughout their disgusting brainwashed history about how great their system is because they CHOSE the people who represent them. you cannot say your system is great, and anyone who doesn't use your system is "Evil, brainwashed, etc" then turn around and say "it's not our fault". typical white culture- deny responsibility, refuse to acknowledge apologise and atone, heap self-praise, then insist it's all history and repeat ad infinitum. disgusting

True! And there's none of it on this trash

А зачем ему говорить правду об Минских соглашениях. Ведь на западе - эта запретная тема и можно запросто лишиться работы.

@@tolyamochin4066if you think that Sachs is avoiding inconvenient facts out of cowardice, then, frankly, you're not listening to him

Also @оля I don't have the timecode right now and I'm on mobile, but I'm pretty sure he _did_ mention the minsk agreements, and Merkel's later admission that they were used dishonestly as a stalling tactic

She was lying as usual. There was nothing hard for the blood spattered toad to condemn to death half a million kids. Or 5 million. The people in the west still can't get used to the notion that the neocons and the MIC, are deranged maniacs without a shred of humanity left in them.

This war is nothing whatsoever like Iraq. This is the stock answer from Lavrov whenever he's asked to justify war. Is there nothing other than what aboutism for you?

@@litlnote-wu6yv your lack of insight regrettably, does not surprise me. I didn't say it was 'like' Iraq.

Connie, my lack of insight treats all reference to Iraq with the same contempt whenever it's raised for reasons already given. Your dissembling does you no credit. You are referring to murderous American intent, that the motivation behind NATO and the US is to destroy Russia by hook or crook regardless of the human cost. What I see is a country seizing its moment in opposition to a vicious, colonialist neighbour. Occam's razor operates here. Ukraine's choice is this, fight and achieve independence or submit to a particularly unpleasant dictatorship which will see no option but to crackdown on what it so regretfully describes as a deluded Slavic rebelliousness, already a process in operation permitted by Russia's hegemonic exceptionalism. Your choice is whether you need to scratch or not to scratch your arse while posting facile irrelevancies.

@@litlnote-wu6yv you speak so freely about what I do or don't say while postulating on a subject matter of deep complexity that seems to confound even the most knowledgeable. And it would seem your observation is a possible contradiction in terms. Anyway, razor blades and exceptionalism apart you finish with an insult again, whilst glorying is in your own bombast and hubris. You appear to be part of the problem?

So what, if they didn´t listen to his advice....

​@@stefanh.5543 The problem is they did.

@@stefanh.5543 You're funny.

​​@@stefanh.5543 Well, it's hard to say. On one hand Sachs and the other 3 Harvard Boys (Russia 1991) were "shock therapists", their plan in my opinion was bad from the start. But as Sachs points out, not even the shock therapy plan was allowed to happen. The US refused to give any monetary aid to Russia to help it transition to capitalism, despite claiming that's what it wanted. So Russia fell into a decade of despair.

@@civildesobidience thanks for the link. I will.

@@civildesobidience I read the letter. And I remain convinced that Sachs is right. First...the expansion of NATO is the fundamental issue. If you can't see that, I don't know what to say. Ukraine was in a state of civil war. Since the fire at the Trades Union Hall. The West armed and trained Ukranians. Russia did the same in the East. It was a very divided country. Peace talks are inevitable. This war can't go on. There is a fascist element in Ukraine. It's not large, but it certainly exists. Russia is biding its time. The Finland Sweden will be part of the eventual settlement. Demilitarisation probably. Well see. Russia will demand very comprehensive scope of settlement. Ukrainian sovereignty. Not legally established under international law. Regardless. Real world, too bad. Neutrality and autonomous. Independence ok. But no NATO. Sorry. That's just the way it is. See the Monroe Doctrine. Russia will keep Ukraine. Just a reality. The way it is going to go. Sevastopol and the other two big bases. Hawaii...Pearl Harbor. No Belt and Road for Hawaii. Too bad. Real world. Russia commits war crimes, is a bad actor, is dishonest. So is the US. Too bad. Reality bites. The point about Prof Sachs is that he is a realist, not an ideologue. It's clear to me that Ukraine should have accepted Minsk II. This war could have been avoided. There are many aspects of the situation here that are imorral and wrong. But there is nothing more wrong and immoral than this war! It has destroyed Ukraine! Damaged the world. Endangers global security. Caused multiple crises. What will be left of Ukraine after this. For the rest of our lives it will be a disaster area. Was it worth it? The Ukranians fought with such valour, bravery and determination. They have suffered so much. They are a magnificent people. But they made the terrible mistake of following NATO down the path to destruction. It's an absolute tragedy.

More like the worlds 2nd most powerful military cannot capture Avdiivka in 9 years, wtf :D

@@FinUgShiet myth - making

As a canadian citizen I strongly support Ukrainian people in their struggle for liberty, independence and territorial integrity. I am proud of our federal government that is at the forefront supporting Ukrainian people. Moral bankrupt people like Sachs and co, supporting Russian barbaric invasion should be ashamed.

Feel the same frustration living in the US. Doubt if Canadian propaganda can beat our propaganda.

The consequences being if support for Ukraine stops?

My government (the danish) is just as pro-ukraine as yours, and I am satisfied by that, even proud of it. And I am glad that the british, german, french, finnish, swedish, norwegian dutch, spanish, czech, slovakian, italian, polish, bulgarian and other governments thinks the same way. All these governments consisting of well educated, well informed and democratic elected people - and their supporting officials - are WRONG according to mr. Sachs. It is pathetic. Maybe our differences is due to the fact that we live on different shores of the Atlantic? Who knows?

@@Bjoernandersen the truth is always spoken by a small minority. The majority will always believe a lie. “ Narrow is the path that leads to heaven and few will pass through it”.

The bible said. Time for wore. Time for bla bla bla bla. .

Не все готовы быть героями. Этот Ваня явно озабочен получением премий, званий и т.д. Смелые только те, кто уже в отставке.

К его части, про насилие на Майдане он спокойно говорит правду

Who provoked Russia into crossing borders?

Exactly. Russia has been planning this war for over a decade. There were lots of choices, but what is being dealt with is a fascist, warlike Russian government.

@@christianevanherck6023 пересечение какой границы, урод западный? Донбасс это исторические русские земли. Но я лучше тебя спрошу, почему армия нато пересекла границы в Ираке и Югославии?

@@christianevanherck6023 Why don’t you use your brain before asking obvious questions?

@@christianevanherck6023 Trust me, there is no point arguing. Putin said that Ukraine is not a nation but it is the Americans who made him invade. I guess Putin is so stupid that he is just an American puppet :-) If Americans make him do things I am impressed 😀