All Jennifer had to do was to get a job and save money to move out to get on with her life . What she did to her parnets was callous , evil and horrendous .It was in excusable. However her parnets were very strict and wanted her to achive and were pushing too hard .She should not have lied about going to university/ volunteering at the hospital
She looks like a broken and defeated adult woman. Its a tragic story. Parenting is such a huge responsibility, people need to think of the consequences of their actions.
The crux of this case, is that the parents had unrealistic expectations. They should have taken her to an educational psychologist, tested her personality type, interests and aptitude. Once those three things align, you can start discussing the types of jobs that would suit her best. You can't simply become a Dr. It's extremely unrealistic. You carry on doing these tests till they start applying for University. It works! You also need to have alot of discussions with them while they grow up, watch which subjects they excell in, learn to know their interests, likes and dislikes. It's completely about them and not you, the parent. Young kids and teenagers need to socialize with their peers ALOT. It's almost more important to be socially well adjusted in society, than having straight A's, really! You need to see a smile on your kids faces... poor girl. I honestly pitty her, murder was not the answer, but the parents were a contributing factor to her frustrations. Parents can drive their kids into depression, that is for sure. The big joke is, that it's not so important to be a Dr or lawyer etc, but to live up to your own potential, if it's being an artist, then that's it! It's misguided parenting, the parents needed counseling by a school teacher or principal. That is what they are there for, to advise parents. It's important to participate in school activities to see what you like or are good at. It lessens inhibitions. It was ",poor" parenting, they should have encouraged her to find her niche! Locking your kid up and keeping her out of society is just about the WORST thing you can do to a child. In this case, she was a young adult. She should have left home and made sence of her life somewhere else. If the foundations of her life was healthy, she would not have committed murder, possibly her situation created a mental deviation. I pitty her. If she went through such lengths to lie to her parents, she must have been very afraid of their disappointment or rejection. Yet, murder is not an answer AT ALL... it would make her misery only worse.
It's true she killed her parents and, when confronted by what she did she asked, "What happens to me?"; however, she is NOT a serial killer. This term has a definite definition and it is sad that people don't take the time to look up this definition before throwing out labels. Who else did she kill besides her parents? Any evidence of her going on a killing spree over a long period of time killing various people in a variety of places? Her parents, under the guise of 'wanting the best for Jennifer', decided to control her and live vicariously through her. Even if murder doesn't enter into the equation, this is not a normal relationship. Jennifer convinced herself that she had no other option than to do away with her handlers so she could be free.
i watched her story on another channel and when i saw this one labeled "serial killer" i was like who else did she kill besides her mom (because her dad didn't die).
@@princesabonita79 she didn’t do the actual killing, she left that to her boyfriend and his henchmen. She could have left, her parents gave her that option. Daniel had moved on to another relationship anyway.
I'm asian an my father was chinese comunist. was very hard on me ,I work at in my parent donut shop at 13 year old 7 day a week an still had to have straight a an b,not allow to have friends an was bullied at school .my day were 6 am to 1030pm at 12 year old ,I never once wanted to hurt my parent ,I love my mother more she was only one that raise us .he started gambling an my mom divorce him an I was basically set free ,but long story short i jion a gang did stupid thing an became a good person ,I try to built a relationship with my father but couldn't because he stole my money life saving of 300,k I worked since 13 year old to 36 ,it been 5 years since I talk to him ,but I hold no angry or grudge against my family I've love them no matter what I been through.,I'm 40 now an mom is 80 an I still work 7 day a week for my mom now we have 3 house in California property in india an peoperty in cambodia an later I will get everything so I rather just take care of them .
First of all, it’s not like this is even remotely the most harsh case of Tiger parenting, not by a long shot. Secondly, it’s not like it’s a frequent occurrence where someone murders the parents for being Tiger parents, it’s an anomaly. She’s the anomaly. And it’s not like she even murdered them for being Tiger parents, it was for the money. Remember, they gave her the CHOICE to live with her boyfriend and not move back in, she CHOSE to move back in with the AGREEMENT to live under stricter house rules in exchange for continued financial support.
exactly there are other tragic cases of children killing their parents where u feel bad for the parents but also for the killers (the children) but no such feeling for this case. only feel bad for the parents here.
