Jenna Ortega ATTACKED By Wednesday Producer HATES Her Saving The Show! 

Isn't Tim Burton the producer? I don't see DeKnight connected with Wednesday anywhere.

She speaks thruth to power.

"Jenna Ortega ATTACKED By Wednesday Producer HATES Her Saving The Show!" - imagine someone else wrote this and read it. What would you think of them?

Wednesday IS Jenna Ortega. No Jenna no Wednesday, Savvy?

@@corneliusantonius3108 Just like Brie Larson!

sadly the power and money are still in the industry runners, not until the actors themselves have enough money to be a producer.

Get her onto Star Wars and see lets see the fireworks commence

That's insane man lol like, some random passionate Gen Z actor goes into the industry just wanting to make great art for all generations of people & it succeeds heavily since she sticks to her gut feeling, and the idiotic brainsoft producers get angry at her because she's right and their egos are hurt. The truth is folks, creativity & passion for your work always out beats egotistical producers or writers that want everything to be about love triangles or cringe dialogue. All Henry Cavil wanted to do was make The Witcher the greatest TV show on Netflix with all his passion, they had everything, the biggest game title, an A list celebrity people loved, endless sources of money but they had to ruin it all by turning against him.

​@@neltins5308 it's sad really. Witcher has so much great source material. All they needed to do was adapt it and let Henry be Geralt.

I respect jenna for actually carrying for the role she plays

Ikr? It's ridiculous...

The self-righteous are always the worst. If someone tells you, "you should be more like me." They will lead you down a dark path.

No one believes Hollywood is genuine about empowering women. Hollywood is still run by predator rapist Harvey Weinstein types, and the casting couch is still a thing.

You do know Jenna is woke herself right?

Jenna probably agrees with a majority of what the Cultural Marxists do, almost definitely the denial of Objective Truth, believing that Personal Feelings determine reality. However, what situations like this clearly demonstrate is that the C.M.'s do not really care about 'The Message'. All those poor pawns are, are just useful idiots to sow discord in the culture. THAT is what they are really after.

Damn

cello...she practiced the cello...

That was a chello, quite different from a violin

​@@AllyFin if only the screenwriters paid this much attention to detail

@@christopherkenneally6015 this isn't really a detail

Netflix Witcher be exactly like that

I tried watching the first episode after I head how the actress did not go along with the stupid script but the first episode had her talking about patriarchy and taking on 3 bigger boys in a hand to hand fight. Does it get better/worse? I liked the Jenna Ortega's acting, stiff as it was, but I don't know if the plot is for me.

@@MannyNamiro it is a bit up and down,

​​@@MannyNamiroThat is a particular low point, I almost broke my eyes rolling them that hard at that but it definitely gets better

@@MannyNamiro The point of the show is that she isn't a Mary Sue. She is arrogant, makes a lot of mistakes, but eventually learns and grows as a person.

But Wednesday is more than just an personality. She was a character. There is nothing wrong with the actor. But the direction of the character is not Wednesday.

The writer sounds like a jealous and bitter teenage girl. Adding comments to Heigls movies like: "that i've just learned exist" and "who could forget the more recent" the nut job..... "(answer just about everyone.)" and "Jenna your'e in a mediocre spinoff of ´the addams family´ thats best known for......" A grown ass woman so full of rage and bitterness towards an actor for things she said that does not concern writer or her life at all. She is so pathetic that it is borderline concerning regarding her mental health. She is a failure herself so she loathes young successful people ( my guess is she most of all despise "succesful young girls" like Jenna) who is loved by her adience and fans. I have seen a lot trough the years, but this writer wins the prize for: Bitch of the year! Congrats Brooke Kato....nuff said, i'm out!!

@@Rayutomoto that not Ortegas fault, she did her best and sure there were some things left she wanted to change but couldn't, she changed the major things. Can you imagine how bad the original script was? Probably like she hulk or Velma.

I don't think she was casted,I think she was picked for the show

Same i can’t wait for season 2! 😊

"Strong and independent" only means being a sexual deviant and "cucking masculine men".

Hollywood wants strong females, until those strong females cause issues for them. It is once again “do as I say, but only if it works for me”.

​@@jamorrowyearby9991 They don't want uplift anyone they want obediente dogs barking their dogma.