15:22 FALSE! What is he talking about? There’s footage of Jennifer at the police station of her reenactment of how she was able to call 911/999 with her hands bound together. She was able to do it quite easily. She thought that if she was tied up or bound in a way, that no one could possibly think she had a hand in this. *There’s a lot of other channels that covered this case that show the footage I’m referring to
I had parents like this and I can tell you that it's like living in captivity and there is no escape because they are your parents and it's your culture. If a stranger treated their children the way some immigrant parents treat their own flesh and blood, and the child killed the stranger, it would be self-defense. But when it's the parents who literally keep their child in a prison that they cannot escape no matter how old the child is, and they do the unthinkable out of desperation believing it's the only way to break free from the suffocating never-ending oppression, well then she's labelled "evil" and gets put away for murder.
I disagree. She is simply a lying and greedy psychopath. My parents were like this. I got good grades, and got away from them by developing a career and separating from them. She wanted her inheritance. Period. Private piano lessons in Toronto run $50CDN and up an hour. She had skills to build a viable career. She chose murder instead.
You can't keep treating somebody like shit and expect to dictate how or if the target will react. She was heavily controlled even before she was caught lying. That's what drove her to the point of crime and having her parents moved off the board. Abuse will drive people fucking crazy.
Most of Asian parents are like that. If she didn’t like it, she should’ve left and lived elsewhere. She was an adult and lived in a free country. But when you choose to live at home, you should follow their rules.
Parents produced a murderer... My friends daughter drank herself to death at a very early age... Because she had a father like this girl had. Nothing pleased him... A lot of fkg dreadful psychological abuse was endured by Annie... Her father grew up in a strict, totalitarian, war torn regime.... He knew nothing else. What he sustained, he passed on to her... He victimized his family...but appeared to others so differently. ...an american tragedy...
May her soul be at peace. Sending all the love and wishing for the best. Stay strong. May she watch over the ones who really loved her for her and cared about her. 🥺❤️
I think this show gives her too much leniency. There are millions of "tiger parents" in this world and their children don't kill them. She was 24 yrs old, not some teenager. She was a good student and could have gotten a grant to study or gotten a job and moved out. This reminds me of Chandler Halderson who killed his parents when his Dad was about to go to the school and prove that Chandler was lying about graduating. Nobody cutting him any slack, nor should they.
@@peggypeggy4137 She failed high school. There was no opportunity to go to university without a high school diploma. Her report cards were forged. She should've moved out regardless
@@peggypeggy4137 I agree with you. I had very strict parents, I didn’t lie and cheat. And I didn’t even think of killing or harming them. I knew they loved me. I’m sure Jennifer’s parents loved her. Jennifer wasn’t 14 or even 16 or 18., she was an adult. Her parents told her she could either leave Daniel and stay with them or go out and lead her own life., it’s not a case like the poor Turpin children who were prisoners in their own home. I think she wanted the money. If her parents were that unkind to her -just leave. Daniel had moved onto another relationship anyway.
@@Soffity She had a lot of talent as well. She was an Olympic hopeful in ice skating before she injured herself. It shows how capable she was at pursuing something that was very difficult. She had so much potential that was tragically wasted. This was so sad for the entire family, I wonder how she feels today about what happened?🥲
15:28 - He's incorrect. She did successfully re-enacted the 911 phonecall. I'm not sure what tape he watched but that was the only thing that went in her favor during the interrogation. The rest was a disaster, she was a wreck. Her parents gave her the option to leave and be with Daniel, so why kill them? For money. That takes any sympathy I had for her away.
She is NOT a serial killer. A serial killer is defined as a person who murders three or more people in a period of over a month, with a “cooling down” time between murders. For a serial killer, the murders must be separate events, which are most often driven by a psychological thrill or pleasure.
Serial killers also usually have a "type" who they "hunt". In a sense, like it's not even personal if you happen to be unlucky enough to fit the "type". Pan, on the other hand, had specific people - her parents - who were her targets for personal reasons.
33:00 its so weird to see actors lip syncing with the audio, especially when they looked and acted so different in real life lol Edit: Also they make it seem like she was already arrested and was finally confessing, but actually she hadn't believed she was the prime suspect right up until the middle of that interview.
And was under a lot of pressure her whole life that doesn't mean that she should have turned to murder or something like a logical about shape how she reacted to this lifelong pressure he was her she felt she was Entitled an and probably felt trapped.
it is called " tiger parenting" these words define what was going on with Jennifer Pan. It very common in most Asian households. it is commonly deviated parents grown up lacking necessities like education and having to work at such a young age to help their own parents provide for the family. that being said when it comes to raising their own children it is common for parents to use their children to fulfilled their hopes and dreams through their child/s.
What's the point of showing lip synched actors recreate the interrogation when footage of the actual interrogation with her actual micro-expressions and actual body language is publicly available and widely circulated?
Her parents destroyed her. It could have been so different, but when the children becomes a part of the parents own selfish success story, even murder can evidentaly happen and happen out of sheer desperation. It's such a heartbreking tragedy and I feel sorry for this girl who had the misfortune to be raised by loveless parents that didn't see her. This sad story should teach us that our children are not our property, but real people in their own right. Murder can never be forgiven, but it can surely be explained.
I agree with you, it seems like people have no sympathy for her and i get it, I don't justify her but I understand where she was coming from. she deserved better.
She should have done what every 20 something does when they are tired of their parents house rules. Move the f*&k out! Nope, instead greed took hold and she chose murder.
If Jennifer really wanted to leave her parents, she could have just left. If my parents were emotionally abusive, controlling, and strict 24/7(if there are trying to control while I am an adult and no longer a teenager), I would leave and never come back. Jennifer chose the wrong thing instead of right thing, which makes me mad.
These programs are all the same. Here's the script, the recipe, so to speak. (feel free to use it) Victim: 1: They were the life and soul of the party. 2: They lit up the room. 3: Never meet a better person Killer: 1: Tortured animals. 2: peed the bed. 3: Abused as kid. 4: Often seen on occasion looking in windows after midnight knocking one out. BOOM, Two worlds collide. Cops stumbles and mumbles through investigations munching donuts and everytime they get a rise out the public They make the same textbook preset broad statement that usually includes. " People have the right to go where they want and if they choose not inform anybody that's not against the law " " give it a few days and they will be back, after all they are most likely with a friend somewhere" Then when bodies start piling up: " we don't see any evidence of a pattern " " Just be careful when your out in the dark " The Arrest: When they eventually stumble over the so obvious clues, which they only get when the screwball gets sloppy they get their man. Then it the good ole pat on the back time. they go on news and talk about what a jolly good job they've done. All the dedication and sleepless nights they have had. Then they proceed to slap their left thigh with their right hand and then the back patting continues with quotes like "I wanna give a shout out to the state police, sheriff's department" And even though you can tell they don't like them sticking their nose in and it's usually the only reason they get a conviction, you get the "And a special thanks to the F.B.I" It's always the same. Ps: I really wish the narrator's would just stop saying "Then they turn up dead" Which is absolutely absurd. After all its impossible to turn up dead. You can be found dead, but nobody turns up dead. If you don't want to be brutally murdered then there is a simple way to avoid it. Always be an a**hole at a party. They people are never on these shows. Anyway, have a good day my fellow hoomans.
She could have just left with her boyfriend and lived the way she wanted. She got green eye and wanted her parents to suffer by having them killed so she could get the money. I understand the parents may have had high expectations however she was given a choice to make things right and theyd support her or go with her boyfriend. I don't feel sorry for her.
I understand that she was being pushed to the edge by her parents. But if she wanted to be free of them she could have just moved out of her home and figured out how make a life for herself. Why did it really have to be murder? She could have just left. I want to feel sorry for her but I can't.
Yeah I agree with you there she should of just left even if she had no where to go living on the streets it’s still better than trying to kill your parents
Not that easy when in an abusive household. She was put on a lock down 24/7, was never allowed outside, and was always being watched for simple mistakes. It's not easy to just "leave"
@@Digest125 she was “locked down” only after she made the choice to move back in with them. She was given freedom of choice to live with her boyfriend, it’s just then she would have to get an actual job and work for her money, which she didn’t want to do.