They want Show Dogs that they can exploit both mentally and physically, then show you off to the audience that will blindly clap for and demand more from them!!!

If you looked up ‘Double Standards’ in the Dictionary, you’d see a picture of Hollywood.

NO, the Rock ruined Black Adam In this case, yes she was right.

@@neth77 That had nothing to do with his character being what it was in the comics. The whole shit story they had for him was not the comic adapted, in the comic he is evil not a anti hero. The whole thing with his son and shit they came up with themselves. So the rock didn't want the character to be true to what it was he wanted to make it a pseudo super hero.

We used to have actors like this but not anymore

Its good that actors say no to the stupid shit these writers write, and come up with their own version instead.

Absolutely true

Especially when the writers apparently don't care enough to even think about how the main character of the damn show would actually act in situations they created.

See, the problem there is that GOOD director part. Netflix doesn't have those.

Bro not anymore Kathy Kennedy literally refused to hire ppl based on their interest on Star Wars

@@theVictor-isVonDoom and yet Peter Jackson encouraged his LOTR cast to read the book. The success of those movies, Wednesday and the Witcher season 1 shows which approach is more successful ! I can't talk about Star Wars, I only saw the very first 3 and then lost interest.

A good director...someone not likely to be hired by Netflix or Disney

Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖

I bet Patrick Stewart was the same way, same with all the great startrek captains, well except discovery... well at least we know why it sucked now!

Fun fact, the "live long and prosper" hand sign is half of a hand gesture from a rabbinical blessing he saw as a child.

@@Nevir202 that is true, Nimoy admitted to looking up as a child while in prayer and seeing the rabbi use the gesture.

This explains why the new “Spock” was everything that they wanted him (Leonard) to be and everything that the audience didn’t want. They used the time travel as an excuse to make him that way. Leonard’s Spock was and always will be the most memorable.

Ooh she needs to be in his Warhammer 40K show As what, I don't know..

@@MariaIsabellaZNN Angron's favorite ship captain during the Horus Heresy. Though honestly I'd accept her as Greyfax.

A father and daughter action thriller film might be boss for them

@@MariaIsabellaZNN There are all sort of roles she could play, both existing characters like Saint Celestine and any bespoke new character who could be created just for her to play with no real difficulty if she would be interested - anything from a graceful noble woman playing the deadly game of Imperial politics through an Inquisitor, an Officio Assassinorum Operative, a power armoured Battle Sister, the commander of a Knight Engine, a Titan, or a void ship, neurally linked to her charge by a mind impulse unit. A soldier or officer of the Imperial Guard. The range of options is huge, and given how well regarded she is by the viewing public she could probably pretty much choose whichever one she wanted.

@@wilamblack8372 Rescuing her captured mother...... GINA Carrano! With Roseanne Barr as a comic relief fat peasant woman who pretends to be a witch to scam her daily gruel. Who then turns out to be a real witch!!

What a shame, we could've had another Velma or Rings of Power this year and Jenna Ortega messed it all up by making something worth watching =(

@@lanmandragoran8337 🤣🤣🤣 Curse you Jenna and your competence.

I wouldn't get too excited about season 2, though. Amything remotely successful attracts the disciples of 'the Message' like moths to a flame so expect them to redouble their efforts to fuck it up even harder.

@@The_Mighty_Fiction Yep that's a pattern. Ray of light though, Jenna is to be an executive producer for season two. Is someone listening to the fans ?? Is that possible ???

​@@The_Mighty_Fiction easily remedied... we fight fire with fire and play the "jenna being POC card" and shut them down with their own bullcrap

i can 100% guarantee shes never seen the black and white tv show. and shes going off one moves character. or maby one book version. but i watched the adams family, befor it was a cartoon, befor it was a movie. and shes wrong. Wednesday wears dresses.. not pants...

​@@you_tube6733i think u missed the point here ...... they never said she changed the wardrobe, she changed how the character was potraited

@@fitzroymarcano4565 ... how do you like dresses/ skirts over pants.. you might have missed the point too. they are dark. they still "love" dark things...

It's because if you "re-imagine" enough of it, then you can trademark and profit off of it yourself rather than have to provide income or recognition to someone else.

@@GodIsInTheTv In a nutshell, the original script made Wednesday a lot like Enid.