@@Digest125 Actually yes it is just that easy if you have character and strength - certainly murder is not the bloody answer to such a problem. She was too lazy to go to summer school to get her grades up and actually pass - lying was easier for her than just about anything else that required effort and for her to actually put herself out there. She was lazy and got tired of waiting for an inheritance. Should try growing in up eastern European family where its pretty much the same, much is expected from all the sacrifice made on your behalf just to get out of fascist and/or war-torn countries without any hope of a future for your children.
The trouble with being given everything in order to succeed is that it’s all you know. If you have it easy growing up I mean spoilt you will hate your parents as they haven’t prepared you for the real world. Spare the rod ruin the child.
Ethics??? Wtf do ethics have to do with drawing a confession out of someone who has hired a murder or murdered someone themselves, to me that's crazy you do what u have to do to get them to confess. That bleeding heart therapists or whateverr he is needs to stfu.
@@hellonhoofs Maybe you won't, but there have been instances of people with low intellect, or who are uneducated, or are homeless and have dependency issues, or people who are chronic attention seekers or mentally ill confessing to crimes. This is heightened if the interrogators threaten the suspect with the prospect of the death penalty if they don't confess.
Serial killer? Not by a long shot! She could have beat that in court. People need to be smarter when they get are being questioned. The words " i need a lawyer" stops everything and increases your chances of beating it.
She's not a serial killer, but you haven't researched this case if you think she could've beaten this in court by asking for a lawyer. They had tons of evidence proving she was guilty (phone messages etc), plus her father saw her chilling with the killers. That's what got her locked up, she never once confessed. So no.. Jennifer would NOT have gotten away with it by getting a lawyer.. They can't make evidence vanish.
Wayyyy too many excusing her by people in this programme and people in the comments. She was 24… not a child! She could have moved out and gotten a job. Lots of options. Many of us come from horrifically abusive situations as children but don’t kill our families! Sickening! Also, the guy criticising the police interrogator is 🙄. He keeps saying how bad the technique is, but they got her so.. 🤷♀️
You dont know ASIAN MENTALITY especially parents, they are VERY controlling and rude with their children. As ASIAN, I EXCUSE HER, i can imagine her daily struggle with angers, humiliations, yellings... typicall behavior... and of course no support psychologically from relatives.. She felt trapped... I HAVE myself lived this situation.. Do not be fooled from asians, especially vietnameses
@@user-vj1kg6kt4u what a cop-out to excuse her behaviour by ‘Asian parent mentality’. I grew up with a narcissistic sociopath who abused me and my siblings in every way imaginable. Psychologically, physically, mentally, sexually… in ways I couldn’t even describe to you without likely getting banned from this platform…. And none of us killed anyone. So don’t even try me with that crap.
@@kiwigirljacks I feel very sorry for what you have been through, and still you fight with all your strengh to leave this painful past behind. It upsets me very much to hear how adults abuse defendless children! IT IS A CRIME to hurt them!!! May the Lord heal your wounds! DO NOT LOOK BEHIND, BURY THOSE BAD MEMORIES and peace will come into your soul!
@@user-vj1kg6kt4u I thank you for your kind words. 🙏 I have put in the years of work to heal and to grow. I now life a life where I am very content, as do my siblings despite our past (though one struggled with addiction for many years, he is now very successful). We often comment how amazing it is that we are all so ‘normal’ considering everything. So I feel grateful that we all did the work we needed to do to live good lives.
@@kiwigirljacks i am so happy to hear that you and your siblings have moved on and one has overcomed his/her drug adfiction! It is horrible that such evil exists in this world but NEVER look back, always forward and be all your siblings and you happy, united with love. Thank you for this opportunity to be aware of those situations (unfortunately!). I will keep you in my prayers, God bless you all, heal you, protect you and give you peace in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen! 🙏🙏💓💓
It was fascinating to watch westerners analyze asian family cultures because just when you think they get it right, a few words later they will get it wrong again. Human beings cannot remove their own perspective when we analyze fellow human beings that are different from us. We see things with our own colored glasses.