​@@pelidontewtf

@@pelidonte You can see shadows of it still, especially in the early episodes. It feels like Wednesday had a lot of moments where she was a different character. They seem to forget that Wednesday is a nightmare fetishist with a deadpan snark, and treat her like she's got the same standards as most people. This is a mistake. Wednesday also does a lot of actually Wednesday-like behaviors. I think that this makes it clear - assuming, again, everything is as presented - that the Wednesday-like behaviors were Ms. Ortega's alterations, while it is likely what she capitulated on were the most awkward, un-Addams Family moments.

The producers were lucky to get Jenna! She obviously knows the character better than the hack writers do and her changes helped to make this show one of Netflix's biggest hits to date. Several things are out of place like the love triangle; Wednesday smiling when she meets Fester in the woods; and in the final episode she's rescued from danger. Wednesday does not smile and portraying her as a damsel-in-distress who needs to be saved is totally ludicrous. People and monsters need to be saved from her. 😀

And oh boy a year later when the Writers Strike occurred, the writers flat out *mock* her. Pathetic!

Lol total cap first of all I can't understand if she really cared so much if it wasn't about the money she would definitely change lines her role in Scream 4 oh whatever screams acted in because both of them suck and I'm being honest please discard this whatever she knows what directors to show her teeth and while she know others would kill her career all this was another Netflix minor director that really don't have no power

@@tystomrte4442 why the hell do people think that just responding "cap" to someone's point means they rebutted it, it proves nothing and just comes off an ignorance and inability to actually prove your argument

Which is why I assume actors who don't despise the source material will get sidelined.

@@tystomrte4442 says the guy with promise midland as his pfp.

@@Linkthepichu LOL seriously you talking to me at least I have something interesting, you are the one with pokn picture for your pfp

@The Rue Morgue Excellent news, thank you 👍😆

eww no. shes already playd out

and her face... 😬

Like what Mark Hamill rightfully did to Rian Johnson during the entire Episode 8 Press Junket.

@@SpFlash1523 mark Hamill should have refused. He knows that they ruined the character. He had nothing to lose, he could retire if he wanted.

How many times have you been fired? It *is* unprofessional to speak this way, even if you're right. Holy shit lmfao

If I hired a builder to renovate my kitchen and he just decided to do it the complete opposite since he felt like that would be respecting the style of the house i'd tell him to f*ck right off. An Actor is similar to that, they need to respect what the writers have given her. The most important lesson I learned in acting class is that your number 1 role no matter what is to portray what the script says, you can offer suggestions but that's where the line ends. If she didn't like the script she shouldn't have signed it, simple as that. I hate this woke shite more than anyone nowdays but this kind of response is just silly. Also comparing it to the Henry Cavill situation is totally off considering he approached people behind the scenes and scheduled meetings with them to discuss his issues with the script and handled it professionally the entire way through.

It’s called accountability and people have no idea what that is anymore.

I thought Pugsley was way out of character, he's usually just as sadistic as his sister, watching him get bullied, stuffed in a locker and acting meek and insecure just seemed wrong.

I have to agree with you on that which is why whenever I criticize a show I criticize the writing now instead of the Character especially when there is a huge dip in quality

Good to see that SOME actors actually KNOW their character and are willing to stand up to writers..... That's awesome.

It's not just the writers, also the producers. I think NETFLIX should start getting rid of these writers and producers so the ones that stay know they have to try harder.

I'm just going to tell you how it is first of all didn't get rid of Jenny put someone else and her row

The same kind of thing has ruined the Witcher and kicked Henry out. All so wrong.

That's real. I even found some of the scenes were really janky with Wednesday's character, towards the end especially. I had no interest in the love triangle, the payoff kinda fell through with the cop's son, and the siren seemed to flip flop a lot and i found her to be incredibly inconsistent, which is kinda cool given the whole immature angle of children, but it tore away from her character too. (I've got a sweet spot for sea monsters) I actually thought i would hate this show, i didn't grow up with Addams family and the school angle really isn't my scene, but people kept pestering to watch it and in the end I really liked Wednesday. It's nice to know that her actor is a big part of that.

I got the same feeling except I gave up on that show, it's just too much different from what I expect of an Addams family story.

I found a big difference between the first Two episodes and the rest of the season. To me it started as a Hokey reboot and the Wednesday character was just too over the top. Then something changed in Episode three and I binge watched the rest of the show. And I'm NOT the Demo for this show!

​@@balljointfd3s I couldn't get through the second episode. It was so terrible. Kudos for sticking to it though.

Ngl. I was trying to watch it with fam but occasionally i felt this exact feeling. So i eventually dropped it. Ill support her as an actress in future endeavors. Just not this one.

100% agreed.

Love how bad writing equals woke these days.

​@@Pelican07.23 no but woke does equal bad writing

@@Pelican07.23 ??? No one here said that, and its more along the lones of woke shows tend to be bad and that there are a lot of shows that are woke these days, but i think if you ask anyone they would say that a bad show is not neccessarily woke. Just take the lion king remake, i think a lot of people would agree that its bad , but i dont think many would call it woke.

​@@Pelican07.23 with respect, not always. It is always bad when it is woke, but that's not necessarily the things that is always making it bad. If we wish to win this Cultural War we must be very careful about using the word "woke" flippantly. It can't be something we just put on something crappy. Sometimes it comes down to little talent and nothing more.

I really liked the first few episodes, but definately noticed a change towards the back half where Wednesday stopped being Wednesday. Never knew there was a director change, but if season 2 is the same director as the later episodes of season 1 I'm not going to get my hopes up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There are tons of contradictions and simply bad writing in the script but I am glad that Jenna actually fought for trying at least to keep some of it consistent

@@blubug768 I didn’t know there was a change either

@Dartzel Saves Best comment

Same!

Agreed

Yep. She was already really likable and this whole thing makes me think she's going to end up with a long career behind the camera, even when she retires from being in front of it. She actually wants to make something that represents what it's supposed to be, instead of being a skin hack writers can wear to produce their 'own stories.'

I know right?

She's super cute and apparently she's super nice and a lot of fun to be around.

Indie? Shes in fucking Scream movies ffs.

@@bmagada before she rose to fame

Nah that BH was ok with all the feminist BS that they inserted on the show

@@zenman6495 what feminist bs?

@@mariakhan7986 In every episode there is at least one out of place comment about taking down the patriarchy, or toxic masculinity, or mansplaining or any other feminist talking point

Yep, we need Cavill to play Gomez. Make it happen!

Same I hate how the show writers were trying to change her personality too much. Jenna Ortega and Henry Cavil for trying to be closer to the characters that we loved in the remakes👏

I hope she does become a successful director in the future.

Maybe, I guess. Let’s not get carried away.

Not gonna happen. Hollywoke will make sure that she won't get the chance to do so.

​@@pandaman1331 But with YOUR help, we can make that happen. With just a bit of your support, we can make directors respectable and help create better movies by proxy.

@@charlieflight6124 How so?

yeah, unprofessional would be doing blindly what you're told. professional is when you know what you're doing and only do it because you know it is good for the result.

It Is un professional for people that expect their employee to be mindless drones rather than actual people. And considering the story of Hollywood and young women... They really don't want them to talk. Another actress from a similarly recent Netflix product literally reported her disgust at working in the enviroment again After the sexual advances from a producer.

Too bad he didn't stick to his guns and made them rewrite it.

@@MilkoAritonoski at least he tried giving us the best he could with that filth

Mark should have done a Cavill ..

Luke Skywalker, throwing his own light saber over his shoulder into the abyss - me being done with the entire franchise! (Obviously not, apparently 🤷‍♂️)

Mark should have pulled out, but instead he sold out

Well said

Jenna Ortega is far from based

She is

Why did you put a space in front of your exclamation points?

they don't want that, their material, money they want it the way it is plus insert their political views.

She's 20... Not even 21 yet in a couple of months from now

If modern society has taught us anything, it's that the few who fail upward accelerate the process exponentially: incompetent people understand intuitively that they occupy a position they haven't earned and don't deserve, so their first instinct is to surround themselves with people even MORE incompetent than they are. This ensures that, when failure inevitably occurs, the blame will be dispersed amongst the herd, with no one bearing sole responsibility for it; it also throws up so much chaff that it's hard to single out one particular person to take the axe to, in order to fix the problem. That, ladies and gentlemen, is the Democrat Party in general, and the Biden Administration in particular. 🤷‍♂️

​@@brianmurphy6480 That's correct, this is all just chaff thrown up to try to confuse as the bombing runs get closer to hitting the target.