Every Real Good Parents wants the best for their children, every good loving parents are restricted to their children, the sons and daughters should love and respect the parents, in her case she was old enough to leave to her own life in her own terms, she made an Evil Demoniac Choice and she will pay for her Horrible crime in this life and after! It shouldn't happen Ever!!! Nowadays it is happening way too often 😔
"Stern parenting "? Call it what it is: child abuse. They act like this girl was a master manipulater, but she was surviving a very terrifying situation in the only way she could figure out. The human brain doesn't fully develop until 25.
The quality of the audio and the way speakers talk make it hard to follow ( not talking about the accent). All people having bad parents don't turn murder. She had the age to work and go build her own life so i have no empathy for her.
she should have just ran away, However she wanted their money. I get patents being so controlling however run away or actually work hard get to uni get away!
This criminologist annoys me so much.... it doesn't matter what interrogators do, he will still have a problem with it. Wait for the criminal to be ready to confess??? are you kidding me!!!.... when this interview was conducted, they already had enough evidence that she was involved. Geez!! They were able to convict everyone else involved and obtain justice because of this interview
My sentiments exactly he is very nit picky but does not give any specific technique and hopes on the good graces of a criminal to own up and confess 😆🤷♀
I just don't think it should be legal for a detective, or investigator to lie, or be deceitful in questioning a suspect. Was the girl read her rights? Was the girl told that at any time she could stop the interview and talk to a lawyer. But while it was wrong to try to murder her parents, I think her parents pushed her into a corner and the girl thought that was her only way out.
This show is rubbish, left out a whole lot of details, painted her as a "victim" of her parents "abuse" when in actual fact if you care to do your research properly, you'll find that her motivation for getting rid of her parents was largely due to $$$. Her parents were strict and wanted desperately for her to succeed & be somebody but they weren't abusive! They came to America with nothing & they worked really hard to provide for their kids, come on, she had piano lessons and ice skating lessons at the age of 3 or 4 onwards, they slaved away to give her the best opportunity! They financially supported her eventhough she was an adult! They provided for her thinking she was going to college when in actual fact she was living with her boyfriend for 2 years! Her parents just believed the lies that she fed them without even checking into it, when they found out, they were furious but they still gave her options. Option 1 - They 'd still support her but she had to go back to school, stop seeing her bf because after her parents met her bf, they didn't like him! After all what parents would want their daughter dating a drug dealer! Option 2 - they'll cut ties with her & she could continue to do whatever she wanted! At this stage, she could have just walk away from her parents, get a job support herself if she simply just wanted to be free of her parents expectations/demands but no she chose to stay home, continue to lie to her parents & ploted with her drug dealer bf to murder her parents so she could walk away with the inheritance! Her parents are the real victims here, she made her choice! Her mum last moments was spent begging the gunmen to spare her daughter! Yet people are so harsh to judge her parents!
thought the show was about understanding serial killers and detecting them. Instead it looks like they spend more time criticizing police tactics. Criticizing America police and hinting that British police tactics are better. Yet every british police interrogations consist of hours long recordings of criminals saying "no comment " to every question asked of them. Then British police have to guess why they committed the crimes instead actually getting confessions.
She didn’t even do actual killing. Bet she wishes she had just left home at 18 like most of us do. It’s not as though she was beaten or starved or treated like the Turpin children, she was an adult ,(24 yrs old.) I’ve only ever heard Jennifer’s side of this story not her dads and of course not her mothers. There are always 2 sides to a story. I’d like to hear the other side.
Her parents created the circumstances of their own destruction by forcing their mid 20s daughter to be what they want nothing about her or whats she's wants or is capable of she could have been a piano teacher but no they forced her to become something she couldn't be and she's trapped she has no out like the guy said she doesn't have the mental capacity to say no I can't do what you want of me im capable of teaching piano or something else I can do but not what you want me to be sorry folks but I'm not able to be all you want only what I know myself that I can be ,the parents were mentally very mentally abusive to her they backed her in a corner she didn't have the mental know how to escape its as much on them as her more so on them from what I can tell she needed someone to step in and protect her from over achieving and over bearing and expecting parents but truth be told she could have chose another path other then killing them but it seems she didn't think she had another out other then killing them. Parents like them Asian parents can be extremely mentally taxing on a young person she was 24 but mentally stunted by them like he Said to the age of a 15 year old it's sad .