They wanted Velma, and got an actual Adams. Guess they picked the wrong 'puppet'

Ya his criticism made him sound like a cry baby

That's great to hear. DeKnight deserves the backlash he's getting, especially since it's not his show. Ortega just talked about putting her foot down when the script went out-of-character. She didn't name names, saying "so-and-so is a shitty writer". She just shared what happened on set, and spoke a bit self-deprecatingly by calling herself "almost unprofessional".

Who the fuck is Steven DeKnight?

@@RanMouri82 Exactly. She never badmouthed them. Idk why DeKnight translated that into attacking his peers publicly after reading her quote from an article... He was being the immature one

the whole love triangle ruined it. They should've listened to her.

Well it crystal clear, if jenna Ortega did put her foot down. The Wednesday show was going to be a CW Teen Drama that was there to subvert and deconstruct the character Wednesday. All they know how to write is woke valley girls from LA and NYC.

Tim Burton also loves her in the role, unsurprisingly

Jenna Ortega & Mike Judge

I can imagine Tim Burton wanting to write for her in the future in much the same way he did for Johnny Depp. Sometimes you find the perfect match and you don't want to waste that opportunity.

Same. I wasn't interested in it, but so many different people recommended it to me, that a month ago I finally watched it. And it was fun! And entertaining. And unexpected. Jenna is great in it. Can't wait for season 2!

Hollywood hated people who can think for themselves

Henry Cavil...say no more.

@@ianmerkin6488Henry Cavill didn’t come out on top like Jenna Ortega did. Sad.

We’ll get there, but the consumers of these products have to speak up to those who make it and the actors have to make their wish list projects known so those looking for actors know who are passionate about the genre/story

Did she learn the actual SWORD fighting, or are you talking about the thing she did in the show - modern fencing?

The actual Wednesday producers haven't said anything negative about Ortega that I've found. DeKnight has nothing to do with wednesday.

@@Halo_Legend Depends if she learned HEMA or Olympic fencing.

@@sleepless9957 You just paraphrased my point.

Christopher Lee also did the same thing on Lord of the Rings and unsurprisingly they thanked him for it because they wanted to make the best movie they could.

​@@joshs7276 the stab in the back scene, he gave his input as someone who has actually witnessed a stabbing in the back. Nothing they can say after that.😅🤐

That's the thing. Many times a scene was changed because of an actor. Maybe these directors/producers need to have a little humility. Sometimes the best scenes are ad lib.

Right, there were such things as table reads! I do not know if people still do this, but if they don't do it anymore its needs to be resurfaced.

Yes, but I think things have become more narcissistic. That doesn't mean that there are more people with actual NPD, but that narcissistic/sociopathic coping mechanisms are encouraged especially in the work field. It sucks.

Yeah if this was a closer-to-the-source Addams Family, Gomez would have been let go with not enough evidence and them trying to prove he DID do it as it would be a shame to fail at a murder or whatever... That is the whole fun theme about it tbh. How backwards they are.

@@sarcasm-83 My thoughts exactly. That would have been way better

I haven't seen the show so I can say I also expected a darker show than what it appears to be. I mean, they're suppose to be weird and totally opposite from the rest of us, making you always baffled by the way they think. Same happened with Witcher, I was hype, and the first ep was a great intro, but then it was just going downhill more and more and I don't think I even finished the first season. Unfortunately people like making movies/series/games based on whats trending on social media, rather than what could be good.

This. How Morticia acted and them being aghast at the thought of murder twisted my gut.

I had to read your post to be reminded of the "clearing Gomez's name" plot, even as I was struggling to remember just that one as one of the prime examples of ways that the Wednesday series seemed to forget what the Addams are all about. The plot itself was fine...but _not for the Addamses._ "My, aren't you a lady killer?" compliments somebody to Gomez. "Acquitted!" his his response. (Note: not "not guilty.") When the (presumed) stripper is baked alive in the cake, Gomez's reaction is one of genuine pity ("That poor girl...") followed by shaking it off with "C'est la vie!" and moving on with the bachelor party. Wednesday would never be offended that somebody would accuse her father of murder. She would be offended by the notion that her father would be _caught_ or otherwise would be so sloppy. She certainly wouldn't have issue with the possibility that he really _did_ do the crime! This was wildly incongruous with everything else, but I can definitely see why you couldn't fix that just with scene-by-scene changing Wednesday's take on things. Her motivation and the plot demands of this ill-conceived arc forced her to behave like a different character. IT would've required multiple episodes to be rewritten with underlying plot threads uprooted and rewoven to capture it correctly, I think.

She's actually quite political.

@@Stakex In my opinion, being political is not the same as being politicized brainwashed. but thanks for saying.

​@@MartinTravis-to1dl your opinion is nonsensical. You can't separate being political and being politicized.

@@Ozhull No, I said "Brainwashed politicized".

She's political but she's not doesn't have any entitlement about it.

They might add a trans sidekick who steals the focus of the show from her.

​@Major Gear And teaches Wednesday to "do better". 😂

Do you think Cavill got ejected from dc as they were worried he would fight them about the character like he did with witcher

@@ComradeCommissarYuri Most likely yes. I think they wanted to deviate from the "old" Superman too much which would not sit well with Cavill. For me, Cavill is 'the' Superman, just like Ryan is Deadpool. Just perfect cast, played really well. But if they want to infect some nonsense into it, thats no longer Superman either way, so its better that Cavill is not tainting his career with a badly written show. But we need to wait and see if it even gets into production and what they'll do with it.

Sad but Cavill and Ortega are the exceptions, not the rule, most actors don't have the talent or skills to write or develop their characters.

@@pzmoore007 Yes, there are only a handful of actors right the top of my head who take time and immerse themselves into the character. Its usually method actors and Shakespeare actors (theater actors) who have a tendency to do so. A pity, but even a great actor can only do so much with a bad script and crap writing :( That needs to change first because it feels its low effort, just churning in bad quality films one after the other with a (very) few exceptions.

Don’t forget about Keanu Reeves

Honestly, they should not have had Xavier and Tyler having a crush. They should have had Xavier trying to befreind her. Since they childhood best friends even though Wednesday doesn't remember him. Than have Tyler try to befreind and date her as well as try to befreind the rest of the outcasts. Enid will be initially suspicious because her like the other outcasts probably have a bad experience with normies but also Enid being empathetic senses something is off about Tyler but can't place it. Though this could also be framed as jealousy or possessiveness which is also in character for Enid. So Tyler ultimately befriends everyone just to betray them and Wednesday realize he is the Hyde after she kisses him. Than trys to torture him but everyone is reluctant cuase they were befreinded. Just to reveal Wednesday was right all along and even though Wednesday is a jerk sometimes she was right and ultimately doing the right things for the right reason. Which she was in the show she just didn't bother explaining "I'm trying to protect you guys from literally dying!" Which if she would have at least expressed this to Enid I think Enid would have understood but Wednesday did none of this. They literally could have kept everything the same but just not make Xavier a love interest what so ever. Also make Tyler befreind or try to befreind everyone before ultimately betraying them. Would have been more impactful

Same here! 😍

I suspect you wouldn't be the first.

@@FreakazoidRobots Nor the last

I SAW HER FIRST

Bro for real

Filipino shows are shit.

Yes quite respect ngl

True I have been a fan of american tv shows until they started pushing propaganda

Do it, its very fun.

It’s one of the best shows I’ve watched in a long time. You definitely should check it out!

Nah, far from it. The show is shit, her lines are still disgusting at times (due to writers' personalities). She only made it halfway bearable. Oh and the blonde girl was cuter ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

@@Halo_Legend I think she took garbage writing and made it work much better for the character. Also, if more actors like her and Cavil stood up for the source material, we would get better shows and movies.

The show is awesome! highly entertaining.

It is worth watching

The show is entertaining, though not exactly “The Addams Family.” Wednesday is something of a Mary Sue, IMO, as she is a literal expert in everything and just about everyone likes her despite her treatment of them. But very good performances.

@@wleight1 i had a different view. i understand the boys loving her because she is actually the type of girl i would fall for but there were also a lot of people in the show who disliked her and actively tried to sabotage her. i dont even think most people liked her, the whole plot is that a lot of people are trying to sabotage her and she has just a few allies